AMD Ryzen 9 7950X vs 5950X vs 3950X - Upgrade Time?

I’ve compared AMD’s last three 16 core Ryzen 9 CPUs to help you decide which to pick, or if it’s worth upgrading! Check prices 👇
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3950X: geni.us/LOGNBt
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RAM (AM5) - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo: bit.ly/3UKDRGL
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7950X vs 5950X vs 3950X Comparison Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:11 CPU Spec Differences
0:44 Price Differences
1:16 Test PC
1:48 Cinebench R23
2:33 Clock Speeds
3:07 Power Draw
3:33 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
3:55 Temperatures
5:03 Blender Open Data
5:27 V-Ray
5:50 Corona Renderer
6:04 Linux Kernel Compilation
6:29 LLVM Compilation
6:44 Handbrake Video Encode
7:21 Adobe Premiere
7:48 DaVinci Resolve
8:03 Adobe Photoshop
8:19 Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook)
8:31 7-Zip Compression & Decompression
8:59 GeekBench
9:22 7950X vs 3950X - All Application Differences
9:44 7950X vs 5950X - All Application Differences
10:09 12 Games at 1080p, 1440p & 4K
10:19 Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
11:06 Microsoft Flight Simulator
11:36 Total War: WARHAMMER III
12:10 Halo Infinite
12:34 Call of Duty Warzone
12:59 Apex Legends
13:32 Fortnite
13:56 CS:GO
14:32 Cyberpunk 2077
15:03 Red Dead Redemption 2
15:32 The Riftbreaker
15:48 Watch Dogs Legion
16:07 7950X vs 3950X (1080p)
16:30 7950X vs 5950X (1080p)
16:49 7950X vs 3950X (1440p)
17:15 7950X vs 5950X (1440p)
17:28 7950X vs 3950X (4K)
17:44 7950X vs 5950X (4K)
17:56 12 Game Average
18:17 Cost Per Frame (Best Gaming Value)
18:55 Cost Per Cinebench Point (Best Productivity Value)
19:22 Conclusion - 7950X Worth It?
20:47 Intel Core i9-13900K vs AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
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[@JarrodsTech]

I’ll compare AMD's Ryzen 9 7950X against Intel’s Core i9-13900K soon, subscribe for more CPU comparisons!

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Mmmmm. I can't wait for more of those Microsoft Word benchmarks. ;)

[@raviundhad1929]

Who's in team red?

[@simoichinose8133]

13900k already better

[@elmirazizov6316]

Well, don't forget to bring a fire extinguisher with you in case 13900k could overclock

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

@@MarcoGPUtuber 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GearSeekers]

Probably the best 7950X review out right now. Awesome work Jarrod!

[@KellyWu04]

It'll be nice if Intel 12900K was compared against.

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! 😭

[@criznittle968]

I wanted one until i saw Der8uer delid it and get 25c better cooling. The IHS is trash, i hope it's better next gen

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Great overview! Thanks for your clear breakdown. I just wish I didn't have to take the plunge from AM4 to the AM5 chipset to get the benefit from the 7950X.

[@joelansier1294]

Thank you for testing the AAA games at high settings instead of forcing a difference at low or medium 720p. I've never made a CPU buying decision based on Cyberpunk low settings.

[@skorpers]

What's the point then? It's not like a magical force is in play when you increase your GPU load. Different people making different benchmarks will also sway the results more in favor of CPU/GPU.

[@ArbitraryMind]

Great video - can't imagine the work you've put into this. This is almost GN levels of quality - which is speaking volumes.

[@JarrodsTech]

Wow, thank you!

[@Tystros]

Actually, much better than GNs review of the 7950X. GN did not include the 3950X in their 7950X review benchmarks, which I found quite weird. The type of person who buys a 7950X very likely either had a 5950X, or a 3950X before, because they need flagship multicore performance, and are interested in knowing how much uplift the 7950X brings compared to their current CPU. So not including the 3950X in the 7950X review benchmarks was a bad decision from GN.

[@anhiirr]

@@Tystros the main issue is INTERCONNECT and how that R9 series "access" utliizes and inherently needs to pump voltage to activate dorant cores/ccx/zencores to utilize a cache/pool to in turn access and cache system memory. Its still an INHERENT "design flaw" principle that amd has on the table vs intel as far as gaming or high data throughput/load based computing. WHICH also applies to the potentiation of the X3D "design". Its IMO why the 5800x3d Was at a "tighter" operating range bc....a wider clock speed/range of operation leads to INHERENT latency....as voltages ramp up and down...purely for utlizing "dormant" cores for background processing or ram/cache intercommunication and chipset etc communication. It was also a common aspect among the laptop market...considering ive owned 3750h/asus laptops/tested, and 5900hx....as well as owning/KEEPING a 9750h laptop and 10750h laptops by comparison to the AMD laptops i wound up returning. AMD requires a lot of end user optimization for a TRUE ideal endgame experience. Granted my 5900x is ran stock bc i like its operating capability and temps out of the box since its got a factory "tighter" voltage curve than a hotter 5800x out of the box which needs pbo2 or core voltage optimization to be IDEAL. ESP in itx builds. Either way fact some ppl can get a 3950x for near 350$ makes for a DYNAMITE gaming+workstation at that budget. Gives a lot of ppl ACCESS to "potential" they otherwise never had. I saw this interconnect issue from the 5900hx to the 3950x to the 5900x...from ccx design to zencore etc...its why i wont be getting into amd/x3d until they can "Solve" this concept granted zen3 is pretty good and the current state of intel i presonally dont need an upgrade but to others....thinking of going amd...id consdier an "entry level" cpu or etc if you dont need a massive work/horse of a cpu. IMO amd may offer a solution to this interconnect issue more or less "around the corner" of our potential future....and if that happens IT will be the "one to own". To Ideally build around and would be a system that would hold up for a GOOD chunk of years from a gaming and WORK/Productivity standpoint. AS API get further developed win11 and dx12 ultimate become more mainstream and developers are more orietned with the "potential" the industry is leaning towards as well as aspects like hardware acceleration and async computing....this "NEXT" era of platforms will be GAME changing...as well as usb4 or type c interfaces and their THROUGHPUT. The SCALE of these implementations From developer to end user is going to be massive. The way sandybridge offered HUGE gains to gamers...and DEVS had end users/data that was far more VIABLE for their development cycle than the systems prior.

[@Dogheadman]

i believe my 3950x is capable of working at least 3 more years, and i just need to upgrade my 1660ti to 4080. thanks for the awesome video!

[@seeeLAH1]

id be happy with a 3080 coming from 1080

[@maccadere1912]

If thats your budget man id go for a AMD 7000 series gpu. Unless your using pc for productivity then amd is way better. 4090 is really the only "worth it" 4000 series gpu.

[@amrishpatel3501]

I also have that same Ryzen CPU & I'm using an RX 5700 XT with that. I'm planning to upgrade to either an RX 7900 XTX or the RX 7950 XT. The last Nvidia card I had was a GTX960 lol :P Update: Apparrently there are gonna be more powerful GPUs like the 7990XTX from AMD, but it might only get released at the end of next year. :/

[@Helios.vfx.]

Same CPU here. Do you have micro stuttering?

[@Dogheadman]

@@Helios.vfx. sry I have no idea what micro stuttering is, but it has been working fine those years i would say.

[@TallyHoTech]

Time to upgrade your Threadripper. Woof

[@JarrodsTech]

Haha I'll wait to see how 13th gen does, I suspect it might be better for editing still with quicksync.

[@MommyKhaos]

Something tell me that the Zen 4 Threadripper is going to make heavy use of 3D VCahche. I'm ready for 1/2 gig of L3 cache, gives ya enough to run the entirety of windows 98 in cache alone.

[@lupierz]

Thanks for that. I'm sitting on 3950x and the question about is it time to upgrade is something at the back of the head. I think it's still a lot of power and for mixed workstation and gaming use it's working well for now, so probably no need to step up yet.

[@Geekzmo]

This is so far the best review yet! I cannot imagine how much time it took to make this video. But way better than Linus' Jay2Cetns, Pauls, Kyle... TOP NOTCH! Kudos for you.

[@swastikgamer5012]

"But At What Cost?" me: My entire wallet.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

The cost is I can't put it in laptops! T_T

[@stanb1455]

Clevo and their resellers have put 5950Xes in their top-of-the-line laptops, so it could still be possible with the 7950X, so long you don't mind battery life in seconds and an ungodly amount of heat.

[@Tystros]

I've never seen a video from you before, and I'm impressed! Great video! Especially thanks for including some compilation benchmarks, including LLVM - for some reason many reviewers seem to forget how many people buy these CPUs for primarily compiling code.

[@ALPHABYTE94]

But ryzen 9 5950X is faster than in this video

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

7950x is a great CPU, but since I am gaming in 4K I will wait for upgrading. Productivity wise the 5950x is still a beast. Upping from 5950x would mean new mobo, new DDR5 ram etc. but of course 5950x and am4 mb+ram can be sold on second hand market or repurposed as a server or something. But for my needs at least I think I will wait a while before upgrading from 5950x.

[@seeeLAH1]

5950x is king 105w....7950x youll be spending a fortune to cool it

[@maccadere1912]

@@seeeLAH1 not true, its really doesnt get hot as they say. While i do have a noctua d15 cooling it, my cpu fans are almost always on low and it never passes 80° even when running spotify, multiple chrome windows, cyberpunk 2077, and various background tasks since my pc is productivity. (Damned adobe ui)

[@YoloVib3s]

This is my exact thoughts about upgrading from my 3950X … as such I’ll wait until 8/9 series

[@kabosuinu]

@maccadere1912 Yo, 80°? Holy Shit. Of course it's like they say, haha. Maybe not the hottest but still too hot in my opinion. Could lead to change the cooling pasta more often and being worried in summer

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

​@@kabosuinu the newer cpus are made to run hotter. If you dont want them to run as hot, you can set target temp in BIOS or do a curve undervolt without loosing a lot of performance. A small bit will be lost should be noted. However if you dont need all those cores, a 7800x3d does run very cool and uses very little power.

[@bfish9700]

I ended up buying a 12400 a bit ago, just seems like no brainer value to me. The total platform cost for zen 4 was a no go for me. I got a decent mobo, 12400 and ram for under $400. zen 4 would have been double that for negligible gain.

[@joshuajohn74]

over the years it will be ryzen due to copmatibility ad cheaper costs on the apu

[@Deathdemon65]

Watch linuses video on ryzen 7000 the 7600x its really dissappinting only 3 to 4 percent faster then 12600k

[@samvortex4136]

@@joshuajohn74 "oVer The yEar" same bulshit, amd fansboes brings over and over again? Nobody buys such processor like i5 12400 just for it to last 3 years lol They expect it to last 5-6 years, enough time to upgrade whole system

[@Eleganttf2]

If you care about future investment then the 7600x is a no brainer, atleast its future proof especially with AMD supporting AM5 till 2025+

[@vMaxHeadroom]

The 12400 is a great CPU and such good value...These new 7000 series Ryzen's whilst more than impressive do run hot and I wonder what sort of performance you lose if running just basic air cooling as all the reviews I have seen were running 360mm AIO's... Hopefully platform costs will reduce when the launch the B series motherboards. And the whole future investment is really a non issue as you will have two generations of motherboards and I tend to drive at least 5 to 6 years before upgrading completely. More importantly CPU's both from AMD and Intel are just so good now that they should last a longer time..

[@swasho2939]

Finally a cpu that can run Microsoft Word 2.48% faster ! I think I found my dream workhorse cpu

[@brunofrye]

some of us run 532 word and powerpoint instances alright, bud? don't judge me 😛

[@Nick-4K]

I have a 3950x and it's a beast. So I'm excited to upgrade to 7950x next year.

[@nico_fr6743]

don't just don't this cpu is an oven

[@CalaTec]

@@nico_fr6743 I want to upgrade my 9900k and just looking at power consumption I want to buy the 5950X, seems more reasonable. I would buy the 7950X if the performance difference wasn't at the cost of high power consumption.

[@peacebypunch2648]

Thanks for the comparison and the reconfirmation that the power efficiency of 5950x is still great. Also good to know that the 7950x is indeed faster alright but at a cost rather repelling.

[@hardcorehardware361]

For people on 5000 series there really is no point in upgrading but for those of us on 3000 series like me I own a 3950x, the 7950x is a pretty good upgrade. Just those motherboard prices are bloody insane..

[@seeeLAH1]

id wait for the 9950x

[@hardcorehardware361]

@@seeeLAH1 Na I need a CPU upgrade and I got tired of waiting.

[@seeeLAH1]

@@hardcorehardware361 yeah who am i to say .. i dunno what u do lol

[@hardcorehardware361]

@@seeeLAH1 I respect your opinion, my 3950x is holding back my 3090 and I run Linux VM's and needed another system.

[@xDraga]

7950x was definitely IN FLAMES 🔥🔥

[@valentinvas6454]

I'm a bit disappointed with gaming performance and thermals/consumption but damn those multi thread gains are serious. I guess this means Zen 4 Epyc and Threadripper processors will once again slay the competition. Especially the 96 core monsters.

[@h1tzzYT]

Great benches, looking forward for your 5600x vs 7600x vs 12600k vs 13600k video (or something similar) :)

[@Micromation]

3950X looks super good compared to 5950X especially in Blender, might be worth picking up 2nd hand for a workstation. I've seen these go for 220-250.

[@teddym2808]

I actually like the idea of the 12 core one, the 7900X, with turbo disabled. Those few hundred mhz will make a massive difference to temps, and a flat 4.7ghz on 12 cores 24/7 is plenty.

[@_B.C_]

I was able to get my 5950x for $505 a day before the 5800x3d on 4/19. If you’re looking to get a 7950x, maybe wait till right before the new x3D chips come out next year. Should be more mobo options and cheaper ddr5 ram prices by then too.

[@IceColdRona]

And cheaper mobos too😭

[@anhiirr]

IMO unless youre into content creation/development....i dont place too much emphasis on "upgrades/new tech" unless youre in dire need of an upgrade/or old build is RIP. As far as gaming there is almost minimal to no real world need for a system this "FAST" unless you PURELY prioritize MAXING out AAA games...most ppl that play PVE etc...bc multiplayer is generally a "REALM" where ppl dont even run maxed settings or even at times NATIVE resolution....they generally run a "mix" of what equates to better performance or frag/success viability....which already negates a lot of the necessity for "flagship" components. For most general/genuine gamers. Or ppl that play esporst/freesports titles, or multiplayer online gamers. Conversely If you LARGELY prioritize AAA and PVE titles....youd be better off with a skewed budget towards a 4k capble GPU ideal 12v rail psu...vs a 500$+ cpu...granted the inherent aspects of SYSTEM load in a 4k gaming scenario. It really changes how ppl should/plan/budget their build in this CURRENT "ERA"...bc a 5800x3d and "faster/more expensive GPU" is going to be better than a 700$ cpu and lesser GPU ultimately. And "high refresh gaming" is somewhat of a marketing gimmick esp on IPS panels. So a lot of ppl have been schilled into thinking they need 300 fps on QHD XD. VS the huge VIABILITY of per frame adaptive sync/monitors and how VIABLE this concept is for a "lesser sytem" esp on PVE titles where "latency/frame times" isnt remotely as much of an emphasis vs "multiplayer". With added emphasis of using a controller for some hack n slashers etc...and the inherent latency of that aspect already being on the table. FWIW i have multiple systems and had/sold/tested multiple in the past...my laptop/work setup...is a 4k amoleds OMEN with a 105w 2070s....and you can enable "FAST SYNC" ON THE 60HZ MONITOR and it plays games smoothly/better like BFV on 4k or 1440p at 60hz including frame times....than a "budget" desktop like a 3600 w a 5500xt...per ex. or a 3600 with a desktop 2070. While also doubling as a work system where you can plug to an external and effectively have a 4k amoled as your secondary monitor...not to mention how ideal it is for content/consumption and hack n slashers w a controller.

[@_B.C_]

@@anhiirr it is for content creation, I rarely game on pc and never AAA. That 5950X was put a music visualization computer for my synthesizers.

[@isaacr7416]

Im not worried about the 95 degrees for the cpu, I'm worried about my room heating up and my energy bill hahah

[@seeeLAH1]

only good for one season lol

[@fretbuzzly]

I just picked up a 5950X for $360. Seems to be the going price now. I contemplated going to AM5, but my mobo is still going strong and my 1700 has served me well all these years so the 5950X will keep me going for much longer. Well done AMD.

[@denvera1g1]

According to AMD 115C is considered hot, i wonder if this means future generations will see 110c "normal" temperatures, and at that point can we use water boiling to cool the CPU, mega phase change cooling FYI, we currently use water in heat pipes and vapor chambers but it is generally under vacuum to reduce the boiling point. Imagine your cooling loop just runs at ambient pressure, and used an expanssion chamber to get a larger steam volume without needing much more than 5PSI from the boiling water

[@yungnachty4474]

Coming from a 5950X, I believe Zen 5 or even Zen 6 will be when it makes sense to upgrade

[@yesmyman2950]

I bought a 5950x for $350 couldn't let it pass lol

[@Behdad47]

What if you were to repeat the same tests with 4090 when it releases? My gut tells me that 7950X shines more when the GPU is beefier than the last-generation CPUs. After watching Linus' video about the difference that the GPU and the ram make, precisely the "We were WRONG about RAM" video, I'm pretty confident that your test results will make more sense once you get your hands on the 4090.

[@Theworthsearcher]

And also with the highest RDNA3 GPU with SAM (resizable bar) and everything, what is fo a full AMD system. ;)

[@Behdad47]

@@Theworthsearcher Exactly. I'm pretty sure he'll repeat the same tests.

[@rezatriwansyah268]

the actual cost for each cpu platforms actually what makes this generation unique in rigbuilding, thank you for your insights on 7000 series!

[@magmatri-studios]

I'm happy with my 3900x. When I bought it, my choices were the 5800x or the 3900x (very good deal then on microcenter). I chose the 3900x for faster rendering/encoding and it's always done great for me so far.

[@nemure]

Tbh the 3 are far more powerful than anyone really need for gaming. I'd buy the cheapest without second thoughts

[@RobBCactive]

Well I'd buy the chip that's actually recommended for gaming and is cheaper than any of them. The Eco mode has been tested by PC World and performance is very good.

[@spetsru2906]

Similar thing people said about 4 cores just 5 years ago. Now it's 6 tittering 8 for some games. Add multiple screens and multiple applications being used while gaming. More cores makes better sense.

[@RobBCactive]

@@spetsru2906 Bad comparison, 4c/4t is NOT the same as 6c/12t with larger unified caches and higher memory bandwidth. People watching YT to self cripple while they're gaming with Live Chat eating CPU can simply run the nonsense on their phone, saving money on CPU.

[@kerbodynamicx472]

So... 7600X then?

[@drandersjiang]

Buy 5800X3D for gaming.

[@brunofrye]

holding on to my 5950x. May check out the 8950x or 9950x, get through the teething of a new socket and more optimization

[@Vilmir]

A dream for code compilation. Thanks Jarrod!

[@michaelbyrd4004]

Thanks for the video. The naming of this new processor seems incorrect. Both of the previous 16 core processors had a TDP of 105 w. This one is different with a TDP of 170w. Also, with the frequency difference, it truly should have had a different moniker. 7970x would have been more appropriate.

[@shawnsmith7048]

This is by far the most comprehensive AMD comparison upgrade video I've ever seen. Nice Job!

[@gigamoment]

You are an amazing reviewer. I subscribed instantly. Could you also give us some tests about the RDNA2 iGPU performance with some light gaming and productivity? For many people is important we don't need a monster GPU, but not a really bad one either.

[@tyre1337]

the row highlighting helps quite nicely

[@jamesrock9446]

I just love how I typed 5950x vs 7950x in search and I get that plus the 3950x.

[@davidgates5699]

Just got the 5950 for $450, no other changes need as already had 3080 GPU and stable MB. Will wait for second gen of X670 and prices to drop on DDR5. MB and RAM are a lot more on the x670 platform.

[@robertstan298]

Will you be doing 3900X/XT v 5900X v 7900X tests as well?

[@JayzBeerz]

If on AM4 still the 5950X is only $399.00 right now.

[@sepehr57]

I’m watching this video after 1 year. What a great video it is. Great job ma man ❤

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MaFiAMaX]

I like your crystal clear rewievs. Thanks bro.

[@deadtake2664]

Could we see the 1950X and 2950X added later at some point?

[@fransarj]

While 1080p benchmarks are good to show true potential, 4k/Ultrawide/1440p is where all of us will be basing our purchase/upgrade decisions. More pls. Well done.

[@Cyberware77]

It's great that am4 has been around for a while, now I can upgrade my ryzen 5 3600 to ryzen 9 3900x for £200 and have no trouble since my motherboard can take up to a 5950x.

[@MK-xc9to]

Well , undervolt the 7950X , negativ 10 in the Curve editor should be stable manageable , as usual , the Voltages are set high to maximise the useable Dies . Normally this should work , the 7950 X dies are binned = the better ones .

[@GarryMah85]

Thanks man. I've had my 3950x since release, and it looks like I'm still not missing out on anything at 4k gaming.

[@brunoalmeida5293]

hello bro. what is your video card? Is the 3950x still a good opportunity today? the price is very affordable for what I researched.

[@GarryMah85]

@@brunoalmeida5293 i’m still using my old gtx 1080, which is still fine for the games i play on 1440p. I think the 3950x may be a bottleneck if you plan on using top end graphic card, but for mid range gaming i think it’ll be fine.

[@OleksandrSe]

Your tests are freaking good, fuice, cherry on top of cake, jacked😎

[@crazyelf1]

It may be best to wait for the 7950 X3D. Most games these days are more GPU limited, especially if you are playing at higher resolutions. There's one other big issue - you may also want to go custom loop given the power consumption of the 7950X. The 7950X isn't really geared for gaming, especially if you are playing at 4k, as much as it is for multithreaded workloads that can take advantage of the extra cores.

[@totalprocall6894]

Poor honestly...they should have released 3D-VCache models from the get go. That efficiency is sickeningly bad considering the times we live in.

[@johndoh5182]

Your percentages listed were off from time to time. In Cinebench going from the 5950X to the 7950X is about a 50% uplift and you said 25%. That's a huge difference. Start with the 5950X and take the difference between it and the 7950X. This is the increase over the 5950X. The difference is the uplift over the 5950X. In fact with your numbers (different reviewers, different numbers), the uplift is almost 50%. . Wording is EVERYTHING when giving percentages. So, best to figure out how you're going to word percentages and stick with that wording every time so the calculation you use is correct for the wording you use. For instance 50% faster than the 5950X is 50% of the speed of the 5950X added to the performance of the 5950X. 100% uplift = 2X the speed of the 5950X. In Cinebench that would be a score of 51780. It's pretty obvious that 38,467 is almost half way between 25,890 and 51,780, so the 7590X with the numbers you got is about 50% faster than the 5950X. This is in line with what's been shown, where the variation is around 42 or 43% up to almost 50% like what you showed.

[@JarrodsTech]

When I said 25% I was still talking about single core, which is correct. I then go on to say the multicore is 49% right after, sorry if you misunderstod.

[@potatochobit]

bro, I am still using ryzen 7 1700X since launch. it has served me well but time to go AM5. I am going to get the 7700X though.

[@darkaiso]

This is just what I needed. I have a 5950x and was wondering how much performance i was losing out on compared to the new gen. Looks like i'm still good until maybe the 9950x atleast

[@seeeLAH1]

9950 is when u could start thinking if you want to upgrade.. 7950 placebo

[@anhiirr]

frankly im not SEROIUSLY considering "uppgrading" until win11, dx12u, vulkan, unreal6...other aspects like hardware acceleration etc become Even MORE mainstream...the FUTURE systems built around that VIABILITY will clearly be more "optimal" than trying to run a 7950x or 7900x3d etc... Id rather spend "then" on intel/amd...and a usb4 etc board. Not to mention what the POTENTIAL laptop market will be capable of by then as far as how those "laptops" down the road will handle CURRENT titles of "today" IJS. Once i hear good news on the developer end and API development progress...then ill know it will be time to start "researching" a new build/platform. Ultimately anyone in DIRE need of a "modern system" are stuck with their best/viable options as of "TODAY" though i dont shy from suggesting ppl to try to "AIM" for an on deal 8c laptop w ddr5, or an older gen/budget "power rig" vs something FLAGSIHP/new RN...unless their job/bottomline/take home pay is DEPENDENT on their system. Even as potential content creators....its better to place more emphasis/priorilty on GENUINELY making better content/your approach/process incremental improvements on your personal end...vs placing priority/expectations on your system/tech.

[@markotto1767]

great tests . thanks a lot !

[@anarsosoroo2891]

Wooooooo, been waiting

[@KartikJayaraman79]

Still rocking the 3950X. Was thinking about the 5950X but looks like the 7950X smokes it. However I do not like the extra wattage and heat. My PC is running 24x7 - doesn't Intel have more efficiency at idle speeds? Or should I get the 5950X?

[@blkspade23]

The wattage is the heat. It's a matter of whether or not you actually need 16 cores. The 5950X isn't actually meaningfully faster than the 3950X in all core workloads at stock. You can get the MT perf up with PBO for more watts. It's specifically more improved at single thread and gaming, which isn't the target use for it in the first place. That is load power consumption, but the differences of idle power would barely be meaningful. Needing 16 cores is either to have it under load regularly, or using the density for virtualization. The 12900K will still occasionally lose to the 5950X in MT (while using more power), and the e-cores are crap for virtualization. The 7950X pulls roughly the same wattage under load as the 12900K, but is 40% faster. For what the 5950X costs now it probably is some what of a sensible upgrade if you really just want more ST perf. If you need the cores for real work and would begin to consider switching to Intel then AM5 makes even more sense. If you don't need the cores and want better gaming performance the 5800X3D is the cheapest best solution since you're already on AM4.

[@KartikJayaraman79]

@@blkspade23 Thanks for the detailed explanation. I am not a gamer but heavy on Davinci Resolve, Lightroom and Photoshop in that order. 24x7 system running Plex server as well, for the family and nightly backups. My dilemma is whether to build a new system with the 12900K or just put in a 5950x or keep the 3950x

[@mwk1939]

Thank you jarrod I have a 3950x will start gaming at 4k when the new GPUs come out so no need to jump to 7950x.

[@chinoloc916]

5950 is on newegg for 380$, tempted to get it. I usually don't need the new and great stuff. I don't mind buying old stuff. My 3700 is still chugging along!

[@green_block]

Would be fun to watch how efficiency-conscious AMD fans would suddenly not care about power consumption anymore. 😂 Also the DDR5 and platform cost doesn’t matter anymore. 😂 😂

[@Ronaldo-se3ff]

The efficiency is ludicrous for the performance. Much much more efficient than the Intel 12000 series of processors. From what I have seen, 65W ECO mode provides about -10% of performance for much lower power. AMD is just pushing the chips to the edge it seems, partly due to the excellent clocks TSMC 4N process is achieving. Really impressive stuff.

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

@@Ronaldo-se3ff holy moly. If this is true, Intel is in big trouble.

[@sage4670]

@@Ronaldo-se3ff lmao every newish cpu does the same thing dude. Super high power draws create huge diminishing returns. Acting as if this is new for zen4 is ridiculous

[@JoeMama-yl1ow]

Damn best review for sure on the net comparing. I was thinking of upgrading to the 7700x or the 7950x hmm. Having a 5950x with 64 cl14 3600 and 3080ti and gen 4 drives after this it's like hmm. Bad thing is I do not utilize 5950x hardly at all a little warzone now and then but mostly Quake 2 on a neo g9. I would like to see some aida 64 of the 7950x read write copy and latency of the 7950x and 7700x, as on my 5950x latency best I can get 52ms also. I would like to see some tests of older games like quake 2 where there is a NVidia cap of 1000fps regardless and why! also look forward to see what 13th gen offers.

[@michaelschwader7944]

Dang. Close to my build. Team Force 64 GB 3600 cl14 ram, Ryzen 9 5950x, Sabrent Rocket 2TB gen4 but with a Sapphire Nitro+ 6900xt instead of a 3080ti. X570 Gigabyte Aorus Master, Cooler Master Storm Stryker, Noctua DH-15, LG UHD Blu-ray drive, Creative Soundblaster AE-9 with Burson V6 Classic Single and Burson V6 Vivid Dual op-amps, rounded out with a Corsair RM1000 PSU. Using a LG Ultragear 34GP83A-B monitor. I built mine for everything.

[@Winnetou17]

In the first slide, in the first minute, in the table comparing the 3 CPUs, unless I'm VERY mistaken, R9 5950X was not $550, but $800. Also, from what I know, the 4 initial Zen 3 CPUs were launched in Octomber/November 2020, not May. Wikipedia confirms it. Edit: ok, the pricing was cleared shortly after, it's the current pricing, not the release pricing.

[@bignicnrg3856]

Great video!! Love the comparison 👌

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! 👍

[@xKevmachinex]

3900x here, 7950x was close but not close enough, will see what the 8000 series offers in a few years.

[@Cirris]

The high temps thing just scares me off of going all in on a 7000 series chip right now. I'm almost doubling back to getting a 5000 series and a better GPU. currently on a 3000 series right now. The startup costs to upgrade for even the 7600 just doesn't seem worth it. You can get a good a good B550 board and 5700x for much cheaper. or spending an extra 150 and go 5800x3d for max gaming performance. The gaming uptick for the 7000 is lacking. yeah the overall boost in system apps is huge. But it doesn't give that much boost to overall gaming. at this point i'm thinking getting a 5000 on the cheap, and waiting for B650 boards and Vcache 7000 chips later on.

[@ArmchairMagpie]

As someone who plays on a 3950X (bought it back then because I used to do a lot of video rendering) at 4k resolution, this was quite insightful. However, I think removing CS:GO from the graphs leaves the 7950X even less of an upgrade at 4k. Generally spoken, at high settings, we are already aiming at being GPU-bound in general. I think only games where computing is more part of the game like Civilization VI, computing power really matters even at 4k. So, overall, when playing at 4k you could still skip this iteration of Zen all around until GPUs are no longer setting the upper bound, and that may take a while.

[@hardcorehardware361]

Yea I own a 3950x myself, 7950x would be a pretty decent upgrade especially for video rendering etc but those board prices are very high. Real test will come with the 4090.

[@hardcorehardware361]

Fast forward to now and the 4090 is GPU bound at 4k in some games. I upgraded to the 7950x but skipped the 4090, 7950x is an awesome processor.

[@brunoalmeida5293]

@@hardcorehardware361 hello bro. what is your video card? Is the 3950x still a good opportunity today? the price is very affordable for what I researched.

[@hardcorehardware361]

@@brunoalmeida5293 Hello Bro. RTX3090, the 3950x was holding my 3090 back a little at 1440p with a slight CPU bottleneck but games were playable but I wouldn't pair it with a 1080p monitor because the bottleneck would be quite apparent. 6800XT would be a good pairing with the 3950x or an RTX4070 if you're willing to spend the money but I would recommend a 6800 since depending on region would be great price to performance. Even a 6700XT or 6700 would be a great choice for the money. I still use my 3950x for Virtual Machines and for HTPC duties paired with an RTX3070 on a 4k TV, the CPU bottleneck is reduced significantly at 4k. 3950x is still a good processor and decently priced.

[@AntonelloM]

Great video thanks!!

[@CrafteG]

Good work - thanks!

[@michal.mateja]

Lovely video, thank you!

[@romeosahil1507]

Very good and briefly explained ♥️

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@YoloVib3s]

Honestly I’ve been rocking the 3950X since launch. I didn’t see a point in upgrading to the 5950X. Originally I planned to to get the 7950X but with all the early adoption issues. I’m gonna just keep my 3950X until 8 or 9 series.

[@anhiirr]

SMART ngl the ram pricing/board pricing is even IDEAL to someone that sourced their 3950x used. If gaming isnt a major PRIOIRITY or running a would be 500$+ gpu...theres not to much of a reason/emphasis on upgrading cpu/board platforms. Just paying the Supply/demand tax to be a beta tester IMO. For the "future products" where a smaller % actually RELIES/needs these upgrades in reality. Ppl can change their perspective and place more emphasis on PERSONAL skills....and skill application as a content creator/development. You can always figure out how to use what you got in a better way or improve your process/work in a more optimal manner that IMO is an invaluable skill regardless of how powerful your system is...and i think thats an important part of being and end-user vs an "early adopter"

[@Natsu_Macaron]

Warzone is a mystery for me, can’t gain fps what ever I upgrade

[@vivianvaldi7871]

Really great series on AMD JT.

[@dex2531]

What about the 5800X3D? That would be the best for older AM4 systems to have Ryzen 7000 series like performance.

[@JarrodsTech]

Don't have one and it's name doesn't end in 950x for the video 😎

[@mrwang420]

3950x on WarHammer 4K Killing it. Lol.

[@logo8009]

Thanks for all the hard work. Don't laugh but, my question is I would like to upgrade from a ICore i7-5820K build in 2016 to a AMD Ryzen 7 7700X and mother board only keeping my 2080ti I'll be keeping for a bit so,will I see a lager frame rate jump as the game I play is largely CPU bound ( iracing) I just not ready to buy the GPU yet till the dust settle after Q4.

[@magnus9316]

Why are amd 7000 series always compared to 5000 series and not 6000 series?

[@gmantoon]

Still rocking a 5800X would love a upgrade but new Graphics card needed first

[@mrwang420]

lol. The 3950X at 4K on Spider man is really the star of the line up. It stay true to about 100fps for some reason on all 3 resolution. The other two did their own things.

[@ralphreaidy1879]

Hii love your video btw, but something's wrong here the microsoft flight simulator results of the ryzen 9 5950X you showed in this video (~avg 87fps at 2k) are significantly lower than the result you showed when you compared the same cpu with the i9 12900k (~avg 110fps at 2k) wich is really odd because you used a 3090 in the old video and a 3090ti in this one

[@Chumeann]

With the way it looking im good to hold off on my 5950x. I have a 3080 w it and it still holds up so well

[@Kazya1988]

used 3950x + mobo + ram + customloop heatsink on CPU 400€ what a deal

[@sidvicious3129]

It is looking like for those that have a 5950x, you might want to rethink the upgrade based on the newer power and price that the 7950x holds. I think I will stay put.

[@seeeLAH1]

honestly i was happy with my 3800x for what i do...5950x is over kill... i think im done upgrading for awhile

[@kellyjr0918]

I'm still using a 12600k bought a pre-built during the pandemic cause it was the only way that made sense price wise to get a 3080 crazy times

[@JoeMama-yl1ow]

Understandable built my 5950 that way with 3080ti

[@walihamid4104]

These prices are all so similar I don’t know what to do

[@KapitanSpiryt]

Quite good testing job. How much time You spend doing it?

[@jeroen5736]

There are people reaching 30k with the 5950x . Would be more interested to compare that with the 7950x.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

As someone who built a 5950x system last year, there's literally no reason to upgrade other than wanting to have the latest and greatest. I still want to upgrade. I have one application (other than benchmarks) that loads my CPU beyond 30%. Power consumption - who cares. I live where most of the year is

[@nobody1322]

honestly if your gaming in native 4k than it does not really matter, intels 12th gen and amds zen 3 will be fine. I don’t thing many people building a gaming pc these days are going for 1080p.

[@i3looi2]

Yeah .. instead of going new, just go with an old (eventually used) 5950X which will drive the "dollar per frame" even lower than a brand new 7950X. Use the rest of the money on a better GPU.

[@iTzZigma]

Chillin with my 5950x GREAT VID BTW

[@wanhl2440]

Zen2 R7 3700X is as powerful as PS5/XSX. I don't see the need to upgrade at this generation. (Console has less cpu overhead, but the 3700x in PC max turbo clock is higher)

[@donaldnemesis393]

The 3950x is a very powerful beast, it's hard to imagine that the 5 years old cpu can able to beat the modern i7 13700

[@Zack-fu8sn]

Looking forward to a 3d cache update video

[@PatrykG99]

love my Ryzen 9 6900HX with Radeon 680M RDNA2 integrated graphics

[@Stockfish1511]

If you have any of the previous gen i would say no. If you have lower end from previous gen then yes. Either way you wont go wrong with 7950x

[@faris9327]

Since i game at 4k, i guess ill be holding onto mh 5950x for another 3 years

[@napalmarsch]

same here

[@SidorovichJr]

so, if you play in 4K only you dont need to worry about that upgrading cpu like ever now if you are packing 3080 or better :)