AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Review - Leo can't believe it!

[@KitGuruTech]

Update: the 7950X3D will launch at retail tomorrow, 28th February. It will be sold for £749.99 at OCUK for UK buyers

[@treyquattro]

Talking of launches, I've just seen an "overview" of an MSI Tomahawk X670E board from an Australia-based channel on KZbin. I can't find this anywhere (else) except a "leak" on Twitter from someone with a few hundred followers. Is it a thing? Even a rumor of a thing?

[@KitGuruTech]

@@treyquattro It's listed on MSI's website, so i'd say it is certainly a thing www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X670E-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/Overview

[@arwlyx]

So right now on ocuk it's £150 more expensive and barely any faster than the 13900K.. I'll stay with my 3900X. lol

[@treyquattro]

@@KitGuruTech and now Bing is returning the same link that you supplied. Evidently a timing thing. Must be announced/embargoed until today and not yet visible in Pacific time zone.

[@chrisbullock6477]

Thanks Leo all the way from North Carolina Research Triangle Park area Raleigh/Durham. I love how you get straight into it without all the misleading and big question mark thumbnails. (Sorry Gamers Nexus/Paul's Hardware...etc) I like your honest and old school mindset when it comes to these reviews. Straight, no chaser.

[@ALFGamingTV]

Thank you mr. Leo. -20 degrees and +~20% perfomance gain??! Good job AMD!

[@zodwraith5745]

Apply the same power limits to the 7950x and you'll see very little performance drop. Both AMD and Intel crank the voltage WAY higher than needed to try and eek out that last 1-2% Sad part is the gaming boost is not 20% vs everything, just in cache sensitive or latency sensitive games. The choice of games here really massively favors that. SotTR LOVES cache and should be thrown out when no one plays it anymore. It inflates averages and misinforms the viewer.

[@gogopowerrangers6596]

Great that Leo did this instead of luke ! New perspective and you don’t look bored out of your head like luke lately either !

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

Agree❤

[@inlovewithmycar7085]

Yep 100%

[@historianfabulousio5128]

Luke is bored just.

[@8020Alive]

Yeah why is this channel always like that? That's a good point. Lazy, bored, mumbling all the time. Thank you for calling them out. Hopefully they get their act together.

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

@@8020Alive its only really luke JT. Leo and James and Dominic are doing great content.

[@HappinessMeterFull]

Picked mine up (7950x3d) 3 weeks ago for $540 usd. With the 7800x3d increasing in price from $360 to 430usd, I decided to go up to the next best. I am happy as heck, this CPU destroys anything I throw at it. and still goes toe too toe with any other high end gaming cpu on the market. Gaming, Streaming, and recording at 2k resolution all at once this card doesn't sweat at all. Makes me want to upgrade my monitor and convert to a 4k setup.

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

Great to see Leo doing these for a change. Instead of just intel. Much faster pace and you look genuinely interested as well !

[@KitGuruTech]

When Meteor Lake comes out I shall do a dance routine and take it up a level Leo

[@stevewatson6839]

@@KitGuruTech We'll remind you, don't worry!!! I expect you'll bat that into the Edgbaston Rd with aplomb too! 👍

[@zkilla4611]

@@KitGuruTech Wasn't it cancelled?

[@GSP-76]

​@@KitGuruTech I do believe there is no Meteor Lake coming... probably just a Raptor Lake refresh.

[@nateTrh]

​@Gurvinder Parmar It's mostly going to be raptorlake refresh but they may bring a "mid tier" meteor lake chip (6P 8E) to the socket if they can manage that. Intel just keeps being intel I guess.

[@bobsmithson8592]

Can we get Leo to do more AMD content ? Best amd article from Kitguru in years ❤

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

ive watched it twice. so much in it to wrap my head around

[@qm3ster]

What's peculiar about Tiny Tina's Wonderland? It's recently become a benchmarking staple. Has there been some controversy? P.S: 3D-CCDs-only edition when?

[@duladrop4252]

Your installation Guide gives us a heads up on this processor. Appreciate the extra very helpful tips... more power to you guys...

[@geofftatesmate7748]

That’s a cracking processor. Not so sure about all that software shenanigans mind you. Thanks Leo

[@Dark88Dragon]

Just wait for the cheaper 7800x3D and be totally blown away by its gaming performance, beatin a 13900KS muahaha

[@bhblais]

Two thoughts: [1] Real good job, very detailed Mr. Leo. I took many screenshots. And [2] I have all my components and waiting to get my hands (hopefully tomorrow) on the 7950X3D... and boy oh boy I wonder what "instructions" will be packaged with the CPU. I would not be surprised that AMD's (Leo's) instructions might not be bundled with the CPU... How many people will install it without checking all these new steps... (eg. installing drivers, BIOS update, etc)? I am betting a fair number. And many will complain that performance is just not there... I am sure that in time Windows will automate a few things, and BIOS revisions will be more commonly pre-installed... but for a few months, it might get hectic out there...

[@KitGuruTech]

I would hope that AMD includes a QR code on the CPU box that takes you to an installation guide, but doubt they will. Update your BIOS, install your chipset drivers, then check and double check! Leo

[@historianfabulousio5128]

Glad I wasnt the only one taking screenshots for future reference ! always a straight to the point review with Leo, im getting a bit tired of some of the bigger channels and the constant thumb nails with things on fire etc etc.

[@zodwraith5745]

How many people will buy it without watching a guide cause they just wanted "the best" but don't follow tech reviews? Once again AMD can always figure out a way to flub good products with questionable tactics and software.

[@sephiroth4543]

How come no one checks Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@FLXBrasil]

Indeed

[@chrisbullock6477]

I'll be ordering my 7900X 3D tomorrow. The decrease in heat will make these even more attractive for SFF builds. I plan on sizing down and putting in my new Cooler Master NRP200 MAX build this week.

[@fluphybunny930]

@Qta And for gaming the 7800x3d is very likely to post the same gaming benchmarks as any of these.

[@skylernicholas5429]

It for sure uses 8 cores w/ the 3d v cache, correct and not just 6? That is my concern, I'm worried the 7900 might be the worst for gaming.

[@zkilla4611]

@@fluphybunny930 Technically. It would lise in the games that done benefit from v-Cache and would prefer higher clocks.

[@ij6708]

The 7900X3D might have a two 6-core CCD design so therefore only 6 cores would have the stacked 3D v-cache

[@zkilla4611]

@@ij6708 This is confirmed fact.

[@canarychrome7012]

A Leo review just after the weekend. My favourite for a Monday night 😊

[@nicholash8021]

Your 7950X is pulling only 36,369 in Cinibench? Something is definitely NOT right. Mine is around 39,200. Try setting -30 on curve optimizer but set your FClock max to -350 and try -325, then -300, and so on until it's unstable. Watch your CPU temps drop 20C, just like the 3D part. If you're running that low, it makes all your other numbers suspect. Thanks for including some of Luke's numbers.

[@turanaydin8929]

I’ve been missing cache for a while but I reckon it’s the missus taking it.

[@Wimpelmann]

Can´t wait to see what the 7800X3D is able to do in Gaming....

[@butosai2539]

should be about the same. the software is limiting the cpu down to what a 7800X3D would be when games are launched

[@fluphybunny930]

@@butosai2539 Games don't take advantage of anything the 7800x3d can do. Like you said, results will be VERY similar. Its a pretty crappy tactic by AMD releasing this first tbh.

[@hiimcortana1568]

@@fluphybunny930 crappy for customers but the best for shareholders of AMD. Businesses will always make the business minded decision before anything.

[@chadthunderjock6520]

HA! "Scary good"! Unfortunately there aren't any scary-good games to play on it...not now, with absolutely nothing on the horizon (only woke brainwashing garbage)! So, Leo, wtf is the point of buying this expensive processor?

[@chrisbullock6477]

Lower TDP isn't bad either.

[@andyjoelharper3448]

Wow, Leo reminds me of John Houseman on MasterPiece Theatre! I am mesmerized by his descriptions of the 7959x3D! Good job, chum! Thanks for a solid review!

[@philard]

I own a 7900x3D now. Thanks for the review. Tech powerup has this checklist for setting up the core parking thing.

[@danijelb.3384]

Is that complicated to do?

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

Missed this yesterday. Great stuff Leo, many thanks for the work, its genuinely useful for what i have coming in the post soon!

[@TheSkepticSkwerl]

But userbenchmark told me Intel was better at 1% lows. 🤣🤣

[@MichaelAddlesee]

Elsewhere I've seen KGL described as Known Good List.

[@KYPMbangi]

Exactly my reaction with that block of foam when I got mine haha, yea like at least they could have at least included more free stuff.. like this stuff aint cheap

[@bellshooter]

Hardware Unboxed simulated the 7800X 3D by disabling the non 3D CCU and achieved even better gaming results. Sacrificing thread based tasks.

[@blkspade23]

However they didn't mention anything about the chipset drivers , XBOX game bar, or the fact that the CPU should be left on the balanced power profile. It wouldn't be far fetched to think any one of those potentially missed steps artificially degraded performance in normal operation. When all those things are done, the 2nd CCD is dynamically disabled as opposed to needing bios changes and reboots.

[@bellshooter]

@@blkspade23 There is absolutely nothing the guys at HB don't know about comparative CPU and GPU testing. I would trust their results more than any other reviewers.

[@peoplez129]

Basically you will get the same performance from a 7800X3D as a 7950X3D, when it comes to gaming, because both will only run on the same 8 core module with the VCACHE. You also don't have to worry about it choosing the wrong module in the 7800X3D, because there is only one module.

[@jasonhenninger8220]

What? No angelic choir for the box opening?

[@KitGuruTech]

You have to imagine the Ahh-ahh-ahhhhhh Leo

[@videokompuuter]

oh dear, verify this, this, this, and this, maybe this, also this. and like this comment kids.

[@maxsmith111]

I know people like the gaming performance, but I think the best quality of this cpu is the productivity AND the gaming performance. Obviously last gen the 5800x3d took a hit to performance that didn't make it viable for serious prod work. But what do I know lol. High idle power draw as he talks about at the end is also a bit irksome, reminds me of the 7900 gpus in a way.

[@Conan568]

I'll be booting mine up for the first time tomorrow.

[@dakrawnik4208]

Love that you aren't focused on 1080p results.

[@toddsmith1083]

Sounds like 4k gaming is basically a tie between a 13900k and 7950x3d?

[@24DEX]

100W in between .....auch!!!

[@toddsmith1083]

@@24DEX 100W in between?

[@24DEX]

@@toddsmith1083 255w intel vs 155 amd.....it’s not a tie...not by a long shoot!

[@toddsmith1083]

@Milcu Robert Appreciate the info! I missed that first time around. Excuse my ignorance as I'm new to high end gaming PC's, but why is an extra 100w THAT big of a deal assuming you have sufficient cooling for the 13900k? 100 extra watts can't amount to a hill of beans as far as your monthly electric bill. I mean, my home theater between my subs, amp for my mains, etc.....is close to 10,000 watts combined, so an extra 100 watts doesn't seem like anything from that perspective. What am I missing here and again, excuse my ignorance as I'm new to this hobby as I'm researching/buying components at the moment for my first build. Thanks!

[@leonardoruiz5994]

@@toddsmith1083 You are absolutely right Power draw froM a desktop is not that a big deal when idle AMD processor actually draws more energy so that argument of power consumption I believe is not that a big issue

[@lordspam2721]

Power consumption and temps are fantastic! that said, I am staying with my 5800X3D for now. it does what I need and paired with a 4080, it sips power while i work and fits all of my gaming needs.

[@VoldoronGaming]

Complicated install for it to work compared to the 5800X3D. Jeez that RTX 4080 is bigger then Leo.

[@darkl3ad3r]

This was a GREAT video. Seriously the best technical analysis of this tech love it.

[@iamahappybunny7640]

A lot of work in his Leo. Well done ❤

[@Aleph-Noll]

since all the cores will have the 3d cache on the 7800x3d i guess all these extra steps will be pointless

[@KitGuruTech]

Yup, that's what I say in my conclusion. I cannot think the extra drivers will be necessary for Ryzen 7 3D and that will make the review of that CPU all the more interesting. Leo

[@HitmanSC2]

The setup stuff you included for this processor is extremely helpful, bookmarking for later when I get it ahah. Cheers!

[@srdjanvincic597]

Thank you very much Leo for this thorough test. It really gives an objective insight. Maybe you could also consider making a comparison of 7950X3D vs 7900 non X model.

[@robertsimon8046]

Its big difference

[@chrisbullock6477]

Interestingly in Hitman I've seen where the 7950X 3D fairs a bit better over the i9 with a 7900XTX

[@maxwellsmart3156]

Not being able to review something isn't a con, is it? The upfront cost of AM5 will be mitigated over the longevity of the platform. Idle power of 100W is wrong, it seems to be dependent on the motherboard, as discussed by TechTesters, which was between 23.9 W and 56 W idle power depending on the motherboard. What's that all about? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that your data is suspect.

[@KitGuruTech]

To be crystal clear, the 7950X3D CPU idle power draw on the Asus was 48W and system power 121W. The 7950X CPU power draw was 51W and the system power draw was 130W. Leo

[@maxwellsmart3156]

@@KitGuruTech Power at the wall, I understand. But it seems that idle power could be lower based on other motherboards. Although, once you run Blender for a bit, it's all forgiven. Part of that is the cost of the chiplet design and the I/O die. Makes sense to turn it off when not in use.

[@argesyalcn5881]

I love the word chiplet.

[@mrb.5610]

If AMD has similar power draw in the server market, they'll stomp Intel. Keeping a room full of servers cool is no joke.

[@Hugh_I]

They do. Sapphire Rapids improved Intel's situation in server a lot, but Epycs are still more efficient on top of overall maintaining their perf lead (unless you consider edge cases with Intel's specialized accelerators).

[@darren253]

I really would like to do AM5 build but the expense is off putting.

[@kenankalav5949]

Amazing Leo managed to unbox this one without thowing the packaging across the room in disgust.

[@rhydlew]

The reason for the discrepancy between Luke's chip and Leo's is brilliantly explained in DerBauer's recent video

[@hernano221]

THE ONLY HONEST, REAL WITH MUCH OF COMMON SENSE... review of 7950X 3D in all KZbin!! 🎉👍🏻🙏🏻

[@arya_rafli]

Ready for Ryzen 9 7950X3D VS i9 13900KS

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

No. No. No. Looking at Averages is a big mistake. 1% low tells the whole story.

[@KitGuruTech]

And that, of course, is the reason we include figures for both averages and 1% low.

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

@@KitGuruTech you tell him !

[@overclockingdemon7179]

A great processor and fantastic work from AMD, but surely that setup procedure has to be an issue for most people?

[@checkers7730]

Thanks for the in-depth info on AMDs recommendations for set up. Not seeing this info from other sources.

[@garryherriman4222]

Thanks Leo, great video. I'm upgrading from an I9-11900k and have a rtx 4080 and the same asus motherboard featured in this video. Very helpful and is going to be my go to resource for getting everything up and running 👍

[@zodwraith5745]

Your skepticism is warranted. At $700 it's a joke. With how everyone is gushing over it AMD must be paying out some good marketing money while only a handful are pointing out the emperor has no clothes. The choice of games here read like they came at AMD's request. You badly need to balance out your games selection. Save $150 and buy a 13900kf for 98% of the gaming but better production. 2% average better in gaming =/= 22% increase in price. If you're concerned with production only go with the 7950x and still save $125. If you're just gaming save $300 with a 13700kf, 5800x3d, or wait a whopping month for the 7800x3d, and apply that savings towards your GPU that will give you _vastly_ more performance over your CPU. Honestly there's no one that I can see buying this outside of bragging rights for how much you spent, and we all know those guys are wankers. As a consumer trading money for a product the most important spec you should care about your purchases is performance per dollar, and this loses badly in that spec. It's not like the 4090 where there's no competition in it's class so it can demand a premium. Just like Nvidia is successfully brainwashing people into thinking 4 figures is normal for a GPU, AMD is hard at work to convince people $700 is normal for a CPU. Ironic how quickly everyone that laughed at the 13900ks stupid pricing magically think this is ok at that same price, and I don't remember any benchmarks _degrading_ with the KS over it's sibling. At least the KS could make the argument that it was only for hardcore overclockers that happily pay $1000+ for binned silicon. These OC for shit. Stop rewarding these corps' money grabs with good reviews.

[@vm123]

So high idle power consumption is still a thing? Thought it was software issues...

[@martinfodor2848]

Tired of AMD's hype and all its problems. Why would I need that much extra cache to play 4k on a 4090? Having (the latest) AMD processor, I have yet to use a 2021 BIOS which is much better than the latest AGESA update. Intel makes everything easier.

[@jeffdmsl]

If you want peak gaming performance or want a powerful cpu with cores/threads exclusively in a small form factor build - 7950X3D is great, due to lower power consumption and temps. 13900K is limited to the bigger side of SFF that can support a 280 aio. 7950X3D on a low profile air cooler in smaller cases is a good pairing.

[@03chrisv]

Intel released the 13900 non k variant this year that has a sizable lower TDP without much performance loss so it's great for SFF cases. Considering the very premium price of the 7950x 3D I believe the 13900/13900k is the better option overall since its about $120 cheaper, offers similar gaming performance and remains number 1 in content creation software. The 7950x 3D is great, but it's not the "one to rule them all" like I was hoping it would be.

[@jeffdmsl]

​@@03chrisv SFF alone is already a premium with more expensive PSU's, and Motherboards. If you're in the market for an i9/Ryzen 9 and SFF, $120 difference shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Though the i9 13900 will draw less power than the K variant, it'll perform noticably worse in gaming with its locked clocked speed(vs. K) and 5600mhz ram. The 7950X3D can undervolt better with PBO2 CO, boosting performance while reducing temps and power at the same time. You can't go wrong with either CPU, but I'd take the 7950X3D because it's faster. That extra cache greatly helps the 1% lows for 240hz/360hz high refresh rate titles - Apex legends, Valorant, R6 Siege and also it'll greatly benefit MMO games like the 5800X3D did. If you're on 4K, the 13900 makes sense. I agree it's definitely not the "one to rule them all", it's more of a niche product IMO. You're getting the fastest and power efficient gaming cpu and a high thread cpu that gets you roughly 95% the way there in productivity. It'll tick those boxes out there for someone.

[@datapro007]

Great review

[@DrBreezeAir]

Thanks for the review and especially that unboxing.

[@christopherditchburn4769]

AMD has always used 'slight of hand' to exagerate their CPU's performance claims. It's why I haven't bought an AMD processor since their disingenuous 'XP' range back in 2001. And they are still using trickery to compete with intel to this day!

[@justindavis7600]

Amazing silicon design from amd. Very impressive !

[@jamiewilliams1410]

Amazing would have been if the V cache was on both CCDs, they had the ability to release something amazing and chose high end mediocrity. I would have gladly paid more for a 7900X3D gaming CPU.

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

Great performance from amd. But that software section melted my brain.

[@PcKolog]

Thank you for this beautifully detailed content. The question on my mind is this. While playing games (1080P / 1440P), I want to stream over the GPU (RTX 4080 )and record video on the CPU at the same time. According to this scenario, should I buy 7950X or 7950X3D?

[@KitGuruTech]

A tough decision! Leo

[@PcKolog]

@@KitGuruTech Actually, what I'm trying to ask is, can the 7950X3D run that much performance with x264 overhead? It's really ridiculous that no one has tested this.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@PcKolog The only way to be sure is to try it. Part of the answer will come down to parking the game on the 3D CCD however recording/streaming might go better using the IGP in which case the CPU won't be handling both tasks. Leo

[@regperinwodge]

Please please run DCS world and MSFS....v hard to find anything for simmers

[@balla2172]

In other tests it's on average its a bit faster in some areas and worse in others

[@robloxteam9890]

Always enjoy a good Leo build.

[@zontarr22-zon]

11:24 the level of subtlety in sarcasm of Leo is unprecedented.

[@Shankaporomous]

Everything I could say will sound very mean, so I won’t, lol😂 but I use to tell my gramma, of tell me about that time you, and there he goes, 2 hours later he still at it lol😂

[@ernestkarapetyan1599]

AMD Ryzen 7950X3D the best low-profile coolers?

[@macd7743]

Even if processors are usually mostly GPU limited at 4K, I'd still like to see the results for 4K. For those like me, the most relevant results for gaming are going to be those that represent how I game-4K. I know that results are technically most interesting for lower resolutions, but there are differences in plenty of scenarios at 4K, and 4K is a future resolution even if it has been around a long time (I've been gaming at 4K for about 10 years!). This is nevertheless a great review. Thank you 👍 (Edited to add deserved kudos.)

[@funplaymix7710]

Same here

[@pascaldifolco4611]

As a Brit you should know that KGL stands for King's German Legion 😂

[@chrisbullock6477]

For myself, someone who's worked in and around Game/Software development its interesting nobody is talking about how amazing these 3D-V Cache chips still are at UNREAL ENGINE and Unity Engine compiling and game development.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

How good is it?

[@hiimcortana1568]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat basically almost same perf as 7950x.. and at least 30-40% lower power consumption from other reviewers data

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@hiimcortana1568 I asked specifically for unreal/unity actually....

[@alphaomega1969]

I have to say your video quality is very good.

[@sultankg2541]

That’s a lovely test setup.

[@danijelb.3384]

Isn’t there issues with Windows picking the wrong cores for gaming?

[@choppergirl]

How is Windows 7 suppose to deal with 8 cores / 16 threads... just.. disappearing and reappearing at will??? Let alone performance cores vs efficiency cores. Have these CPU manufacturers lost their BLANK mind?

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

nobody is running Windows 7 on an AM5 platform. i say this as the last person on earth running Windows 7 who also happens to be building a new machine on the AM5 platform.

[@choppergirl]

@@TheJacklikesvideosI know right, and it swcks. My best compromise is Windows 10 running OpenShell, ShutUp10+, and WinAeroTweaker to make it look and function as much as possible as Windows 7. This is fine, until we're all forced to upgrade to Windows 11... and then what. Will there be third party hack tools available still by people so motivated against the Windows 11 UI to port and or create them. I don't know. I still run Windows 7 on every other machine but my AM5 platform, where lack of drivers forces me to run that modified Windows 10.

[@benihya]

So, the games we thought where GPU bottlenecked on rtx 3090 in 2021 where actually CPU bottlenecked?

[@KitGuruTech]

Put it this way; in future I shall pay MUCH more attention to the choice of CPU when I read/watch graphics card reviews. Leo

[@sunfy8]

'I still don't know what is KGL stands for' 😅😅 Me too...

[@sinan_islam]

I paid KZbin a monthly subscription to avoid ads, but now I dont know whom shall I pay to avoid gay intros in every video on KZbin 0:29

[@KitGuruTech]

Just don’t click our videos if that’s all you get from them ? Will save you typing.

[@cikou8076]

Hi Sir thnkyou for all the videos. I always watch. I want to build a pc: but i am confused: it will this cpu: ryzen 9 7950x3d or the intel i9 14900k with the master motherboard. I will use it for heavy programming(coding) and i also want to game: think with the 4080 or 70ti Wich would you recommend? I like to hear.😊

[@gurugamer8632]

For video editing in apps like adobe premiere , after effects and DaVinci Resolve which CPU is the best for performance? I9 13900K , 13900KS or AMD 7950X or AMD 7950X3D?

[@craighutchinson1087]

I really like your content

[@Sleepy.Time.]

for the price it better be, considering its twice the cost of a 13700k and gives only a few percent more frames ill pass

[@lelouchabrilvelda1794]

But the power consumption and the cooler for 3dv is greater than intel.

[@Sleepy.Time.]

@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 this is likely true, my 13700k does get rather toasty from all the power is consumes

[@VK92KL]

Funny how 5800x3d is almost next to it :D

[@96kylar]

I dunno. Not sure who this is for tbh.

[@johnbryce8267]

from what I'm seeing and hearing about this processor,... it is a throwback (in design terms) to the "Dual Pentium" processor days,... only AMD jammed them both into one socket... and is actually quite a bargain in this manner!! It's a R7 7800X3D ($449) and a R7 7700X (~$340?). So... at it's retail price of $699 You're getting the value of ~$789 (not to mention the efficiency of them being in one chip) and You only need an AM5 motherboard with one socket.

[@bigarmydave]

Oooooo!

[@GSP-76]

The early gaming benchmarks aren't giving us the total picture of the 3d CPUs yet...wait for a few driver and BIOS updates and performance will definitely go much higher and more consistently across games.

[@TucoRamires]

Nice review.

[@kilner79]

and the 7900x3d is even better in gaming and cheaper hence why reviwers havent got the chip yet

[@KitGuruTech]

Cheaper for sure but better? Dunno about that Leo

[@kilner79]

@@KitGuruTech better in gaming not better in all aplications

[@fluphybunny930]

@@KitGuruTech Games aren't using anything more than what a 7800x3d will provide. 99% certain you will see 99% of the performance at a MUCH lower cost in games. AMD crappy tactics holding off its release till March. Others have called them out on this.

[@vigilant_1934]

@@kilner79 The 7900X3D, if setup like the 7900X, has 2 CCDs with 6 cores each and one of those CCDs will have VCache in the 3D version. In case you haven't figured it out by now that means only 6 cores will get the extra cache instead of 8 like the 7950X3D and 7800X3D so every intelligent person in the tech world is estimating that the 7900X3D will be the SLOWEST for gaming. If AMD does something different like have 1 CCD fully unlocked with 8 cores and the other disabled to use only 4 cores then maybe there won't be a gaming difference but I doubt they''ll make that big of a change.

[@vigilant_1934]

@@fluphybunny930 The top comment is about the 7900X3D not the 7800X3D which won't even be out for a couple months.

[@darknessblades]

Could you test if a AM5 contact frame would improve the thermals? they are quite cheap. thermalright sells them for about 10 euro

[@jamiewilliams1410]

Does this CPU see any improvement in Win11 with it's better scheduling of the CPU tasks or is it identical to Win10 results.

[@GroundGame.]

AMD's packaging is getting slightly better too. . . Slightly. .

[@inlovewithmycar7085]

That was an absolutely brilliant article leo. I love the approach. Much more organic.

[@Argooh]

My 5600x gets older by the second 🥲

[@cuongtang9539]

Scary pricy, nothing else.

[@joshua_1_9__]

When are we getting a shirt with Leo on it in the store?

[@AnotherAnonymousMan]

As far as I've seen this is the most comprehensive software stack set up instructions on KZbin.

[@Charlie-zj3hw]

Space cashhhhhh

[@huzaifavawda8383]

Nice one Leo!