America's Forgotten SMG: The Hyde/Marlin M2

[@USOtaku013666]

This thing looks like the lovechild of an M1 Thompson and and M1 Carbine.

[@michaelathens953]

The math seems to add up.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Both parents looking it adoringly.

[@ragjr992]

was gonna say that

[@bigblue6917]

My thoughts as well.

[@duncanmcgee13]

Well it is from the same company that made the carbine. And a lot of the internals are a copy of the Thompson as it was originally intended to be a cheap replacement. So yes, it quite literally is the love child of a M1 Carbine and an M1 Thompson

[@nokiot9]

Woah the wood grain on that baby is a BEAUT

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

Damn, I thought I was the only one that noticed that!

[@robotbjorn4952]

Way too pretty for a battle rifle.

[@stevegable2707]

First thing I thought as well ..... Feckin Lovely bit of wood ! If it were mine the Mrs would get peed off at me for keep telling her I got WOOD LOL

[@PlymouthT20]

It looks like a Guitar.

[@gregormiller4037]

Agree, it has a bronze ish two tone layer.

[@arcantos9103]

"weeeeee don't want a sten gun" - literally every country that laid its eyes on the sten gun

[@jackandersen1262]

Except the Aussies (who thought that the STEN was much better then it actually was).

[@SadCheetah]

Why is that British man carrying a piece of trash into-ooooohh ingenious.

[@artfact2]

Daw, beat me to it. But yes.:P

[@shatbad2960]

My country specialised in producing weapons put together in Dave's shed over the weekend during WW2. See the PIAT for another example.

[@duncanmcgee13]

@@jackandersen1262 is that why the Owen was more popular?

[@warrenokuma7264]

Cheeseburger SMG: "I'm not fat I just have a wide bolt."

[@trailblazer632]

Scary thing is its still lighter than a Thompson lol

[@paulshayter1113]

derek leverknight, I always find it funny when somebody picks up a Thompson for the first time thinking it's light. And then add 50 or 100 rounds of .45 ACP. OOOPHHH.

[@trailblazer632]

@@paulshayter1113 i never thought of it as light perse but i didn't realize just how damn heavy they actually were lol

[@davidb6576]

Don't you mean: "I'm not fat, I'm just big bolted."

[@TheKencoffee]

That's a healthy bolt.

[@Vapefly0815]

Minor nitpick, sintering doesn't actually melt the material (which is one of its main advantages). For metal sintering you essentially take a mix of powdered metals in ratio of the alloy you want (making sure that the surface of your grains aren't corroded or contaminated), create oxygen-free atmospheric conditions with a protective atmosphere, stuff it in a form and then let it "bake" under tremendous pressure and heat. The temperature is still quite a bit below the melting point but you're essentially creating an environment in which the some of the metal atoms move along the walls of the crystalline structure and diffuse into the structure of a neighbouring grain, think of it like taking a bunch of snow, packing it under high pressure and warming it up just enough to create a very thin layer of liquid water on each crystal, then freezing it again, you'll essentially end up with a block of ice without ever actually having molten the snow (a glacier actually does this very thing). This is why sintering is heavily used when you're working with metals/alloys that have very high melting points like tungsten. EDIT: See RadioFreedom's post down below for some minor corrections.

[@oldesertguy9616]

That was a very good description. I actually understood what you said and I'm far from being a metallurgist, or even very bright for that matter. Well done, sir.

[@markomagajna2742]

Thank you for a very clear explanation. Realy informative.

[@happydee6950]

Markus Fuchs, I have 3 degrees related to manufacturing and none of my teachers explained it that well. Keep up the good work.

[@bigayysfromspace2804]

That's an impressive description. Plain simple english that everyone can understand. Well done!

[@MrRogsmart]

Markus, That is a some hot damn tech writing there. People tend not to realize how difficult it is to explain something like this in plain, easy to understand, accessible terms. Best description of the process I've ever seen.

[@meansartin]

"Ummmm......look......your Sten gun is the epitome of ghetto, but we're not looking for that level of ghetto"

[@RalphReagan]

Lol

[@orbitalzero8745]

Warsaw SS: did somebody say ghetto?

[@no1DdC]

The Grease Gun is pretty ghetto as well though. Soldiers used to the Thompson were reportedly rather reluctant to switch over to the M3, given the looks of it. The US Army even produced videos which stated that despite its looks, it was a good gun (which is true).

[@meansartin]

@@no1DdC I agree. It is a aesthetic downgrade to a Thompson. I thought they were junk the first time I saw one

[@Feiora]

@@meansartin Considering the M3 was designed to be a cheap, throwaway and get another one weapon? Of course they were junk! XD

[@kirkmooneyham]

This one was truly a "Forgotten Weapon"!

[@giulioespositi9052]

...Exactly: much better to "forget it"...comparede to the conteporary SMG made by Germans, and even Russians....as everybody knows.....

[@shawnadams1965]

Wow the wood grain on that gun is gorgeous.

[@johnmorgan1629]

At least it wasn't a failure, more victim of the time. Both the need for more guns, quickly and produced more easily. As someone else says in the comments, would make a nice semi-auto replica.

[@RyTrapp0]

There can be nothing better than replacing your own gun in service with a significantly better gun of your design

[@isosev]

Seriously, I think a gun like this would sell quite well these days.

[@shadekerensky3691]

Dude, if someone could re-release this design marketed as a pistol caliber carbine, it'd sell like hot cakes I'd imagine.

[@EpeXC]

You can run but you can’t Hyde

[@neen4456]

pretty obvious that we'd forget the M2 Hyde considering the atrocities its inventor committed with his own pattern.

[@m1994a3jagnew]

Oh rearry? *leaps into rice paddy and laughs in communist*

[@geokaker9630]

and you won't get away with it

[@bobsmoot2392]

No wonder it stayed on target so well. Very straight alignment from barrel to butt stock heel (like AR). Thompson has HUGE drop at heel.

[@ethanblevins1116]

Everyone gangster Til the Thompson starts turning into a Ribeyrolles

[@happyhaunter_5546]

this deserves more attention.

[@noahgaray7923]

Happy Haunter this deserves more ammunition

[@dawsongranger4940]

Ethan Blevins ribeyrolles with a pistol grip and smaller magazine

[@SgtKOnyx]

Get more Reising vibes personally

[@SgtKOnyx]

@Stanley Jedrzejczyk The Ribeyrolles wasn't exactly a treat either. Just visually looks slightly more like the M2 imo

[@samobispo1527]

The pleasing outline of this SMG is similar to an AR SMG: straight line stock, magazine close to pistol grip, high front site. Come to think of it, the short, fat bolt problem was overcome by Stoner''s large spring and counterweight in the stock!

[@Falconguygaming]

@@justforever96 the ratio of length/width of the bolt has no bearing on the safe operation of a blowback system, only the weight.

[@goodlifeFOB]

M1 Thomson and M3 Grease gun What about M2... We don't talk about M2

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Ok. I'd much rather talk about what happened between M60 and M240 machine guns.

[@kentvesser9484]

@@deptusmechanikus7362 Inflation. ;)

[@NathanPlays395]

hyde made the m3

[@chrisgullett4332]

The M1 was the M1 Carbine, not the M1 Thompson. The Thompson was named M1 by the company, not the military. The M2 was also an M2 Carbine, which was just a select fire M1 Carbine. Funny thing is the MAC10 was actually called the M5. They heard the military was about to adopt a new gun and they assumed they would call it the M4, so they called the MAC10 the M5. Nonetheless it was like 15 years later that the military used the name M4, and they never adopted the MAC10, but they should have.

[@andrewince8824]

I believe Hyde had some patents under his pseudonym, "Jekyll".

[@chrissilsby4312]

I have seen the semiautomatic version of this weapons in the mid-to-late 1960's. It was in a yearly printed book on what is available in a a given year.

[@JK-fu1bn]

The thing that amazes me about these videos is Ian's tremendous ability to communicate everything you could need to know about whatever firearm he's presenting.

[@JunRozenovich]

>forward full auto, rearward is semi auto >and you can tell easily enough with the click of diconecor reseting Nice method, to check with ammo

[@feraligatorade99]

Well, you don't have to check if the chamber is loaded, so as long as the magazine isn't in it won't fire.

[@americangangster1911]

Unless you put the mag in with the bolt already forward, then you could use that method to see what's what, or you could do it with the mag out with the bolt forward, either way.

[@toxicmatrix1337]

This looks like something I drew as a kid

[@jeffreyroot7346]

I found some of my Dad's school notebooks from 1943 or so. He had doodled a SMG on one page that looked just like the M2.

[@Kentucky_Caveman]

@@jeffreyroot7346 maybe it wasn't an accident?

[@jeffreyroot7346]

@@Kentucky_Caveman I agree, I think the M2 was used as a model SMG in at least one propaganda poster. He must have seen it and kept the image in mind.

[@ebinnisti1769]

Tbh the Thompson doesn't look much better

[@trentslvis4332]

This weapon has one of the most beautiful stocks I've seen!!!... I just love the way the colouring and the grain match!!!...

[@Liam-B]

>Hyde The madman! He can't keep getting away with this!

[@micromushroom40]

I feel like this is a breaking bad reference lol

[@rogerloger1935]

They name are curse, Everyone one of Them are a danger to socity.

[@badnewsbruner]

I really love this thing! It's like the Cadillac version of the Grease Gun xD They got a good sample also, the flame on the stock is absolutely beautiful!

[@bazookaace]

The idea of a submachine gun-rifle hybrid has been on my mind a lot recently actually. Thanks for this

[@elijahaitaok8624]

That would be the intermediate cartridges

[@kashimkalinin2524]

You mean the Thompson prototype in .30 carbine that U.S. military/Army denied and never fired/tested (sadly)

[@828enigma6]

The 18 failures to hold open sounds more like a magazine failure.

[@user-njyzcip]

A lot of guns don't even have a magazine hold open

[@gunsandcommissions]

Magazines only actuate the bolt hold open - and those magazines were a proven design already

[@longhairedcountryboy2363]

T. Wallace Not true for all firearms. Some rely on the magazine follower to hold the bolt open, like an AK-47 and Yugo magazines. This is a feature of the magazine of course. I'm sure there are other examples. The downside of which is, the bolt closes when the magazine is removed.

[@gunsandcommissions]

Longhaired Countryboy this is true in a relatively small percentage of firearms - however, in this particular example, and in my response to the op’s comment, my statement stands

[@AsbestosMuffins]

metal sintering lead to metal injection molding which is today one of the most practical ways to make complex parts cheaply and is evolving into 3d printing and sintering. Interesting early thing going on there.

[@cs-rj8ru]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine It would be nice to actually see a Norinco AR Clone. AR receivers are made from aluminum forgings. What are the Norinco's made from?

[@clevermcgenericname891]

That thing looks like it should have "Ape Shall Not Kill Ape" carved in the stock.

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

Lmao... Nice.

[@ph5832]

Life Imitating Death well played, sir .. well played #over50

[@tonyktx44]

lol, perfect....

[@joelmclamore1139]

Exactly!

[@johnking6252]

So that's who bought the contract! Hahahaha 👍

[@peterpayne2720]

I really like the aesthetics of this firearm. Like another comment pointed out, this gun looks like the love child of an M1 carbine and Thompson. The way it functions and disassembles is interesting. It's a shame the gun was not around longer, but it makes sense. The M3 submachinegun has certainly proved itself a reliable firearm and much easier to produce.

[@stephenj.mst3kfan836]

Nothing more Awesome than wood furniture on a sub machine gun. 👍😃

[@jonlennon3348]

Actually it looks like a slick little rifle. Kind of a shame it didnt go into full production.

[@alkestos]

Well it kinda did but it became obsolete after 6 weeks or so after.

[@RikkusNFG]

@@alkestosnot really ‘obsolete’ considering it performed better than the Thomson and Grease gun, but we had to ship our weapons over the Atlantic Ocean, so a cheaper worse gun was preferred

[@vicmars6655]

Holy shit! He actually found a real deal M2

[@amd65ak47]

it's a shame some company like smith and wesson/ remington/ a good company with a responsible pricing doesn't actually start making these again in semi-auto cuz this would be quite a desirable gun for people to own that like guns to collect .. i would like to have one

[@maverick3576]

And it would be cheaper than a mini 14

[@robertbarker5802]

I wouldn't mind a semi auto M3 Grease Gun.

[@RichardCranium321]

Any company BUT Springfield & I'd say yea, but they're not actually pro 2A like they claim.

[@robotbjorn4952]

@@RichardCranium321 Why not? They hate money or something?

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@robotbjorn4952 they funded some "control" groups a little while back. Idiot Armory.

[@haroldlittell689]

And as a funny note. The M-3 had problems when it went into production with the stamped half warping when they were welded together. Thompson production was to end in 1943, the last Thompson can off the line in June 1945.

[@twoworldwars4633]

I think this gun would be good for the market in a semi auto configuration.

[@winkleried]

One Good Meme yeppers !

[@jeffhreid]

It’s basically a select fire Marlin Camp 45

[@ShooterQ]

The in-line design of the stock is surprisingly similar to the original M16's silhouette.

[@markvines7308]

I actually like the look of this gun,..... comments would suggest I'm in a rather small minority.

[@gunfuego]

you aren't alone ;)

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I'm with you there.

[@navjyot5218]

I do too

[@MindjackPWNS]

Yeah, I always thought this gun was beautiful. Still do!

[@mnicrashSoren]

I would buy a replica In a heartbeat

[@stevejenkins9984]

Honestly this is my favorite SMG error! I may or may not know somebody who may have or may not have replicated one of these in his grandfather's machine shop. Let's just say I fell in love all over again! This gun is by far more usable than an M3 or Thompson ever thought of being. Too bad they didn't make more of them

[@robsorgdrager8477]

I've noticed that most ww2 rifles have a " theme " the fore grip on most us rifles seem to share a similar look🤔

[@vsk2377]

Just like how you can see the heredity of the SKS in the AK platform

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@vsk2377 I've always wondered is it a thing done for the soldiers or to save money and time? I mean I can see if you made all your weapons similar so a soldiers body and mind wouldn't have to make new muscle memory...if that makes sense . But I spose it could be a cost and manufacturer thing as well🤔

[@vsk2377]

@@robsorgdrager8477 could be that, I think it's more of a case of manufacturers saying "we need a hand guard for this weapon, and cause we made millions of similar pieces, we dont need to reinvent the wheel each time we make a domestic weapon."

[@SonicsniperV7]

@@vsk2377 This. Ian has shown other guns that used certain parts because the manufacturer already had a stockpile/set up tooling. It's the same reason many designs will also use already widely available magazines instead of new ones. For example, the STEN gun uses MP40 mags.

[@FairlyUnknown]

Why change what's not broken? It works so there was no need to change it

[@iac4357]

9:05 That Bolt is truly a study in Maching Costs. That is, it was apparently decided that it would be better to machine the entire Bolt from one large cylinder of Steel; removing all that Metal, rather than making it from two pieces (cylinder & front "rod") joined together.

[@ranmarsh8271]

Never even heard of this weapon until today, pretty cool but sad that there are only a few left

[@FlameBlueNova]

Now THIS is exactly what this channel is made for!!!

[@rcbif101]

I've seen a semi-auto build online of this, and the builder 3D printed the complex midsection.

[@Victorious_Reads]

Small addition about the 3D-Printing thing: it absolutely depends on what method you use. if you refer to metal sintering, today it's mostly done with a laser that melts metal particles layer by layer, with new layers "sprinkled" on top every time a layer is done. There's quite a few videos about it out there if you're curious.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Most get a second sintering step for the whole part after cleaning. It's not like fdm where it's ready once it comes out of the "printer".

[@stevenmael]

I like this thing, if by some miracle i ever get the chance to get my hands on one im taking it.

[@sogerc1]

Yes, Ian, thank you, I was wondering why I've never heard of an M2.

[@1804unclesam]

So when a Thompson and a M1 carbine love each other very much...... the DoD get this a year later.

[@SonicsniperV7]

* DoW

[@danielolguin6495]

This thing is freaking awesome!!! I wish this would have been put into production. 😔

[@b-conn6624]

You finally did it. I've been waiting for this video for probably as long as I've known about this gun. Really wish they'd put it in BF5.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Maybe they will now that they know about it... :)

[@Hotshotter3000]

Thank you. Just thank you for covering this.

[@VegasCyclingFreak]

Neat to see one in the flesh. I’ve only seen one in a book I have from the late 70s

[@happyhaunter_5546]

MAN I love military SMG's that don't get enough love! This is beautiful ^_^

[@arthurmorgan2418]

Nobody: The m2: *aight imma hyde*

[@MrCarGuy]

This got my attention. Hadn't watched an episode in a while. Beautiful condition and finish.

[@Tfaonc]

Love it when Ian says "It's got some interesting ... "

[@togglefire3537]

You know at first this gun looks weird but after you explained it and it's more in detail in front of my eyes it's kind of one of those things where if this gun was adopted over the m3 grease gun then to be honest the grease gun would have been the odd-looking fellow the first time around. Cuz if you think about it they both look unique. I like how they instead of trying to put more metal on it put more wood on it. I have seen this before and a lot of different guns when you for instance take the wooden stock off of the mosin nagant and put the archangel kit on it, it has significantly more kick back and it also travels up a lot further with the shot instead of keep it on Target fairly easy. Wood is an amazing shock absorber.

[@MrBioniclefan1]

Yeah that make sense

[@Bl4ckD0g]

If a Thompson and an M1 Carbine had a bastard love child.

[@trailblazer632]

Itd be perfect😂

[@danieliussupienis9703]

Exactly what I thought.

[@Joshua_N-A]

This weapon is a missed opportunity. Put a Bendix-Hyde Carbine gas system in it and chamber it in .30 Carbine cartridge or make a new cartridge for it by neck down a .351 WSL to load a .270 caliber bullet and give it a 30 round magazine. Give it an updated design too.

[@Bauglir100]

So an M1 and an M1? Makes sense, because M1+M1=M2.

[@alangriffin8146]

That disassembly is awesome!

[@nosuchthingasshould4175]

How gorgeous that m2 is, especially when Ian pulls out the grease gun. Edit- seems like the other comments disagree.

[@jonlong2663]

I think it looks good.

[@FairlyUnknown]

People have bad taste. They think ARs look good lol.

[@macbrown99]

My first thought upon seeing Ian looming over this thing is that the wood seems really, really nice. That's a pretty stock for something that is, ostensibly, a military firearm.

[@carlwitt7950]

This gun looks like the Netflix adaptation of a Thompson... Some things are better left forgotten. I still enjoyed your video. It's always a joy learning about old firearms.

[@tedarcher9120]

I think it looks very cool, much better than grease gun

[@dmforsyth]

13:30 Ian's Magic Pockets strike again.

[@JosephGeneralissimo]

This is the most American gun I've ever seen

[@sasquatchman22]

@Kathleen Shaw I believe the M2 50cal would like a word with you

[@NguyenMinh-vs1vm]

M1911: Am I a joke to you?

[@Joshua_N-A]

Henry Lever Action: Says who?!

[@g0679]

Got Colt Walker?

[@darianthescorpion1132]

He has a great point. Researching the M1 and the M3, I have in fact wondered was there ever an M2? Unfortunately, this is a gun that history doesn’t remember at all. A Forgotten Weapon. 👍👍

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

Yo! That freaking bolt man... When he pulled that out I literally gasped.. Lol

[@tedarcher9120]

That girth

[@jamesdillonmccracken]

Absolute unit

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

Right? Shit is crazy..

[@Govanmauler]

If the enemy comes upon you during maintenance take firmly in your hand the bolt and have at him

[@webtoedman]

@@Govanmauler Thereby ending him rightly, 1940s style.

[@samobispo1527]

Very handsome looking gun. Borrows from the M-1 Carbine: side-mounted sling, similar front band, almost exact copy of front band retaining spring, oiler, and rear retaining plate. Add a good muzzle brake to meet the required 16" barrel, make it take a magazine that is fairly common, and sell it for $400 and modern copies would sell like hotcakes.

[@andrewwaterman9240]

A wonderful design, almost elegant in its simplicity. It really is a shame that they didn't just accept the added cost of forging the forward receiver section and get the gun into full-scale production. Perhaps more would survive today.

[@billbrasky6827]

Ian please shoulder more of these firearms. It would give us more of a feel for the ergonomics and size. .02$ Love you Ian!

[@panzerman22]

Looks like a german G43 and Thompson submachine gun had a fun morning after the club let out.

[@squirrele.1266]

Finally someone else who thinks it also looks like a g43 a bit

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@MrSharpClaw]

Did these 400 ever see any action, or did they put them in storage and forgot about them ?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

No, they were never issued.

[@lamelama22]

Forgotten Weapons That seems really dumb during wartime, but I guess it makes sense so you don’t have separate training / parts.

[@trailblazer632]

Think it wouldve been a good spec ops gun. I mean it uses standard ammo and mags

[@christophernemeth421]

It wouldn't be wise for the govt to put it into service. Since production stopped there would not be a supply of replacement parts

[@Richard-qy2bz]

My father used one in Okinawa in WW2 as a Seabee, until the stock broke. see above.

[@tdhawk7284]

This gun is very cool. The straight stock facilitates staying on target during automatic fire. The quick disassembly without tools is great. It uses Thompson mags that had a good reputation and were plentiful at the time. The negative is that it uses a lot of wood for the stock and hand guard.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

It looks like a mutated SKS.

[@maverick3576]

Possibly the milk man was part Russian

[@BushcraftingBogan]

I thought something similar. I thought it had a Russian quality to it.

[@FairlyUnknown]

"Anything with a wooden stock looks like a SKS"

[@chubbycatfish4573]

The big flat receiver cover on the SKS is what I thought of when I saw this rifle.

[@l_CJ_xl]

FairlyUnknown in that case, almost every gun from ww2 are SKS considering how popular wooden finishes on guns were back then.

[@Fuddleton]

A lot of pressure going through some fairly thin walled wood. Also, sintering is very different from additive welding. Sintering under heat and pressure allows particles to join by atomic diffusion, creating very large and chaotic intergranular zones. Modern additive is designed to completely weld the metal powder grains at a time, so you do go through full phase transition and recrystallization. It's why sintering is done under pressure, and additive is done under vacuum/argon backfill. You still have to HIP the resulting parts to reduce porosity regardless though.

[@T_bone]

This would be an interesting firearm to have as a reproduction using modern design and manufacturing methods.

[@ajvanmarle]

Look at that woodwork. Absolutely beautiful.

[@ihcfn]

The U.S. government might not have needed this but, I'm pretty sure I do!

[@winkleried]

lost and confused Same here, even in a semi auto only format..

[@jaighter]

@@winkleried go away.

[@christopherlng753]

Whether it be a semi auto version or even an air soft version: replicas of this would sell like hot cakes... probably

[@yoboikamil525]

So an M1 Carbine and Thompson walk into a hotel...

[@g24thinf]

Really neat gun, I noticed a lack of heat shields I would think the wood stock would get scorched pretty quickly.

[@Moredread25]

I thought the Reising was the M2 sub gun.

[@Karle94]

Reising was actually M50, and M55 for the guns with the wireframe stock.

[@coolsenjoyer]

@@Karle94 Why did they go with different name system for that one? Something to do with it being mostly Marine weapon and the M1, M2, M3 etc. being Army designations?

[@Karle94]

@@coolsenjoyer The M for the Reising is model. Reising Model 50, 55 etc. The Reising was never a formally standardized US military firearm, thus never given an official M designation.

[@redhammer92]

Ian you rock! Thanks for all this information! Hope you have a great day!

[@artfact2]

'Weee, don't want a sten gun.' Is pretty much what everyone said.:P

[@1971irvin]

Its Sten gun, not Stenn gun... 😁

[@artfact2]

@@1971irvin oops. corrected.:)

[@jailbreaker1214]

stealing the top comment doesnt make you cool, idiot

[@poot111111]

I did not expect the use of MIM in this "forgotten weapon". I certainly didn't expect the way the firearm was made to be the most interesting aspect!

[@lasersharksushi1975]

It looks like someone put a stock on a muffler lol

[@rmc7434]

Very cool, rare weapon that I've never even heard of before. Thank you.

[@828enigma6]

Two improvements. I'd have added a dust cover, and a compensator.

[@vitis65]

Sounds like it doesn't need a compensator given how controllable it already is.

[@Kawawaymog]

Great stuff as always, Ian

[@EveTheGuardian]

I don't know why, but all the wood makes me think this is the "Griswold Family Truckster" of submachine guns

[@Elendrian]

I was searching for this video, and passed 3 other "forgotten weapons M2" videos before I found the submachine gun. Gotta love that naming system.

[@tonyktx44]

Man, this thank could have benefited with a teliscopic bolt....

[@Kaboomf]

Absolutely, and it isn't like the concept was unknown. Winchester used telescoping bolts in their pre- WWI series of self loading rifles so telescoping bolts had been around for decades already by the time of the M2 subgun.

[@soldat2501]

One of the things that struck me was how thin the walls of the stock were by the bolt/upper receiver. It would not take much to crack or break that area. That would be the Achilles heel for this weapon and would be much better to have as either stamped steel or milled aluminum.

[@martinstrumpfer1620]

This is a re-upload no? I'm certain I watched a video here on this SMG a few months a go?

[@kyle360123]

A lot of these early smgs looked similar. I think Hungary made one just like this, I think that's what you remember but I could be mistaken, it had a more powerful cartridge.

[@Vi3trice]

It was a reproduction M2.

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

@@Vi3trice was gonna say the same..

[@shannonsheroan2922]

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[@jessb91106]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[@jamesgravel7755]

Wow. Beautiful wood. Great design just a awesome.45 acp machine gun. And very little were made. What a shame. I’d love to see one in person. What a huge bolt. Just a crazy looking piece of history.

[@azy7trillion886]

This looks like the guns I drew in elementary schools

[@Explosivesole1776]

Legit was looking for this comment 😂

[@jeffreyroot7346]

My Dad did draw something just like this in the margin of one of his notebooks around 1943 .

[@Justice-ian]

Sound design and beautiful execution. The few issues it does have (bulky rear receiver; complex forward receiver, and ensuing manufacturing difficulties) are self-inflicted and would never have existed if he'd just used a full-profile bolt, narrowed on the bottom only (like a STEN and countless others). The "Good Idea Fairy" strikes again!

[@tedarcher9120]

Probably aperture is 100 yards and notch is 200

[@kodiakkeith]

Yup. He got that backwards.

[@tedarcher9120]

@@quentintin1 or maybe 50 and 100

[@Govanmauler]

@@tedarcher9120 gotta be, no way there putting a 200 zero on an open bolt subby

[@tedarcher9120]

@@Govanmauler why not? Mauser c96 pistol had 500m zero

[@TacoSallust]

I love your auction highlights!

[@MandalorV7]

Now looking at the M2 and M3 side by side, the M3 just looks a stripped down version, basically removing that heavy bulky ( stylish) wood furniture.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Same design guy.

[@dermetzger]

There is this game called Enlisted on Xbox, and in the trailer, there is a close up shot of a soldier using one of these in combat.

[@BigBigBigJeff]

Didn't you do the M2 before?

[@moredepressolessespresso5944]

That was an M2 carbine

[@Arthurzeiro]

I believe that was a reproduction semi-auto made by a private individual.

[@tedarcher9120]

Typical americans

[@BigBigBigJeff]

@@tedarcher9120?

[@mordecaieagle4240]

You might be thinking the video about m2 reproduction Ian did a while back. Or perhaps the Reising m55 which is often thought to be the m2 since it was issued between m1 and m3.

[@jamesshannon5712]

Interesting piece... Fair to say maybe Marlin used some design elements in later years? maybe even some influence with the Camp 9/45 more recently? I even recall seeing a FA Camp carbine- experimental I believe not a serious contender in the SMG market of the 80's .. maybe one of their designers found a long forgotten M2 in the vault and got inspired...