America's King Tiger KILLER, the Super Pershing | Cursed by Design

[@ConeOfArc]

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[@Ent1610]

Hey cone, please do the T34 Heavy tank next

[@kommandantgalileo]

what is better the Panzer 4 or the Tiger 1?

[@huckfinn9860]

Hey I just got a Panther tank Haynes enthusiast's manual for Christmas!

[@calindanielbelibou6137]

What about maus?

[@seraphwithatank6535]

nice sponsor.

[@catstopower]

"The 90mm M3 ain't enough to beat the Kingtiger!" "Mount the T51E1 on the T26E1." "The gun makes the tank lean forward and it's hard to elevate it!" "Add counterweights and springs on the turret." "The long shells are difficult to load!" "Mount the T15E2 with two piece ammo on the T26E3." (Still sends the one with the T15E1) "We don't want to loose the tank during testing!" "Add some extra armour made out of our equipment and a Panther." "The extra armour makes the tank lean forward!" "Add more counterweights on the turret." "We don't have the gun sight for the cannon!" "Just use the M71C from the 90mm M3 cannon." "It doesn't match with the ballistics of the T15E1!" "Work out a range sheet." (Inspired from Potential History's video about the Firefly development)

[@Fish-kz8xw]

sir 17 pounder wont fit! *PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS*

[@catstopower]

the radio won't fit *CUT A HOLE AND HAVE IT STICK OUT THE BACK*

[@aleky98]

the engine's no good *GET FIVE CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGHETER*

[@Bruhsound4.0]

@@aleky98 Sir! let's just buy some american tanks! *NO, WE MAKE OUR OWN STUFF*

[@jamesharding3459]

Now I want this in what I imagine Patton’s and some random tanker’s voices to be.

[@h31212]

Fiction: King tiger killer Reality: Both tanks break down 100 km from each other

[@kloschuessel773]

Mission accomplished

[@tugalord]

America still wins bc P47 thunderbolt Shitty edit:[REDACTED][DATA EXPUNGED]

[@bigmeme8464]

@@tugalord yes

[@commandernonna6478]

@@tugalord ok Americanaboo

[@Trve_Kvlt]

@@commandernonna6478 Ok Wehraboo

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I appreciate the link. Thank you.

[@ConeOfArc]

You covered alot more of the minor details than I got to in my video so I knew anyone interested in the subject should check out that video as well.

[@cheesedrgn]

Hi

[@Nightwing690]

When are getting more Chieftains hatch videos? We haven't gotten a KV-2, Tiger 2, JagdTiger, Stug, FV4005 or Tortoise videos.

[@wendigo5142]

*tank you

[@Frenchdefense9404]

Ah yes the God of tanks related things

[@M4A3Sherman]

I actually volunteered and interned at the First Division Museum and I walked past the last Super Pershing almost every day. It’s a neat tank and I actually did a presentation to the public about it.

[@frankpolly]

is the tank still open or did they seal off all the hatches completely?

[@dominicvucic8654]

So out of the 2 that were built one exist wow that's impressive

[@Legiondude]

​@@dominicvucic8654 There were some amount north of 20 T26E4's built IIRC

[@dominicvucic8654]

@@Legiondude still impressive there other vehicles of low production that cease to exist

[@JohnJohnson-yl9of]

I love cantigny and visited there every time I had the opportunity when I’d go see my grandparents in Chicago, I got to try on uniforms and helmets from the first infantry from ww1 up through Vietnam when I was maybe 7 it was a really nice experience as a young kid the vets were really nice and that place definitely inspired me a lot to start collecting

[@jamesharding3459]

King Tiger: What the hell are you? SPershing: I’m you, but American.

[@Mister_Clean]

*Suspension breaks**

[@wanderingman50]

@@MaliqIbrahim-1306 *laughs in 90mm*

[@jamesharding3459]

@@MaliqIbrahim-1306 Big gun, thick armor, slow, unreliable.

[@tugalord]

@@MaliqIbrahim-1306 dick move

[@jamesharding3459]

@Co S The majority of the criticisms I have seen leveled at T26 regard it's underpowered engine and inferior mobility. Are all of these incorrect?

[@matthewsay3756]

“Could penetrate a panthers from 2600 meters” Warthunder: I’m just gonna ignore that

[@justinkedgetor5949]

Germany suffers

[@AgentZombie6021]

Idk about you but *if you can actually land the damn shot* The APCR shells will rip a fucking panther in half at any range

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

Panther hit by T33 shot at 900m in reality: [clean hole] "Where did the crew go?" *hand gestures* "POOF it is gone. MAGIC" Panther gets a point blank sack tap from the T15E2 T13 shot: *PING* "tHaT oNe BoUnCeD."

[@matthewsay3756]

@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 it’s been a problem since forever , if you look at the WT forums the first thing to pop up about the penetration is from 2017 and it still hasn’t been fixed

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

@@matthewsay3756 Because Germany Suffers, don't ya know? We fix the problems then what is the point of playing the game. You already have a game that can do lots of stuff. Why not give everybody a free Skink tank?

[@dihar5966]

trust me some years later this thing will be in the Nat geo or Historical channel

[@potatojuice5124]

This along with mark Felton

[@tylerwenks1063]

No that will be saved for conspiracy theories like “Hitler’s still alive” or “aliens built the pyramids” or “NASA is hiding alien bodies from the 60’s”

[@kayagorzan]

Imagine David Attenborough voicing this

[@kh2b573]

@@kayagorzan nah our boi be voicing it

[@kayagorzan]

@@kh2b573 aight man, we'll have Dave as a guest instead?

[@Mafiaman2463]

I remember when I first joined WT, when I got to tier 3, I saw the super pershing, and was like "gimme dat"

[@tugalord]

One of my favourite 6.3 heavys

[@skilllost9584]

when my T-34 85 meet super pershing for first time i panic and shoot nothing happen to the tank i knew i was doom but after being killed by super pershing my IS-2 cook it and i don't want to see T26E1 again

[@omniyeet8818]

@@tugalord But the repair cost is stupidly high lmao

[@seabasso6849]

@@omniyeet8818 lorraine 40t wants to know your location

[@tugalord]

@@omniyeet8818 yep One of my biggest issues with it as well as uptiers to 7.3 Idk why the repair cost is that high it's not like is broken and needs that to balance it, I actually stopped playing it because every time I play it I get bankrupt

[@Intercaust]

Super Pershing: Where's my ammo. Supply Sgt: I traded it for beer and a Dutch smut mag. You don't really need that do you? Super Pershing: Erm...

[@rjscott6116]

What on earth are you talking about?

[@TheEpicNoob]

@@rjscott6116the ammo never made it to the super pershings

[@l337pwnage]

Definitely American. "We need more armor!" *welds a bunch of scrap metal on an old tank* "Here ya go. Need anything else?"

[@altair458]

At least they had a tank to save englands sorry tea drinking ass. If not for America and Russia they would be speaking German in parliament today. 🖕🇬🇧 god shave the queenie🖕england

[@l337pwnage]

@@altair458 That's a boomerific post.

[@TornadoADV]

I mean, german armor steel was getting pretty bad towards the end of the war, but I wouldn't go so far as to insult it as calling it "scrap". :(

[@wellshit9489]

@@altair458 mostly Russia though. Easy to act strong when you aren't getting bombed by the Germans.

[@thepurplefistoffury5350]

@@altair458 at least we didnt win by acts of terrorism against japan

[@marquez4204]

Meanwhile in US tank development office: Designer: "Hey these German big cats are getting out of hand" Engineer: "Hmmm, remember the time we put an M4 on steroids?" Designer: "Yeah when we made the Jumbo?" Engineer: "Yeah! Why don't we just do the same thing with our new M26 Pershings?!" Designer: "Carl you're a freaking genius!" *(SUPER PERSHING INTENSIFIES)*

[@kh2b573]

M26*

[@marquez4204]

@@kh2b573 Crap I mixed up the numbers

[@syahareensharani6869]

*American sees a Panther Tank* Pershing: King Tiger Panther: Do I really look that fat ?

[@frisho2190]

Well 140kg chick vs 160kg chick not that big difference

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

Me: panther your not fat , your perfect just the way you are

[@ln7929]

You not fat panther your just a big boned medium tank that weights more than some heavy tanks

[@frisho2190]

@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 panther is like obese person it also died prematurely because of insides failure. (For obese people heart for panther final drive)

[@robertharris6092]

To be fair theyre both the same chassis. And if youre a km away its be hard to distinguish.

[@generalock3015]

me drinking from coldest water bottle MMMMMM THATS GOOD!!!!! me drinking from regular water bottle ☠☠☠

[@bernardberben4852]

Random but yes I agree

[@MaliqIbrahim-1306]

Warm water = uh... well... not good?

[@11Survivor]

Uh, use a fridge?...

[@softdrink-0]

Shill 😆

[@mountainguyed67]

Put it in the freezer until there’s some ice in it, awesome!

[@nathanokun8801]

Additional note: Don't forget the ammo! To my knowledge, the only anti-tank ammo that was available for the 90mm gun prior to the end of WWII (and possibly for some time after), was the T33 E'X', where the 'X' stands for one of several modification versions of the projectile. I have an E4 with the powder cartridge empty and it is one of the single-piece designs. The "T" designation shows that it was still an EXPERIMENTAL projectile not yet introduced into the standard Army inventory -- I am not sure this design ever was. The projectile weighs about 43 pounds and is crimped to the huge projectile cartridge at the projectile's base just below the single copper driving band. This projectile is an "AP Shot" projectile with no streamlined windscreen or hardened AP cap on its nose and the nose was a rather blunt-point "Secant Ogive" design (has a somewhat more conical, less curved shape than the more-typical Tangent Ogive nose where the nose merges smoothly with the cylindrical body); the S-O shape having a beveled crease where it joined the lower body. This nose allowed a reasonably good penetration by "wedging" action against thick armor a near-right-angles impact (up to circa-30 degrees from right-angles as zero), but was blunt enough to dig its lower edge ("chin") into such a thick plate at higher impact angles over 45 degrees such as the sloped upper hull of a PANTHER or TIGER II or their up-gunned, turretless, tank-destroyer variants. Many of the earlier US anti-tank projectiles in WWII had AP caps to keep the nose from shattering on impact at moderate (30-45-degrees) against ductile armor like US tanks used and against the face-hardened armor used by many German tanks, both as their main armor or as uparmored over-layers at all angles up to 45 degrees or so. This projectile seems to have been made tough enough not to fail under these conditions. As the fronts of German tanks became more sloped and streamlined to increase glancing as a major form of protection improvement, the caps actually started to cause REDUCED penetration, since they flattened out and were broken up on the plate face, reducing the weight of the shell as it tried to go deeper into the armor. Also, it was found that projectile nose breakage at high obliquity where glancing was the most important means of increasing protection, actually INCREASED penetration due to the broken nose pieces ricocheting away no longer affecting the rest of the projectile at all, so it just kept digging into the armor at the original spot with bad effects on the armor. Note also that this new shell was AP Shot, with a solid core increasing its weight and strength, since the older capped shells had an internal cavity for an explosive. Explosives may make the shell do more damage if they penetrate, but the hollow space inside the projectile most decidedly makes the projectile body lighter and weaker, most especially when hitting at an oblique angle, which in many cases made them of minimal effectiveness (all or nothing seems to have been the rule and AP Shot does that as well as or even better than an AP shell does if it penetrates).

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

The T designation was retained for some reason, even though the projectile was the standard AP round into the 1950s. T33 did have a 'ballistic cap' windscreen, but no cap. Besides the T33, the M3 was furnished with M82 APCBC and T30E16 APCR.

[@lowryder3209]

When will we see that arl44 prototype thats in the intro?

[@startingbark0356]

Its an FCM F1

[@lowryder3209]

@@startingbark0356 oo cool ill look it up

[@ItsTheKerminator]

Germany: We have a team of professional engineers prepared to draft and design the ultimate armored vehicle. USA: *Monster Garage Theme intensifies*

[@user-dd8vo7or2d]

*Pimp my ride*

[@tremedar]

@@user-dd8vo7or2d Yo, I heard you like armor....

[@L1mp1nB1zk1t]

Such a shame the SuperPersh that saw action wasn't preserved. A real shame.

[@kireta21]

"Hey Mike, they say we can keep only one, which is it going to be?" "Obviously not the one with busted suspension!" Or something along these lines

[@billwilson3609]

It was knocked out after a Panzer IV put a 75mm round thru the side of the hull. The Army didn't want the M26 in the first place so wasn't thrilled when they were sent the single Super Pershing to try out. That's why the Army allowed Belton Cooper to screw it up by adding un-needed additional armor. The M26 was limited to slow speeds to avoid screwing up it's automatic transmission so Cooper's added armor reduced it's speed to a crawl. It crawled around for two weeks where it hit two unknown distant targets before being knocked out by a medium tank in April. The war was close to ending so It got hauled off to a armor junkyard to await the cutting torches.

[@whyyoumadbro2370]

@@billwilson3609 Why didn't they like it though?

[@billwilson3609]

@@whyyoumadbro2370 The US Army had the M6 heavy tank in 1942 but decided they didn't need one for the type of fighting they planned to do. Ordnance began designing a replacement for the M4 in 1942 and had the T25 heavy medium ready for testing in 1943. Congress was worried about being re-elected in 1944 due to the Press having the voters worked up over the German Tigers and Panthers so ordered the T25 to be converted into a heavy tank and in battle before the 1944 Fall elections. There were delays so the M26 didn't start being assembled until November of '44 with Congress ordering the first 20 made to be shipped to Europe ASAP. There were more delays so the first 20 arrived in Antwerp in February of 1945 where the Army refused to use them since none had been tested nor came with trained crews, mechanics or spare parts. The Armor commanders relented in March to get Ike out of hot water and accepted two each to try out. They found them to be too slow to keep up with advancing units, required a barge to be taken across rivers and had frequent mechanical problems. The Super Pershing weighed even more so most commanders figured it would spend most of it's time being repaired due to trying to keep up with the now rapidly advancing units.

[@danielrose8955]

@@billwilson3609 where did you hear that it was knocked out? Ive done quite a bit of research on this tank (there really isn’t much out there) and I’ve never heard of it getting knocked out by a Pzr IV

[@Riimaachan]

That moment when you realise not a single king tiger was destroyed frontaly during ww2 and most were self destructed after running out of ammo and fuel

[@thecanadiankiwibirb4512]

Or got their cheeks clapped like at Lvov

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

A number of them were disabled, even if by side hits or spalling (or in the case of one currently on display at La Gleize, the gun barrel being partially blown off).

[@packardexelence]

& THEY WERE A BIT TOO HEAVY FOR THEIR MAYBACH ENGINES; CAUSEING PREMAURE BREAKDOWNS!!!!!!!!

[@Attaxalotl]

wait WHAT

[@pittbrat7963]

a lot of them were "killed" or "disabled" (call it what you will) by troops from a short distance who took out vital parts like tracks,etc... and in a city environment(stupid German tactics!) where tanks are useless.

[@frostblght]

I have seen that Super Pershing at the 1st Division Museum, and even got to climb onto the turret. It was a really cool experience.

[@h.cedric8157]

I made a custom RC Model of it.

[@daphydrake7899]

Got both the T26E1-1 and M26E1 in war thunder, love them both! Nice to know that the faster reload on the M26E1 actually makes some sense with the redesigned ammo and gun it got.

[@MarshFlyFightWin]

Never did fight a King Tiger, when they find that what they thought was a King Tiger was a Panzer IV

[@driller7714]

If the turret-less tank in the pic is the one it knocked out, that is indeed a king tiger. Center mounted light, fenders are completely different than any panther, running gear is also different. Furthermore, I can see mistaking a panther for a king tiger but a panzer IV? No sloped armor and looks nothing like a tiger II. More likely mistaken with a tiger I. (Panther Gs did get fitted with late style steel wheels but the tracks did not extend beyond the sponsons and there were no fenders. Rather Schürzen, spaced armor plates were hung from the sides.)

[@MarshFlyFightWin]

@@driller7714 Though the pictured is of a destroyed King Tiger, it isn't the one it's said to have "destroyed". As that's a picture of King Tiger knocked out in the battle of the bulge, and the supposed one it knocked out was climbing a pile of rubble when the tank was knocked out. Not on the side of the road.

[@justinkedgetor5949]

It could have just been a mistake in the heat of the moment. I dont see it as a big deal

[@KorianHUN]

Imagine being a panzer IV at the end of the war and seeing this monstrosity made out of half a panther and tons of boilerplate, with random shit added to it towering over you with a massively overpowered gun... yeah, that Panzer IV got fucking vaporized.

[@stackertheeod7566]

@@KorianHUN I fucking cackled

[@galesams4205]

used the m60 tank in vietnam with 90mm canaster VERY BIG shotgun, worked good in heavy jungle or out to 400- hunderd yards. the sheriands tank 120mm had not arrived yet in my div. i liked the 90mm HE. with a range of over 2600 yards 10th armor 4th div. 1969.

[@gregbrown6793]

M48?

[@bill5982]

The M60 never mounted a 90mm gun and the Sheridan had a 152mm.

[@theonlylechuga]

what in the stolen valor are you talking about?

[@troutwarrior6735]

"Jesus! It's a god*mn Tiger!" Every American tanker in ww2

[@k-874]

British Crews: "Huh, shocker..." "Yes... That really is unfortunate, considering how few we're actually made..."

[@chadjustice8560]

Not really because they only have 3 recorded encounters with tiger 1 and sherman's beat them every time only the pershing lost

[@troutwarrior6735]

@@k-874 I see someone has been watching some squire! Yessssssss. . .

[@Del_S]

@@chadjustice8560 I think he's more joking about the fact that every single model of German tank and most self-propelled guns got reported as a Tiger at some point or another by troops who hadn't paid attention to any tank recognition cards they'd been shown. If they'd been shown any in the first place.

[@k-874]

@@troutwarrior6735 I wasn't expecting anyone to understand the reference but this is a surprise to be sure and a welcome one!

[@smiesznywalenty658]

When you see this tank from the side: lóóóóóóóóóng

[@nickc.g5301]

Me: *Gets killed in Tiger by Super Pershing* Me taking Stuka for revenge kill: REEEEEEEEEEE

[@Ohnothetowers]

Im asuming ur talking ahout war thunder

[@nickc.g5301]

@@MaliqIbrahim-1306 *Spawns in 109 G-10: Hello

[@lonelyguy688]

@@nickc.g5301 spawns in P-51D mustang:So u have chosen death?

[@judahboyd2107]

@@MaliqIbrahim-1306 This is how German 5.7 feels. Your cas has no dogfighting capabilities.

[@nickc.g5301]

@@lonelyguy688 *Laughs even harder*

[@joshklem7293]

There is one other Super Pershing on display that I know of. It is at Camp Shelby’s Armed Forces Museum in Mississippi. It is on static display, and I have seen it multiple times.

[@donwood2728]

I find it funny this story popped up on my feed. My grandfather served in Spearhead 3rd armored div and was involved in that project. I remember he said they welded chunks of railroad rails to the back of the turret to try and balance the turret out. Because of the size of the shells many of the tank crews first thought it was a naval gun that had been mounted on a tank.

[@mcedd54]

"Another River, Another Town: A Teenage Tank Gunner Comes of Age in Combat--1945" by John P. Irwin. Irwin, the gunner on the Super Pershing, recounts his actions in the battle for Dassau in his above mentioned book. He was in I Company 3/33 Armored Regiment. His encounter with the 'King Tiger' was in urban street conditions and at very close range. He was able to fire first striking the enemy tank but the 90mm round was deflected by the Tiger's frontal armor. This to me discounts any possibility of the German tank being mistaken for a Mark 4 as the Super Pershing's main gun would have easily taken it out at any angle. It's possible it was a Panther but again its sloped 80mm frontal armor at the range of this engagement should have been a fairly easy kill as well. Next, the 'King Tiger' fired but missed with its round being too high. The Tiger continued to move forward and as it did had to traverse an incline caused by street ruble. In doing so it exposed its belly to Irwin who fired again, striking the King Tiger in the gut which killed it instantly. Trusting German records found after the war to check their disposition and location of specific units is dubious at best. In the fog of war anything is possible and a King Tiger being in the battle for Dassau seems plausible to me. I trust the Super Pershing crew's recollections as to what transpired over any after actions reviews by personnel who were most likely not even evolved in the battle for Dassau. 3rd Armored Division Spearhead!

[@chadjustice8560]

So you don't trust the German reports that state no king tiger was with in 50-60 miles of there? It was a king tiger because none were even close.

[@mcedd54]

@@chadjustice8560 ; "So you don't trust the German reports that state no king tiger was with in 50-60 miles of there?" Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. At this point in the war the Germans had very few means to conduct the war let alone keep accurate track of it. I lived in Germany for five years in the 1980's, while serving as a tanker in the 3rd Armored Division, and discussed this very subject with quite a few German combat vets. To a man they relayed that whatever units they were assigned to were terribly supplied and disorganized even at company level. Every German soldier, sailor and airman was given a rifle and formed into emergency stop-gap units to delay the Brits, Canadians and Americans. Any running stray or repaired armored vehicles would have been commandeered by local commanders and placed into service. So yes, there is a good chance a Tiger II could have been in Dassau Chad. And yes, I believe John P. Irwin and his crewmates as well. So should you.

[@allandavis8201]

I came across your channel by chance, and I am glad that I did, I am an aircraft fan for the most-part but I do occasionally take a trip into the world of armour, I think your narration and visuals are excellent, and thanks for another interesting and informative mini-documentary, may there be many many more to come. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@frisho2190]

Wasn't death traps the book that popularized the wrong idea of shermans being the well.... Death traps?

[@monticore1626]

Yes it is, if shermans were death traps then their crew survival rates would show it

[@frisho2190]

@@monticore1626 yea how low was death rate ? 2 or 3%?

[@kaymarx9677]

@DAS ist gut So not really special one way or the other? (Until the upgrades, I mean.)

[@Vlad_-_-_]

@DAS ist gut It was on par with all the other tanks to begin with, with the wet stowage and large escape hatches it becamse statistically the most survivable tank of the war. Statistically, the safest place to be in WW2, was in a Sherman.

[@frisho2190]

@DAS ist gut I know yet that still doesn't make it death trap. Because then every tank can be considered death trap and tank crews hade on of best survival rates ~3% death rate.

[@greenthumb6875]

You don’t steal parts from other equipment, it’s called “Controlled Substitution “ anything other than that is cannibalism and that’s a section eight discharge for the maintenance officer...

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

There's many historians who speculate that a tiger 1 was actually on a train near the area that this happened, that could have been hastily used in a battle if someone were so inclined. Not a king tiger, but still, it's possible

[@sgtmyers88]

The good thing about these Pershing tank modifications is it paved the way for the Patton series tanks and eventually the M60 and M103.

[@daddust]

The 17lb that the Brits, Canadians and Poles were using in Firefly/Archer and stat AT had double the armour penetration of the long 88, when using SaBOT ammo. The 88 wasnt the end all.

[@adriandumitrascu4292]

who needed sabot, long 88 with explosive filler penetrate everything ally had dealing massive damage inside the tank compared with sabot and apcr

[@51515123]

Thank You for this! The Belton Cooper reference was awesome.

[@franklind.roosevelt7416]

So you’re telling me in real life the cannon could go through a panthers upper plate at 2600 yards? In war thunder it can’t do it past 800, they really nerfed the crap out of that.

[@jukosdainamikos4050]

no panther is only better reallive than a pershing ore super pershing ever can be....1Shot for every lategerman tank in real live

[@maxoutput01]

Theres a Super Pershing in a scrap yard in North Africa. I saw it a few years ago when I was watching a video about to guys looking for a Sherman to restore

[@allankay12]

In all your videos during intro after you say "my name is cone of arc" I always think of "my name is Joan of arc." anyone else?

[@giorgiogalliano05]

Nope only you

[@allankay12]

@@giorgiogalliano05 shows my age now huh?

[@Mr762308]

allan kay Well hopefully cone of arc doesn't get burned at the stake like ole Joan did.

[@allankay12]

@@Mr762308 lol. That's funny

[@combatantezoteric2965]

What does his name even mean?

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

I love how the modified Super Pershing, it looks rugged but sleek at the same time

[@nitsu2947]

one might wonder how a Super Pershing reached Dessau, its because the long edge of the gun reached the town first before the whole tank

[@mountainguyed67]

Lol!

[@80Loke]

🤭

[@tejaskulkarni996]

0:40 Bob semple!!!!!!!!!- the un beatable tank , how dare you say it is weak , it has... A Gun ..... What more do you need?

[@kvproductions2581]

"king tiger killer" killed no king tigers also imagine if this thig was mass-produced and german tank anti-tank crews were just instructed to aim for the almost unarmored spring, thus making to gun go limp, that'd be hilarious

[@aeromexico0015]

Only a few where made how coot kill a tiger if only a few where made

[@kvproductions2581]

@@aeromexico0015 then it's not a king tiger killer that's like if i told you "hey bro, i'm a terrorist killer" and you said "but you haven't killed any terrorists" and i replied "Well there's only one of me and i've never met one"

[@dhwwiiexpert]

Never have I thought making a gun go flaccid would ever be a legitimate strategy.

[@kvproductions2581]

@@dhwwiiexpert tank erectile dysfunction

[@alp7292]

​@@kvproductions2581sherman rammed a tiger II lol wehraboo

[@brotschander]

"Super Pershing vs King Tiger" Now that can be a good title for a Romantic movie with that "fight king to love a woman" rule.

[@thomaslinton5765]

So how many TIger B's did the "Super Pershing" knock out. None. What a KILLER!

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

What wasn't discussed was how much more effective the projectiles would be against the Tiger B's plates than the M3 projectiles.

[@657449]

I was in a M48 tank when I was in Vietnam in 1969. I once noted the date on a box of the 90 mm ammo, 1944.

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

Interesting that they made the M36/M41 backward compatible with the M3's ammunition, something the Chieftain pointed out with his piece on the M47.

[@shadowtrooper262]

i can imagine historians thousands of years later saying that the duel between the Tiger ii and Super Pershing was a legend. 😂

[@suhzewkie]

It really does suck that the last Super Pershing was scrapped It would be really amazing to see such a design in the present day The Super Pershing was and is my favorite tank which is sad because it does not exist anymore

[@Snookynibbles]

The Super Pershing was more of a proof-of-concept tank that actually had more flaws than benefits. For one, the gun was too heavy for the chassis for practical elevating & traversing. The tank had heavy, ad-hoc frontal armor that coupled with the heavy gun meant the tank was rather slow.

[@Vlad_-_-_]

Soviet Union Tiger II killers : ISU 152 and IS2. But US Pershings and experimental heavy tanks are fascinating machines. Imagine a T30 with 150mm HE wrecking king tigers.

[@fuckoff4705]

i disagree, the t30 with a 150mm was an impractical tank, by that time the soviet union had the is3 which is just a better tank and more practical

[@Vlad_-_-_]

@@fuckoff4705 If they would polish out all the flaws and make it a reliable machine, it's gun would be devastating to even a Jtiger. But historically, I agree, the T30 was not deemed good for mass production for good reasons, same as T29, T34 or T32. My mistake, I should have pointed that out. The T30 was experimental, the Super Pershing was maybe in a similar situation I think.

[@jbeverley67]

@@fuckoff4705 that's saying alot cause the is3 was absolutely garbage

[@Vlad_-_-_]

@@jbeverley67 And of course you can prove this, because your biased opinion doesn't cut it.

[@ConeOfArc]

The is3 was indeed a fairly bad tank. It was unreliable and although the armor in theory was effective due to issues with the design it was considerably weaker than it should have been. It accomplished the goal of intimidation but removing any bias one way or another it was a flawed machine.

[@wookievr641]

Every couple years I go check out the Korean and E4 sitting at that park. It’s a nice walking area and number of tanks on display for people to enjoy.

[@donaldhysa4836]

Yeah the Superpershing could have been very powerful we know that cause we welded some pieces of Panther armor plate on it somewhere in a garage in Europe lol

[@shanechambers9529]

its really about the gun mostly

[@donaldhysa4836]

@@shanechambers9529 I am sure they could have made better use of the gun that to strap in that awkward heavy tank contraption they came up with

[@richardconnor2871]

That's cool.... in the opening shots with the tank rolling backwards, the machine gun mounted on top looks like a GIANT raven.

[@brianjohnson5272]

1:55 to skip the shill.

[@finalchapter24k]

That glacius plate with the "side wings" looks absolutely badass.

[@ussneworleans7490]

First time time i seen this tank was the show greatest tank battles the fight was a tiger 2 vs m26 super pershing

[@nevanramirez8287]

"Battle of Germany"

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

Using a destroyed Panther for additional armor is metal as fuck. Like that's some Battletech shit right there

[@z4zac05]

Ive seen the one in Illinois! My grandpa would take me every year before covid happend

[@iltonwhite]

The Pershing never met the King Tiger! However it did meet a Tiger I and was despatched by said Tiger, it did however meet a Panther in Cologne and killed it, luckily for the Pershing he was front facing the Panther's flank. A Pershing was however killed by an inferior Nashorn. The trouble with US tank crews was they usually claimed every German tank they met were Tiger I's or II's, when in reality they were meeting Panzer IV's.

[@vincnetjones3037]

There was only 20 x Pershing used in WW2 and even less at 2 x Super Pershing used...Their value seems to be over estimated.

[@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo]

I disagree, at least with the Pershing. It didn't see much use in WW2, but it was critically important in the Korean War. And in every encounter it proved to be far superior to the T34/85 that the NKPA were using at the time. In fact it was so superior, the T34's were able to knock out 6 Pershings, but in return the Pershings knocked out 38 T34's. This was far superior to the performance of the Shermans, and the performance of the M46 Patton was horrible. The Pershing really was quite a good tank, unlike it's weirdly suped up Super Pershing Cousin that never really had any use haha.

[@ku_rt3630]

tbh the Pershing tank is incredibly important at the battle of cologne, it killed a Panther that was sniping shermans, the only reason probably it wasnt mass produced is its expensive and cost too much recourses (i think)

[@virgilfranken873]

Your intro is worth a spot on history channel

[@caro7048]

3:34 Imagine if this was implemented into War Thunder; if you shoot the springs, the gun would not be able to elevate...

[@MrPanzerCatYT]

I think it was recently

[@ryansoule8934]

I’ve seen the one at Cantigny, had no idea it was the only one left

[@Tk3997]

As an aside I've always doubted they used boiler plate. The thickness is the big clue the rolled hull M4 Sherman just so happens to have completely flat sides... 38mm thick. So they supposedly carved up a panther for the turret applique, but then just happened to find and use random boiler plate of the exact same thickness as the slab sides of an M4 Sherman to use on the front hull? It's seems even less probable because we know for a fact this exact sort of modification where the flat side armor of knocked out Sherman's was cut up and placed onto the front slope of others was one of the most common methods of creating 'field expedient' Jumbos. Given all the lies and other bullshit the man in question put in the aforementioned book he wrote I don't trust him all that much as a source.

[@erwin669]

When Cone mentioned Belton Cooper my first response "ugh that guy". If he would have said he salvaged the armor off a Sherman to up armor the Pershing it would have brought his "Sherman was a deathtrap" story into question. Why would you use "inferior" armor to protect the Pershing?

[@billwilson3609]

@@erwin669 Why did they even bother to up-armor the Pershing in the first place? Because Belton Cooper got to look at the other Pershings that were knocked out by 75mm and 88mm rounds. The Army didn't like the Pershing so didn't care if the Super Pershing saw combat as-is or up-armored. Cooper complained about the US tanks' thin armor thru out the war so they allowed him to add armor to the Super Pershing to shut him up. That tank was knocked out by a 75mm round that penetrated the side of the hull so was hauled to a scrap yard instead of being repaired.

[@erwin669]

@@billwilson3609 The first was a side shot from a Tiger at under 100 yards. The vehicle was recovered and repaired. A Pershing, from the 9th Armored, was disabled due to artillery fire, it was also recovered and repaired. The only Pershing that wasn’t able to be repaired was hit by a Nashorn at 300m, the crew survived. Cooper didn’t order the one Super Pershing to be upadmored; that was Major Harrington. And that appears to have been done before the normal Pershings saw combat. Cooper’s memoir should be taken with a huge grain of salt as it doesn’t mesh with data from other primary sources and is criticized by many historians. Being written 50 years after the fact doesn’t help it either.

[@billwilson3609]

@@erwin669 The first 20 M26's that came off the assembly line arrived in Antwerp in January without trained crews and mechanics. The Army refused to use them until February to get Ike out of hot water so those probably had crews and mechanics going thru a crash course over their operation and repair. The Super Pershing arrived in late March after the first 20 had been divided up amongst the armor units in February so those had seen limited action by then. The GI's didn't consider the M26 to be very useful since it had to travel at a low speed to prevent damage to the transmission so was kept at the end of advancing columns and called up when needed. They said it could take 20 to 30 minutes for one to arrive so the threat often had been dealt with by other means when it did. Major Harrington commanded the armor repair shops and Cooper was his liaison officer that delivered oral and written reports to the HQ brass. Cooper had been complaining for years about the thin armor on US tanks to anyone that would listen so HQ probably had enough of him and told Harrington to allow Cooper to up-armor the T26E4 to show him it was easier said than done. The Army didn't want the T26E4 either so didn't care if Cooper's added armor ruined the engine and transmission that already had problems moving the standard M26.

[@h.cedric8157]

Watching this while I play around with my custom made Super Pershing 1:16 RC tank

[@squashemdead3374]

When you've been on one before and didn't even realize it was the Super pershing :)

[@timorthelame1]

People speak of the King Tiger as though it was something that required a design to counter it. In fact, only around 500 King Tigers were ever produced and many of them broke down before reaching the battlefield. When you consider the amount of resources and man hours involved in the production of the King Tiger, it hurt the German cause more than it helped. ...So much for wunder weapons.

[@OtterTreySSArmy]

The KT's 60% operational reliability does kind of poke a hole in that theory. It was only like 4% lower than the Sherman and almost 20% higher than the Panther. In the waning days of the war, KTs did indeed receive the manufacturing focus as they solved almost all of the issues that Panther had. You heard that right, King Tiger was actually a pretty reliable vehicle. The transmission issues that plagued Tiger I and Panther were fixed on King Tiger. The engine issues were also mostly solved on KT, which is evident due to its higher speed than Tiger I, despite being significantly heavier. The roadwheels also weren't interleaved like Panther and Tiger were either, so that meant that it was significantly easier to work on the torsion bars should it be necessary. Be kind to the King Tiger, she tried her best.

[@billwilson3609]

@@OtterTreySSArmy Many were reliable because they were never used. They would arrive on flatcars with little fuel in their tanks since a following train carried their ammo and gasoline. The trains with gasoline were often hijacked by other army units desperate for fuel so would arrive with empty tank cars. The tanks were unloaded and parked until more fuel arrived, which didn't happen in many cases.

[@dontran391]

Had WWII prolonged a bit past 1945, we might see more clashes between the American Pershing vs. the German King Tiger. We might even see the Germans introduce that prototype: Lowe Tank (aka. Lion Tank, the evolved form of the King Tiger). Of course, maybe even the Maus tank too.

[@norwegian_noisemaker6737]

Don’t forget IS-3 and IS-4, T29, T30, T34, and of course the Centurion

[@fiery_gamerz]

@@norwegian_noisemaker6737 Maybe the IS7 too?

[@norwegian_noisemaker6737]

@@fiery_gamerz yeah

[@BillieBobBrubeck]

Unfortunately, of all the veterans I have spoken with Belton Cooper could not corroborate what he had just written in his book. He had two book signings in Huntsville Alabama. I went to one. He spoke on a lot of things much of what was not in his book. On the History Channel in many interviews, he comes off as a tanker. Later we find out he is only an ordnance officer (no offense). During the first book signing, he wouldn't answer questions on the Super Pershing. The next signing he claimed they fired at and hit a King Tiger but didn't want to check it out in case they missed. His son saw me, came over, asked me to leave, and out I went.

[@brennanleadbetter9708]

What do yo think was going on?

[@BillieBobBrubeck]

Belton supposedly had unset dementia. They didn't want to tax him to much and wanted him to answer simple questions. My son has did as much investigation into this as I have and he believes the gunner of the Super Pershing. You would think that they would have taken pictures of it in combat like they did with the Pershings.

[@GhostOfReachB312]

T26 Pershing: * slowly rubbing tank hands on tigers engine * T26 Pershing: "I am coming for you tiger"

[@tobiaszistler]

-M24 Shoots- (Recusches of the front 150mm angled front plate ) King Tiger laughing and says : "I think you didnt heared the Boss Music Mr Pershing,,

[@daoklahoma3737]

They are live in Illinois actually been there it was quite nice that purging was all rusty at the time though they repainted it went out after I left evedetly

[@shatteredskies8292]

Ayyy my favorite tank to play

[@tugalord]

Mine too All round good frontal armour and great gun, also reverse speed is very handy when that damm gun barrel or elevation mechanism breaks for the millionth time

[@robgee7788]

This earned my subscription. Well done!

[@tvexpert_xd2388]

Pls make a vid to the t44 medium tank from the soviets I wud me interest

[@AC_WILDCARD]

We have a nice T26E1 at the 45th museum in OKC. Its pretty cool!

[@xxmedalofhonorxx6744]

Sad thing the only Super Pershing never destroyed a King Tiger cause they found out it was a Panzer IV lul

[@dunruden9720]

nerver desrtoyed??

[@xxmedalofhonorxx6744]

@@dunruden9720 Thx for the correction

[@soldiermark9059]

@@xxmedalofhonorxx6744 umm plsss change your profile name

[@xxmedalofhonorxx6744]

@@soldiermark9059 Why sould I? Because i dont support American false reports?

[@xxmedalofhonorxx6744]

@@soldiermark9059 Maybe you should delete you whole Account or at least all of your scary bad quality videos

[@neku9837]

Finally I know what those big ole cylinders at the top of the turret were for.

[@rubberwoody]

Using the sponsor to get over 10 minutes is youtube optimization

[@billballbuster7186]

General Lesley McNair, Commander US Army Ground Forces, stuck to his doctrine that only Tank Destroyers should engage enemy tanks. As a result American tanks were under-armed for most of the war and more powerful tank designs were axed. The M-26 Pershing was also due to be cancelled, but luckily McNair was killed in Normandy by an American bomb. His successor had more sense and revived the M-26 but few took part in the war. The Super-Pershing never worked and was cancelled Post War.

[@johnynuke3310]

How is it a king tiger killer if it never killed a king tiger?

[@calessel3139]

Shhhhhh!!! You're not supposed to point things like that out.

[@aeromexico0015]

It was ment to

[@bruney74]

I know it was just the ad, but this is a pet peeve of mine. "Up to 36 hours or longer", literally means any arbitrary amount of time.

[@sharkbait4653]

Ah yes a balanced tier 8 premium medium tank

[@tugalord]

In Wt it's a researchable tier 4 Br:6.3

[@cristobalalvarez5491]

@@tugalord your stupid if you didn't get the joke

[@gofergofrunio6281]

WOT moment

[@tugalord]

@@cristobalalvarez5491 I got it in Wot its broken

[@Gullyrats]

Good info on the HOBBYBOSS T26E4 #1 Pilot I’m building 1/35 scale

[@spythor1281]

Hetzer would be a good tank to cover due to it being a tiny deathbox

[@donaldhysa4836]

How was it a tiny deathbox? Cause Lindybeige said so?

[@crabbyjungle5670]

How is it a tiny deathbox?

[@donaldhysa4836]

@@crabbyjungle5670 Cause Lindybeige said so pay attention

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

Lindybeige presented nothing but options in that video. He was completely wrong. The Hetzer was actually really effective.

[@user-dd8vo7or2d]

@@Kyle-gw6qp No it was not. It was hastily designed and much of its systems were unreliable.

[@M3rcanSoldi3r856]

thanks for the video man, i cannot express enough how much i love the pershing

[@spacejamsham2440]

Imagine thinking Sherman’s were death traps

[@randyjohnson6845]

In the parking area beside the uss Alabama there several tanks...two are some of my favorites..one is the T 34 and my favorite is the M 26 Pershing..the signs say don't touch but I don't remember getting arrested...a ww 2submarine a T 34 a M 26 and a battle ship..that's a perfect way to spend a day....and they have several ww 2 airplanes

[@potatojuice5124]

Noooo it’s in 10 hours!

[@hilldwler420]

“ gentlemen, I give you cologne..... now let’s knock the hell out of it!!!” Love that quote

[@belgianfried]

so… anti-anti tank

[@katout75]

A video on the MBT70 would be good topic

[@hochmeisterr]

Weehrabos Malding In the comments

[@hilmansudirman9857]

I really just know that the 2 "looks like observation device" on top of my Super Pershing is actually springs to elevate the gun. I really miss those days when Wargaming still consider those as weakspot and Super Pershing don't get hull nerf (I Play in ASIA so can't really play Warthunder because no one plays it in SA server).

[@TehButterflyEffect]

Since they finally un-nerfed the Super P it's actually quite good again. Except that spaced armor doesn't exist anymore, so it lost its best advantage. But the gun works good and it's much more mobile now.

[@sen5466]

Oh, youtube now has trailers.

[@donfrandsen7778]

Loved this beast!! Great video!!

[@timwolgast9906]

Well how many Tigers did it kill?

[@DarkMatterX1]

632

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

It was designed to match the firepower of the KwK 43, even if it arrived too late for serious combat.

[@hibiki9380]

@@r.j.dunnill1465 it wasn't enough apparently, good thing the Germans was out of resources and flanked on many sides.

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

@@hibiki9380 Wasn't enough? Even the M3 (with M304 HVAP) could defeat all plates of the Tiger II, albeit the glacis only at dangerously close range.

[@r.j.dunnill1465]

@@hibiki9380 The problem of defeating, at long ranges, 150mm of RHA angled at 50 degrees would first be solved with HEAT and then with APFSDS.

[@CupCakeClan420]

Along with a Pershing being in Illinois, I also think there is one in Alabama at the uss Alabama museum. I took a picture when I wasn’t as interested and I was looking back on them, and I think it is a Pershing.

[@themuckler8176]

They have an M-26 in Mobile...not a Super

[@Bruhsound4.0]

Imagine if these things came in like 1943, it would be over quickly

[@kimjanek646]

Imagine T-54s been out in 1941, it would be over quickly 😏

[@Bruhsound4.0]

@@kimjanek646 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@kimjanek646]

@@Bruhsound4.0 xD

[@Bruhsound4.0]

@@kimjanek646 (¬_¬") i talk in kaoemoji's

[@kimjanek646]

@@Bruhsound4.0 ^_^

[@MarkyBoyle]

That's why those tubes are mounted on the turret! I didn't know that

[@khahinmetameta7826]

The super pershing wasn't cursed just politics got in the way. Could have killed the IS 2 and ISU 152

[@the_victorious_1]

Yeah but the regular Pershing could, especially using HVAP. The super wouldn't have been enough of an upgrade to be worthwhile, unless it was somehow able to kill the IS3 which I'm not sure about tbh.

[@Aspir3xx]

The engine was also in adequate for it's extra weight

[@kayagorzan]

Reliability issues

[@tugalord]

@@the_victorious_1 I think it could kill the IS4 (when hitting the driver's escape hatch and viewport.)

[@retardcorpsman]

But do you really think the US would even field several of this at once even if they had the resources too?! Its overkill!

[@PanaviaTornadoEnjoyer]

I Love How At 8:44 He used War Thunders Picture Of The Pershing Lol or is that just me..?