AMD Threadripper 2990WX Overclocking Guide - ASUS Zenith Extreme (en)

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der8auer

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@TheYamiks
@TheYamiks 4 жыл бұрын
Now of course you are using the Asus board, but me , having an MSI board (the creation with 2950x) such thing as "performance mode" is not there..soo it seems I have to use the ryzen master if I want to give the XFR more juice. Still will see how things pan out on my thing, thanks for info!
@mmaster23
@mmaster23 6 жыл бұрын
Der8auer again showing the bench results before the actual embargo is lifted.. I love it!
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
pssssst :)
@Chrinik
@Chrinik 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't sign an NDA, you can't break Embargoes XD Also, the memory controller on the 2990WX isn't bad, the problem is that only half the cores are connected to memory, the other half have to go through the infinity fabric first, then through the other cores, and THEN access the memory. That isn't a controller issue, that's a "we don't have Octo-channel memory." issue. The proof that this isn't a controller issue, is that in memory critical tasks, the 2950X is faster, which uses the same controller, but only uses the dies are connected directly to the memory so no latency issues. The 2990WX comes with a 1/2 and 1/4 mode, the half mode basically puts it on par with the 2950X in memory critical applications by deactivating the extra dies. This all prooves that it's simply latency induced by going through the infinity fabric...otherwise the 2990WX would always be slower in memory critical tasks, if it's controller was defective. This was probably a restriction placed on maintaining compatibility with TR-4 sockets and Quad-channel memory, which is still the standard in HEDT platforms.
@SpenReyn
@SpenReyn 6 жыл бұрын
embargo lifted on the 13th so he's safe, even with no NDA
@pnp072000
@pnp072000 6 жыл бұрын
@Tadas Nanartonis What's wrong with the Vega iGPU?
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 6 жыл бұрын
Now I can run 8x Handbrake compressions at once! But realisticly, this will dominate Xeons in fluid simulations, no more waiting 12-24 hours for a Xeon to run airflow over a flat plate (shaped like a delta wing) to then have it crash halfway through... This thing will blaze past most workstations, even throwing the $10,000 Xeon in the mud and dragging it up a hill to the finish line. TR2 is a powerhouse monster! It's really cheap for what it is, plus with it's top dog performance without the premium price makes this look very nice.
@SpenReyn
@SpenReyn 6 жыл бұрын
PC World did a run in their coverage where they encoded the same video file to 4 different formats simultaneously, it finished faster than a single encoding did, really crazy!
@martin93landp
@martin93landp 6 жыл бұрын
I read: 8x Harambe compressions... God what did the internet do to me :'-S
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 6 жыл бұрын
Finally got my 2990WX today and, with a little soldering to make a 4-pin mobo power connector, and two BIOS updates, got the thing up and running! As a unix user of course the test I cared about the most was a concurrent compile, and I must say XMP'ing the memory definitely made a big difference. A huge difference actually. I ran a simple concurrent compile loop locked to each cpu thread. At stock the system pulled 270W at the wall and my timing test took roughly 90 seconds. But I got a curious result when I overclocked the cpu. Using the Performance Enhancer I allowed the machine to suck up to 500W or so (again verified at the wall), but my concurrent compile test only gained 3 seconds. I did check the CPU frequencies. During the stock test all cores were stable at around 3.4GHz, and during the O.C. test all cores were stable in the 3.9GHz to 4.0GHz range. What I think happened was that the machine had become capped by the memory performance due to the type of workload I used as a test.... so much so that overclocking didn't actually help. In my case, I cobbled together memory from other machines for the test so I had a mix of 3000Mhz and 2666Mhz (4 sticks of each, for 64GB total), and XMP'd it from 2133 to 2666. Given my results my focus will be to get faster memory for this beast... and it is a beast. I was able to run the same test on two other beefy machines, a dual-socket Xeon E5-2620v4 and an old quad-socket opteron (4 x 6168) w/12-core CPUs (48 cores total). With this particular test, the Threadripper was 50% faster than the Xeon box (eating 200W) and also 50% faster than the quad-socket Opteron (eating 1000W). The threadripper has 4 memory channels while the dual-socket Xeon has 12 across both cores, and the quad-socket Opteron has... more memory channels than I can count :-). The 2990WX is an impressive beast being able to beat the hell out of those other two machines with only 4 memory channels. -Matt
@waltershan
@waltershan 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of power supply were you using?
@theyehsohz
@theyehsohz 6 жыл бұрын
Those that complain about power consumption! AMD's FX 9550 draws the same amount for literally... nothing. Now factoring in the actual performance per watt.. holy shit, this processor is a monster!
@Fakeman
@Fakeman 6 жыл бұрын
whenever a derbauer video is uploaded it's a good day
@fractalmind6971
@fractalmind6971 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man! I am planning to get myself new rig running on 2990WX soon. Actually I already bought RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws V 3000MGz CL15. Do you think I should get similar (or almost the same) results with my RAMs which are a bit slower than yours??
@ThePhilbox
@ThePhilbox 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I wish there was more info about thermals and cooling.. so is the Nuctua-14 enough to run it at 3.8 safely???
@tonifasth
@tonifasth 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done and very well explained. Makes me a bit sad that the memory controller is somewhat limiting the CPU. Threadripper seems to love fast RAM. Maybe next gen. TR will improve this even further. ;-) Nevertheless, that's one beast of a workstation CPU.
@juhopetrell1878
@juhopetrell1878 6 жыл бұрын
Do some exotic cooling on this chip and OC the hell out of it. (open loop, chiller, ln2 or something else) Great video!
@ReubenHorner
@ReubenHorner 6 жыл бұрын
Juho Petrell Hopefully no cold bugs (probably are tho)
@andljoy
@andljoy 6 жыл бұрын
Ok so i am getting the 16 core , this has sold me on the asus. I will just set it to level 3 , undervolt it and cool the hell out of it and leave everything else stock. All i need now is some uncle wendles discount ECC ram that will run at 3200Mhz and i am golden ! The asus does support ECC right ?
@thedoc2994
@thedoc2994 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Joy The Zenith supports 2133MHz ECC memory. What’s the purpose of overclocking ECC modules? 3200MHz seems improbable. It might be possible, though, if you were to watercool them, EK has a great catalogue for RAM cooling.
@syth-1
@syth-1 6 жыл бұрын
The Thugger wait what?? Ecc memory doesn't increase temperature output that much you know from a normal 3200mhz set of ram. Although the memory controller may need cooling on the mobo that's about it. The op's comment is related to how Wendell from level1tech said he may release some modules using Samsung b-die to hit those speeds but with an extra module which is what gives it it's ecc name (of course the extra module will be used exclusively for error checking - which adds some latency which is why you want high clock speed and low cas latency). Plus an off the shelf heatsink will more than suffice for those modules.
@Quinteger
@Quinteger 6 жыл бұрын
better get the MSI x399 creation, it's very generous with its power delivery system
@Ledmaster2
@Ledmaster2 6 жыл бұрын
Just run the 2950X is the msi board. Better VRM
@coot33
@coot33 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you water cool because big air cooler blocks the first pci-e slot on the asus.
@rubenraya8506
@rubenraya8506 6 жыл бұрын
Hi der8auer, do you think the kraken x62 280 is good enough for the 2990wx? I’m not going to oc. Thanks for your time. :)
@St1ngerGuy
@St1ngerGuy 6 жыл бұрын
Would 4ghz on all cores be doable with a decent water cooling setup? I'm getting ready to build my rig this weekend. Been Intel for 20 years, but I render all the time and this thing is just amazing for that purpose. Great vid, I'm sure it will help me a lot!
@olealgoritme6774
@olealgoritme6774 5 жыл бұрын
Is the video about overclocking at a beginner level, or more like advertising Asus' bios update?. Where are your videos of what frequencies really can be achieved on the 2990wx? Waiting eagerly 😁👍
@theWanderer521
@theWanderer521 6 жыл бұрын
this would be a great upgrade, if budget allows lol, for a 3D workstation
@Zarcondeegrissom
@Zarcondeegrissom 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, agreed. That or EPYC, tho TR(1 or 2) is a tad more affordable.
@BGraves
@BGraves 6 жыл бұрын
"3d workstation?" What kinda 3d?
@michaelgibbs6989
@michaelgibbs6989 6 жыл бұрын
Great for rendering and simulating. Modelling and animating is lightly threaded so you’re better with fewer cores, higher clocks.
@MrMilanina
@MrMilanina 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, if I understood it well this combo should be great for Davinci 15, correct? Given the power consumption during the OC should 1000W considered to be a safe bet when it goes about the PSU? Also, there is 32GB G.Skill Flare X DDR4 3200MHz PC4-25600 for AMD Ryzen which I planned on buying together with the above MBO and CPU combo. Is the RAM thing a commercial trick or this really is the "optimal" RAM for AMD CPU? Thanks and cheers!!!
@ThomasKlyhnChristensen
@ThomasKlyhnChristensen 5 жыл бұрын
@der8auer So confused here, 2990wx running 3000mhz 64gb kit, so not quite 3200mhz but when I only do the level 3 change in bios (also running zenith extreme) I only get around 5000 in cinebench. if I force all 32 cores to 3.9 I get 6000, so it's capable, but I am wondering if its because of power? if setting a manual power limit would be better? it feels quite low using the auto solutions, also on L3 I can see it only boosts all 32cores to about 3500mhz, not the 3750mhz you expected and seemed to get ? any ideas to why that might be would be much appreciated. thanks
@Cactuspractice12
@Cactuspractice12 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone is saying that 1st gen x399 boards are not advisable to OC the 2990WX on, however The Farmer has chosen a gen 1 board for this vid - i suppose it could have been just before the release of the second gen boards(?) I know this is an old thread Der8auer, but would you now advise not using 1st gen boards? Gen 1 boards are cheaper the those new ones...just wondering if it would be cool to still use them?
@MervTeo
@MervTeo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roman for this awesome guide, my application is mostly for 3D rendering, don't have to go into game mode and reboot every time I want to game for a few minutes. Thanks for putting this out for everyone
@vh9network
@vh9network 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to make sense of 3:20. So in real world use then these voltages shown here are all too low then?
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a full tutorial on overclocking with this board on amd 1950x? Like the ram settings explaining them all and all the cpu settings and what best.
@ADR69
@ADR69 6 жыл бұрын
At what point is it just more economical to spin up an Amazon instance when you need to render something? I feel like the ROI on this setup would never pan out considering how fast tech changes.
@JCB0017
@JCB0017 6 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a separate guide for the 2950x as well or will the method here be suitable for the 16c/32t chip?
@Multimeter1
@Multimeter1 6 жыл бұрын
4.8Ghz 7700K just did a delid yesterday after using thermal paste under the IHS MX-4 Thermal paste doesn’t belong under an IHS at all. Went 30C cooler after some thermal grizzly liquid metal. I think I’ll sit on this for sometime
@ghfhgfuuu
@ghfhgfuuu 6 жыл бұрын
Abraham that's one of my rigs : ) Good chip
@skyhawk21
@skyhawk21 6 жыл бұрын
Your a little too late, 8700k delidded and overclocked smokes 7700k and 9700k out soon...
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 6 жыл бұрын
Why should you have to delid in the first place if it was soldiered to the silicon from the factory? That's right, Intel trying to produce the cheapest part they can make, and price gouge the consumer for maximum profits, that's why.
@ghfhgfuuu
@ghfhgfuuu 6 жыл бұрын
Batojiri1 delid is fun. Beneficial too. You never HAVE to..
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 6 жыл бұрын
Delid is an operation that shouldn't have to exist. If the manufacturer wasn't trying to con their consumers out of money.
@dominicwong7569
@dominicwong7569 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, saving me a lot of time waiting for Unreal compiles!
@WackyPaJJu
@WackyPaJJu 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have Asus X-399a mother board with TR 1920X.. so performance enhancer will work for this as well. I want to overclock it to 4.1 but keep failing .
@MickiDracing
@MickiDracing 5 жыл бұрын
You said 3600mhz on the ram was too much for the threadripper and you lowered it to 3200mhz. Could you explain that? I'm running 3600mhz ram speed on my x470 2700x combo, is that going to cause me any issues?
@Vladek16
@Vladek16 6 жыл бұрын
I can see that you don't have the SOC heatsink and the Vcore VRM fan, are the VRM ok on the zenith extreme under 32core oc :o ? What are the temps ?
@maxhughes5687
@maxhughes5687 6 жыл бұрын
I can't afford a 2990wx. But I did wonder if the ZEN 2 next year at half the power draw of the Threadripper 1st/2nd gen cpu would work as a good team with the Zenith Extreme. I have a Zenith, a heatkiller (still saving for the rad/pump) and a 1900X just to get the PCIe lanes and I/O. It's about 45 bucks to add the Watercool VRM heatsink block (plus tubes and fittings).
@harbirsingh7266
@harbirsingh7266 6 жыл бұрын
Waiting for you to create the world record on Threadripper 2990WX with LN2 cooling.
@heyguyslolGAMING
@heyguyslolGAMING 6 жыл бұрын
Tyvm for the guide... I just ordered my 1st TR a 2950x paired with the Asus Strix board. Would this guide translate well for OC my new system?
@kharistyayefta6615
@kharistyayefta6615 6 жыл бұрын
I have just watched an overclocking video, reach 8k cinebench, LN2 5.4 ghz and the power is 850w.... Really curious how much power if u push more... Is there any difference or not...
@peterjansen4826
@peterjansen4826 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a question, der8auer. How do you explain the lesser scaling for Cinebench when the clock frequency gets closer to 4.0 GHz.? My theory: maybe Cinebench finally needs a higher memory bandwidth than that those four memory channels can deliver for 32 cores? It seems to me that 3.7 GHz. is a nice sweetspot for this CPU, clocking it higher doesn't deliver that much more while drawing a lot more electrical power.
@michaelgibbs6989
@michaelgibbs6989 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Der8aur! Would what you did with Performance Enhancer work on a 1950X or is that only for 2nd gen Ryzen? I have a zenith extreme and 1950X and want to give this a go.
@ammaralammouri1270
@ammaralammouri1270 5 жыл бұрын
thanks, are you gonna make part 2 for this video with the CPU water cooler OR it does not matter for overclocking .
@TECH3_
@TECH3_ 6 жыл бұрын
Are this the results of the air cooler ??? And what the temp are like ???
@iLLusiveManCS
@iLLusiveManCS 6 жыл бұрын
Does 3600Mhz (RAM) work on the current bios ? The only supported kits on zenith are the Corsair LpX and these are quite pricey... Would it be more worth it to get 3200 kits ?
@ajc-th5ei
@ajc-th5ei 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for this. I wanted to mention, though, that with the BIOS/UEFI updates for the new TR2 CPUs, the behavior you saw with higher speeds of regressing performance also occurred on the TR1 parts, or at least my 1950X. I found the solution was lowering the tFAW significantly (in the 16-24 range depending on speed and other timings), playing with the tRFC a bit, and general tweaking for stability. Before these upgraded UEFI's, I was 3600 stable with 14-17-17-17-34-48 with a tFAW of 24 and 288 on tRFC. Afterwords, 3600 was not stable, fully, with my timings, and what I got stable was giving 3340s in CB15, when I previously was getting 3545-3575 with 4.05GHz and 3600 on the ram (HWBot has those submissions and images). When I tightened the tFAW down to around 20 on my 3600 timings, I got the score back into the 3500s, but I was kicking errors after 300% in HCI memtest. So, 3600 and 3733 timings are still a work in progress for me for the new UEFI on my Asrock x399 Taichi board. But, for the first time ever I have 3466MHz working on my ram (Trident Z 4133 19-21-21 sticks, two kits, total 4x8GB). I'm around 3525 in CB15 now, although I'm working on getting extremely tight settings stable and saw 3545 in CB with those extreme timings (still kicked errors in HCI). Hope that gives some info on that problem. We've talked about it a bit in a couple threads at OCN. Best regards and thank you for your work!
@papalatistudios
@papalatistudios 6 жыл бұрын
The best you can get is 3200 on the ram? I'm running G.skill Tridentz 3600 at 3600mhz right now on an Prime x399-A... Not sure why I can and you can't for the platform... Maybe I misunderstood what you said. Keep up the good work.
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
how what ram and settings?
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 6 жыл бұрын
7:45 You set the voltage to 1.225V but it shows 1.286 in CPU-z and when under load it when to 1.373v, why is that ? is it the LLC ?
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
no it's just bad software reading
@omaral-sabbagh7608
@omaral-sabbagh7608 5 жыл бұрын
i can't find performance enhancer option with my x399 asus e-gaming motherboard and 1950x threadripper ??
@james2042
@james2042 6 жыл бұрын
This chip is all over the place. As of now it is just too far ahead of its time. All this chip is going to do is allow developers to really start making software more multi-threaded, as future generations are guaranteed to at least have 32 core flagships now. Remember guys, we went from a 10 core flagship chip to a 32 core flagship chip in 2 years. The 10 years prior to that they went from 6 core flagship to 8 core flagship. Competition drives innovation, and now that the part of the market that was heavily stagnated (and bottlenecking) the rest of computing, is suddenly exploding, we should see the rest of the industry catch up within a year or two. And for those who still believe gaming is best done with a 4/6 core cpu, most games are designed with consoles in mind, which have 8 weak cores, so they are forced to make them multi-threaded. And I am sure that there will be even more threads in the next gen consoles, meaning even more paralleled gaming workloads.
@Chrinik
@Chrinik 6 жыл бұрын
3D Rendering already uses all of the cores it can get...what the 2990WX lacks is memory throughput as 2 dies are not directly connected to the memory. So if you are doing memory intensive tasks, the 2950X(or 2990WX in 1/2 legacy mode) works better, including intel chips, but for processing core intensive tasks, this thing beats everything on the market right now.
@timothyandrewnielsen
@timothyandrewnielsen 6 жыл бұрын
I want a 1,024 core cpu running at 5ghz on all cores.
@maxhughes5687
@maxhughes5687 6 жыл бұрын
1024 cores. Al tests will be done in Siberia.
@TECH3_
@TECH3_ 6 жыл бұрын
@@timothyandrewnielsen it is possible if you can compromise size and power consumption
@AbyNeon
@AbyNeon 5 жыл бұрын
You are all over the place, this CPU is a dream....if u are a gamer you should not look at videos at anything that has more than to 6 core and costs less than 300 dollars.......We have been waiting for this cpu for two years at the time this video was published....and finally we should get the 64 core version this summer or latest next one running on PCIe and DDR5 RAM memory at 4mhz with blazing fast latencies...AND also drop in at least 6 gpus like TitanV or above and get full x16 bandwidht, which on PCIE 3.0 saturates with just two titan V. Next time You watch a game f thrones episode or play ur game on a 7700K remember that what u playing or wathching would not be as cheap or possible if there wasnt machines like these building all of it for you to watch or play on. From Your profile picture You look young but You are really already an old timer, living still in 2013, when people who gave ur first games were on dual 8 core xeons....and you still crying today about 10 core crappy gamer cpus that are 4 years old
@Pixel_FX
@Pixel_FX 6 жыл бұрын
Finally I can run my Death Star mainframe with a single CPU.
@andythewang
@andythewang 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can u guide me what is the setting on amd 2950x with ddr4 3200mhz? Using same motherboard zenith extreme alpha. I am using it for my workstation. Rendering video and animation.
@Nina_39-c5l
@Nina_39-c5l 4 жыл бұрын
hi @der8auer i have the same motherboard but my processor is an 1900x how can i get the best performance, ???, i have 32 ghz 4 of 8 gskill trident z rgb 3200 mhz CL14, and an RX5700XT, M2 samsung 970 pro 512, and power supply seasonic prime titanium 1000
@rmdanali
@rmdanali 6 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend asus prime z370-p for overclocking the i5-8600k ??? Really appreciate your help
@gigigigiotto1673
@gigigigiotto1673 5 жыл бұрын
i don't think the single core performance affect much this days. because more games start to use more than 4 cores
@Bishopheals74
@Bishopheals74 6 жыл бұрын
@der8auer Can you tell me if EK-FB ASUS ROG R6E RGB will fit on the Rampage V edition 10? I was considering EK-FB ASUS R5-E10 Monoblock RGB Edition.
@shanehenrie5326
@shanehenrie5326 6 жыл бұрын
have u tried the amd ryzen memory calculator...just curious what that is about
@techmorning
@techmorning 6 жыл бұрын
Are you comfortable with that board VRM?
@lakshmanshiva1686
@lakshmanshiva1686 6 жыл бұрын
der8auer, y do u say more than 3200mhz is unstable? is threadripper 2 maxed at 3200 for now?
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
i can only do 3066 but then again my ram only rated for 3000
@leoyoung7547
@leoyoung7547 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder about undervolting. In my application, I will be using a generator and UPS out in the field and want to limit the power used.
@timokessel8276
@timokessel8276 6 жыл бұрын
Fast 100k Abos jetzt schon mal Glückwunsch :D
@techforge-Nate
@techforge-Nate 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have the option to enable sense MI skew? Might allow it to boost a bit harder like it does on the 2700x
@Hakeem597
@Hakeem597 6 жыл бұрын
Derbauer, I'm a fan brother! love the content. Also, will this also work on a MSI X399 Mobo (your settings). I have the 2950x...Thanks.
@robmorissette7586
@robmorissette7586 5 жыл бұрын
I'm following along with the second part to config my bios for the "best of both worlds" and I'm only getting a score of 135 cb single core. I'm running an Asus Prime, 3200 ddr4, Win 10 64. Also not seeing a jump in the core speeds when running multi CPU CB. Not sure why the board isn't OCing automatically. Like I said, I followed and triple checked the bios settings in the vid with the performance enhancer set to level 3 and still no luck.
@litoboy5
@litoboy5 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, after set the bios, pc restarts and there is no video, I reset bios, pc restarts and there is no video, I can´t do anythig, everytime pc restarts there is no video. please help me.
@lexeriw
@lexeriw 6 жыл бұрын
Can you use Performance Enhancer and increase the BCLK to make it clock higher ?
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't start your y axis at 0 when overlaying charts of performance and power consumption it's impossible to tell from the gradient how well it's scaling.
@Ledmaster2
@Ledmaster2 6 жыл бұрын
Hey derb8auer: Please do a test video concerning the 2970WX part as soon as possible. The 2990WX appears to be an extremely niche part given that it encounters memory bottleneck in memory intense tasks due to quad channel and having the two compute dies trying to go through the infinity fabric. For now the 2950X is the best all rounder on the face of it HOWEVER with only ONE compute die the sweet spot might be the 24 core chip. Hoping to see tests soon
@mentalplayground
@mentalplayground 6 жыл бұрын
You are the only person in the world with Edge in your desktop. :)
@orionbg12
@orionbg12 6 жыл бұрын
385W Extremely high???? I can do 320W on a 1950X that has half the cores... It it more than perfect at 385W!
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 6 жыл бұрын
Do you measure only the 12V rail or from the wall ? 320w with a 1950x total system in cinebench is quite nice. 385w is only for 4ghz and he never showed us any pictures so we can't be sure if it pulled 385w on the 12V rail only. But when looking at the cinebenches he does, the CPU-z shows 1.373V which for 32 cores it should pull a lot more than 400w. But who knows.
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 6 жыл бұрын
i9-7980XE pulls almost 450W at 4.5 GHz, total system draw and it has almost half the core count as the 2990WX. I'd say 32 cores at 4 GHz with a system draw or even a 12V rail draw of 385W is extremely low power for the core count/clock speeds. I was told that on LN2, the 7980XE draws over 1,000W total system power draw. That's fucking nuts.
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 6 жыл бұрын
the 7980xe is released in 2017 with an architecture that is 2015, the 2990WX is released 2 months ago, with an architecture that is released april 2018 ( it uses zen+ right ?). To you, a 3 year old architecture should be as power efficient as the new ones ? Using your logic, a 2 core CPU from 2006-8 should use 15 watts ? That's not my point. Linus did a video where he OC the 2990WX with a chiller on 4.0GHz and it pulled 580w total system in cinebench. They couldn't OC higher than 4.2 even with a chiller. My point is that when Intel uses a chiller and OC a 28 core to 5.0GHZ, and someone asks for power consumption and it's over 1000watts, because duuh 28 cores on 5GHZ yoo, everyone loses their minds. Intel sux, intel nuclear power factory, intel the sun,intel VRM melter, intel whatever, but when an AMD 32 core CPU OC-to 4.0GHZ uses 580w total system power, and if they manage to run it at 4.9 or 5.0, it will overpass 1000w even 1200w easily, because that's the nature of OC a gazilion cores on extreme frequencies, and no one bats an eye. That's my point. I know intel is doing bad right now, and amd is doing great right now, We as a community need AMD to bring back the competition and it did, i'm really happy about them. But talking shit about any of the two companies because "everything" is the thing that i hate. Right now an extreme 28 core CPU and an extreme 32 core CPU with an insane OC, will pull insane watts. But no one talks about power consumption on the 32 core CPU only about the 28 core CPU, if you know what i mean.
@timothyandrewnielsen
@timothyandrewnielsen 6 жыл бұрын
Bullpoop. Its not just power consumption that is pooing on intel. Its their price, power, core count and perormance. AMD is dominating right nlw for the money.
@ohio_dino
@ohio_dino 5 жыл бұрын
How .. same board ?
@mashedpotatoes5323
@mashedpotatoes5323 6 жыл бұрын
It's so cool you make the same video in a different language
@Ascendor81
@Ascendor81 6 жыл бұрын
I have this on pre-order for my Zenith Extreme motherboard... same setup 32gb 3600 g.skill, Thank you so much for this video!
@pussnbootlp
@pussnbootlp 6 жыл бұрын
der8auer, what is the model of that 3600 memory kits are you using? Are you using two sets of F4-3600C18D-16GTXRX?
@wrexon628
@wrexon628 6 жыл бұрын
Should I roll with Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3000 or Tridentz RGB 3000?
@andljoy
@andljoy 6 жыл бұрын
Just get whatever ram you can find with Memory ICs with the Samsung part number K4A8G085WB-BIWE , they are rated by samsung for 3200mhtz 1.2v Anything higher is not a real speed its an overclock. Whist the 3200mhtz stuff is not JDEC the chips are rated for it !
@henrikvester9223
@henrikvester9223 6 жыл бұрын
Excelent video. Der8auer for President :)
@ohio_dino
@ohio_dino 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with the same board but a 1950x
@brunobarbosa9234
@brunobarbosa9234 6 жыл бұрын
Can zenith extreme sustain stable 4.0ghz all core, on the 2990wx?
@jordibt1789
@jordibt1789 6 жыл бұрын
3:31 189W at 0.975 V means 200ish Amps?
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 6 жыл бұрын
jordi Bayes Tolosa Yes it does, higher than I was expecting for 3.5Ghz.
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 6 жыл бұрын
195w or there abouts. Watt / volt = amp
@temmieelqueadoralascloudyg604
@temmieelqueadoralascloudyg604 6 жыл бұрын
The x399 Zenith extreme is not suitable for an 2990wx overclock. The second generation of the board doesn't have more or better power phases/vrm's. The only board fully ready for 2990wx oc is the msi x399 Meg creators
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 6 жыл бұрын
Thread-ripper 2 has a max draw of around 500w under normal cooling and extreme all core overclock. Any mobo that does 550w or more without vrm’s going over 110’c will do fine for it
@temmieelqueadoralascloudyg604
@temmieelqueadoralascloudyg604 6 жыл бұрын
CommanderWolfyX that is fine but he can only reach 3,8 GHz stable on all cores, it seems that the cooling solution and the motherboard are not capable to overclock that beast because that board is only prepared for a 16 core overclock. Yeah ,you can use that cpu in the board , but the overclock margin is not that great
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 6 жыл бұрын
The temps on zen need to be under 68’c for best headroom unless you want to sub 0
@GeryRevandra
@GeryRevandra 6 жыл бұрын
will these OC Threadripper CPU available on caseking store ??! ...
@DJRaffa1000
@DJRaffa1000 6 жыл бұрын
is the performance enhancer setting an Asus only setting in bios ? .. or can i find it on lets say gigabyte as well ?
@johanhammer4272
@johanhammer4272 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know the same thing.
@brurpo
@brurpo 5 жыл бұрын
also wanted to know
@lall9739
@lall9739 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you give us the VRM temps when OC @4Ghz please
@pcicecube
@pcicecube 6 жыл бұрын
Hows it run in video editing (vegas or premier) second question - Compression & ZIP with a large dictionary size) in addition to decryption (passware)
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
Premier can not use so many cores. Premier benefits more from rendering over VGA so doesn't really help there :/
@pcicecube
@pcicecube 6 жыл бұрын
Magix Vegas Pro 15 should use all cores.....i dont think it gets much light these days......you should download trial and test on a 4k 100mbs clip with no GPU offloading.....
@pcicecube
@pcicecube 6 жыл бұрын
Agree Premier has some catching up to do....in that dept...
@pcicecube
@pcicecube 6 жыл бұрын
Yup - just looked...... techgage.com/article/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-32-core-workstation-processor-review/3/
@Chrinik
@Chrinik 6 жыл бұрын
It's a beast at zip Compression, but decompression is a bit lacking.
@sunuprayoga
@sunuprayoga 6 жыл бұрын
I love your GTR hoodie
@ThomasKlyhnChristensen
@ThomasKlyhnChristensen 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how the 2950x does using the same Level 3 auto OC settings? anyone tried?
@paulvancyber1979
@paulvancyber1979 6 жыл бұрын
wow! pretty good explanation!!! Nice Job mate
@HOCMYFITEGRE
@HOCMYFITEGRE 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man
@c0rpse1
@c0rpse1 6 жыл бұрын
nice GTR sweatshirt
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
Yea fits my car :D
@sirius4k
@sirius4k 6 жыл бұрын
I think everyone are overlooking a very important aspect. You can pay alot more for Intel products! Why pay less when you can pay more.
@maZec31
@maZec31 6 жыл бұрын
Overclocker King!
@smoak888
@smoak888 6 жыл бұрын
Not seeing the performance enhancer option on my bios. I just updated to latest one and it’s not there
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
just asked asus about it. Will keep you updated
@smoak888
@smoak888 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for speedy response! i have the original threadripper and the ROG zenith extreme board that came out originally with the threadriipper. Latest bios is from 8/3/18. Thank you. great video by the way. been watching for awhile finally subscribed!
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
So yea you need TR2 for it to be working. TR1 doesn't support it aparently.
@PiotrLubin
@PiotrLubin 6 жыл бұрын
request proposals ddr 3200-3400mhz 4x16gb or 8x16gb compatible with asus zenith exterme + 2990wh
@sudabadri7051
@sudabadri7051 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hello from new zealand buddy, i was about to go to bed but am gonna watch this instead... will this overclock my dreams??
@DisamerdScroll
@DisamerdScroll 6 жыл бұрын
That GT-R jacket (?) on the chair tho, strangely fitting for the CPU
@der8auer
@der8auer 6 жыл бұрын
Ya :) GT-R
@NutsAboutGaming
@NutsAboutGaming 5 жыл бұрын
How about 2950x
@martindarlington3862
@martindarlington3862 6 жыл бұрын
great info,very interesting! many thanks for the video.
@EliasEH89
@EliasEH89 6 жыл бұрын
Intel is in trouble
@shaynegadsden
@shaynegadsden 6 жыл бұрын
No it has a very narrow usability the 2990wx is really only good for rendering outside thats its pretty bad
@EliasEH89
@EliasEH89 6 жыл бұрын
I love intel to be in trouble, so it come back to earth and offer a reasonable prices for their CPU’s
@shaynegadsden
@shaynegadsden 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah any market share amd can take away from intel atm is a good thing but i think the 2950x is going to hurt intel much more than the 2990wx its just more of an all round beast
@technotarius4444
@technotarius4444 6 жыл бұрын
EEH In applications using Intel MKL/IPP(CAD/CAM) AMD is slower. 32 Cores AMD Threadriper equal 12 Cores Skylake-X on stock with default values AVX2/AVX512F offsets.
@jcdentonunatco
@jcdentonunatco 6 жыл бұрын
@Shayne Gadsden Its better at Rendering, compression, compiling, virtualization, raytracing, encoding basically anything that is multhreaded the 2990wx is the current leader for single socket .
@ADR69
@ADR69 6 жыл бұрын
2990+2080= sick nasty
@FlanK3rCZ
@FlanK3rCZ 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is pure workstation CPU for rendering, video and heavy multitasking. More interesting for hardcore users could be 2950X with boost up to 4.4 GHz . Roman, I hope you will try the chip with LN2 :)
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 6 жыл бұрын
FlanK3rCZ Im more interested in PBO overclocking that chip. I dont know the all core turbo but with 102BCLK and some undervolting I can see myself reaching above 4.5GHz in single core tasks.
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 6 жыл бұрын
The single core overclock will be 4.3ghz at most with an over-volt not under-volt. AMD cores are pushed as hard as they can and are under 200mhz difference between cores. It will not do over 4.3ghz on single no mater the volt unless under ln2
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 6 жыл бұрын
CommanderWolfyX Im talking about PBO, or the stock boost function; and not an all core overclock. Just like how my 2700X can breifly turbo to ~4.45Ghz in lightly threaded tasks after a 100 milivolt undervolt and BCLK changed to 102 with a PBO scalar of 2x and a 500watt power budget, I suspect a 2950X might be able to do slighty better due to its slightly better maximum multiplier.
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 6 жыл бұрын
Nope it will not do 4.5ghz it might do 4.4ghz at most on a single core. The thread-rippers with over 17cores use the efficiency binned chips not the frequency ones And so it wont hit 4.5ghz Go get a thread-ripper with a boost of 4.4 then you can probably get 4.5ghz single core This CPU is rated at 4.2ghz max and the lower ones are rated at 4.4ghz because different binning one for efficiency and other clocks. Just go look at the amd website probally shows the max overclock for the 4 ripper chips by now
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 6 жыл бұрын
CommanderWolfyX I was talking about the 2950X specifically because it boosts at stock to 4.4ghz, slightly higher than the 2700Xs 4.35Ghz; and was not mentioning the 2990WXbecause of its anemic 4.2Ghz boost. With 102BCLK I should get 4.5ghz single core on a 2950X. As for the 2990WX, all core to 4.2Ghz definately makes more sense to pursue as with PBO i will only get ~4.3Ghz on one core, but given the memory bandwidth limitations on that chip either way single core performance will suck for most tasks, regardless of the frequency, and hence I am not interested in it.
@charliewares13
@charliewares13 6 жыл бұрын
Hello please the guide for 4000mhz 🙂
@frostybe3r
@frostybe3r 5 жыл бұрын
wtf is a 2900x cpu?
@KarrasBastomi
@KarrasBastomi 6 жыл бұрын
Please put it on a full pot LN2 OC. Please.....
@AbyNeon
@AbyNeon 6 жыл бұрын
Is there anything You can say or do to have bloody Motherboard manufacturers make bloody WS motherboards for Threadipper and EPYC...as it is quite obvious that this motherboard is NOT capable of delivering safe Threadipper performance for heavy duty prolonged workloads NOR deliver faster memory settings.... Also it is important to mention that a motherboard without 7 16 PCIE Slots, makes no sense at all for these CPu and people who normally spend 8 12 thousand euros on WS set ups. Why is ASUS Downgrading Threadripper to ROG branding?!
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 5 жыл бұрын
32 cores at 3GHz, and a little app that shows you what CPU you're running not only has a splash screen, but that splash screen has a slow chugging progress bar? WTF? Like, actually WTF is CPU-Z doing with 2 or 3 seconds worth of CPU time as it's loading?
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 6 жыл бұрын
385W at 4 GHz on all 32 cores? That's nothing compared to the 7980-XE's almost 500W at 4.5 GHz with far fewer cores.
@brandonnixon7105
@brandonnixon7105 6 жыл бұрын
ehhh I can get a 1950x for 580 bucks from micro center, kinda hard to justify the new generation processors unless u need a workstation cpu with ecc and the other features...
@Chrinik
@Chrinik 6 жыл бұрын
the 2950X is a little bit faster than the 1950X so yeah, the performance uplift vs. price argument is legit. Zen 2 is probably going to be a bigger jump in performance.
@s0k010v
@s0k010v 6 жыл бұрын
When will we see some real overclocking with nitrogen, or that liquid stuff that you used to make a fountain out of a server? :)
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
I set mine to manual for my amd 1950x ai tuner
@bobba84
@bobba84 6 жыл бұрын
Just because the TR is better in a few very specific, specialist situations does not make it better overall.
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
it is better overall as price cant be beat
@bobba84
@bobba84 6 жыл бұрын
anikanbounty97 price justified in only a few situations. So no, not ‘overall’.
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
True but what about tr2? That beastly from what I heard. I only gto 1950x and love it. But ya intel cpu oc way better. But for normal sue not every one gonna oc their stuff. All we need is code optimization to make amd cpus better.
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 6 жыл бұрын
So you can justify the cost of an 18-core, firestarter CPU that costs the same amount of money that a CPU with 14 more cores and 20 more PCI-e lanes does that performs far greater in terms of multi-threaded performance?
@DragonProtector
@DragonProtector 6 жыл бұрын
tr also had 64 pcie lanes
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