It's what Coco asked Yagoo about but if management didn't hate her.
@rafiffernanda6609Ай бұрын
@@ElliotKeaton Yagoo did what he can to save Coco
@ElliotKeatonАй бұрын
@@rafiffernanda6609 Name _one_ thing Cover did to protect Coco following her return from her suspension. You'll be the first.
@janarcangel49Ай бұрын
@@ElliotKeaton It really is a complicated matter during that time. I'm not saying you're wrong or right about management, but there's just not enough info so I'll take what you're saying with a grain of salt. It doesn't make sense to treat her that way since during that time Coco was literally the highest superchat earner in YT. Why would you hate your golden goose? Well at least on the bright side Coco still refers to Yagoo as her "friend" until now and still get to hangout with her genmates offscreen..
@rafiffernanda6609Ай бұрын
@@ElliotKeaton can't say i know, but at least she's graduated not terminated.
@Varler_Ай бұрын
I would love it if this kind of graduation becomes the norm in the future and if it could even open the door up for old grads like Coco, Sana, Aqua, etc. to return for special occasions.
@seveneyes77Ай бұрын
Well, Coco is not gonna come back, because she is in another company, idk about the rest of them though.
@ElliotKeatonАй бұрын
@@seveneyes77 VShojo doesn't prohibit it. You know full well why Hololive management will never let her back.
@ElliotKeatonАй бұрын
Coco already talked about how she asked Yagoo about this exact thing before she left. Coco said that Yagoo said yes but management cut it out of her interview with him and that Yagoo's opinion didn't reflect the view of the company.
@thechosennone6603Ай бұрын
@@ElliotKeatoncan you explain more on why management doesn’t want her back I’m curious
@ElliotKeatonАй бұрын
@@thechosennone6603 The same reason management banned Coco from the main channel until her literal graduation episode. "B-b-b-b-b-but Hololive pulled out of-" And before you respond with that tired rhetoric, the Chinese market gave Cover the choice of firing Coco or leaving China and Japan's labour laws made it illegal for Cover to fire Coco. You think that Selen shit that burned Nijisanji to the ground was bad? Imagine if Kiryu Coco had sued Hololive for wrongful termination at the height of her popularity while they were in the middle of trying to establish HoloEN.
@OhWakerАй бұрын
Her new graduation idea falling in line with "something the company wanted to try in the future" makes me think she traveled to the future to explore her options and came back with this.
@KaylersickАй бұрын
seems more like an expansion of non-compete
@bluebin2242Ай бұрын
ame at it again with her magnum opus
@newsaidinАй бұрын
This makes me happy. I honestly can't understand how anyone benefits from a "real" graduation - not the agency, not the talent and not the fans.
@shimazutakuma1031Ай бұрын
The company benefits if they can make y'all donate a huge sum because it's [one last time] for that talent, they'll try to squeeze how ever much they can get, especially for their talents who have a hugr following 😂
@shimazutakuma1031Ай бұрын
Idk how many "graduation streams" will be out there if the "donation" or them money buttons are disabled 😅
@mariaantonia-op8qcАй бұрын
@@shimazutakuma1031 Of course they want to get as much money out of the situation as possible, doesn't change the fact that having the talent constantly streaming, participating in events and releasing merch makes way more money, it's not a benefit for them to have a big streamer leave the company no matter how much people donate on a graduation stream, so even if we just look purely at the monetary gain this kind of "graduation" is still way better for them and for the talent.
@venusrose9890Ай бұрын
I mean, if you want to stop doing something, the benefit is that you stop doing it. Doesn't help the fans, but they don't and shouldn't have any say.
@tychovwАй бұрын
@@shimazutakuma1031 There are way more graduation streams that don't make money than those that do.
@villahermosasebastian8794Ай бұрын
Sounds like pewdiepie semi-retired arc. Pewdiepie don't post videos as a job anymore but he still post occasionally
@moroseloki1912Ай бұрын
Pew die pie gets it
@nonsencemanАй бұрын
Nah it is for more on the line of hololive rules and her wanting to do her own thing.
@AnhNguyen-kn2qgАй бұрын
More like Matpat imo like he's retired but still being here and there
@SG003Ай бұрын
What does youtubers do for living after retirement?
@frozentrip9175Ай бұрын
@@SG003 depends on the popularity they have. People like Pewdiepie, markiplier, etc can do whatever they want because they're legit millionaires. They have enough wealth for at least a couple of generations of cozy living. People in the high hundreds of thousands or single digit millions usually start a business of some sort like oompaville or this one youtuber who funded his own video game
@SilverNight145Ай бұрын
I like this for her, allows her to follow new paths without leaving her old ones for good
@ZoroakaZoroАй бұрын
Ame going Physical from Virtual
@YoukaiFofoАй бұрын
1st pseudo graduation feels weird lmaoo
@nucleardamage1Ай бұрын
Of course it's Ame at the helm
@ExMedalАй бұрын
I think a better name for it would be “Retiring” rather than Graduating Thank you our little detective
@angelredvivarАй бұрын
Graduation: Leaving and not coming back Retire: Leaving but can always come back if she wanted to
@ExMedalАй бұрын
@@angelredvivar exactly :3
@kos2919Ай бұрын
More like "Open Contract" than retiring.
@thefinalday5858Ай бұрын
Undefined hiatus
@ExMedalАй бұрын
@@thefinalday5858 that works
@Eiji475Ай бұрын
Even in departure Ame forges a new road forward. For that is the Ameway.
@R2green3Ай бұрын
My only concern is that i remember Hololive mentioned Coco could come back and feature on special events...and that never happened, and she said the company changed their mind
@cloudsteele1989Ай бұрын
Yes, but the company overturned Yagoos decision before She graduated. It wasn't like 4 months later she got a message saying she wasn't welcome back any more.
@MFAN1100Ай бұрын
@@cloudsteele1989 Not to mention the fact that Ame being able to participate again is likely in a contract, so Cover likely wouldn't risk breaking it.
@AkumaKuma104Ай бұрын
I'm sorry I'm behind on this, what happened with the company and Coco
@cloudsteele1989Ай бұрын
@@AkumaKuma104 Coco decided to graduate to have more freedom. She interviewed Yagoo near the end and they talked about Coco possibly being able to come back for special occasions. The company as a whole didn't really agree and informed her their thoughts weren't in line with Yagoo.
@AkumaKuma104Ай бұрын
@@cloudsteele1989 I remember the interview with YAGOO I just don’t remember hearing about the company backpedaling on her showing up potentially in the future when was that said?
@GummKidАй бұрын
If Ame Succeeds she will be able to save all current girls and future holomembers who ever decide to still live on within the company rather than be forgotten. She will essentially keep us aligned to a timeline where Holomembers remain around and special, living legends. If this test fails... Graduation will remain as is, the last goodbye.
@Zack_ZanderАй бұрын
@@GummKid The way Ame describes it just reminds me of this quote: “Tearful goodbyes aren't our style. After all, it would be embarrassing when we met again.”
@アドルフヒトラАй бұрын
Graduations are way more special and final ending rather than slowly being forgotten over time from being inactive. No members will be saved from wishful thinking the only thing that would be saved is fans feelings it's time to stop with the cope
@drm72628 күн бұрын
Even a graduation isn’t always the end, as long as both we the fans and their genmates remember them. Vesper and Magni will live on in Axel’s starting screen
@IamstickmanАй бұрын
Even when "graduating" Ame is always a trailblazer for creating new things for Hololive and Vtubing as a whole o7 💛
@shinyamada488Ай бұрын
That was a whole lot of nothing. NDA obviously
@Allahuakbar420Ай бұрын
She is always so creative, that's why she was my favorite EN member
@Stardrifter404Ай бұрын
Think the idea is she wants to go back to doing regular streaming for awhile without the idol homework so she can focus on trying out things she's been putting on hold or can't do because of idol activities. This let's her return if she feels like it in the future down the track.
@Elghame0923Ай бұрын
I guess others will follow this route in the future.
@redsabergaming4583Ай бұрын
U know we're virtual is such a sad thing to say tbh
@MYsolomateАй бұрын
Got me thinking.. what if the project is the real idol..would we see Ame irl on stage later on...
@DannyInfectАй бұрын
i think it's sad she has to say that.
@xeixi3789Ай бұрын
@@DannyInfectwym
@DannyInfectАй бұрын
@@xeixi3789 cause that implies some people take it with too much reality and she has to remind people it's virtual lol
@Micheal_Anthony_1996Ай бұрын
Same. Wouldn't surprise me if hololive was thinking of doing IRL idol stuff as well as vtuber idol. Could also be an opportunity to do IRL streaming. Guess we'll see 🤷@@MYsolomate
@brentantor124 күн бұрын
it's like doctor who regenerating
@lokasocbaАй бұрын
Ame being the good trailblazer she always has been
@autobotCRSHRАй бұрын
I just wonder what she will do... Amelia Watson... Detective... Time Traveler... Extraordinaire...
@TheUncleRuckus14 күн бұрын
Always felt the whole "graduation" thing was stupid and made no sense especially from a business standpoint. By having a talent graduate you one piss off and alienate their viewers, but two you also cut off all future revenue from reunion streams. It makes more sense to keep the doors open and allow the talent to return if they so choose to come back for special occasions or permanently.
@smorphous8928Ай бұрын
Ame Story is coming to an end, but I’d say a ending is always a new beginning, a new chapter.
@batteredskullsummit9854Ай бұрын
Ame never settles for bog standard, even with her goodbye :'C
@nucleardamage1Ай бұрын
At the very end, when she said "Ame way" the hesitation in her voice, she'll do great.
@fatpurp4041Ай бұрын
Innovative till the very end, we'll miss you ame o7
@rach57322 күн бұрын
Hmm I wonder If this could work for my current job🤔 “Boss can I resign but also still being part of the company and still getting paid?”
@unknown20005Ай бұрын
it’s not a goodbye it’s celebrating what was and being thankful that it existed in the first place
@tamatotodileАй бұрын
Once a trailblazer, always a trailblazer
@randomtrainerx.3424Ай бұрын
It's nice to see a talent and management have a full understanding of why this or that person wants to do something.
@Zack_ZanderАй бұрын
“Tearful goodbyes aren't our style. after all, it would be embarrassing when we met again.”
@ramamokshaАй бұрын
yeah, Ame provides a middle ground, on the one hand, Ame may be tired of the Vtuber world, On the other hand, companies don't want to lose out on closing their iconic characters, because developing a character that is deeply rooted in people's hearts is not an easy thing.But if the voice actor behind the character is changed, then Ame is no longer Ame, so the middle way is that the voice actor stops, but has the opportunity to always be summoned at certain events, And this benefits both parties...
@xeixi3789Ай бұрын
Only my oshi can invent a new form of graduation
@alvarox951Ай бұрын
Also allows the company to still sell merch of her while Ame get's a bit of money from that without really getting that involved, and unlike other graduations, it allows the posibility to easily renew the contract.
@aldrednieto8448Ай бұрын
The truth be told Amelia Watson doesn't want the Graduation Road, The Road She Took was the Ame Way but Ame is still in Hololive. And I know for sure in the Far Future she will return ✊✊✊✊✊🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Whatareyoudoing175Ай бұрын
Ame’s way 💀🔥
@godlynewbieАй бұрын
ame can show you de way!
@NymphonomiconАй бұрын
It was going to be sad regardless, graduation or no graduation.
@aj1218Ай бұрын
This is like a legendary wrestler leaving. They can still come back for big events but they are out of day to day ops
@The_HardtunerАй бұрын
Even when leaving she innovates. I think I'm saying this for all of us but we'll miss her.
@nemoatlantis7148Ай бұрын
company would love to own the ip of a character.
@natman2939Ай бұрын
The thumbnail says “explained her leaving” but she doesn’t 😢
@El-saltamundosАй бұрын
in christian: *i gonna be MY powerful form, talent hunter*
@TheMasturАй бұрын
continues to pioneer even after leaving
@UGNAvalonАй бұрын
Plot twist: she upgrades to management, and turns into a reverse A-Chan.
@crispy_338Ай бұрын
They knew what she was and they still hired her. That speaks volumes about Sony. Giga L moment
@gentrydean3789Ай бұрын
I'm sorry, WHAT AME, don't go nowhere!!
@To_RueАй бұрын
I love this new ending of their graduation. So basically Ame became an Alumni of Hololive
@SentinalSliceАй бұрын
Ame is just taking a gap year, but will still show up at college whenever she feels like it.
@RabbitBeanieOSCАй бұрын
Even if shes semi-graduating, She does it the ameway
@Godsent_16Ай бұрын
She's just now an alumni. much like other graduates normally. If any thing, its more aligned to a graduate.
@Pikacha25Ай бұрын
Even at the end, she did it the AME Way.
@mandyzimmer1052Ай бұрын
I guess Ame wanted to leave like General Douglas MacArthur and just ‘fade away’ into the HoloMyth mist instead of having a prolonged goodbye. Until the next timeline, Amelia Watson!
@dielog2211Ай бұрын
ameway 😂 instead of gone it's away ..i like that sound...it makes me think i should be copping more...
@5292121Ай бұрын
I wonder if the Ameway could bring some graduated talent back... 🤔
@jackaldecreep6491Ай бұрын
okay, yeah whatever... this is ame we're talking about... if she said it's not supposed to be sad then it shouldn't be sad... im now seeing this as she has a plan, she always has a plan so i guess trust the process...
@sirius1807Ай бұрын
she wanted the future graduate will able to comeback just like wwe wrestlers
@azvkaАй бұрын
real gator
@SpoonHurlerАй бұрын
As far as the company side this is great, you get to keep a special attraction you might put out once a year or so that you really don't need to market or sell just advertise... She could be like late career Undertaker and WrestleMania
@NBmadАй бұрын
the oportunities are endless with vtubing we have to keep innovating
@lightcpkhfm2305Ай бұрын
Don't cry, for not all tears are sour, we thank you for your years of service, Detective
@nightphoenixvАй бұрын
Too half hearted. When you want your cake and eat it too.
@KainZCАй бұрын
Graduation is such an old school japanese idol concept, cuz they have limitation for how many people they want to fit in a group and yet keep them new people coming in, but thats not necessary to be the way of virtual idols, ame is a person who's not afraid of blazing new trail, what a blessing for us she's the first one and may change this whole "graduation" thing forever, which is good news for us, i certainly hope so
@gabr9009Ай бұрын
Management be like: ok, lets do it the Ame way. 🤝🤝🤝
@gerd22Ай бұрын
Bro even when leaving she's innovating. 😂😂😂😂
@RathauseАй бұрын
She has always been a trendsetter.
@shadow_psych7069Ай бұрын
Why does it actually not surprise me at all that Ame would of course be the first Vtuber to ever leave a company WITHOUT actually graduating.
@JAOOTPYKHAАй бұрын
I believe in Ameway. I am still having to chug gatorade to refill the tears tho
@Michael-rg7suАй бұрын
could compare it to a legends contract in WWE. legends occasionally return for a short period or to advertise stuff with their fame
@thelivingghost5695Ай бұрын
"We're virtual!" Not to me...
@Sachin1671Ай бұрын
And had been an innovator since the start. Hopefully this also leads up to having a positive impact on the vtuber graduation in the future.
@fungusFetusАй бұрын
When listening to this, I can see some sort of pomu/pika/Selen comparison. It's kind of over but we'll meet her again. That's for sure
@RealDuendeNoFakeАй бұрын
She's pulling a Jerma I feel, graduation/retirement but a few things here and there
@XoftheTITANSАй бұрын
Jerma?
@-frostyfire-5449Ай бұрын
I trust in ameway! See you again ame 💛💛💛
@nobuffer101Ай бұрын
Here’s hoping that what she means is that one day during a collab you just see Ame in the background making a sandwich or something helping with technical issues then peacing out until next time. The occasional unplanned cameo collab.
@thekrispiestkreme5609Ай бұрын
To the very end she was innovating
@Ben0TheNekoАй бұрын
We're gonna miss this cute, blonde, blue-eyed gremlin. ❤we love you, ameee!!!😊
@-weaponized6493Ай бұрын
Guinea pig??? More like a Capybara.
@CanbutcantАй бұрын
I think she can pull it off.
@matarif304Ай бұрын
it is graduation but in the ways of creative ameways.. farewell ame
@ManiX207Ай бұрын
so it is a graduation ..... damn
@gwakpersonАй бұрын
The AmeWay is the Best Way!
@untitled2060Ай бұрын
I love you Amelia Watson! 💛🔍🕵♀️
@charliebaker1427Ай бұрын
We all saw the test tweets right, gonna be fun to see all the possibilities moving forward
@cloudsteele1989Ай бұрын
Can I get an @? I never knew who she was before.
@Headache1619Ай бұрын
Now take a step back and think about it Vtubers are basically acting behinds a virtual imagine or say "character" online She did it for 5 years , 5 years man. Its understandable that if she doesn't wants to be in this character anymore, its not like she hate it , its just feels limited
@douglassun8456Ай бұрын
I think you're right about that. I would add that Hololive has changed a lot in those 5 years, and what's expected of the talents has changed as well. If there's stuff that she doesn't like about those changes, but stuff that she still likes in spite of them, it's only natural for her to try to keep some of the latter while shedding the former.
@kitirena_konekoАй бұрын
Sounds more like she's going on hiatus than quitting streaming altogether.
@Belrose19Ай бұрын
Graduation? No, promotion.
@TheJadeknight7Ай бұрын
Ame podcast incoming maybe?
@edlezoropz3000Ай бұрын
I will miss you very much, thank you for your great content, dedication and passion, above all the fun moments. I hope you come back and I also wish you success in everything you set out to do and have a long and happy life. And if you come back, I hope to be one of the first to arrive and welcome you. In the meantime, be happy forever.
@777arksMa77_RGM17 күн бұрын
Choo choo?
@aljoshilagan3204Ай бұрын
so its not a graduation. its just a year long vacation. with freelance work. ame, always the trailblazer.
@villie86Ай бұрын
"I am like guinea pig" So.... she's the first but not the last one to graduate?
@Asahi1923Ай бұрын
It's crazy how she is graduating and I'm graduating high school but I hope I graduate school
@赤ゲキАй бұрын
School graduation is different. It is good riddance for many of us. Going into college or university as our next phase of life or straight to work. VTubers graduating has a different feel. Retiring from the character and either stop altogether or continue in a different life.
@Asahi1923Ай бұрын
@@赤ゲキ hey at least there is two options of graduations of high school and as for vtubers it can be similar but also different when you think about it at times... Going to a different path is almost like going to pick a university or college but retirement is almost like not going to pick a university or college but going straight to pick something else like working as a normal employee or being a manager
@Reaper-ds6doАй бұрын
So not graduation but a vacation
@ARIDCHOPАй бұрын
Like others have mentioned, its like a retirement. But I think of it as a Pro Wrestling kind of retirement. Talent can always come back out of it to make appearances, vignettes, and actually wrestle. Or just work behind scenes. I know graduation=retiring in idol world and mostly means leaving for good but unless talent wants to be gone permanently, this is how it should be.
@ARKHAM367Ай бұрын
Regardless, I’m gonna miss her.
@VizlawАй бұрын
The AmeWay is the best way
@UDesu16Ай бұрын
after all this, tbh I hope Aqua was doing something like this too back then instead of graduating
@vingyl_lygnivplus3467Ай бұрын
she pulling a matpat
@WolfosoАй бұрын
I wish this option was available to Sana.
@marshkipgaming1754Ай бұрын
We will miss Ame...
@AmyousanconАй бұрын
This gives me a feeling that they're working on making an AI version of her
@strf90105Ай бұрын
Reminder that she still has a 3D VR studio on the other side of the world from Cover and is still affiliated with Hololive. And Hololive is increasingly going global, so as EN branch grows, more talents on the western sphere won't have to go all the way to Japan and wait for an overbooked Cover studio.
@MamushiVenomАй бұрын
I just hope this means there is still a possibility for her to return, regardless of how small that possibility would be. I also hope she pops up here and there to just do random, unscheduled streams with the other myth girls.