America’s Celebrity Pastor Problem… is it really their fault?

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@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

If you found this video helpful or impactful please share it so that this conversation can grow and we become more aware of how easy it is to fall into this trap.

@xXblinnyboyXx 5 ай бұрын

For a lot of us, people like John McArthur, it’s not about worshiping the man. It’s about appreciating someone who walks in humility and listening to preachers that preach the word as is. It’s refreshing to listen to preachers that recognize they need Jesus just as much as the people in their congregation and these are the preachers that God has exalted because they brought themselves low. We listen to these preachers because they preach truth in humility and we are hungry for God’s word presented in all its glory. It’s about what they say, not about who they are. They are simply messengers.

@JonClash 5 ай бұрын

this is so well done! and so needed!!

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thanks brother.

@GordonA-Jr 5 ай бұрын

The fact you would name John MacArthur with this other clowns is unbelievably disrespectful and simply ignorant of who he is

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

This video is not about him, or his theology. It is about the people who make these mega pastors famous. Who some of which border on an unhealthy following of said teacher. He is in the video to show this isn’t just a theology problem, that obsession of these pastors crosses doctrinal lines. And the 3 quotes specifically in the video show that.

@GordonA-Jr 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollins there’s a massively significant difference between why he is more “famous” than this others and that needs to be brought out if you’re going to mention his name along with them

@GordonA-Jr 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollins for you to high jack comments from Steve Lawson and Justin Peters in regards to MacArthur’s to bolster your point is ridiculous. It is natural and biblical to have a deep love, affection and admiration for a man or men who has been faithful for 55 yrs of public ministry. Who has earned to respect of thousands world wide because of his faithful stand for truth. 1 Thessalonians 5:13- and that you esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Among other passages that indicate the same. To toss MacArthur in with Creflo and Osteen and the like, shame on you!!!

@ThisisPam 5 ай бұрын

The fact that you’re so mad about it shows that you really needed to watch and rewatch this video. A celebrity pastor is a celebrity pastor, the same issues arise from worship of mere men.

@GordonA-Jr 5 ай бұрын

@@ThisisPam pathetic

@louistrouver2800 5 ай бұрын

YES! It was high time someone made this video. Well said and very timely.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, 🙏.

@rodmitchell8576 5 ай бұрын

Churches are meant to be led by a plural leadership - Elders supported by Deacons. The idea of a 'Pastor' in the American Baptist scene is totally unbiblical.

@TheJMan31 5 ай бұрын

You nailed it with this video, make the local church local again!!!

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Amen!

@OrondeB 5 ай бұрын

This was well done! So many times we can get caught up in the celebrity pastor and have them so high on a pedestal that if anyone criticizes them, they’re defended like they are Christ Himself and they clearly are not (sorry for the run on sentence). The way that we defend them and “glorify” them can be the same way that if they were to do something terrible such as leave the faith, it could possibly affect us negatively as well! Only God deserves that praise. Great video man🙏🏾

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thanks appreciate the comment

@onceamusician5408 5 ай бұрын

they are obsessed with celebrity because the world is obsessed with it; and as carnal believers, if even born again, they follow the world. such persons, and i have been there for i am carnal in my own way, do NOT know the Lord. We may be born again but knowing Him is the mark of the mature believer not the carnal; and these poor people only show their carnality. and as repentance is the way the Lord the Spirit leads us to maturity though this obsession really should stop, it will not for repentance is neither preached nor practised in their churches and even where it is done it is usually the legalistic counterfeit

@dbecker33 5 ай бұрын

Also, it is interesting to see this on a smaller scale. This happens all the time in small churches where a long serving Pastor can develop a following. Even if that wasn’t their intention. And on the other side of it, budding large churches that follow the megachurch playbook, where the lead pastor has a minimal relationship with the congregation he is serving. It’s weird. People are weird.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

People are for sure weird.

@lighttheworld 5 ай бұрын

I’m not obsessed…. I just have every book, audio tape, recording, notification turned on, and a poster of my favorite pastor. Jk. Great video!

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thats a funny way of letting people know you have my poster.

@TrinityTruth05 5 ай бұрын

Bro!!! This was sooo well done and soo true

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@cjtrapeur9778 5 ай бұрын

this type of teaching has lead me to try and find more traditional teaching and is leading me explore the Prysbeterian CHurch

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Prsby's for the WIN!

@lukedailey 5 ай бұрын

Well made video!! Thanks for this MUCH needed message!

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Really appreciate. Just hope it make people think about hope they view the pastors they follow.

@josephbachota 5 ай бұрын

This was so wonderfully done bro 😃

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the help.

@josephbachota 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollins very welcome 🤗

@onceamusician5408 5 ай бұрын

people following pastors? sheep without a shepherd DESPERATE for someone to follow, and this is, well, because we are made to be followers - but only followers of CHRIST the living Person and not the church construct. that they are idolators worshiping their pastors shows that they have already denied Christ by forsaking Him and so are sheep without a shepherd even if some of them might be born again

@Shawn-363 5 ай бұрын

Not surprised by this. Hollywood culture, the music industry and television stars all swirl around us. North American culture is heavily geared towards a high public culture. Look also at the fame of athletes outside of the sports. This is more of an American problem due to the issue of fame and that it’s considered a highly sought after career path. Some become pastors and then they go to write books that become NYT best sellers(on how to become successful and speak your success into existence lol). I do think you are absolutely right. It’s also a huge issue because it’s seemingly how North American culture is built right now, on us being obsessive over celebrity. Take note of the toxic “fan culture” of musicians. They know more about Ariana grande or Olivia Rodrigo’s personal life than their own families. Idolatry is a bit more of a pressing issue in North America than perhaps other countries right now.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Exactly, a huge blind spot for us American Christians

@battlejitney2197 5 ай бұрын

Amen

@sanders858 5 ай бұрын

I agree with God being the only thing that needs to be worshipped, but I really don't think John MacArthur should be lumped in with the rest of these "pastors"you've mentioned here. He is nothing like them and they are nothing like him.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

It’s not about, it’s about his followers who act very similarly to the followers of these other pastors.

@sanders858 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollins I understand that the video is about people essentially idolizing pastors. I just think MacArthur doesn't seek recognition and admiration like these other pastors do. He regularly tells people that man is nothing to follow.

@sanders858 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollins Though I suppose it's not his fault if people put him on a pedestal he didn't put himself on.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

@@sanders858 I’m not blaming Jmac. But there are plenty of people that basically worship the ground he walks on.

@ThisisPam 5 ай бұрын

Really important message for Christians today.

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I agree.

@JonAdamsTech 5 ай бұрын

Crushed it Jer!

@dizzydisciple 5 ай бұрын

Ayyyy let’s goooo 👏👏👏

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

💪

@alexxandermedeiros 5 ай бұрын

How you gonna put jmac in the same boat as furtick ?

@PastorJeremyCollins 5 ай бұрын

Not comparing theology. This instead compares how people boarder on worship of these celebrity pastors.

@mmuscat 5 ай бұрын

@@PastorJeremyCollinswhich is fair but I feel like theology is important when discerning who to follow - not size of following

@timturnage576 5 ай бұрын

Yeah most discernment channels only call out charismatics. Don't pick on my idol the great giants of the faith

@ThisisPam 5 ай бұрын

Because jmac is not a god, and he is a celebrity pastor in the same vein as others. One of my former pastors was gushing over seeing jmac - “I was close enough to touch his jacket!!” Ok buddy. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, i thought at the time. Welp he did wreck himself. Blew up his church with favouritism, arrogance and narcissistic tendencies, ran away and now lying to others about it. Anyone who closely follows John MacArthur, in my experience, ends up either becoming a sycophant or losing their faith somewhere along the way.

@alexxandermedeiros 5 ай бұрын

@@timturnage576 why do you assume that I idolize Jmac? You need to repent of that ... I haven't even listened to a Jmac sermon in like 5 years lol I was just pointing out that putting Jmac and Furtick in the same boat is alarming to say the least.