America's Forgotten Colonies

[@gautam-narula]

It’s interesting how broad the definition of “colony” was, where some were individual towns and others were vast swathes of territory that are now states (or multiple states)

[@SignoreGalilei]

My general criterion was to include a colony if it was started by a separate group of people, especially if it had its own colonial charter. There were a bunch of settlements in Virginia that I was on the fence about including, but I chose to leave them out in the end (mostly so I could finish the video without it taking even longer).

[@rosgill6]

yeah one was a fishing village for pete's sake

[@chiefmonrovia6691]

Loved this video! At first i thought it was going to be about the colonies america itself established, but this was much more enlightening

[@SignoreGalilei]

I'm vaguely planning a follow up video about the colonies the US established overseas, too!

[@rebeccawinter472]

Yeah, I thought it was going to be about the British North America colony (I.e: us here in Canada) and how it “got away”. 🙄 No, we don’t want to join the US and never have. Probably the 1950’s would have been the best time to integrate Canada into the US, but since then Canada has stayed relatively progressive whilst the US keeps going further right. And now they slap tariffs on us. Not cool.

[@matthewevans1217]

5:42 As a New Jerseyan, "Pork Taylor Ham Roll" is something I can get behind!

[@benjamintimmons8013]

You forget the colony of New Ireland. It was a colony founded in current day Maine by American loyalist during the American Revolution.

[@BXMKE]

When New Brunswick succeeded from Nova Scottish after the revolution, they were called New Ireland and they claimed that part of Maine as theirs. The colonies from Massachusetts to Virginia were used to more autonomy/independence due to the English civil war and many other things happening during the 1600s and 1700s so they were self made, more developed, and didn’t like England reorganizing and changing everything every time they got involved like every 30 years instead of constant authority or just self rule in England. This also shows during American history until 1950 when America was a British(mainly English) nation culturally, religiously, and all other regards.

[@benjamintimmons8013]

@BXMKE No, I am not talking about New Brunswick which was founded in 1790, but New Ireland founded in 1779. The governor of the colony was Brigadier Francis McLean and it claimed the territory of northern modern Maine from the Nova Scotia (modern day New Brunswick) to Penobscot Bay. The Beitish held this territory until the end of the war in 1783, when it was seceded to these United States. Massachusetts tried to the capture the territory in the failed Penobscot Expedition.

[@Tishers]

You forgot the Transylvania colony in what was Kentucky and parts of Tennessee. It was rejected at the behest of the Virginia colony as part of their agreement to join the colonies during the revolutionary war. Daniel Boone and others (including members of my family) were part of that original land grant.

[@ZetroiLP]

Ayyy happy to see an upload love your vids man !

[@SignoreGalilei]

Thanks, hope you enjoyed the video!

[@ericanderson2482]

There is a great park on the south side of Philadelphia remembering the Swedish colony on that site. Well worth the visit.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

Finnish colonists in New Sweden introduced the log cabin to America!

[@rosgill6]

very informative. quick and packed with info. great video!

[@Conglomeration]

Would have been nice to see the total tally at the end

[@scottnicholson2008]

Yes--if not at the end, could you put it in comments. I realize as is pointed out in comments that the line is somewhat arbitrary, but having a tally of what you included by your original categories would still be useful.

[@Burninhellscrootoob]

Funny sidenote of interest (?) When king george 3 later added the red "x" representing ireland to the flag, creating the union jack, the red x of ireland is actually the fitzgerald family crest, often called, ( somewhat mistakenly) the " saint patrick's cross". The Fitzgeralds ( geraldines) came over with william the conqueror in 1066 and remained close to the royals in trusted positions, close to them. When the family married into the Twdyrs in Wales, they became cousins, then were moved to ireland to oversee cork and kerry. So that x is my grandpas family crest on the union jack, put there by their distant cousin

[@chickenchuggets6395]

He’s back!

[@SignoreGalilei]

Yeah! Hopefully you won't have to wait so long for the next one.

[@Connie.T.]

Always a delight when you pop back up!

[@SignoreGalilei]

Thanks!

[@JamieJJL_FGC]

Always good to see a new vid from you dude!

[@SignoreGalilei]

Hey, I recognize that name! Really glad you've been watching these and enjoying them.

[@bonaggy]

Thank you for a great video. The problem I tend to find is that people fall in love with the myths of history, rather than the history itself. Most times, it’s propaganda which has later become part of the self esteem of the nation or person in question. This can often lead to a lack of funding for ongoing efforts due to short term thinking. “Why look further? We know everything already.” History is an ongoing discipline with new tools and new avenues to present this information and gain new perspectives. This video is a great video on rarely discussed colonial history. Look forward to viewing your other content.

[@aidanpeck180]

One think you missed is that Plymouth was actually fully independent as a colony up until the dominion of New England where it was annexed by Massachusetts, because Plymouth never had a charter much like Delaware because the pilgrims were actually supposed to land in the northern bounds of the Virginia colony at Governor’s Island in NYC (this is why had to sign the mayflower compact to ensure people followed the rules) they were absorbed and when they tried to regain independence again by petitioning the crown they said no and that’s why we didn’t get our 14th state in Plymouth.

[@I-NINE93THREE-I]

Excellent video!

[@SignoreGalilei]

Thanks!

[@ericbarlow6772]

You forgot the forgotten colony of Fort San Juan. It was established in 1567 near the Cherokee town of Joara (near modern Morganton, NC). It was the first attempt of a permanent inland Spanish settlement in North America.

[@rossrreyes]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can’t say People just liked it better that way

[@SignoreGalilei]

Shameless plug, but you might appreciate my video on the Turkish Straits

[@ToyInsanity]

They changed it when the English seized it from the Dutch. So they named it after an old English town installed of a Dutch one.

[@georgemcgeorgester]

everyone talks about the 13 colonies, but no one ever mentions the 19 colonies

[@Timotimo101]

I am related to Lord De La Warr; he's in the genealogy book of The Shelton family. My paternal grandmother was a Shelton. They first settled in Virginia in the early 1600s.

[@OliyTC]

7:54 hit me like a sleeper agent trigger phrase

[@SignoreGalilei]

Yeah, oh boy

[@kingstablechurch]

What about Nova Scotia, New found land, and upper and lower Canada? You missed a huge part of America's forgotten Colonies... the orginal 17 colonies. Not just the 13

[@jamanger]

the new jersey joke was great

[@SignoreGalilei]

Thanks haha

[@gavinschlieckau5373]

That scream at the end scared my cats (and me)

[@SignoreGalilei]

Oof sorry about that - it's a bit that I've done a few times on this channel

[@moder4228]

Thank you for this video. This is a subject that I have always been extremely curious about, because I had heard of certain European powers aside from the known ones, such as the English, French, or Spanish setting up ports inside of what would become the East Coast, and wondered what the story was behind them. Thank you.

[@PeriodicTableB_GD]

underrated KZbinr alert 🚨 needs more subs

[@bobdanis9040]

Surprisingly they weren't forgotten they just weren't part of the original 13. So I don't think I watch the rest of this since the guy started with the wrong premise.

[@anthonyminimum]

5:38 That’s a good one. And it’s pork roll, not Taylor ham

[@deleted-something]

Friendly reminder that even the borders shown on the video were very finicky, and they were mostly defined to their east, and it was free game from any land west.

[@SignoreGalilei]

Very true, thanks for the reminder!

[@charlestingley7675]

You forgot Tristan de Luna's 1559 colony at Pensacola and Charles Fort on Parris Island,S C that was established by the French in 1562.

[@krim7]

Some of my ancestors lived in New Haven Colony back in the 1630s!

[@bostonrailfan2427]

there were only 13 organized and chartered colonies, the rest were lands that were in the process of being settled illegally in violation of an act of parliament or were being prevented from being colonies by in-fighting by preexisting colonies. there were no “lost” colonies: they didn’t exist separately or legally according to the crown.

[@duskpede5146]

i think it would be interesting to see a similair video talking about how these colonies displaced/killed natives tribes in order to get the land, and how lines on a map became real control on the ground. its something thats always in the back of my mind whenever the history of settler colonization is discussed, where unfortunately it ends up being talked about solely from the European perspective. which while certainly easier in terms of narrative and scope, it frames the horrible practice as something a lot more neutrally than it should be remembered as. this video has a very specific scope that i totally understand why there wasn't a greater mention of the natives. it just got me thinking about how colonization is generally talked about

[@panatypical]

I hope you're not white.

[@SignoreGalilei]

This is a fair point - a lot of narratives (even including this one) can make it seem like colonialism is just coming in and building a town, when it really involves wars and broken treaties, as well as alliances and trade relationships. It's a dynamic process, though the end result in our history at least is that the indigenous people get harmed pretty consistently. It's good that you're thinking about all this.

[@tommy-er6hh]

Here is the info on one State, Florida under the Spanish: Florida Ais/Ays - along the Atlantic shoreline of Florida south of Cape Canaveral circa 1000 (13,000?) BC. The Ais became divers and salvagers of wrecked ships, which increased their wealth. Shortly after 1700, settlers in the Province of Carolina and their Indian allies started raiding the Ais. After 1703 the Ais were absorbed into the Costas tribe. The tribe is extinct. Calusa/Calos/Escapaba - SW Florida, fierce Indians, Shell mounds, died in 1700s of disease and combat when Spanish enslaved and fought and their Indian allies fought. Had as vassals the Mayaimi, the Tequesta and the Jaega tribes and maybe the Ais tribe. Did not migrate much, came to Florida about 500s BC. Often in conflict with the Tocobaga confederation to the north. The last Calusa went with Spanish evacuation to Cuba in 1763. The tribe is extinct. Costas - A remnant tribe around St Augustine made up refugees of other tribes. Jaega - Around Boca Raton, possibly a Taino tribe from Caribbean, They settled there about 3,000 BC. Never a large tribe, most died off in the 1703 Queen Anne’s war from english allied raiders, the last fled to key where a few went with Spanish evacuation to Cuba in 1763. The tribe is extinct. Mayaimi - Lake Okeechobee to Miami area, from 1000?BC/300 BC to 1700 AD. They may have been migrants from the Maya in the Yucatan. Highly advanced Mississippian culture until 1150 AD when there was a collapse. They may be related to the Maya-koa/Mayaca(Maya?) tribes to the immediate north. Between 1700 and 1730, Cherokee slave raiders with guns from the Province of Carolina repeatedly attacked the Mayaimi. A remnant went with Spanish evacuation to Cuba in 1763, the rest merged with the Seminole Alliance. The tribe is extinct. Tequesta/Tekesta/Tegesta/Chequesta/Vizcaynos - Biscayne Bay, from 200 BC. In 1763, Spain finally agreed to give up its claim to Florida and evacuate all Spaniards to Cuba, the last of the Tequesta went with them. The tribe is extinct. Tocobaga - W Florida/Tampa bay by the 900 AD, a confederation had sub-tribes Ucita, Pohoy, and Mococo. In 1528, Pánfilo de Narváez a Spaniard met them, within 100 years they were reduced due to disease and violence. By the 1760s the christianized surviving Tocobaga were among the very small number of Indians remaining in Florida. In 1763, Spain finally agreed to give up its claim to Florida and evacuate all Spaniards to Cuba, the last of the Tocobaga went with them. The tribe is extinct.

[@DugrozReports]

"The Moon belongs to America!"

[@Chance_Rice]

We got there first🇺🇸

[@jasonfeulner5620]

You forgot Popham (Maine) which preceded Jamestown and was more robust than other cited early colonies. Also, an argument to be made that fishing fleets “colonized” outer islands in Massachusetts/Maine/Canada to take advantage of massive cod supply. Look up Damariscove Island near Boothbay Harbor as an example.

[@SignoreGalilei]

Popham is at 7:01 - and yes, the cod fishing was a huge part of the history of New England and the Maritimes in this era.

[@jasonfeulner5620]

Thanks, I assumed it was glossed over when you mentioned Jamestown, but then saw that you came back and summarized it afterwards. Oops! Guess this reminds me to watch an entire video before commenting, but I guess I thought you were working purely in sequential order. Great stuff!

[@lesyankee6129]

NJ split again in 1856 over the invention of Taylor ham/pork roll. Good one!! 😆

[@baahcusegamer4530]

Good video but too quiet on the microphone

[@niclausgronwaldt7718]

Babe wake up a new Galilei just dropped

[@Chance_Rice]

I thought you were also going to talk about some of the colonies that would become Canadian too:(

[@SignoreGalilei]

I'm thinking about doing that in a future video - stat tuned!

[@coyote4237]

When Sir Francis Drake circumnavigated the globe, supposedly he stopped somewhere in what is now northern California and claimed it as New England. Or so I remember reading. No settlement there, though. Curious if you've come across this rumor.

[@tommy-er6hh]

Yeah, it was somewhere around Monterey/San Francisco. I think he the claim in his log - we do not know if that is true.

[@coyote4237]

@@tommy-er6hh Supposedly he hammered a metal spike in the ground, claiming it, but that has never been found. I get a chuckle that "New England" was first in California if this rumor of history is true. Thanks for the reply.

[@julian4992]

I agree with expanded out the definition of colonies, but there seem to be some omissions and nuances that are missing. The Northern Marianas are included but not Hawaii? The current situation of Puerto Rico seems like a glaring omission. Also the outlines of colonies are a super mixed bag: some outlines are modern state borders (like the tip of northern Maine which was contested for a long time) or like western New York (which was still controlled by the Iroquois Confederacy).

[@SignoreGalilei]

You have some good points - here's why I made the choices I did. The outlines were mostly dictated by what I could get on a map - boundaries were pretty fuzzy at that point in history. Hawaii was independent up through American annexation, and Puerto Rico is still a colony (at least approximately) so I figured it wouldn't be a forgotten colony.

[@julian4992]

@@SignoreGalilei That makes sense.(though Hawaii was a "territory" which I think counted as a non-self-governing territory). Though I think there is still something missing in the definitional negotiation between colonies, settler colonialism, and indigenous agency, especially when it it just limited to European perspectives. Which, in all fairness, is a lot to ask for.

[@waffpng]

proud east jersey resident

[@Bighatman]

Wow

[@SignoreGalilei]

Yeah

[@antonioreconquistador]

Lol, roanoke "famously disappeared". Look up Death Wind and the description of the native god "Oki"

[@282XVL]

lol when you the Wozniak of States.

[@jay1jayf]

You couldn't have edited this video any worse, bro. Some people lack visual intelligence, lol.

[@stephanjones3239]

The Witch Trials in Salem were actually in the part of town now known as Danvers. After the fiasco the town split and the original "center" renamed itself Danvers to disassociate with that history. Many families also left Salem after the trials including my ancestors the Bartons, who left to settle Framingham. New Haven Colony settled eastern Long Island before LI was merged into New York. Also northern New Jersey and several towns now in Westchester County NY (after the boundary settlement) including Rye, Bedford, and Pound Ridge. New Haven only reluctantly merged with Connecticut, and we actually alternated capital cities every two years between NH and Hartford until 1873 when it was agreed to keep it in Hartford. Connecticut defended it's colonial charter when Andros came to seize it in Hartford. During the meeting the lights were snuffed and the charter taken away out a window and hidden in a large oak tree south of town, now known as the Charter Oak.