America's Cup 1987 The Best of

America's Cup 1987 The Best of

[@zekejones2249]

Fremantle was absolutely buzzing during this

[@TechnikMeister2]

It was great sailing and it should be brought back. In Sydney we still have two of these vintage 12's sailing.

[@Soupdragon1964]

I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for saying this, but this is more exciting than the current AC! I know the modern boats are a technical masterpiece, but I just can't view it as 'real' sailing. Modern foiling cats leave me cold, superb as they are.

[@JFrislev]

You are absolutely right

[@Thaeos]

I heard some rumour NZ wants to bring it back to monohulls

[@geebee3d]

+Thaeos protocol for the next cup was just released. 75 foot monohulls....might foil, might not.

[@julianlockwood3040]

Totally agree - the short races made for TV on Mickey Mouse courses have little to do with the Americas Cup

[@dilliboirubirosa9638]

Concur 100 percent.

[@gaius_enceladus]

I **loved** the 12-metre yachts! This was **real** sailing! I remember the '87 AC as if it had been yesterday! Awesome series!

[@GrislyAtoms12]

I watched it religiously. Every time it was on TV, I was there. "We" HAD to get the cup back, after 1983. Good Ol' times!

[@Prototheria]

I started sailing when I was four and was ten when this race happened. My parents let me stay up late to watch it, I think. I remember feeling both immense pride and somber humility watching Stars & Stripes cross the finish line because even then, I had reverence for the Cup and knew what a blow it must have been to New Zealand. Fast forward to the summer of '95, between my junior and senior years of high school, when I had a job at Camp Normandy on Lake Champlain as a sailing counselor. One of the other counselors there was a Kiwi and knew how to sail. One afternoon he and I got to talking and he says he'd like to challenge me to a race. So we found time to take a couple Sunfish out and have our own little America's Cup. He won some and I won some, but I don't remember the score at the end of it all. He was a damn fine sailor, though. Mate, I forget your name, but on the off chance you see this... I'm sure you remember me. Those were some good times. Thanks.

[@danerlich7393]

A textbook performance by the greatest sailor of the 20th century undertaking the most dramatic comeback in sports history.. Alone... with out the support of the NYYC.. he woke up, put together a design team, they built their own sails, they trained, they raised the money, they built boats and took on all comers.. and showed us how to sail a boat race.. Dennis Conner IS the greatest sailor of the 20th century... there are other great sailors.. but none his equal..

[@Model3dude]

Yeah…. So many think these new boats are so great👎. These 12 meters boats were fantastic! Teams really had to work hard. That blown sail has gone down in history. I really wish they would bring these boats back. You really had to know your boat, sails, wind, and team! And just when you thought they could get no more from that boat, it gets faster!

[@danerlich7393]

@@Model3dude On the boats... while I share your love of the 12's the technology they were developing was of minimal importance to main stream sailors.. it had reached the limits of what was possible around 1987.... The new foiling boats with their explosive speed are truly exiting technology and this speed is the future of mainstream sailing.. I think if I had the cruising version .. I could make it across Lake Ontario in 45 minutes - not 4 hours.. be there, have lunch and make it back to the dock for dinner.. Yes I like the crew work on the 12's, the seamanship, optimization of the boats - after all it is how I grew up racing on a big boat (C&C custom 53') but that was the past.. Later I had a Hobie Trifoiler which I sailed at 35 knots sustained speed.. more than twice the peak speeds I had experienced surfing the big boat but with a fraction of the economic resources.. I LIKE the big foiling monohulls.. and yes I like that they can sail at 50 knots.. I am thinking they do represent the future of sailing.. and speed is addictive and practical too...

[@travels129]

Yep DC THE MASTER

[@kitty2band]

Coppola made a film out of it. its called WIND

[@danerlich7393]

@@kitty2band Coppola made WIND? Truly one of the most awful sailing films I have ever seen

[@alfamaize]

If anyone wants to sail on some of these yachts- there are 4 of them in Phillipsburg St Maarten- they have Canada II, True North IV, US55 and US56. However, US55 was severely damaged when Irma hit the island really badly- so they are planning to restore it. But it's a real rush to sail these classic yachts. We've done it 6 times and loved it every time.

[@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way]

KZ-7 was such a iconic boat, those outside of NZ wouldn't understand the legacy this one AC left on our tiny country

[@108hindu]

It'sALLaLIE you might be mistaken..... This yank has always been impressed with you kiwis because of that boat. For me the only thing better than the yanks winning the cup is you kiwis winning.

[@JustinLong1977]

I was 9 years old during this AC and my dad and I would stay up very late to watch live on ESPN. The Challenger Finals were some of the best racing of the Cup, in my opinion. It was pretty clear that whichever boat won that match was going to win the Cup. It was a great rivalry. Count me as another yank who respected the hell out of KZ-7 and Kiwi sailors in general.

[@sbeehre]

I was about 12 during that cup and KZ-7 was just legendary in NZ at the time and still is for my generation! that really set us up to win in '95

[@richardmatatahi4563]

Yeah we knew we had the ability, but KZ7 got us hooked from the comfort of our living room's, back in New Zealand, overnight we became yaghting experts and critic's, we got a taste and wanted more. Despite the fact we lost the America's Cup Challenger Final that year, it wouldn't be the last time we challenged. fair to say, we got the America's Cup Fever.

[@helmsman50]

The best time of our lives, when we watched the race live in Fremantle. It was guts and Glory!

[@perryarrington8446]

Stars & Stripes was a friggn rocket in that America's Cup. Straight line speed, the Americans had it and the Aussies had no shot.

[@abatesnz]

The real final was the Louis Vuitton final. KZ7 at least won one race, and would have won more had the wind not been unusually strong for that week. KZ7 then won the 12 Metre Worlds, defeating Bengal Bay (Australia 2 renamed) in light conditions while US55 didn't make the semis. The heavier US55 was a heavy weather boat but no good in the light. KZ7 was an all weather boat.

[@abatesnz]

@@scotttild S&S lost to NYYC (America 2) in Rd 1, who in turn lost to KZ7, who in turn lost to S&S. S&S then lost a few races in Rd 2 but came good in Rd 3 (losing 7 in the Rd Robins), whereas NYYC appeared to go backwards, lost a heap of races and then just missed out to French Kiss for a spot in the SFs. KZ7 was a much faster boat in the light and medium airs, but US55 went faster through the big Gauge Roads swells that came with the big winds off Freo in the LV final. KZ7's crew made some mistakes to be sure (S&S too), but were excellent and the wind strength was the key factor in the 4-1 win. Australia 3 was a heavy weather boat and had won the 12M Worlds the year before in the big winds off Freo (before US55 was ready). KZ7 beat Australia 2 (renamed Bengal Bay?) in the light winds off Sardinia in the 1987 12M Worlds. Remember it like yesterday, but for the rest of you, there's: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Louis_Vuitton_Cup

[@BrendanHills]

Wow - look at those conditions! It was rough out there.

[@boson2916]

Tis my first yacht racing viewing after bump over CNN's America's Cup preview. Love the old J than current one. Amazing treat, hull gliding and banking inches above water with the elegant sail pull thru the wavy breeze. Thanks, enjoy watching!

[@wrecklass]

The thing I miss most in AC: Spinnakers!

[@jamiehancock6296]

I don’t sail and get sea sick in a canoe but this is great stuff. Has to be the best sport to watch. Hands down.

[@alfiored9449]

Limite vento?....uragano! Stupendo complimenti grazie

[@noguercastellvi2155]

merci!!!!!!! combien de souvenirs.!!!!!!

[@leonardosanarrucia3336]

I just realized about this competition! I bought a wall picture with lain Murray & Dennis Conner signatures

[@GeorgeTheotokis]

the best indeed!

[@Skier10]

Please bring this type of sailing back to the AC!

[@georise922]

NO!

[@Lozzie74]

@@georise922 YES! If you don’t like this kind of sailing, why did you watch it? Couldn’t find a video you enjoyed?

[@georise922]

@@Lozzie74 no. I watch this video to remember how much boring those snail are.

[@kiwimon3204]

@@scotttild agreed. today's racing aint sailing. It's hydrofoils. lol

[@janrave6884]

Fantastic ! Best boats !

[@yellowstonenaturerc8518]

Soupdragon 64 you are spot on. Like most pro=sports as it becomes so technical that it also becomes boring. Like baseball, I rather watch a good college or high school game. For "real" sailboat racing was 12m. I was in Newport, RI. for the 83 cup .. that's sailing.

[@marcosroma8847]

Amazing!!!!!!!

[@karlenglander4345]

2017

[@fvingerhoed]

real sailing.

[@lesteranddonna]

AC is not about sailing skill anymore ! It’s all about technology and who has the faster boat

[@ashleymalamute]

The AC was always about technology and who had the fastest boat.

[@georgfriedrichhandel4390]

Even though KZ7 ultimately lost to Stars & Stripes, their skipper, Christ Dickson, did a fantastic job that year and he was only 25-year-old at the time. During the round robin leg, Kiwi Magic only lost one race (to Stars & Stripes) and the New Zealand syndicate managed to make the Louis Vuitton Cup final in its very first Americas Cup event. IOW, they were basically an expansion team and they still managed to get to the semi-finals. Even though this would be the closest Chris would ever come to winning the America's Cup, that initial success by a New Zealand syndicate paved the way for New Zealand to ultimately win the Cup in 1995. And one of the crew members of the New Zealand boat that year was a young Russell Coutts.

[@georgfriedrichhandel4390]

@@scotttild Actually, S&S lost 7 races during the round robin series and one in the LV Finals.

[@abatesnz]

@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 don't bother trying to correct Scott's alternative facts Sunny. He has a narrative he recalls and no facts will change his mind.

[@trship6274]

I remember hearing as a kid that the Kookaburras III were the fastest in the comp…just bad luck.

[@scotttild]

Aus had a faster boat, Conner was just that much better. He smoked them in the finals at every turn.

[@seasmurf1878]

Hi Sailor, This is the real thing. Not sailing with a trimaran in a dry dock. You can hear the wind blowing through your hair. Great roaring sond.

[@AK-wc9rl]

If NZ wins it, thy will be returning to this.

[@georise922]

@@AK-wc9rl lol thanks they didn't do this new ac75 are amazing

[@joestevenson5568]

@@georise922 The new boats are a technical marvel but an absolute travesty for the sport

[@scotttild]

Only boat New Zealand lost to was Stars and Strips. New Zealand was the faster boat, Conner had the better crew and boat handling.

[@beagle7622]

20 minutes into the first actual American Cup race. There was a shot of the American crew . At that moment anybody watching knew we had lost .

[@franciscosimonet3352]

excelentes vídeos

[@robertmiller2173]

Cripes that brings back memories, I was working in Wellington at the time, oops no I was working in Invercargill making a fortune in my own mind, I loved it! Queenstown for the Weekends, fantastic, skiing, fishing, hunting its all there down in the South; yes Southland. One of the highest incomes per capita in NZ. The Climate in Invercargill was way better than Wellington! Such a trip down memory lane!

[@captainkowalski5176]

Back when they used sailboats to race ;-)

[@jacksmith8002]

Cats couldn't sail in those seas

[@tuowl0564]

This is a fun watch! I was a young kid in 1987 but vividly remember this being a huge deal in the USA with my dad all in on the engineering aspects of sailing. I know he ended up buying Connor's book and the "official jacket". Fond memories.....

[@abatesnz]

As cricket fans will understand, 2021's AC was like T20, whereas the 12Ms and IACCs were like ODIs and the Whitbread was a test series. The public might really like today's stuff, but the real enthusiasts love the 12s, the IACCs and the Maxis.

[@abatesnz]

I'd hate to think what the equivalent of The Hundred is. The Olympics without Finns but with kite-boarding, maybe.

[@Naminski1a]

That reminds me of Wind (1992). It's from TriStar Pictures and American Zoetrope.

[@rchuyck]

This is sailboat racing as it should be. The Americas Cup racing going on now with Cats racing in sheltered waters may be fast, actually very fast, isn't what it should be. Look at these 12M boats bashing through rough seas, tacking and jibing, can watch this all day long. Cut a Cat in these waters and it would break up

[@georgfriedrichhandel4390]

Man after my own heart Randy H. During the 12-meter era, good sailing skills - not just fast yachts - won races. Today' it's mostly about technology. The America's Cup is not a sailor's race anymore.

[@stefanomarioni3775]

Jeronimooooooo!!!!

[@mbiriviri]

Great footage but some of the first leg followed by the finish doesn’t really give a sense of the races. But wonderful to watch

[@bayareablues2255]

These boats are so much more beautiful than the current foiling cats, and it's actually like sailing! Still, I don't think these boats will pitchpole, so the cats have that going for them.

[@pauljamison3340]

Proper racing by proper sailors!!! Not many of the races were postponed!!!

[@loukosa7738]

J class or 12 meter boats truly let you know who the better sailors are these foil boats great bits of technology and fair weather boats but not what the AC was originally envisioned as. Just my opinion not a dig at anyone.

[@AussieTVMusic]

I worked at Mews road fremantle during the 87 cup. The crews from all countries were very welcoming. Got to go to the after parties. It was the best time of my life.I agree the 12 metres were more exiting as it was a battle of attrition. The modern cats are boring to watch.

[@lawrencej6859]

Real boats, real sailors.........will other's please sail their hulls with training wheels inside the breakwater. Thank you!

[@MyStar1961]

Too bad this was the last of the 12 meters - they ruined this wonderful sport.

[@hcrun]

Hear, hear! I avidly followed every America's Cup from the time Australia first became involved with Sir Frank Packer's challenge with Gretel and the company I worked for between 1975 and 1993 helped sponsor one of the defender contestants in 1987. Then we had the debacle of the 1988 challenge of gigantic mono-hull vs multi-hull and I lost interest.....but regained it when the IACC design was adopted (1992 - 2007).....and finally gave it all away when the multi-hulls returned and there was more competition being carried out in the courtrooms than on water. Sad days when the twelves were dropped. They were (and still are) beautiful yachts.

[@terrywilder9]

On the contrary, they raced them into the next millenia!

[@rotwart]

It was not, you idiot. They kept racing them for years after this. Stupid moron who knows nothing about sailing please stop spreading lies.

[@rotwart]

@@hcrun You sound quite old. They are appealing to younger fans now with faster boats that are masterpieces of design. These old boats look slow and boring and dull in comparison. They are doing the right thing for the sport to survive. They need to innovate as they cannot survive by catering to an old generation who do not like change.

[@Lozzie74]

@@rotwart what are you doing, watching this vid? It’s clearly not for you and your potty mouth. Read all the comments - some of us are young and we all enjoy true yachting, not the current drag racing. Step off and get back to watching TikTok on your iPhone 11.

[@leftybass5860]

Anyone who says sailing is boring didn’t watch THIS in 1987.

[@abatesnz]

Or the Louis Vuitton final, or Rothmans Vs Merit coming into Fremantle after 7,000 nautical miles from South America and being separated by 28 seconds in the 1989 Round the World race.

[@brianmcg321]

It's sad that the AC was just raced, and the entire time I watched these older videos on KZbin.

[@sheddski2942]

After this winning series Dennis Conner shows how he knew liberty was a slug compared to Australia II but this time he is in control of design and setup and it showed 4 Zip and new York yacht club couldn’t even qualify against Stars and Stripes Santiago California after 1983 defeat Dennis was livid his boat was so dated against Australia but not this time

[@jacksonj3082]

In 1987 13 syndicates in the Louis Vuitton and 4 in the Defenders series - now AC lucky to get 4 teams - big money will whittle down Challenger series to 2-3 teams if they are lucky, very sad.

[@alaindevaux1103]

waouw

[@chevybelair612tur]

yes dont know when the boats change the old kind is real hard sailing seen the americas boat in long beach calif in the 80's when it lost it mass it was WINDY day they were pulled back in port

[@benkempf]

wish they would bring back the 12 meters... they look so much more powerful and graceful than the current boogie board with a mast..

[@benkempf]

if I wanted to watch small boats fly across the water, i'd go find an International 14 race, which would be more exciting and fun

[@randymerritt4736]

The essence of sailing -- is the sails! Selection, trimming, spinnaker vs gennaker, etc. the foiling cats are impressive but it's just not sailing; the main is lightly trimmed and the jib is not trimmed at all. might as well have a motor with a propeller on these things. :(

[@108hindu]

Foo Manchu you don’t think the current wing trimmers are talented? Really? If you say that in the wrong bar you end up in a “serious” disagreement. Every generation of AC sailors have the right stuff.

[@koho]

To bad the AC75s couldn't have sailed in wind like this.

[@Lozzie74]

46:00 Kookaburra III sets a gennaker despite protesting against Australia IV previously using a gennaker in the defender series. One example of frivolous infighting by the defenders.

[@jeremylivingstone4110]

Ahhh Memories Memories i was Cycling Around Rotnest Island Counting QUOKA's Best View By FaR ! Worked on some of the Design of Presentation Of the Boat in Adelaide Few Years Bee4 Not an Easy Portfolio Slange

[@edholm2859]

Race with the wind is a kindog film... tristan jones are in. cant find it anywhere?! someone please?

[@dmurphy1578]

I miss sail handling mistakes. The new boats are awesome but crew work created so much opertunituy

[@georgedwinell54]

Stopped watching when they stopped sailing 12 meters

[@michaelgrey7854]

This is what real sailing is like. I like this much better than foiling anything.

[@georise922]

Definitely no

[@Bloxnz]

its at its best now, fast, one error and your gone

[@stevesugg2532]

Proper sailing.

[@jeffschellet4279]

Like the worded wonders from Garland Roark ,hewn logs 🌘 crescent shaped ribs flaring bows like to a bone from Adam to create a woman ', as all ships were the antonymity of ladder rungs taut lines of guy ropes an yellow pine white oak for her scantings , how very real which dreams were launched, happiness in the hearts for those who experience a mariners life

[@reidluhn9721]

That sounds like John Bertrand commentating!

[@JFrislev]

Its correct 👍🏼

[@Naminski1a]

@@JFrislev And have you watched the 1992 drama movie, "Wind"?

[@frombaerum]

This is real sailing.......... i seriously wonder if the ac75 foilers are destroying the race

[@N4bpp1]

The current AC is a jock, it’s all about money and technology , not sailing skill. Changing sails, adding different sails, etc. this current AC is all about flying a boat, I thought it was about sailing. I’ll take this AC over the current one.

[@cpt.marley]

Once upon a time America's Cup. Then came the runaway flying boats .

[@m.waygoner8201]

I have a 1987 Americas cup knife in my possession. I was trying to do some research on it, but couldn't find out how much it's worth, only that it's rare. Can anyone shed some light on it please???

[@theg7675]

REal sailing. Real America's Cup. Had enough of the hydrofoils. Next thing you know, they will be putting motors on them.

[@daverohl3015]

Bring back sails....

[@daverohl3015]

I miss real sailboats that heel and need sail changes ...

[@georise922]

@@daverohl3015 no they are boring. Thanks to TNZ to no bring them back. New AC75 are amazing

[@chrisbelyea7101]

Thunderbird sail boat

[@brucestrigh8606]

Dennis Connor introduced the multihull to AC! I agree, ruined AC!

[@travels129]

FOR ME 12 METERS ARE THE REAL AC ONLY

[@kreed1004]

LOL 4:58

[@ElephantEarsPress]

After the 1983 Australia II design being so innovative why was Kookaburra so slow cf'd to Stars and Stripes?

[@anthonylynch4737]

Stars and stripes.used illegal.paint in modifications.

[@robitobi13]

Amel 50

[@LuisMiguelGarciaTorres]

i prefer this type of sailing. i just dont find the foiling boats that interesting.

[@gregnicholls8347]

Why do we invariably want either or when both are great whether it's sailing or any other activity. But still have a preference for the magic of foiling - boats flying indeed!

[@Me-pt2hx]

In its day ok. But so slow

[@ChadCarney-hu3du]

Everyone so salty @ the new americas cup lmao. The new americas cup is amazing

[@jazldazl9193]

Great old show but there's no denying the speed (progress?) of the new boats

[@dharrell2000]

I quit watching when they went multi hull #ruinedsport

[@rotwart]

Well I started watching then so they are even. I guess they are getting rid of boring, old fans and gaining new and exciting younger fans. Good riddance.

[@Lozzie74]

@@rotwart you don’t like this, so why watch it, and why come into the comments criticising everyone who likes it? What do you hope to achieve?

[@leroy9979]

Shred the jib and still win the race? Really?

[@BartvanThiel]

All these people whining about how things used to be better... Both boats have their pro's and con's. The old 12s are more relatable, they look like the boat I used to sail in (and like a boat I might be able to afford one day), but they're slow compared to today's boats (even the VOR class ships). The AC72 was an epic masterpiece of engineering and I will always remember the goosebumps I had the first time I saw one foil and reach insane speeds- they really are the Formula 1 of sailing, including the ridiculous price tag. There should be a "Classic America's Cup" and a "Contemporary America's Cup". America's Cup people, please reach out to me, I have plenty of ideas ;)

[@conniefontenot2793]

Bring back 12 meters. Boring watching catamarans

[@bmpowellicio]

Too heavy, too slow and too far from the spectators. These were the best we could manage back then. It's like comparing fat cart horses with toned thoroughbreds.

[@TKM11370]

hahahahah 7.5...7.8 knots... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! So glad we're watching a decent sport again with the new foiling craft...

[@stevoschannel4127]

Put one of those stupid cats out there, turn to garbage in 30 seconds...

[@rrpjr1]

Wrong wrong wrong, to all of you. Sailboat racing is the most boring spectator sport ever invented. It does not matter what boat is used, still a bore. Let the billionaires choose their boats and don't watch. Go sailing!

[@martinyable]

to some degree I agree with you , because to the unitiatied, we have stupid technical names for things that cause a non sailor to lose interest very quickly. Ive never heard a commentator explain the rules and tactics in a way that a non sailor might start to understand what the sportsmen and women are actually trying to do.

[@gazzalenbrick6381]

Golf is by far the most boring sport to watch

[@drewhendley]

@@gazzalenbrick6381 People watch golf to get ideas and help for their own game by watching the pros