AMD’s RX 9070 XT is Ridiculous - RDNA 4 Leak

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[@adrianomart]

not the full leak, skip

[@ilbro7874]

Maybe not, but you wont be paying the full price for a windows 10 key from his sponsor...cdkeys discount code whateverthefuck

[@bravocortez4087]

Real mvp thanks.,

[@pim433]

Great saved me 10 minutes of my life

Skipped and thumbs down the video. Thanks

[@AverageLarryGaming]

What if this person was just lying ? 😭🤦‍♂️

[@infinity2z3r07]

these planted gpu "leaks" are only intended to see how we react and how much Nvidia/AMD can get away with

[@nab-v1w]

Yes. Its like when stores offers you money if you find a cheaper product somewhere else, you doinh their market study for few bucks. Often things are leaked by parteners because they do ot for the companies.

[@googIesux]

True of politics as well. A lot of testing and then prodding.

[@Nick-jf7ku]

How do you know its "planted" can you show me please. otherwise your just a stupid ass making shit up. that being said i think making this video was really dumb based on what he had. ts just a rant

[@nickt6595]

Nvidia Overprices all their GPUs, exploiting gamers. The same can be said with AMD. But it all starts with the majority market share, Nvidia. If they actually price their GPUs in a fair manner, AMD would also be forced to Not Overpriced it's GPUs.

[@ovemalmstrom7428]

2025 - the year of the Arc

[@muaddib7356]

I agree! If Intel can come out with a B770/780/790 in Q1 of 2025, and keep it maxed out at $399, with 90% performance in framerate to a 7900XT, Intel will sweep the floor with AMD!!

[@ShreddedWheat305]

Us old timers remember the failure of the intel i740 back in 1998....gonna take awhile for Intel to be in the game till us old timers trust intel for gpus.

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

AMD never misses a chance to miss a chance. Classic AMD marketing They just changed the name to jack up prices and deliver even worse value.

[@haukikannel]

AMD increase prices if and when Nvdia increase prices! And all leaks seems to show that Nvdia does increase prices… so who is really surpriced that also AMD increase prices? NVIDIA is pure monopoly. All the other has to follow it`s prising!

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Sadly that's what they did last time as well. But then I don't get why they would even bother to release new cards or complain about their poor market share. If they wanted to change, pull a Ryzen move and be crazy aggressive with margins. E.g. release the 7800 XT at 399, 7700 XT at 299 and 7600 XT at 199 where they rightfully belong. I don't think they strictly have to follow Nvidia pricing scheme they just do it, because they got no intentions for being a real option.

[@tonydalimata]

AMD is dang good at shooting themselves in the dik . They don't ever miss that target.

[@CHT1992]

@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 7800 XT at 399? You must be stupid, that pricing only makes sense when they release the 9070. 6800 was 580 bucks MSRP and XT variant was 650 bucks, 7800XT at 499 is more than fair, it competes with the 4070, which comes in at 599. 6800XT was competing with rtx 3080 back then, which came at 699. 6800XT, 7800XT, 3080, 4070, all 4 of these are in the same performance range, difference is generation technology improvements. 399 is for the 7700XT, the 50 bucks difference between that GPU and 7800XT is too small to justify buying 7700XT. Then we have 7900 GRE at 550 bucks, 50 bucks more expensive than the 7800XT, these 50 bucks are less valuable than jumping from 7700XT to 7800XT. This makes 7800XT the GOAT card from AMD this generation. The GRE is the second goat card from AMD, everything else is garbage. 7900XT came out too expensive. XTX samething. XT price should have been XTX price at launch, and then the XT should have been 50 to 100 bucks cheaper. So 900 bucks for XTX and 800 or 850 for XT. So all AMD has to do is to aim for 7800XT or 7900GRE performance, it is the sweet spot for most gamers willing to put in some cash but not excessively into an upgrade. This is why the 9070XT has great potential to be an amazing product, it all depends on the pricing really. Since it matches the GRE in raster and has much better RT overall (better than the XTX it seems), then the pricing needs to be either 400 bucks or 550 bucks. While the older cards crash down in value as they get replaced, making them even better last second deals. If they price the 9070 XT at 550, then its easy for them to drop down value on GRE and 7800XT, if they were to make the card 450, then the GRE would suffer a massive drop and the 7800XT would have to drop even further now making it even better for the consumer. This is why they made a 9070 and a 9070 XT, the twitter leak stated price range to be 450 and 650 for both of these cards, the 9070 is meant to replace the 7800XT and the 9070 XT is meant to replace the GRE, same raster performance but improved technology (RT, FSR 4 and the likes). So the 9070 is most likely going to cost 450 or 500. The XT variant will cost 500 or 550. I don't think they will go for 599+ as it would be too risky. The final pricing will be impacted by who releases first, nvidia or AMD. Nvidia, if they release the 5070 at 599, then it will instantly crush anything AMD has to offer in a perspective of price to performance at over 500 bucks. Now that i think about it, this might be another reason why the 8800XT was canned, as releasing it at 499 again might have been bad for AMD in all ways possible (ruins 7900 xt and xtx and too cheap to make a profit from). I don't think the 8800XT would keep up with the 5070, if we take a look at the specs on the 7800xt, they cut down some stuff from the previous gen equivalent, probably to reduce costs and make it more attractive to consumers. This is why the 6800XT has similar performance to the 7800XT but the new one is much cheaper. AMD is literally f'ed here. I think nvidia will copy paste the 5070 in terms of pricing again, this will force AMD into a corner and sell the GPUs at a much lower price point. If nvidia drops the value by 50 bucks on the 5070, AMD ceases to exist. If nvidia drops it by 100 bucks, then they are literally dancing on AMD's grave at that point and not giving a damn. I feel like AMD will come out first with the cards, and they will overprice them, then nvidia comes out with their stuff and AMD is forced to drop the value. This is how i see it happening. In the end AMD will not sell sh*t because they are too stupid to understand the market they are trying to conquer. Intel on the other hand seems to understand, but they only do so because they are sitting right next to their own grave, so one wrong move and they are royally f'ed. This is probably why intel canned the b700 variants, as they were more expensive to build and the final result was "meh" for the current market, since we have the 7800XT and 7900 GRE, which are already aggressively priced to try and conquer consumers.

[@veilmontTV]

@haukikannel they have lower market share than any point ever. Maybe trying to milk their fan base isn't a good move. Amd is losing current and future sales trying to act like nvidia. Intel can take their spot.

[@walter1824]

$650 would only be acceptable if it offered 7900XTX/4080 super performance

[@niyazzmoithu20]

With excellent raytracing and efficiency.

[@AverageLarryGaming]

@@niyazzmoithu20 if it offered $1000 card performance at $650?!? 🤦‍♂️😭😭 You can go ahead and wake up now.

[@bmqww223]

so are you high? it should be like rtx 4090 or above for that asking price since it has no propreitory technology like rayrecontsruction rtx gi , di , pathtracing sdk , etc etc

[@joksanen]

@@bmqww223 People will never stop surprising me with their lack of knowledge

[@veilmontTV]

@bmqww223 amd is behind a lot more than amd fanboys like to pretend. Rtx hdr is a feature i use every day. Dlss is better at antialiasing than taa. Raytracing can be turned on and it doesn't destroy the card.

[@Zuggeerr]

What happend to the 8800xt with 4080 performance ?!

[@Fluskar]

Gone. Reduced to atoms.

[@ilbro7874]

These are leaks. 50/50 theyre valid

[@michaels9917]

That was the card we deserved

[@Spazzfrom.1989]

@@ilbro7874 didnt the 88 and 86 get seen in some program thingy

[@BigAndTattooed]

Was never going happen. 4080 is considered high-end. Amd said no high-end

[@dzibanart8521]

$399 or less and it sells like hotcakes.

[@ultrademigod]

It wont be less. The large difference is them feeling out the market to see what they can charge, so it will probably be around $450

[@Gamer-q7v]

AMD said they want to gain a considerable amount of market share with RDNA 4. They proceed to copy the bad things from Nvidia. Radeon needs a new marketing team ASAP. The current Radeon marketing team is a fucking joke. If AMD is really aiming to gain market share and deliver excellent price to performance, their highest-end Navi 48 GPU needs to at least match Navi 31 in raster performance and AD103 in RT performance for $400-$500. Any performance below that and a price above $500, then AMD has gone delusional.

[@robczar7479]

Not just that, but why change the naming convention to copy Nvidia? AMD's best cpu's go 5800,7800,9800....why not keep the GPUs at 6800,7800,8800,9800? It matches it's own branding......why change? How does that happen?

[@sinenomine4540]

Their cards have been shit with the exception of the 7900XTX.

[@neavo8421]

I think the reason they did it is because they already have a CPU lineup with the 9x00 nomenclature. So if youre looking to buy a 9700X/T youd run into problems deciding whether you needed a CPU or the GPU. So you could have a computer with a Ryzen 7 9700X using a graphics card thats an RX 9700 - this is an issue that will convolute the talking points for youtube reviews. So it would be better to have a Ryzen 9700 with a Ryzen 9070 - that way it keeps the conversation cleaner and more succinct. That said, AMD already has a 9000 series graphics cards - they bought out ATi Which had a Radeon 9700 Pro - and that card was a banger. So they might wanna avoid this nomenclature for a multitude of reasons.

[@robertmyers6488]

Your prices are absurd.

[@CM0G]

A 64CU AMD matching a 76SM Nvidia card in performance..... and than I woke up! They should wish for ARC to close so they can hire ARC marketing team... they are the real masters. If Intel can afford to sell a 270mm2 gpu at 250$, AMD can for sure afford to sell a ~300mm2 at 399$. I have some hope that can happen since they talked about wanting to get market share, plus the fact that they calling this 9070 instead of 9080 that suggest lower MSRP. I hope the price leak is BS and AMD finally does the right thing.

[@Fr00stee]

watch this be 100% a test "leak" by amd to see what consumer's reactions will be to the new naming scheme and price

[@gavinferguson2938]

Honestly wouldnt put it past them, id rather they 'test the waters' so to speak. Rather, I *hope* thats whats going on because I want to root for AMD here, they are underdogs after all and Nvidia has cornered the market leaving prices as high as they want. I know they said they dont want to compete with flagship cards, but man I was hoping for an RDNA 4 XTX card. That 1k-1.2k price:preformance was attractive to me as it struck a good balance between VRAM for longetivity sake and rasterized preformance for contemporary gaming preformance at 1440p-4K. Id have gladly bought one if not for the fact that new GPUs are around the corner and most 7900XTX cards are bought of the market resulting in much higher prices (where I live atleast).

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

Well in that case if AMD is reading this F*** this “9070” noise, nothing wrong with it being the 8800XT or 8700XT. For real though I think there’s a nontrivial chance what’s actually going on is Nvidia has threatened to sue if AMD uses “8800” in anything because the 8800GT was one of Nvidia’s greatest generations almost 20 years ago. It was the 1080ti of the time except bigger. So taking “8070” and “9070” in particular would be a good way to stick it back to Nvidia as they’ll have to change their naming schemes in future generations. This might even end up being a negotiating point to prod Nvidia to quit acting like a bunch of little b****es about a product name apparently no one even remembers anymore.

[@atavusable]

I don't think that's a test leak. I'm fine with them rebranding but the peroformance & pricing is wrong. As for nvidia "cornering the market" just remenber that any time AMD did almost get nvidia, nvidia reduces price and people shit on AMD again. We have seen this rodeo again & again.

[@Fr00stee]

@@atavusable nvidia is not reducing prices anymore they will just jack them up bc they know idiots will buy them for the brand

[@peter2liter]

Let's call the 9070XT what it is, an 800 class card. Anything over $499 and it is DOA.

[@juniorbarra8296]

At this point is better to go for a 7900xt....

[@robertmyers6488]

Absolutely. Fantastic overclocking, 20GB, and works great with high bandwidth monitors. There are only three cards that make any sense over $600 and they all have over 16GBs.

[@YouTubeAccount-i4m]

Bought mine two months ago used for $550 cash and have no regrets.

[@SuperArchangel3000]

Bought mine today for $595 new from microcenter

[@robertmyers6488]

@SuperArchangel3000 Cool. Check out Ancient Gameplays video on how to OC it. What brand?

[@B_Machine]

We'll see. We won't really know the performance of the new generation until ces or later.

[@StevilKinevil]

Ive been an ATI/AMD fanboy since the 9800 pro came out and still own every flagship card since the 370. If they produce a worse card for more money it will be hard to stay loyal. Thats the kind of shit Nvidia does that made me try other brands.

[@cjpartridge]

Stop giving loyalty to corporations, always buy the best value for the dollars you have, pretty simple.

[@StevilKinevil]

@cjpartridge I'll do as I please with my money and would never disrespect someone else enough to think I could tell them how to spend their money.

[@cjpartridge]

@@StevilKinevil pipe down

[@StevilKinevil]

@@cjpartridge No thanks.

[@kevinmccrea1335]

What happened to fixing last gen's hardware bug?? That fix alone was supposed to improve performance on this current gen coming out. Very confusing at this time

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Has nothing to do with RDNA4. That was RDNA3.5 and all the drivers changes. There are at least three channels that have retested XTX and XT between now and 2022 and there's a decent boost in performance in old games and newer games. Sadly, RDNA3.5 is only on APU/mobile. RDNA4 has a slightly different arch that should not have the main issue (issues were not only due to the chiplet approach BTW).

[@exactom6320]

we've been saying for years about Radeon: "AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity"

[@muaddib7356]

If the 9070XT is more than $449 at launch, it will be DOA!!

[@Accuaro]

I like what Intel is doing with naming, it's alphabetical defining the generation, then numerical to delineate the model. AMD is just all over the place, including their CPUs. Went from 1, 2, 3000 to jumping a thousand to 5000. Mobile parts? May as well be a random number/letter generator obfuscating products to confuse potential customers. What are they called now? Ryzen AI 300 series Pro Max ?? Must be illegal for AMD to have consistent naming/branding.

[@Ignisan_66]

RX 7900 XTX still being the most powerful Radeon is quite sad.

[@t-birdmr.t7980]

Damnit Andy! This video card won't cut it

[@dirkjewitt5037]

AMD said it wasn't going to compete in the high end this time around. They did the same thing with RDNA 1. The 5700xt was the highest they went back then. If the 9070xt reaches near a 7900xt for $450, that would be a banger. $650 is way too much.

[@lilclm64]

Imagine how stupid I feel putting off my build for 4 months just to get amds next flagship card. I stupidly though they would match the 5070ti or 5080. If this leak is real just know a grown man is crying.

[@AhmadAli-kv2ho]

The 5070ti would be 4080 level

[@lilclm64]

@AhmadAli-kv2ho really wanted to go amd but guess I'll fight for a 5080 on release

[@AhmadAli-kv2ho]

@@lilclm64 choose nvidia if you have software that depends on the cuda ecosystem.if you dont,and just have it for gaming just get a 4080.scalpers,buisnesses and proffesionals are going to buy up 95% of 90/80 class gpus,youll have a hard time getting one unless you preorder a prebuilt

[@lilclm64]

@AhmadAli-kv2ho going to be at microcenter day of release. If not I'll go that route

[@AhmadAli-kv2ho]

@lilclm64 wish there was a microcenter in the uk here

[@GeoStreber]

I might end up buying a 9070XT afterall, because I'm switching to Linux and nVidia's drivers are still suboptimal. If the price of the 9070XT is right, that is.

[@zyygis]

650$ for mid-range card is pure madness.

[@B_Machine]

Well it's a third of the price of high end now😭

[@selohcin]

If the RX 9070 XT is a dime over $500, it'll completely fail. If you have AMD stock, I recommend selling.

[@muaddib7356]

TOTALLY AGREE!

[@LastExile1989]

Welp looks like my 6800xt is going to serve me a few more years.

[@Zamsky39]

There is zero reasons to get 9070 if it's more expensive and less performance than 7900xt

[@atnfn]

6:10 it does make sense, there was a reason they cancelled the 7900GRE. I mean how would they manage to sell any 9070XTs with it around lol. These companies are such jerks.

[@Kapono5150]

So 50 series will be the only cards with GDDR7. I’m curious to see if that makes a difference

[@TrollFace877]

I have a feeling that AMD is gonna go for $499 for the 9070 XT, anything higher would be suicidal.

[@muaddib7356]

Even at that price, 50% of new buyers will hold off for a seasonal sale to get that down to $449.

[@tontsar91]

If AMD was smart they would do that, but even then many would be more interested in the non-XT version.

[@safespaceinvader]

Ugh, the GPU market is so outrageous anymore. I was lucky and jumped on a RX 7900xtx hellhound for $650 and $690 on the amazon used market for two builds this last few years and that was hard for me to do. I jumped from Nvidia and I'm really happy with the performance when matching with the 7800x3d, but the prices are just whack. The new Nvidia 5080's are going to be $1,000+ again, my gawd, what are we doing here

[@awitcher5303]

Wouldnt be surprised if 5080 is 1500 since amd wont have any equivalent

[@safespaceinvader]

@@awitcher5303 Yep, I see that happening myself. Love my RX 7900xtx, great raster performance, can game on a ultrawide or in 5k at high frames. Not a ray tracing fan, on any card, just hits the performance too hard an I'd rather have high frames. Ray tracing is cool and all, but I find myself just looking around looking for ray tracing reflections rather than playing the game, lol.

[@veilmontTV]

Tbh nvidias rtx hdr is too good to ever consider amd. Not to mention dlss looks way better than fsr.

[@awitcher5303]

@@safespaceinvader I feel the same way, unless ray tracing becomes far more efficient it doesnt really make sense now when you can have a far higher framerate over a slightly prettier game.

[@safespaceinvader]

@@veilmontTV Not sure HDR comes into play too much, that mostly comes down to the quality of your monitor, say I have a samsung G9 Oled, great HDR performance compared to most. I never use upscaling techniques, FSR and DLSS, even when I had all my other Nvidia cards. I went with a RX 7900xtx to save a few bucks and to have the ability to game in 4kish range at high frames without upscaling tech.

[@oswaldjh]

The chart showed the 4070 TI Super just out performing the RX 9070 XT and the Nvidia card is $800 USD. So how is $450 out of line? They could even get away with $650 on release and reduce it later as per their modus operandi. Not a fanboy, just looking at the numbers.

[@alanslicegarcia5066]

NVidia will release new cards for maybe the same price. So we could get the performance of the 4070 TI Super for 4070 Super price. About 600 to 650. Aka, If AMD releases this at 600 or 650. It's DOA. If RDNA 4 was meant to grow market share. At that cost, having little to no performance gains, it'll be better to just scrap RDNA 4. Just like they did with big Navi.

[@neavo8421]

@@alanslicegarcia5066 When has Nvidia ever released cards at the same price? I used to buy the top tier cards for 750$ - now theyre entry level card is a 400$ part - and to get one of their 4090s is 2400$ on amazon right now. I dont even think about buying their top tier cards anymore.

[@robertmyers6488]

Those charts are full of it on the 7900XT. AMD is at fault for putting the voltage too high, but XT in particular is a fantastic overclocker when the voltage is lowered. On older systems it bests the 4080. Paying that much for 12 GBs is truly retarded.

[@robertmyers6488]

No they won't. Nvidia is a cult like Apple and they know the tards will pay what they are told to pay.

[@gavinferguson2938]

​@@alanslicegarcia5066Meh, idk man it looks like the 5070 will be 700-800 and the 5080 will be over 1000 minimum. Considering that both the 40 series and 7000 series are no longer in production (and the fact that many are no longer available) the 4070ti Super will lower in price to around 600-650 which will make it competetive with the 9070 and 7900GRE. At that price point whatever stock is left will be bought up immediatly leaving most consumers shit out of luck with their next best option being the 7900GRE. And since the GRE wont have FSR4 or 'better RT preformance' the pricing will come down, once more resulting in a lack of availability since the GRE has also stopped production. Within a few months the 9070xt will be all thats left for mid range priced options until the next generation. Most gamers are refusing to shill out 800 on a mid range card that will run out of VRAM in 3 years time, so by going AMD they are hoping for longetivity in extra VRAM and in 4K capable rasterized preformance. Sure, RT, DLSS, and RTX HDR are gone, but compared to high framerates at 4K those features mean very little as they exist mostly as a crutch to help Nvidia customers feel better about spending 800+ on gimped overpriced cards. (Dont get me wrong, those features are great but at the end of the day the most important part of a card is its rasterized preformance, no point in pushing RT if everythings on low settings, no point in using DLSS if your upscaling on 1080p, no point in using Frame gen if you can hit a stable 60.)

[@1Wiseman001]

There are no 7900gre's for less than MSRP right now, and they're getting harder to find at all. There's only one model available on Amazon.

[@chy.0190]

Thats because AMD stopped producing them, look it up. They are releasing this new gpu for close to 600 dollars for sure.

[@atnfn]

@@chy.0190 Yup, they can't sell 600 dollar 7900GREs (called 7090XT) if there are still those pesky original 7900GREs around costing more than 100 dollars less. AMD is just more of a joke each generation. And nGreedia gets just greedier every generation.

[@pantsgaming759]

the biggest advantage amd had was having enough vram but if they release the 9070xt with only 16gb of vram then amd just lost there only reason to go amd

[@JCDentonCZ]

399 is honestly still too much, these should be priced like the RX480 - but taking into account inflation and other costs, 300 USD is the maximum these should cost. Feels more and more like AMD's graphical division just exists to keep NVIDIA from getting sued for being a monopoly - plus, keeping other potential competitors out by holding onto their licenses and patents.

[@bes12000]

Yeah I saw the leak, performance around GRE levels is insulting and it would explain why AMD's stopped making the GRE, the RT doesn't even beat a 7900XTX.. for the price.

[@dauntae24]

We have ray tracing at home

[@mgking777]

Let's just hope that these leaks are not complete or inaccurate and they surprise us at CES. They really have to.

[@estacaotech]

If AMD does this and releases a new generation where the new top tier card is at best a 7900XT for almost the same price of a 7900GRE then Intel has enough chance to gain a lot of market share since they will be the new budget GPU king, it will be perfect for them to release their B770 and B780 or other models after this release. Even NVIDIA can be worried if this actually happens.

[@tontsar91]

Honestly B770 cant come soon enough. Kind of tired of Radeons but not as much as GeForce.

[@FafthriechRalofson]

If the leaks are true worst case scenario I get 13% better performance than my 7800xt I bought for $500 but the new card costs $650. At that price Radeon is dead in the water. Write it off and ignore the products. Best case scenario I get 13% better performance for the same price. At that point it is just a "well that isn't worth buying". I'm feeling like Intel cards might end up being the only thing worth buying.

[@Met1900]

If Intel decides to put out a b770 for 399 they are in trouble. I hope they do.

[@muaddib7356]

I'm with you! If Intel is 'market savvy', they will bring out a B770/780/790 at $399/$419/$429 and put the hurt on AMD.

[@tontsar91]

If B580 wasnt successful enough, B770 is definitely going to be. Man that card cant come out soon enough.

[@tontsar91]

Intel also has to make sure their cards will actually be available (high stock).

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

brother, i know your the "always joyous leak" guy but we kept telling you AMD is gonna keep screwing it up

[@reng.5934]

Waiting for Intel to come out with the B750 and B770... if the B580 is got everyone riled up, I'm hoping the next cards break the GPU market.

[@nickt6595]

For regular computing needs, sure but for PC gaming, Intel is far behind at least 5+ years in performance, stability, drivers etc., but the more competition the better. Maybe just maybe Intel can knock some sense into Nvidia & AMD constantly overpricing their GPUs.

[@estacaotech]

@@nickt6595 You are exaggerating or didn't watch B580 comparisons, the B580 delivers better performance than RX 7600 and 4060 while also having 12GB instead of 8GB, it leagues ahead of AMD in terms of RT and at 1440p its almost a 4060Ti in performance while being just 249$, intel XESS is better than FSR too, if it was 5+y in performance then it would be worse than something like the 5700XT or 3060 but its not.. the only problem now is supporting old games below DX11 but their drivers are getting better every month. Intel has a lot of potential this generation since B580 was successful.

[@Augusto9588]

They can't even supply the 580, let alone do another release

[@ugo_king_8218]

i seriously got a genuine question. would the tech of RDNA 4 come to the 7800xt as well or is a new feature coming only onto the new series of AMD GPU's ?

[@bohomazdesign725]

This is not me wanting to buy a card for cheap (I need NVidia for Blender), but I really do believe that the 9070 should be $380 and the 9070 XT $420. Yes even a price of $450 doesnt make sense for the 9070 XT since it will be the same performance as the 7900 GRE. It has to be cheaper or it wont be a generational uplift in terms of the price to performance ratio. lol wrote my comment before I watched the entire video. Turns out our we share common sense :P

[@robertmyers6488]

AMD must go broke. Why?

[@Silver-h4m]

​@@robertmyers6488 They shouldn't go broke (sell GPUs at a loss), but the pricing needs to be appealing if they're serious about gaining market share. They should release this GPU(s) with a thin profit margin to entice gamers away from Nvidia. Make their offerings too good to pass up, then they might have a chance at being relevant again (they've already gone from 20% market share down to 13%, they can't afford for that trend to continue)

[@UNr34]

If he wants 80% marketshare it should be 350$ AND have huge improvements in RT and upscaling.

[@mickaelsflow6774]

If we want a dead Radeon division, sure.

[@zperdek]

And now Nvidia knows that they can price their "equivalent" to +50%.

[@michaels9917]

AMD has lost their mind. Good news is this probably means the rtx 5070 will be $50 more and have better software and support

[@danburke6568]

5070 will be more. AMD is not having good pressure. If this leak is true.

[@Integroabysal]

It looks like minus another 6% market share to me :D

[@HopefulGam3r]

There is no chance that amd is going to put a 200 usd dollar difference between 9070 xt and 9070, if the 9070 lands at 449 I would expect the 9070 xt will be priced at 549, which is still to high but that would be amd for you

[@Silver-h4m]

9070 @429, and 9070XT @499 might be alright if the performance is closer to/matches a 7900XT

[@tontsar91]

I am much more interested in the non-XT version of 9070 as I am sure many others. It could be rather interesting when it comes to price/performance.

[@Silver-h4m]

@@tontsar91 Indeed. The 9070 non-XT would interest me if it can roughly match a 7900GRE, consume ~220W, at a reasonable price. Edit: 16gb VRAM is a must as well

[@raven80wolfx2]

I dont mind Amd switching the name scheme from 700 to 70. It's not a big deal. It's all about price, and I dont listen to these leaks. So many times you told us price with be x and it ends being z. Turning me off the product because it costs more and offers less than the leaks. Made me not buy 3080ti and instead bought 7900xtx that is still amazing to this day.

[@OrlandoCaba]

It really isn't.. lol. Amd had 6970, 7970 and skipped the 8000/9000 to the 290x. If anything Nvidia copied Amd's naming scheme. KZbinrs make a big deal about nothing and everyone else just repeats what they say :< I'm not a fan of the name but I'm also not going to buy a card that is entry level.

[@raven80wolfx2]

@OrlandoCaba Amd issue is the keep changing names to see what works. They haven't been able to take market share. Hell, they can't even get features to work all the time between drivers. I love amf2, but it always breaks. Anti lag plus was amazing for single-player games they refuse to bring it back. Because anti lag 2 is only put in certain games. It was so much better as a driver feature combo with amf.

[@ThreaT650]

An AMD representative literally came out discussing their strategy for pricing after talking about how they were going to change everything about the way they market. What did he say? He said that they would release high and drop as necessary. Literally the same thing they always do. These people are not worth their paychecks man. I mean truly, this is like listening to political analysts in their respective parties. Totally out of touch and can't separate themselves from marketing logic. This is not a garage sale where you start high so you have more room to bargain, this is a massive consumer GPU market. These people are so out of touch that they can't even relate to the logic of their own consumers any more. They'd rather flop an entire release all the way down the stack, rather than potentially lose some money on an MSRP they 'could' have possible successfully sold at that was higher. It's delusional. 'I could have gotten 45 dollars more out of that MSRP if I started high and worked my way down', meanwhile all your good reviews and value analysis in the media and among reviewers, never get to happen. In fact, they will get awful reviews, and none of us will ever take a second look at that GPU the same as we would have if it came out at a reasonable price. Let these rich elites price themselves out of the market, stop buying this utter crap. IT IS CRAP! Nvidia even releasing the 4060 and 4060 Ti that barely beat it's predecessor 3 years later. They tried to sell a 4070 Ti as a 1000 dollar '4080' after already cutting all these dies across the board in the first place. STOP BUYING THIS JUNK! You are throwing your money away for nothing. They aren't good products. Be adults and have some damn consumer solidarity. I'll game on my GTX 1070 with FSR turned up to the highest latency you could imagine before I ever buy this trash at the price they want to sell it for.

[@santeenl]

You always said that rdna3 would be like 2x, well here we are and the next clickbait titles are going strong. I dunno dude

[@freedomearthmoon1]

No surprises here, AMD said their striving be #2 in the GPU market, when you think like losers, YOU ARE LOSERS!

[@utopic1312]

even when AMD competed in the high end market people still bought nvidia

[@chy.0190]

@@utopic1312 most people do not own high end gpus. Hes obviously talking about market share.

[@utopic1312]

@@chy.0190 we could go by mid range and even lower end GPUs and nothing really changes people still buy Nvidia, it's just people slightly more AMD cards when compared to the high end

[@freedomearthmoon1]

@@utopic1312 It about the quality off the products, if AMD made better high end GPUs than Nvidia, they would sell

[@Augusto9588]

They're striving to the #3 now

[@Kovka1]

9070xt newer leaks have -5% performance then 4080 super. But if u overclock it from 260 watt too 330 Watt u will have more power then 4080s

[@mickybottoms4170]

Since when is a new card supposed to be equal to or better than the last gen card 2 tiers up? That is like expecting a 5070 to be a 4090 at a 5070 price point

[@xDangerDoomx]

Could it be in Australian dollars? I know they use the same $ sign as the U.S. does. I'm hoping it is

[@catmeow11111]

AMD has a history of doing this and I don't see any indication that they will change. They will release at a high price, get bad reviews and people will instead go for Intel or Nvidia, AMD will then panic and drop prices, but by then, no one will care because they already fumbled the launch, and AMD will then lose further market share. Seriously, this has been AMD's game plan for the last 10 years and it's no surprise that they will completely stuff up this launch too.

[@dalamar5502]

Ill wait for them to put out an announcement because they are known for surprises when they launch and this all could be a smoke screen for what really is coming after the 5000 series comes out

[@mikebruzzone9570]

So, Conner which would you prefer? 1st degree pricing that starts high systematically adjusted down by channel sellers to find the right price balancing supply and demand on the buyer's choice at what price point to purchase? Or 3rd degree pricing that is the 'run end' regulating 'low price cap' that is end buyer unobtainable or very limited available price as no end seller will lose their as selling a card for a run end MSRP at producer's ramp before run end clearance? You know the type of price everyone blames on the so said scalpers, there is no such thing as a scalper, inflating a 3rd degree run end priced card on the few units pulled ahead in the supply schedule to set that run end price. 9070XT so said price range $649 ramp down to $349 past peak rundown works on the TRTC model. So said 9070 at $349 down to $179 is invented or a lower bin SKU and there is no way to offer RDNA 4 desktop dGPU bottom bin at $179 card places the kit to the AIB priced < cost. So, 9070_ is 4080 performance or the 9080_ isn't being talked about on some divergence that may be destructive inter market competitive or some form of corporate spiel? mb

[@davefroman4700]

If they give me a desktop APU with the new 890M graphics? I would be happier than a pig in slop to start upgrading. I don't need a full GPU for the stuff I do. Minecraft and Factorio will play on any multi core potato. Heck I'd probably settle for one with the 780M graphics for that matter. I want a new m-itx system. The 5700G I have is pretty good but it won't do anything fancy. The 780M will handle shaders in Minecraft and still give you 100+FPS

[@KraszuPolis]

The results were so bad that he had to censor them.

[@chy.0190]

Kinda funny AMD said they wanted market share. A 7900 GRE costs around 550 now, and thats only because AMD stopped production of it a week or two ago. Before that it was available for 480. They need to price this new card lower than 400, if their aim really is to gain market share.

[@Carlton_Banks]

AMD never loses a chance to lose chances, they`ll as usual fumble up the price, 3rd party reviews will come out swinging, AMD then will panic discount the cards, but the damage will be already done, and NVIDIA will capitalize on that.

[@vishnushaji1168]

actually latest information from twitter says it's 5% slower than rtx 4080

[@ultrademigod]

No way will it be $650. This is what I would call fishing. My guess is it will be around $450, the same price as 7700xt on release.

[@imglidinhere]

I've heard some rumblings post-leak stating that was done without any kind of boost/was early testing, so... here's to hoping.

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

The only thing that will be insulting is a high price. It all comes down to the price and availability. If they release a graphics card that's around 7900 XT for a very cheap price then it'll win by default if the rumors of nvidia's prices or anything to go by. People will buy the AMD card just because they can actually afford it and AMD will do quite well.

[@_MoRZiLLo50]

Merry Xmas bro!

[@Paelmoon]

This is probably why they have EOL'd the GRE - so their is no stock of it. Can't be bad value if their is nothing to compare it to.

[@stephenn504]

Are you the display guy? You sound and look just like him from the little I’ve seen in his videos.

[@debashisraykarmakar836]

This is letters of Stone "AMD Never Learns"

[@jamesbartlett4477]

Kind of curious if this is gonna be better than the 7900xtx. Hope amd kicks there own butts so they come out with something that's at least similar in Performance to the 5080. I just got the 7900xtx because it performed similarly enough to the 4080 super. Now the "Next Generation" card isn't even better then the 4000 series from the competition? Why would i buy last gen cards? That seems dumb. It's like buying a ps4 while the ps5 is out...why?

[@moozoo2589]

AMD will put at least $500 price tag on 9070. Don't forget they also have 9060, 9050 and 9040, the latter will cost no less than $250-300, so do the math.

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

This is probably true because everyone knows that Nvidia is planning on going to the stratosphere with prices ready to use tariffs and a suite of gimmick AI features as the ad hoc justification for that increase. There’s a reason that they are discontinuing the old cards to funnel everyone into this purchase with Intel cards, being lower and Nvidia cards costing more.

[@allxtend4005]

the best part is when peoples other choice is to buy a 4070ti super for around 950$ with the same Performance, so here we have AMD charging 600$ for the same performance, and people cry that it cost too much ? You know what cost too much ? The Nvidia cards itself, and in my country the B580 cost around 320 Euro this is the same price as a Rx 6750xt.

[@space.raider.2271]

Intel should consider making an overbuilt Battlemage that runs circles around all Radeon cards.

[@Augusto9588]

They can't even do a proper B580 launch, let alone release something else to compete in the high mid tier

[@jorgefernando9306]

Amd doesn't loose the opportunity to loose an opportunity

[@GrantLylick]

We are being played people. Why would AMD not come out with a great GPU after seeing what the 7900xtx could do? And then Nvidia only really having the 5090, the most expensive card, being the only valid great performance card. We are being played.

[@lanelesic]

If the cheapest nvidia card with 16GB of vram is 5070ti at $900, and the 5070 12GB is around $700 why would AMD sell a 9070xt at $500. You got only yourself and other nvidia cultists and tech illiterates to blame for the state of the market.

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

Maybe because they're currently selling their 7800 xt for as low as $430. The 9070xt will be competing with the 5070 which is probably going to go for $600 so i expect this gpu to be around $500 tbh.

[@chy.0190]

Thats exactly why they should sell it at less than 500 lmao. Also this is not even true, nowhere is it mentioned the 5070ti will be 900. 4080 was 1200 and its sales were poor. Would be a stupid idea.

[@hellhoun89]

The problem with this kind of thinking is that, pushing the envelope creates innovation And excitement for the customer. If you stay on midrange hoping for that illusive market share you will die in midrange. I’ll give you a big example Nokia Phones

[@nickt6595]

If the rx 9070xt with performance between the 7900gre and 7900xt, and for a $450usd price tag, that would sell like Hot Cakes. Any price above $450usd and they will NOT sell IMO. Hopefully AMD doesn't mess up this much needed launch.

[@RGMUFC1]

I believe that price is correct but performance leak is fake.

[@eagle20g]

What would your guess be up against a 4080, lower performance?

[@Serandi1987]

Without a 4k@240Hz OLED TV with at least 55 inches there's simply no reason to me to upgrade from a 5800X3D to a 9800X3D and from a 4090 to a 5090😭😤

[@axeltroja9390]

if they charge a higher price, without delivering more performance and just mit FSR you get more FPS, then I don't see any reason to upgrade. But it should not be so difficult to get better more performance. TSMC smaller nm manufacturing process and GDDR7 should at least gain 10-15 percent increase.

[@williamlaprarie3007]

People don't care about msr, its what they sell at the gre didnt sell at all until the price dropped. Every youtube character keeps talking about launch prices but cards don't sell until they are reasonable.

[@oopsydaisy4637]

Looks more like a rebadge of a 7900gre to a 9070xt to me, while pulling Nvidia's trick of increasing the price to the next tier up

[@Daniel-hj5jt]

We go through this BS with every single launch....is this the final silicon, or a ES? Are the drivers done? The Vbios? We don't know, because the thing hasn't even had it's paper launch yet. Availability is still likely a month, or more away. Add to that, are those benchmarks from a reference model? Cause those are only going to be 260w....while partner cards will be 330w....on top of all the other factors. Every launch we have this endless cycle of speculation, and it always ends the same way....either your pessimism is unfounded and it drives people to ignore the actual product launch, or people wildly overestimate what the product will accomplish, and the reality leaves people disappointed and disinterested. "AMD's next card is going to be a MCM with 192 CUs, and pull 6-700w and only be $1000! THAT'S DOUBLE THE 7900XTX with better ray tracing AND GDRR7! NVIDIA IS FINISHED!" oh wait...no...actually they're going to focus on the 80% of the market instead of the high end..... "they're only doing midrange cards next gen, and it's gonna be 4080 level performance for $400! And....and! THe first 10,000 cards sold will come with a nymphonid coke connection that owns a ferrari dealership! WE'RE ALL GONNA BE SAVED!" "oh know, the midrange card is going to be priced as a mid range card....while nvidia is going to jack up their prices even more. I don't like this guesswork, so i hope its wrong!" We're a week away from everything being showcased....just...stop it.

[@bmqww223]

its funny how navi 44 asking price , its more ridiculous than the top end die, imagine even buying a 96 bit bus card for 180 dollar where you can buy arc a580 8gb vram for 170 dollars or at the time of announcement you can grab a 180 bit bus card 10gb vram card at 220 dollars.....i am very happy for intel at this point, intel cards need to sell this gen and xess techbase should be mtured and proliferated to the mass users to smooth the launch of celestial launch , and there will be proper compettion btwn nvidia , amd and intel next gen....intel should pay amd for the free promotion they did for their battlemage cards....

[@vuduchildx]

Before black Friday, XFX RX7900xtx went on sale on Amazon for $440. Lasted minutes. I picked up a Phantom rx7900xt for $500 on sale before black Friday. I will not be buying a GPU in 2025. 6 computers in my house. 1 Nvidia card. And it will be swapped out with a spare rx6750xt I have if it has issues. (It's a 3060ti). I'm disappointed in the computer market.

[@oz5150]

Wait until home boy sees Vex video about the 5080 being 1800-2300… lol. And dude is stressing over 400-600..

[@carisi2k11]

It won't help AMD one bit naming them 9070 instead of 9700 or 8700. If you price a product higher then it's value it won't sell.

[@ryanchappell5962]

Their profits are way higher on data center products. So it does make sense to make products for gamers that they don’t want to buy when you consider they have limited capacity with TSMC. Nvidia is in the same boat basically since they use TSMC as well. Intel is also using TSMC but they don’t have compelling data center products so they may actually want to sell gamers something good. Just please understand these aren’t actual bad business decisions, they do make sense if you understand what actually makes them money. EPYC and MI300 series.

[@ShopoPower]

I am confused about the naming of the new AMD GPUs, they should keep the old

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

If the pricing in your video is correct, AMD needs to rethink strategy. The last couple of generations they’ve released cards at a higher price then had to reduce them later. Perhaps they’d lose money but if they take a cue from Intel they might do better to offer a better deal to gain market share and get some positive reviews early on to get sales. Personally I just went for a 7900 xtx that was a good deal. AMD does need to get ray tracing right, but they need to do with the gpu division what they did with socket AM5.

[@RyanPerry-e7v]

Sticking to my 7900XTX/7800X3D build from the beginning of the year i built. SO much better than my 5700g 6700xt. I'm definitely not upgrading for a while until I want to try team green but even then idk if it'll be worth to try and or possible if I can even get my hands on a 4090 a couple years down the road... if I'm lucky (probably not)

[@zacharyhockett6248]

There's really gonna be no option to get above 16gb of Vram unless going with the 5090 huh?

[@k.23_02]

@@zacharyhockett6248 7900 XT and 7900 XTX exists too

[@Twordelius]

650 dollars for 9070XT... I mean lol. This GPU should never cost more than 600 dollars at Launch! Offers performance between 7900GRE and 7900XT with improved Raytracing... but at what level compared to nGreedia??? This is pure bollockz... and insanity. What is the overall TDP 260W??? For 650 dollars we should rather get something that exceeds 7900XT rough performance LMAO.

[@harveybirdmannequin]

AMD can either price the cards competitively and take a medium loss or price them like they always do and take a 100% loss. The alternative of not releasing will taint the Radeon brand forever. People are just going to buy Intel at the low end and Nvidia at the high end. Radeon is toast.

[@MasterOfNone88]

Good...I still got my eyes on a 7900XTX.....so let the prices drop !!!!