Be sure to report spam if you see it, its an ongoing issue. Let us know your thoughts in the comments - are you buying a new CPU this year? moving from Intel to AMD or upgrading? let us know. And if you missed yesterday's 9900X review, it's over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaTXnHWZj8l8nas
@SergejusOrlovasTrismegistos26 күн бұрын
Moving from Intel 14900K due to crashes but still undecided 7950X3D or 9950X as still asking me what is more important productivity or games :/
@byrondubois_za17 күн бұрын
Worth the jump from a 5900x?
@jamey-pl4ez21 күн бұрын
Leo flying the flag high for quality journalism and old school values
@Raul-id9gp23 күн бұрын
A lot of logic behind Leos thoughts - even if i cant always get to where he is, I admire the ethics and viewpoints
@evalangley398526 күн бұрын
I need to agree with you on this ones after digesting yesterday reviews from others. If you are not doing any rendering or compute over on Linux, then the price is not justified. If you remember well, AMD dropped their price on their x series mere weeks after the release of Zen 4 in 2022. We might see the pattern repeating itself.
@Francioslusi-kg6cx26 күн бұрын
Forgot about that !
@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz26 күн бұрын
Let us hope so. I wonder how long they will wait for the update on the 3D processors.
@Phaevryn26 күн бұрын
They don't really have any competition atm so it's less likely.
@PanchoGDMKWii26 күн бұрын
Its literally $50 cheaper than when the 7950X got released
@michaelangst607826 күн бұрын
I believe the 9000 series can run the RPCS3 emulator significantly better because of full AVX 512 support which the 7000 series didn't have, but someone has to confirm this with testing
@huxley377526 күн бұрын
7950X3D is dominating the power per watt by some distance - cant wait for the new 3D parts
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Us neither!
@huxley377518 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech
@weirdodude117326 күн бұрын
Thumbs up for on-point reviews!
@buyingastairwaytoheaven525226 күн бұрын
Well said 👌🏻
@spstatus91626 күн бұрын
Good content all week Leo and KG, thanks for the hard work! I am sticking with my 7800 for the time being - nothing has made me want to move yet, maybe the 9800X3D will!
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Thanks, appreciate it!
@DarwinBrookes-ss6on26 күн бұрын
Can I just put out a 'good job leo' here, after so much drama and trending nonsense to get hits, I have admired the content Level1Techs, Kitguru and Anandtech have put out. Good old values!
@Wyatt77523 күн бұрын
Leo - well done this week and bravo for not trying trend ‘tactics’ like some others
@user-ko2tk9gp7k26 күн бұрын
I am going to order a 9900X, thanks for the reviews, found them very mature and focused on the topics at hand
@hothardwareforthewin-he4fz26 күн бұрын
Good choice man
@TheDaveyd2926 күн бұрын
doing the same but i may wait for the next bios update
@mdqmusic926 күн бұрын
Leo thanks for all the work in recent weeks - good job all round !
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
No worries!
@mdqmusic918 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Right!
@Austin02326 күн бұрын
The curve optimiser is a great tool, They put some effort into creating those tools for the user which is excellent
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Agreed, it delivers great results here, much better than manual overclocking
@Austin02318 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Yes you are Right!
@RainbowSunset-uq2hs26 күн бұрын
9950x seems like a solid CPU, its a bit overpriced based on the 9900x which seems the sweet spot for performance
@JynxedKoma26 күн бұрын
About time someone stood in it's corner rather than slating it. Yes, we all know it's best in productivity, but that doesn't discount it's potential in games. LOTS of people still use 1440p, so not having almost 300fps as one would with something like the 7800x3D isn't going to be a massive loss (if any). You're still going to get over 100FPS in 4K games, so what's there to complain about? You're literally getting best of both worlds.
@gamingcomputers748526 күн бұрын
@@JynxedKomaexactly everyone should have the right to get a cpu that is good in both ofc not as fast as a x3d chip but still.
@PanchoGDMKWii26 күн бұрын
Its $50 cheaper than the 7950x on launch
@daj24626 күн бұрын
@JynxedKoma Thank you so much for recognizing the Zen 12core variants are very good balance/value. I still currently am a proud 3900X owner since it released and even though $ drops are inevitable, on launch imo the 9900X is *only* one that has decent $ for wat ur getting perf./value wise.
@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp26 күн бұрын
Thanks Leo for the coverage, enjoyed all the reviews - some level headed non drama based content - refreshing !
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@evalangley398526 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech HU and GN coverage made me go back to Anandtech.
@Simplyswish-xx6wr26 күн бұрын
Agree ❤❤
@LucyME-mo9rl26 күн бұрын
Will be interesting to see how intel responds.
@mehck-gk9yn25 күн бұрын
I'm more interested to see how their lawyers respond to the pending Class-Action lawsuit lurking
@pham338310 күн бұрын
dont know if ture,but moore law is dead said 15th gen is very delayed(technical issue),maybe until end of march 2025
@Ernest383426 күн бұрын
The 14900k still does well in the tests - I am very very interested to see what Intel do in the coming months with their new releases - its almost feeling like a last chance for them now
@mehck-gk9yn25 күн бұрын
Who is gonna buy Intel? I bought Intel for 20+ years and I'm not buying anything they sell ever again. So, who is gonna buy the new Intel chips if lifetime users refuse to buy?
@Ernest38345 күн бұрын
@@mehck-gk9yn Hmm!
@evalangley398526 күн бұрын
After HU and GN not missing an opportunity to trend on Zen 5 topics, it is refreshing to see an actual review.
@nathangamble12526 күн бұрын
HU and GN did make "an actual review" though.
@Berserkism26 күн бұрын
@nathangamble125 they made click bait "reaction face."
@harleylover944626 күн бұрын
It’s all such a snore now
@user-uv8qn1br8q26 күн бұрын
I’m surprised the click bait works still. A whole lot of sheep about.
@hothardwareforthewin-he4fz26 күн бұрын
Sometimes I want a simple analysis without being drilled into some great big conspiracy. It’s tiring.
@georgebrown297421 күн бұрын
hold on for 9800X3D! wont be long coming now
@jxblack3426 күн бұрын
£610 is not TOO bad really by todays market but its certainly a hefty price
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
I guess it's all relative - if you have an RTX 4090 it may not seem so bad!
@jxblack3425 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech I do have!
@sandraLopez901-h9g20 күн бұрын
So much click bait stuff, like linus doing ‘STOP INTELS dead’ and GN and HUB releasing so many videos just beating a dead horse the other way. Thanks Leo and thanks Wendell and thanks Anandtech
@stevenbryant844526 күн бұрын
Not sure that is worth the £150 premium over the 9900X as you say Leo
@bhangarebhangare458926 күн бұрын
I like leos reviews always on point and no Bsing around like a diva
@Eleanora57720 күн бұрын
Good content leo last 2 weeks, you must be shattered
@GAMER_kartik55126 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the work and efforts put into this, been a busy few weeks for everyone. Waiting for intel launches soon, then 3D processors. will wait as you advised yesterday
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Thanks appreciate it!
@BlaiseMiller1420 күн бұрын
AMD should be really happy with all the content - some really good reviews
@ryanrichardson728521 күн бұрын
Intel - waiting to see what they do, their processors are always great for gaming, even if they are unpopular now with some people
@freddieholmes558121 күн бұрын
9900x is the sweet spot so far, but none of these are giving you what the 3D range does - AMD need to update this range but will not do it too quickly to cannibalise sales - need to wait people !
@fletcher343123 күн бұрын
9900x is the one I like the most, has plenty of cores for a variety of tasks, and hits a decent price point. This 9950x feels like a cheap threadripper to me, which in itself might target an audience!
@DavidLeBon-qq9vr26 күн бұрын
7950X3D results in these graphs should be all people need to see to wait for new 3D parts coming soon. Zen 5 hasnt overly impressed me, but its not been terrible regardless of the gang mentality - the 9900x is a pretty good processor overall for all round use if you have a budget of £500. Leo when are you doing some new motherboard tests? id love to get some info on high bandwidth memory support
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
New boards aren't official yet but the rumour mill suggests it may even be next month
@jameskane627323 күн бұрын
16 core Zen 5 for £610 seems not bad to me, but I spend a lot of money on a new CPU every 2 years so I am probably the target market for this, the 9900X seems to be much cooler running however, so its tempting to upgrade my 12th Gen Intel now
@SahadebOda25 күн бұрын
Leo you have done a great job in the last two weeks creating all this content, some good reviews and details - without any dramas. thank you
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
Much appreciated!
@parker371521 күн бұрын
I love Zen 5, very good few weeks of reviews on selected channels like level 1techs and kitguru
@Wilfred481523 күн бұрын
9800X3D is the one I want, if its as good as the last one with more optimisations and new AMD software support
@oliverh192020 күн бұрын
Thanks Leo ! one to watch this weekend when I get the kids to sleep and the wife drunk and quiet
@Hudson23423 күн бұрын
The curve software looks like a great move forward for customers - takes all the hassle out of tuning the CPU for you. I wonder if people still tweak the CPU’s themselves, I stopped that years ago
@Blake84623 күн бұрын
Thanks Leo, great coverage and while I have not agreed with all of it from Kitguru, I respect your reviews and understand the points you are making
@KitGuruTech22 күн бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate that
@Blake84617 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
@samshawn488721 күн бұрын
Drama sells - nice to see some channels dont live on clickbait
@jamest48421 күн бұрын
Solid processor, but very expensive for what you get
@sblantipodi26 күн бұрын
always nice to see KitGuru review ;)
@nightcorepeter20 күн бұрын
Thanks Kitguru - keep flying the flag for UK !
@KitGuruTech20 күн бұрын
Always!
@nightcorepeter18 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Ya You are Right!
@riccardo928021 күн бұрын
This one looks hard to cool - 9900x would suit me more, but i want to see what intel do soon along with the AMD 3D chips
@Itsameamario-ns3se26 күн бұрын
I am sure Leo doesn’t get time to read comments but if you do. Just a thanks for the efforts. I use your reviews all the time for info. 🏆
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Alex-pc2gt21 күн бұрын
I prefer Intel to AMD, always haev. always will. AMD never last long. Intel and Nvidia, hard combo to beat
@ShaighJosephson15 сағат бұрын
Even after half of intel's CPUs started crashing and needed to be "patched"... Hate to break it to you, but AMD has much better architecture over intel... Truth hurts .. lol...
@luckylukas350623 күн бұрын
Great test. First with Curve Optimizer that I've seen. Thanks. My 9950X is tommorow here🎉 I use it to work.
@dwarvengamesmith972620 күн бұрын
Looking for a new build to replace my aging 3900x but definitely waiting to see what the 9 series 3d chips have to offer
@Nelson-gv1mc25 күн бұрын
The Core to Core latency stuff is interesting - didnt Apple have a similar issue with the M2 Ultra over the M2 max?
@CatherineMitchell-br8dx26 күн бұрын
I dont think ive ever bought something without checking if you guys have reviewed it first, keep the videos going 🤩
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
We will!
@ThomasKlyhnChristensen22 күн бұрын
it's interesting you are the first person to show the 9950x stock as my experience, also getting around the same score in CB23 at stock / auto but all the reviews seems to claim it getting 44.000, and 2300 in CB24, which for some reason mine just fails at, its running slower than my old 7950x and I have no idea why. everything looks fine, good temps, bios and so on, nothing looks wrong but it just doesn't perform as many reviews claim
@sanvi718325 күн бұрын
I think as a threadripper alliterative on a budget this might tick some boxes for people. I dont know.
@scarletartem598726 күн бұрын
That curve optimiser is just magic.
@mehck-gk9yn25 күн бұрын
Swapping that Z790 Gigabyte board out for another mfg to retest would have been the icing on the cake. Still great job though.
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
Thanks, we can always aim for next time, it was just very tough with four CPU launches in a week!
@Linuxdistro15-ih8ox26 күн бұрын
Thanks Leo for definitive window’s reviews and Wendell for Linux.
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Pleasure
@sselim26 күн бұрын
No clickbait... clear review
@billy924523 күн бұрын
I like liked the reviews here at at Level1Tech - old school tech reviewers just cutting through the clickbait thumbs, shocked faces and nonsense
@KitGuruTech23 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@billy924517 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
@Paradigmfusion2 күн бұрын
Im sticking with my 7950x3d right now, its still the king as far as the Ryzens go.
@Mkchotamastan302Mastan26 күн бұрын
The power per watt graph was interesting, the 7950 does really well in that test
@rotemlv26 күн бұрын
Thankfully I have no issue waiting a long time, so the price is not that bothersome. It is very good news indeed to see efficiency *gains* from overclocking here. I only hope the 3D equivalent won't reach a $1000 tag.
@domenico756123 күн бұрын
Ryzen 7 i quite liked contrary to the cult following from HUB and GN - but thats just me I guess !
@ShaighJosephson15 сағат бұрын
I'm specifically waiting for the 9950X3D... Rumor has it that it will be released pretty soon... No way in hell will I go with Intel after 50% of their CPUs started crashing and needed to be "patched"... AMD has the better architecture, but the intel fan boys would rather die than admit it... 🤣
@Edward00126 күн бұрын
These CPUs are great, I dont care what some people say - people just love to whinge now
@mehck-gk9yn25 күн бұрын
They're not as good as they should be is the issue. They should completely stomp 14th gen and they don't. They beat it, but they don't stomp. That being said, I bet they'll last longer than 6 months unlike my 13900k.
@antoniocepaj754426 күн бұрын
With these prices in mind ( tax included), what would you pick for gaming, and casual 3D modeling ? 9950X = 800€, 7950X = 620€, 9900X = 560€, 7900X = 430€. I planned to have single 34"inch QHD IPS 1440p monitor, 64GB ram, and possibly pair with 4070, or 4080 GPU. ❤
@michaelangst607826 күн бұрын
None.. either wait for future CPU'S that actually offer good improvements, or go with a 7000 series CPU at a great price
@lucasw476621 күн бұрын
I wouldnt touch this one myself, 9900x makes more sense to me.
@PaulRoneClarke26 күн бұрын
What is amazing is that for gaming the 9600X is an absolute monster. Beating out newer chips with more cores. I had one for a while (gave it to my daughter) and it got to 6.02 Ghz under load with temps around the mid 70's I might wait for the X3d or the inevitable price cuts and code updates. The last gen had price cuts 8 weeks after launch.
@JamesYoung2422 күн бұрын
Thanks for giving me more information than I can absorb.
@Andrew-ks7zj23 күн бұрын
I like old school coverage like Kitguru and Anandtech - i am not a fan of the drama based stuff from GN and HUB
@KitGuruTech23 күн бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed our review
@Andrew-ks7zj17 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
@nadtz26 күн бұрын
Considering TR prices I think there will be a decent audience who want/need as many fast cores as they can get but don't want to spend Threadripper money if they don't need the PCIE lanes. 9900X does seem to be the sweet spot until X3D chips launch for most though.
@RobertWilliams776-c9k20 күн бұрын
KZbin comments - full of absolute nonsense from fanboys on both sides. some good videos though, just ignoring the comments
@puffnstuff1223 күн бұрын
I'll hang on to my z790 13900k rig a little longer and see if we get a 9950x3d version with dual ccd stacking next year.
@PoonamGupta-ux4ew25 күн бұрын
I might try linux myself after seeing wendells latest video on this - thanks Leo and wendell for the good reviews without nonsense and clickbait garbage. I wish youtube wouldnt promote that crap
@kusumayogi795624 күн бұрын
The real winner in cpu race is arm with apple m4 as champion It has 27 percent single core improvement over m3 and beat all arm and x86 CPU in single core score!!!
@luckylukas350623 күн бұрын
But loose in Multicore 🤷♂️
@SimonBennett-fw6zq26 күн бұрын
I was hoping for a more significant architectual change with Zen5 but the efficiency improvements are still impressive!!
@iamahappybunny764026 күн бұрын
Excellent ! Good coverage Leo last few weeks thanks 👍🏻
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
No problem 👍
@EvaMorris3718-g2z26 күн бұрын
Great end to a work day seeing a kitguru video! 😁
@CatherineMitchell-br8dx26 күн бұрын
Agreed !!
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
🍺
@joemarconi837524 күн бұрын
Worth looking again at AMD after this iterative improvement.
@Matori-fc7gf26 күн бұрын
Cant imagine running this overclocked when curve optimiser is available
@rufusmctavish116426 күн бұрын
Really good stuff thanks Leo
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@maximilianRodriguez791725 күн бұрын
You reckon people who want threadripper but cant afford one would be interested in this ?
@KitGuruTech24 күн бұрын
Yeah possibly, I guess it's the next best thing if you have a lot of computational work to get through
@maximilianRodriguez791717 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Oh Okay!
@benimadhv388825 күн бұрын
I like this CPU, its a good option if you want a threadripper but dont want to pay all the extra money. 16 cores is good
@stevenanderson320526 күн бұрын
2 generations old the 5800X3D is still doing very well.
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Great cpu 👍🏻
@sarikajori893426 күн бұрын
Thanks leo, you must be sick looking at graphs at this stage, I know I am lol
@zanashiakallis730726 күн бұрын
Looks like they are on to a winner with this platform.
@seoesale881424 күн бұрын
Glad these dont run so hot. Wont have to spend a fortune on cooling for these.
@amigatommy726 күн бұрын
I am behind on cpus since they are moving so fast. I'll take a5950x for the backup machine and a 9950x for the main machine. Have solar at the house so power draw is not high on my list. Good thing these things don't cause weight gain..
@PCPro201726 күн бұрын
AMD's focus on power efficiency is a refreshing change, especially after intel's recent issues with over volting.
@abaj00625 күн бұрын
Going with the 9950X, as you mentioned, its much cheaper than a Threadripper, and already faster than the low end Threadripper CPUs. Just because its not the fastest gaming CPU in the world, does not make it useless for gaming (some KZbin reviewers are painting it that way).
@tehehe592924 күн бұрын
Threadripper's main advantage is amount of PCIe lanes compared to what's available to AM5
@ZaPirate26 күн бұрын
ordered my 9950x today. will see how that goes.
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Keep us posted 👍🏻
@IcaniCorrono25 күн бұрын
After seeing this review I really impressed about the 5950x (that I would change too) 130W of pure efficiency, nice to see AMD moving back to efficiency again, sad to see that strange performance. I really think that something is weird and probably we will see a performance uplift soon. Probably not huge, but at least to put it above the previous 7950X in any scenanario as should be. That said, grat review as always, point out the bad of it but without riding the horse of blaming/hate for more views ❤
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts !
@memewalabaccha93425 күн бұрын
This one is a bit pricey for what you get, I agree. the Ryzen 7 is good value, 7000 series is better on todays market but I like the 9700x as well
@Guna_Shanmugapriya25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review and content lately, i am awaiting for Intels next range of cpus to see what they aer going to do next
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
More to come!
@blackmennewstyle26 күн бұрын
My daily driver for programming/compiling/gaming is also a Ryzen 9 3950X ☺
@tyleroy908 күн бұрын
The video is very detailed but I didn't understand one thing. The question of consumption and temperatures. The 7xxx generation (not 3d) had obvious issues with temperatures. Whatever heatsink you put on they were always at 95 degrees. How do these behave? If one wanted to make a workstation (particularly for blenders) how should one dissipate it and what should one expect? Above all, would it be manageable with air? Maybe with a peerless assassin?
@MalTon-ip9us26 күн бұрын
Great amount of detail thanks for this.
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@weston170126 күн бұрын
AMD really need to push memory bandwidth - not useful for gamers really, but people buying these processors should really not be gamers as such anyway
@Kapono515026 күн бұрын
At least this channel still assumes X870E will bring improvements. Everyone else says X870E won’t make a difference as USB 4 is the only difference
@KitGuruTech26 күн бұрын
Can’t really comment until we test them. 👍🏻
@bloodcarver91326 күн бұрын
The memory controller is IN the CPU itself so why should it be better?
@Kapono515025 күн бұрын
@Dr_b_ how did you confirm this when the board aren’t out yet ?
@muaathe7816 күн бұрын
It's pretty good; such a professional and honest review
@Daniel-zl9im26 күн бұрын
9900x seems the 9 sweet spot. its sub £500, runs about 5-6c cooler and will be fine for most people
@GregM26 күн бұрын
Buying a new CPU in the coming months and going AMD rather than Intel due to their 13th and 14th gen fiasco. Due to budget constraints and non-gaming will be probably going with 7700x. I certainly can not afford $500 to $700 CAD +12% taxes for 9700x - 9900x. The poor gaming performance may be a Windows11 Adminstrator account issue per HUB video but that does not affect me
@Writing_tech26 күн бұрын
14900k was the one I wanted, but I hear intel are releasing a new range of CPUs soon. might hang fire till end of the year and make do with my old 11th gen system
@gillbahona26 күн бұрын
This is a hefty beast in need of a big a$$ cooler - at least you used a good 360mm AIO
@PriyanshiRaut25 күн бұрын
I almost dropped the money for this, but think its best waiting for 3D processors to hit soon
@KitGuruTech25 күн бұрын
Yup we agree, especially for gamers!
@luckylukas350623 күн бұрын
@@KitGuruTechMostly for gamers. For work non3D are better in many cases.