America's shrinking population: Economic impact of falling U.S. birth rate

[@blafonovision4342]

Wolves are crying that the sheep won’t reproduce.

[@Varba9]

Corporate execs worried their profit margins will fall if there aren’t enough people to buy their products. 🤦‍♀️

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

​@@Varba9and they might have to compete for labor in the future.

[@Akira282]

LOLSSS

[@johnnykidblue]

The sad thing is, the kids bring you joy. The job doesn’t. We all got stuck with the job and no kids.🤨

[@LucareonVee]

@@johnnykidblue Kids don’t bring everyone joy. 😋

[@AO-kr9kd]

Housing shortage, underpaid jobs that require a degree, high gas and groceries, long commute times, education budget cuts, expensive childcare. Why dont ppl want more kids?! 🙄

[@kinglyone7172]

Housing shortage? Cities like Detroit would disagree. Plenty of empty homes exist it's just that they are now old and need repairs. Then again people who live in big cities who live in their 5 mile bubble only see high rises and sit in traffic all day. They don't see the empty neighborhoods, school closings due to population, or see the medical industry and other services constantly short handed.

[@yoleeisbored]

Student loan debt too

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

​@@kinglyone7172 How easy it is to get a decent paying job in Detroit? 😅

[@LordBuckhouse]

LOL !!!! People were getting married and having lots of kids even during the Great Depression. You BS doesn’t hold water. Snot nose elitist women today think they’re too good for most men.

[@dannavalentin46]

I have a feeling ur being sarcastic abt it and hopefully u are lol

[@kimnenninger7226]

As a working class American i say that this is NOT a problem for the working person. This is a problem for the rich who want the lower classs to suppy slaves. The billionaires have made the working man's life a living hell in the United States. Wages are ridiculously low, housing is out of reach for working people, and food prices are too high for a working parent. Stop worrying about what some stressed out billionaire thinks that you should do and do what is best for you!

[@Silver77cyn]

Well said.

[@mamabar6811]

Good thought but the question to ask yourself is, would you rather have Americans taking the jobs or African immigrants brought in for low wages? That’s what’s going on in Europe. There will always be a ruling class. That will never change.

[@antinatalistwitch111]

​@@mamabar6811the faster we can get out of herethe better

[@leona6993]

Politicians make it damn near unbearable to live here. Who wants to add kids to that??

[@shaymalchione809]

If you aren’t born into money life is nothing but a struggle.

[@johnboy6594]

@@shaymalchione809Agreed..

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

It’s not just politicians to blame, it’s all of us. We have to start taking responsibility for the world we find ourselves in, all of us.

[@purplered-eq5of]

Fax

[@Ihavehadmanynames7779]

The culture and everything. They have only themselves to blame. We had our lotr and star wars movies everyone was happy passionate. It was a collective push from their end and they know exactly what they did they poked the bear and now theyre tripping in their own shoe laces. These are the kind of rocket scientists we all having to deal with

[@JJs_playground]

People can't even afford a car, let alone a house. How are they going to afford a kid(s)? Also, there's been a societal shift about having children. It's not the most important thing in people's lives anymore.

[@skylinefever]

Someone will argue "People in unsanitary mud huts have 5 kids" while forgetting that at least those people profited off the kids.

[@sunshine69962]

that societal shift is sad, literally denying your human nature.

[@skylinefever]

@@sunshine69962 Before contraception and abortion, infant exposure was a thing, too. Human nature isn't just a bunch of unicorns farting out rainbows.

[@GarzaB]

You nailed it: it’s not the most important thing in people’s lives anymore

[@SoulControlla99]

@@sunshine69962 It's human nature to murder other humans for resources. We deny our human nature all the time.

[@breadfan9]

People cant even afford to buy a house. How the hell are they going to afford kids?????

[@Matti_us_Alpe]

100 years ago was not better and people still had children.

[@Lupine.]

​@@Matti_us_Alpe 100 years ago there wasn't contraception and a single income per household was the norm...

[@spaceballs44]

Health insurance, food, car, just living is to expensive.

[@2596mr]

@@Matti_us_Alpe buddy go read any data. about cost of education vs salary rise. what oldage home are you from? the previous generation has been greedy. made reforms that benefitted them. had financial crisis passed on to the next gen without any major banks facing issues.

[@marengoczar5035]

​@Matti_us_Alpe they didn't have options, so they just had kids and most of the kids died, so it was a wash. Only, after the increase use of vaccines and other things did the actual population increased. Also, you would be arrested or lose your kids if you have 10 kids in 1 bedroom shack with no lights or water.

[@Luckywave268]

Pretty simple, cost of living is way too high. They've squeezed every last drop out of the middle class, now they want them to have more kids to keep the house of cards going.

[@firstlast8258]

Bidenomics

[@Luckywave268]

@firstlast8258 Been happening long before Biden I'm afraid.

[@basicfilmblog]

​@@firstlast8258what utter drivel. This has been going on decades and decades.

[@repboy1]

People are referred to as a workforce lol . To make rich people richer

[@johnnykidblue]

Guess they gotta figure out how to put all these dogs to work. Nobody seems to mind having dogs.

[@retrodripsupport7510]

And you are referred to as "the consumer" -- that phrase is probably said 100x a day on CNBC

[@amandawatkins4447]

That’s why we have social security numbers. As soon as we’re born we’re slaves to the government

[@katherines144]

Remember during COVID when the politicians were calling us "human capital stock"??

[@skylinefever]

@@katherines144 It's why corporations came up the the human resource department.

[@mitchelljamerson706]

Something isn't adding up about this narrative and explanation when you have a poor working class but you need more people! TO DO WHAT? BE POOR!

[@alyssaoconnor]

Yes exactly, they don’t care that the children will be brought up in poverty because they want low educated and desperate people they can then take advantage of. Poor and desperate people are easy to control and manipulate.

[@dannavalentin46]

@@mitchelljamerson706 yep

[@dannavalentin46]

@@alyssaoconnor well said

[@MeMe-ht2hd]

Brilliant thinking on you and @alyssaoconnor. That's exactly right. The people we think about little of in society we need to do jobs that others don't want.

[@WalkerOne]

What is the point of having children if you're going to pay someone else to raise them?

[@purplered-eq5of]

Bruh fax

[@edheldude]

Why would you organize your life in that way then? Why follow somebody else's plan?

[@marcbastien6142]

Whats the point of bringing life to a world that is 🗑

[@jasonhertzberg4818]

Literally. “Oh let me create someone who will work a job they hate for 50 years”

[@skylinefever]

I was ripped out of perfect nonexistence without my consent and respect the consent of others.

[@paodbdauw]

@@jasonhertzberg4818 ikr. it's pure disgusting. those idiotic parents.

[@shaymalchione809]

If you aren’t born into money this life is just misery.

[@weho_brian]

poor people have no problem with doing this

[@SkeeterMcTavish]

Unaffordable for people who didn't have mommy and daddy buy them a car and a down payment on a house.

[@Kartzchen]

For sure. It would have been nice to had any kind of help.

[@firstlast8258]

Small loan of a million dollars

[@nomimims3408]

Preach Baby

[@edheldude]

The more people have money the fewer children they have. In countries where people are making less than $5000 per year they have the most amount of children.

[@PhoneTest-vf3gv]

​@@edheldudebecause poor people see kids as a means to take care of them in old age or hope that kids will fulfill their unfulfilled dreams and earn for them.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

Maybe you shouldn't have created artificial shortages in housing to inflate property values while having wages stagnate below inflation.

[@skylinefever]

The corpos need even more people fighting over even fewer scraps.

[@josecastillo-ne4ue]

“We” aren’t worried about our economic dynamics… companies are worried about their workforce… society is gonna be just fine

[@johnnykidblue]

Society WILL be fine… …as long as the workforce shortage doesn’t affect the dog breeding industry.

[@domcizek]

SORRY WRONG, YOU LIVING STANDARD WILL GO WAY DOWN , WITH NO PEOPLE TO WORK, WHO WILL PAY INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE SYSTEM WITH ALL THE OLD PEOPLE LEFT ON THE EARTH, HUMANS WILL JUST GO WAY OF THE DODO BIRD

[@wussrestbrook1200]

Please move to japan then bud!

[@johnnykidblue]

I happen to live in Japan. People (except the elderly) are broke, generally not very happy. Fighting for scraps basically. The same story is playing out in other advanced economies, Japan's just a few years ahead.

[@paodbdauw]

@@domcizek Dude, when there's no kids, there's no sufferings. The people being born here have to suffer tremendously from overwhelming inflation, housing crisis due to overpopulation.

[@t1202j]

It’s hard to raise a family from your parents basement

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

Even harder if your a sub5 incel

[@bsbdptsd]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 Calling people names does not change the outcome or solve the issue in any way lol

[@purplered-eq5of]

Fax

[@purplered-eq5of]

​@bsbdptsd fax

[@SoulControlla99]

It's hard to afford a child when you can't even afford rent. Over the last 20 years, my rent has never been below 50% of my salary. The costs are just insane.

[@hugoespinal6885]

Government should stop over taxing the middle class,

[@DavidB.Fischer]

Yep

[@7knightsoftheround]

Yeah, but that’s not going to help much. They should tax large corporations at 70-90% like they did in the 50s when the country was most prosperous.

[@patrickm6012]

@@7knightsoftheroundthe corporate tax rate in the 50s was closer to 50%.. but I agree it needs to be raised and remove loopholes.

[@kr0nz]

They need to tax corporations and the top 1% more. that's the only way this system continues on, but corporations and the top 1% have a strangle on everything, because well they have all the money.

[@myretirementexit]

This is the most reasonable comment thus far.

[@chriserony]

Y'all told me not to get pregnant in highschool. Then y'all told me the green house effect would ruin the planet for my children, so I didn't want to make them. I can barely afford anything more than basic living. Don't know if I'll ever be able to own a new car. Now y'all tell me we don't have enough kids.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

It’s b.s. they just make up problems. But they tell us stealing our future with massive payout for the old & a healthcare system that’s a failure that those are not a problem. Also, whoever you are, this is America, I believe in you, you’ll get that next car! Just keep working hard and save money and don’t be attached to that outcome.

[@flickgeek830]

Well when they told everyone not to have kids they couldn't afford, they didn't EVERYONE. Responsibility stops being cool when everyone's responsible.

[@BlackIce675]

Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you hear. If parents waited for everything to be OK, we'd be extinct. Adapt or die.

[@Knowone1mportant]

@@BlackIce675 then we shouldn’t wait for everything to be okay. We should fix it and then worry about having kids. Little hard to fix things when you have responsibilities that you can’t properly handle. Edit: you’re a rude coward who deleted your response to my reply. I hope you can still see this lol. The funny thing is, I WAS still gonna be nice even though you weren’t.

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

Stick to the basic life even if you can afford a new car. Keep riding that Corolla.

[@usuhbi]

This is what happens when both men and women HAVE to work instead of could work to live. I dont even want to have a dog bc i would be neglecting it for 12 hrs a day while at work. Why should i make a dog suffer, let alone a human child.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Feminism and destroying families has become the oligarchs best friend….right next to….Communist Chinese dictatorship. Who would’ve thought evil people band together, it’s not like Hitler had American rich families in his pocket….oh wait.😂

[@skylinefever]

Aaron Clarey said that parents put less thought into creating a human than the childfree put into deciding if they should get a pet. He thought about getting a dog, until he concluded that his job wouldn't give him enough time to properly care for the dog.

[@stoneneils]

Dog walking is (was?) a HUGE business in the big city...75-100k if you are build a good client base..believe it or not. Probably not anymore with remote, you just get your friend who works from home to do it i guess if you don't.

[@DivineLightPaladin]

​@@stoneneilsthat costs money... It's like a second mortgage to hire someone to do something for you regularly

[@stoneneils]

​@@DivineLightPaladin​ Somehow to youtubers everything requires a second mortgage. Stop it.

[@mrcpaddler]

Declining birth rate means happier people, less global warming, less consumption.

[@BDee3126]

And now we have mass-immigration...

[@sebastians783]

Jajajajajaja oh ok, so it's totally understandable and acceptable not to have more kids because we're the sole cause of global warming, so having a depopulation agenda imposed by the UN makes it ok then 🙄

[@MeMe-ht2hd]

Less resources to have to share or war over. Less pollution to our environment. Less cruelty to other humans because of less crime. I agree 💯

[@MrGreen-fi5sg]

Lies. Plus that isn't real. They admitted it.

[@doodle1565]

It’s not the quantity of life, it is the quality of life

[@anhbayar11]

Word

[@edheldude]

Looking at the comments, all the childless people h*te themselves.

[@BillMiller-ob4vh]

Why would you want procreate when you can barely afford to buy the essentials that you need in life.

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

I am so broke I lost interest in intercourse. 😅 Free natural vasectomy for me.

[@edheldude]

Everything will come even more expensive as a result of fewer children.

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

@@edheldude what about using more machines to increase productivity? They are letting more illegals in, so the problem will be solved

[@SunlightsHorizon]

You can literally look at the US's earlier days to show that life only required 1 salary to survive. Now it's a requires a minimum of 2. Why exactly should two people barely surviving have children? This bnb isnt all.about time off. It's about shared profits

[@stevechance150]

Exactly!! When the CEO gets 400 TIMES THE PAY of the people who actually do the work, and when "Shareholder Value" is more important than raises and benefits for the workers who are bringing in the income, you've built a broken system.

[@chriserony]

This is because women started working. Women working put twice the number of workers into the workforce, causing salaries to drop. That's why it now requires 2 people to make the amount 1 person did before for the same job. We need income to increase so we can go back to having single-income (but more equal gendered) households. This insane thing we're doing where families have 2 incomes and pay for full-day care of their child is insane.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@stevechance150 EXACTLY!

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@chriserony Wrong. This is because men started working. Men should have stayed home and women gone off to work. See? Impossible to prove me wrong.

[@tednguyen7258]

not just that alone...over population

[@Febreezy]

when people are just economic numbers

[@johnnykidblue]

When children are just an expense on the balance sheet.

[@skylinefever]

When corporate america commits the worst objectification by treating us as numbers.

[@Lupine.]

Children have become an expensive luxury.

[@tfustudios]

Why do poorer households have larger families?

[@triggered577]

@@tfustudiosBecause they couldn’t gaf less about the conditions they subject children to and have no shame leeching off taxpayers to compensate for their poor values and decisions. If you are above the poverty line, you will actually be held accountable for your reproductive choices. But if you’re poor, the gov just writes you a check.

[@skylinefever]

​@@tfustudiosthey would not if can't feed em don't breed em was the law.

[@Gazer-x5s]

@@tfustudiosit is just a sadistic and evil move!

[@mylesgray3470]

@@triggered577 Completely accurate. My last apartment was $3k a month and there were several stay at home single moms with 3 to 5 kids. How did they afford $3k/month plus 5 kids with no job? Take a guess.

[@michaelleone9931]

My $15 vasectomy at age 28 was THE BEST COST SAVING decision ever in my life.

[@MarkBernadel]

Lol I'm assuming insurance covered that

[@michaelleone9931]

@@MarkBernadel yep!

[@MarcosSantos-dj6lk]

smart man

[@stefaniamoore4641]

There isn't a dollar amount in the world that I wouldn't be willing to give up for my kids. I'm not saying that poverty is fun, but there are more important things in life than money.

[@deebee8825]

Lucky, mine was $600 at age 33 but no insurance. Still was the best $600 I ever spent.

[@MB-xv7er]

I love how they’re pretending they don’t know why birth rates are dropping lmao

[@nikxneon6615]

That's the funny thing: they actually don't. The people who run this world are spineless, brainless morons.

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

Well the real reason should be that In just 50 years humans DOUBLED and killed off 69% of Wildlife

[@edheldude]

They already went below replacement rate 55 years ago and it had nothing to do with economics. The only reason is that ladies don't prioritize it when they are fertile, and they age out.

[@TheloniousMcCoy]

This!!!

[@jordanmumaw2310]

As a parent of four I resent the U.S. societal structure that sees myself and my children as cash cows that will promote “economic dynamism.” We are people first. I strive for living happily. Not for producing ever-growing gdp or crap that will outstrip our earth’s capacity to absorb pollution. My children are aware of the abuse the working class is going thru. And I will encourage them to live happy lives. Not necessarily be baby-makers for the imperial core to use up.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

@@VasuJaganathAmen! The food is poison especially! Look at all the people with health issues! Look at the preservatives in your plastic-wrapped food/condiments!

[@skylinefever]

@@VasuJaganath I wonder if the incels will just end up going French Revolution on corporate oligarchs.

[@davidhaylett1810]

Yes exactly, these people behave as though the state or government is a separate entity that is more important than its citizens. People are seen as cash cows to be taxed to death to feed this machine and to provide low cost services for the rich.

[@dannavalentin46]

@@davidhaylett1810 because it’s true

[@edheldude]

Whatever you believe, you are right. You could also set up your life in a way where you do the things you want, instead of having this victim mindset.

[@kevinc2821]

Nothing would make me want a kid.

[@retrodripsupport7510]

You have been cucked by the Marxists congratulations

[@queeniequeen949]

Same especially in this economy!!! 💯💯💯💯

[@jmanakajosh9354]

This isn’t even a problem in America. This is a problem in Korea & Japan & Germany.

[@MarcosSantos-dj6lk]

smart man. They just want ''slaves'' for working the world don't need more people 8 billion is already huge

[@skylinefever]

Times were better years ago, and I still couldn't think of why I would ever want children.

[@Leo-z1v]

I would not even consider having children into days world. What a life of servitude. No way

[@KendrickJMack]

They are only worried about their Workforce, Tax Base and Military. Don’t bring kids into this. Life is Too Short - Live YOUR Best Life!

[@LucareonVee]

😎🍻

[@BM.167]

What a stupid comment.

[@stefaniamoore4641]

My best life includes raising kids.

[@sunshine69962]

actually quite the opposite, If you pay attention at all, the WHO, WEF, and other "global leaders"/"elites" WANT depopulation. They dont want new people coming into the world. They are literally pouring billions toward this. This is exactly what they want. And they have a lot of people fooled.

[@LucareonVee]

@@stefaniamoore4641 Which is fine. Just as long as you understand that it’s not the case for everyone.

[@genzinvesting8405]

Make childcare and healthcare affordable. More people would have kids

[@dixonjavier]

Eehhh nop, even in places where healthcare is free, people are NOT having kids. Its a generational thing. But dont worry, Mexicans and Salvatorians will replace the kids yall were planning on havinv

[@bloodbathy]

Nope. This won't help immediately. Immigration is the solution.

[@Matti_us_Alpe]

It is not about that. It is about life style. Rich people also do not have children.

[@jakeohare913]

@@bloodbathy they would help if housing was also much more affordable. Many young people want families but simply can’t afford it

[@raheelakhtar7]

Did you not listen to the bit about Scandinavia??

[@VisitorsWelcome]

First, we’re told AI will replace jobs so we need fewer workers. Now we’re told birth rates will reduce workers so we need the government to intervene. Bottom line, the government should stay out of personal decisions like having a family. Our planet would benefit from a lower population anyway.

[@domcizek]

ONLY WO MUDH . IN THE FUTURE, GOV WILL PAY WOMEN TO HAVE BABIES, HUNGARY IS ALREDY PAYING 90K TO WOMEM THAT HAVE 3 BABIES PLUS FREE CHILD CARE, THE FUTURE IS ALREADY HERE

[@jameskamotho7513]

Exactly 💯. This was their message until about the time the pandemic broke...

[@shae187]

the Major problem for the company is they have fewer consumers to buy their products. Workforce is not a big issue, the consumers is

[@dannavalentin46]

@@domcizek That's in Hungary tho, besides, it still won't change my mind.

[@dannavalentin46]

@S-cg3uv how???

[@HedgeFundCIO]

It’s the cost of living. This is literally a conversation among people who don’t live in reality.

[@info781]

It is also infrastructure, people remember when it was not so crowded

[@TheOriginalScorpioBelle]

No, it’s because women don’t want to be in relationships with men anymore. It’s not worth it. Surprisingly there’s a lonely male crisis and a birth rate decline. Yet they act like those things don’t correlate.

[@clairearan505]

People need money to raise children. It's that simple. We've been here before, we just have to find where all the money is being hoarded and spread that wealth around so people can afford the high cost of raising a family. Or, leave the money where it is and act surprised when people choose to pay their bills with the scraps they are left with instead of starting families.

[@Africanchild825]

It appears that all the rich people live in Africa then.Their population is climbing rapidly.😂

[@cherrelle40]

They also need time.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

You can’t blame the billionaires for a problem that started 200+ years ago with the death of agriculture. As much as I hate them too, you can’t blame any currently living person for a millennia-old conundrum.

[@skylinefever]

@@Africanchild825 They don't have Blackrocks and Vanguards monopolizing homes.

[@r90f]

Millionaires & billionaires are hoarding currency in places like the Cayman Islands. And some use dividends & etc

[@marcopolo3109]

I'm single, on my 30s and financially stable. I own a house with 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. I don't have kids and I never intend on having a family in my entire life. That way I can save lots of money over my lifetime, and provide for myself economically.

[@clayhova]

What's the point to all that ? if you can't pass it on..? They will just take your money and home when you go and add to their family

[@marcopolo3109]

@@clayhova Who will take my money and home? What family are you referring to?

[@DavidVonR]

@@marcopolo3109 Why do you own such a large home if you don't want kids?

[@marcopolo3109]

@@DavidVonR what's wrong with owning a home for only myself.? Is already paid off so no monthly mortgage payment needed. I live comfortably and I financially provided for myself. Do you know that having a family costs a lot of money and is really expensive over a lifetime, especially when having kids. Thanks but no.

[@SPENCER1SHOT]

​@@clayhova The point is that he's happy.

[@mocheen4837]

It is very expensive to have children.

[@DrMomans]

Yeah, because hand-me-downs and homemade baby foods are considered "weird"

[@edheldude]

Why are you repeating this? Do you have any actual numbers?

[@sa4769]

I also think the planet needs a break from so many humans specially the greedy ones

[@josephcalabrese6337]

Last I checked. There are over eight billion humans alive today.

[@edheldude]

We're heading for a huge crash. It already started 55 years ago.

[@Seanpfree]

Wealth gap is at all time highs in the history of money, we cannot afford a home, child care, retirement, groceries, Healthcare for OURSELVES let alone for kids. Enjoy those record high earnings and wealth gap, it's the last time in America.

[@daveturne8059]

Honestly this doesn’t even matter as corporations only want cheap illegal labor and mass poverty, eventually with automation who needs kids when no one has jobs

[@leontaecoleman3644]

the greedy rich people don’t care they just need workers.

[@Kartzchen]

Need taxes to be paid.

[@edheldude]

The Left and the big corporations work together to make people poor so they are dependent on what they give them. Old Money will rule the land, and poor people will vote for their overlords.

[@rustyshackelford6834]

If no one pays taxes, who will pay the ilkegal immigrants rent and bailout the corporations? 😅

[@elizabethr4107]

There are not enough resources for the ppl alive TODAY. It must be sad to look at everything thru a fiscal lens.

[@stefaniamoore4641]

Do you have any idea what happens to societies that can't reproduce themselves? Can you imagine being elderly and not being able to go to a doctor b/c we don't have any? Can you imagine what it will be like when nearly half of all roadways are undrivable because we don't have a workforce large enough to maintain them? Do you have any idea what will happen to the price of food when we don't have enough people farming?

[@dmitrykozhin6884]

@@stefaniamoore4641 Well maybe obesity should be addressed in the first place, otherwise majority of elderly will be very sick.

[@stefaniamoore4641]

@dmitrykozhin6884 I mean I totally agree that obesity is a problem but what does that have to do with childlessness.

[@sit-downwithyaya2858]

​@@stefaniamoore4641we'll be long dead before it gets that bad.

[@edheldude]

Yes there are. All resources are more plentiful than they were before.

[@ClownMoney]

No money no kids simple. Ppl say but ppl in the past didnt have money and had plenty kids will they struggle very hard and i rather avoid that struggles all together and not have kids.

[@johnnykidblue]

Yeah, struggle sounds hard. Why would anyone do something that’s hard.

[@ICantRecognizeCelebrities]

And instances of human trafficking are brought to light more often, with no real acknowledgement from the government that children being sold is a problem they are actively fighting. Why would people want to give birth to more potential victims?

[@shaymalchione809]

People also went through the depression & had to watch their children starve.

[@harrygroundwater2590]

People in the past didn't have contraception lol

[@jeremyd1298]

It's a little difficult meeting women these days, along with divorce rates near 50 percent, cost of a home is way too high. So, uh, yeah.

[@Network126]

Try meeting a woman after falling into homelessness... It becomes impossible.

[@smellypatel5272]

Women in the US are entitled and used up. No guy wants that for marriage

[@mikesorensen8254]

Less kids now, mean more resources, like jobs, housing, land in the future. Having kids to support the ponzi scheme called social security and being good little consumers to feed wealthy corporations appetite for never ending growth needs to end.

[@julieackerson3111]

Best comment yet! 💯 facts

[@retrodripsupport7510]

You are smooth brained. They are just going to leave the border wide open to get their cattle to feed.

[@alanhill2508]

How to implement a model of sustainability in this consumer based economy??

[@johnnykidblue]

Facts! But let’s stay single and childless and still work for these corporations until we die tho.

[@retrodripsupport7510]

@@johnnykidblue watch your comment will get deleted. CNBC has their noob moderators combing the comments for their masters

[@kortyEdna825]

The only American who won't acknowledge this Administration's failed economic policies is Joe Biden. "Shrink-flation' is the least of our worries compared to rising rents and stagnant wages, but it is an undeniable indicator of how bad our inflation has gotten. I have $100k that i like to invest in a non-retirement account, any advice on that?

[@carssimplified2195]

I would avoid index funds, mutual funds, and specific stocks for the time being. Right now, the best option is a fixed income of five percent. Put money aside for the times when the market really starts to bounce back.

[@KaurKhangura]

45% of Americans do not invest in the stock market because of lack of guidance. Every year you don't invest, you are falling behind. I’m hitting numbers in the stock market I used to dream of… Going from $50k to $600k in my portfolio is surreal all thanks to insights from my financial advisor.

[@KaurKhangura]

She goes by ‘’Marisa Michelle Litwinsky’’ I suggest you look her up. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did

[@ComeWeFly]

The birth rate has been falling for years and has nothing to do with Biden. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@sunshine69962]

They arent incompetent though. They are achieving the results they exactly wanted. This is intentional and is absolutely a real agenda. They want to depopulate the world.

[@theobserver7826]

I found it fascinating that the broadcast reporters asked her three times if there were any countries that have successfully dealt with a population decline and each time she said no.... like if they asked it differently she might pull something out of the air.

[@harmonizedigital.]

I know right.

[@waleedsharaf4524]

I thought something was wrong with the video and it was stuck in a loop when the same question was asked 3x.

[@Dimantledpenguin99]

Lmao honestly what don’t they get we can’t afford to have kids in this economy

[@skylinefever]

@@Dimantledpenguin99 They don't "Get it" because in non urban and non industrial economies, people lived in caves and had 5 kids. Therefore, someone will argue economics don't matter.

[@SoulfulVeg]

​@@skylinefever having lived in a country with a developing economy, people have many children due to lack of access to birth control and high infant mortality. They also have a culture that values childbearing. Here, we've demonized children and folks have choices. That's the big difference I've observed.

[@teebone2157]

Cost are too high , its all financial

[@eugenefirebird8938]

More people = high prices.

[@goodgame7474]

@@eugenefirebird8938 more people = more stupid comments

[@rrickarr]

SO true. And, who has the children: the immigrants that people love to hate.

[@Matti_us_Alpe]

It is lifestyle, forcing women to work and contraception.

[@jjjj-xj5md]

So the Scandinavian countries he talked about are irrelevant in your opinion? Have you looked up the benefits you get when you have a kid in those countries? All of these things and yet the most generous countries in the world still have declining birth rates.

[@broderickblack]

Do not have children.

[@Jindsing]

Cost of living is huge. but dating apps and social media have ruined courtship. 80% of all single women are only interested in dating 20% of single men.

[@leontaecoleman3644]

Yup all the average men are invisible to women.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

I don’t think this is a problem. At least they’re not having tons of kids out of wedlock after getting blasted at parties….like the women were doing in the 20s which is why we had prohibition ratified by the states. The present is not a uniquely bad moment when it comes to dating culture it has been worse in the past.

[@umarjongi3590]

It's more like 80% o all single women don't want to date at all.

[@leontaecoleman3644]

80% of women have high standards.and they think their better than the majority of men.

[@BrayBray78]

@umarjongi3590 Bingo. No one wants to be a single mother or get beat up on the regular. It's too much risk.

[@mikesercanto9149]

In the 60s and 70s overpopulation was seen as a problem. The concerns were pollution and depletion of natural resources. Experts of that era would have welcomed a falling birth rate, but now it's "misguided"? So is society supposed to start encouraging high birth rates so 50 years from now "experts" will express concern about overpopulation?

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Experts gotta have their million-dollar a year speaking fees man!

[@skylinefever]

Gotta hype up a crisis and solution, homeostasis is not profitable.

[@alipainting]

I'm a child-care worker but I can't afford to work at a daycare without living in my car. So i only work for the rich. There is a teacher i know who needs infant daycare. There isn't any. She can't afford a nanny, so she'll have to quit and work an evenings and weekend job like i had to, while the baby is young.

[@tednguyen7258]

her life sucks

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Maybe we should return to localized agriculture! Help everybody start a garden, nationalize the evil food conglomerates. Then it will make sense for people to have and afford little helpers around the house…like it was 100 years ago.

[@sigrholambda]

Other than corporations not having enough cheap labor why is this bad?

[@stefaniamoore4641]

Because at some point every infustructure we have will crumble due to not enough workers. You won't be able to see a doctor because there won't be any. All of our roadways and bridges will be in desperate need of repairs, but we won't have a big enough workforce to fix them. Farms will be left with food rotting on trees and in the ground b/c there won't be enough people to pick them or ship them.

[@sigrholambda]

@stefaniamoore4641 yes in the far far future with no replacement but that isn't what corporations are worried about. They're worried about having to spend more on payroll. They already don't care about destroying the planet for monetary gain.

[@SweetSkies478]

@@stefaniamoore4641society will be fine

[@anhbayar11]

​​@@stefaniamoore4641 Good. People made their choice long time ago. This was a long time coming. No second chance.

[@christabradley8164]

​@@stefaniamoore4641A lot of that can be solved by technology and AI, we're developing AI for example that can help manage crop production and take a lot of the human workers out of that. I'm working on some of those endeavors myself. We shouldn't need to work to survive, we can use technology to become a non-scarce society if we do things correctly and then there's no need for capitalism or socialism really when everyone has fully access to basics. Unfortunately the people in power don't really have an incentive to go down this road fully because they would lose their power. It's pretty sickening. We also have AI technology right now where we could analyze the entire human genome and in theory could wipe out all human diseases by 2100. But no. We have to keep those in power for whatever reason and economy over people.

[@mollymainstream8005]

Family friendly. What is family friendly? The answer is societal recognition and acceptance of the value that healthy families add to our country and society. Family friendly is.. shorter working days/weeks, moms recognized as "having important jobs", babies and children recognized as being worthy to be respected in public spaces, husband's and wives are respected as having a bond that is sacred and central to the family, which is again something that is respected, sacred, cherished.. Movies in the 90's tried to help shape this idea for the future, go back and watch some of them and then practice Family friendly vibes in your life, spend more time with your spouse, make a scared game night with your family, let the neighbors kids play on your lawn, don't sue your neighbors when your kid breaks their arm on the trampoline, pay your employees a living wage so they don't have to have 4 jobs, support single family housing, drive the rents back down to a level that's reasonable, provide community cooking classes especially in the high-school, stop complaining about babies breastfeeding in public... it's an inconvenience for single people that we can all grow up and live with.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

And stop sending parents to jail when their kids is at the park playing on a swingset!

[@claybaybay519]

lol 99% of what you stated with have 0% impact on our economy/infrastructure/policies. It will just make you feel better, spoken like a true politician. Meaningless and unimpactful ideas.

[@sarwarkhan1185]

People Don’t want Their Kids To Inherit the trillions Of debt taken to Benefit the Entitled ones

[@jonasking3670]

Nobody thinks about the national debt when family planning. They might consider their own personal debt, but not the national debt. That’s just a talking point created by conservatives so they can cut benefits.

[@nathanielleeson7263]

34 no kids. Life is GRAND

[@christopherjelen7661]

My only complaint about that is not having kids I have to pay property taxes in Ohio on my house which is b******* I don't have kids in the school system and I shouldn't have to pay for them

[@LucareonVee]

Agreed. 😎🍻

[@johngreg12]

@@christopherjelen7661 That is not how it works! Also, you don't have to own a home. Then you won't pay for the school district.

[@fertblu5514]

how is life great?

[@LucareonVee]

@@fertblu5514 Because we don’t have something that we don’t want. 😘

[@raggedflaggon9566]

It has become so unaffordable over time. When we only need one income and the mom stayed home then all good. Then we started needing dual incomes to keep up that lifestyle. Then we needed debt. Now childcare is like 2k a month or so. The wealth inequality and distribution of profits is so skewed towards the rich now that people can barely survive.

[@caddyshack68]

When I hear people like KZbinr PBD say people need to be less selfish what it sounds like he is saying is that selfishness is anything that doesn’t benefit him or his entrepreneurs. Being an entrepreneur is an incredibly selfish endeavor. You are working entirely for yourself. In fact being an entrepreneur is one of the most selfish things you could do. You sacrifice family, friends and sometimes being a decent human for monetary gain. Hearing him saying that is asshat backwards.

[@tpop3723]

This is happening all over the world now due to the increase in the standard of living and the cost to maintain it.

[@info781]

Yes the world is more crowded, more competition for housing.

[@playtime20214]

Ask us how raising kids was during Covid, how little support we had. Now, think of the future. It's a no-brainer that having kids these days is CHALLENGING and going down.

[@averybertram9832]

Yes the government could invest in families to increase birth rates, or it could ban contraception and abortion for poor people who cannot afford to travel. I wonder which one they are going to do

[@DivineLightPaladin]

Soon women's bodies will just give up from the stress of it all and say no, sudden fetal ejection will rise like crazy to those forced.

[@christiancoronado]

Having kids has become a luxury item. No person with common sense will bring kids if they can't afford a house

[@retrodripsupport7510]

if you're just focusing on financial your missing a big piece of the pie. Families used to live in 2-4 tenement houses and share rooms as children. Those same families also consumed far less and therefore had more saved income. Yes housing is an issue but the cultural/politcal divide amongst young people is dramatically effecting family formation just as much as inflation/housing. That divide didn't exist in the previous decades.

[@arnoldk7293]

Who told you that, fenimists?

[@christiancoronado]

@@arnoldk7293 just make ur wife pop as many kids as she can and lmk how that goes

[@johnnykidblue]

Yes, renters should not be having children, period!

[@skylinefever]

@@retrodripsupport7510 Renters already have kids, it doesn't automatically make life grand.

[@mahindrasrikanth9880]

Less people =less competation = peacefull life .

[@Zucker2007]

Not how economics work. If you think inflation is harsh now, wait until there won't be any places in assisted living under $50,000 a month anymore. There won't be enough people to take care of things and keep them running.

[@DaxRandalman]

⁠​⁠@@Zucker2007well, when you have 1% of people who are disgustingly rich, and expect everyone to work for them and keep things going for them and their peers, what other outcome do you expect? People are not tools to make other people rich.

[@liamc4113]

Agree, but who is paying for those boomers retirement entitlements?

[@triggered577]

@@Zucker2007So I’ll take my money and emigrate to a developing country lol.

[@eugenefirebird8938]

We all lived better when USA had under 200 million. Lies. @@Zucker2007

[@Cottoncandyclouds1234]

Do you really want to have a child in this abhorrent country? School shootings are becoming common...I was heart broken 💔 hearing my kids talk and the elementary school talk about and implement school shooting drills...😭💔 It's terrible!

[@Mikell-h2c]

I had family in Eastern Europe during ww2 , need I say more?

[@info781]

Gun nuts have taken over.

[@johnnykidblue]

Gen Z do be whining tho.

[@shaymalchione809]

It’s horrible we put our kids on the bus & pray they make it home. And our govt doesn’t care we just wait & hope it’s not our child’s school next.

[@Gazer-x5s]

@@johnnykidbluefor real, evil

[@monkaf]

People have a lot of mental stres nowdays. Raising kids need a LOT of mental strength. Depression is common nowdays and is rising. Its better not to have kids.

[@alexrolfes4473]

The US will need to make potential parents more comfortable with an increased cost of living that comes with raising children. Implementing a comprehensive policy with things like universal healthcare, universal Pre-K, paid time off for all workers, material/paternal paid leave, paying livable wages/raising the outdated federal minimum wage, affordable tuition for colleges and universities, taking the tax burden off the middle class, and making wealthy billionaires pay their fair share in taxes (funding public schools, roads, bridges, etc) is a good place to start. Practical question.... Outside of economic reasons, do we really need more babies in this country?

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Right because these things worked in Europe! And Europe has a booming population! (Sarcasm)

[@skylinefever]

Even if parents had those expenses covered, there is no guarantee. How many people just don't see the point in having kids? How many adults ask why they were born in the first place?

[@info781]

This is wrong, you don't bribe women to have more kids, they are acting rationally, many countries are over flowing with people.

[@DivineLightPaladin]

Besides all that, even for those that might want kids but cannot due to health issues, a lot of funding in research needs to be done to improve maternal health outcomes. For example a cure for hyperemesis gravidarum, a common and life threatening condition that prevents many who want children from having them. Furthermore the cost and limitations on adoption prevent another group of would be parents.

[@nateorus]

concerns about human over-population of the earth are not "Misguided". Not everything should be viewed through the lens of economics ...

[@mendohoney]

exactly and that is the truth

[@johnnykidblue]

Earth Now Has 8 Billion Humans. This Man Wishes There Were None.

[@domcizek]

IF YOU DONT, ALL LIVING STANDAARDS WILL BE GOING DOWN, WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL THE RETIRED PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY? PEOPLE WORKKNG PAY FOR THE RETIRED, NOW IN AMERICA , SO IT IS ECONOMICS AAFTER ALL, YOU MAY HAVE TO WORK TILL YOU DIE, PLUS GROW YOUR OWN FOOD, TO SURVIVE IN THE FUTURE

[@shreyasbinjrajka7220]

@@domcizek Well thats their problem, kids are not servants. Change the economic system for the welfare of old people.

[@jameskamotho7513]

I'm 37. All I've heard in the past decade was how AI was going to replace us. We were made to feel useless or at least that's what was to come. What changed?

[@TarlanT]

Research showed that ChatGPT won’t pay individual income tax to support Medicare. 😂

[@jmanakajosh9354]

@@TarlanTso the big news is boomers want more money than even could exist in the future! Who could’ve seen that coming? (Sarcasm)😂

[@skylinefever]

@@jmanakajosh9354 They will just go to the Xerox machine and print more USD.

[@jlooploop]

Fix family law. It is just to risky having children coupled with a 60% divorce rate. Why have kids with a partner when you’re going to be ruined financially and other with our current system

[@rachedhaddar9741]

they never care about what a men face/think

[@gloriathomas3245]

Divorce is only going up because people are putting off marriage.

[@jlooploop]

@@rachedhaddar9741 nope. And nobody covers it. Where is the NYT? Journalism is just as much what isn’t covered as to what is. And then people are confused when what they read doesn’t match reality. And all the poor children of nasty divorce. When balance and therapy is needed, courts criminalize parenting. This is a good resource // youtube.com/@theanti-alienationproject?si=l2uuZWHoLtldc1g_

[@What-v7k]

According to statistics women are left poor after divorce - but keep acting emotional.

[@lkpeay]

@@What-v7kthe majority of homeless people are men, most them got that way through divorce. Women are 90% of the time receive child support and alimony. Now to your point divorce doesn’t benefit ANYONE. But women are not as crushed as men

[@roxycauldwell544]

Companies: *double their prices, don't increase their pay to match it, and take over the housing sector to ask astronomical rent prices and artificially inflate the housing market* "Why is no one having kids?" GOOD. 8 BILLION IS ENOUGH.

[@UToobin75]

Any significant decline in the population by natural means should be CELEBRATED, not fear-mongered over. Global population should be 1/4th of what it is today. Depopulate and downscale to save the planet and to save ourselves. And the government should be providing larger financial incentives to those who remain childless by choice, since we're doing more to spare the environment than any amount of green living could ever do.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

This is CNBC what will they do if their poor billionaire donors can’t get their social security checks! Think of the starving billionaires! 😂 (sarcasm)

[@ronm9428]

My 93 year old grandma has dozens of children, grandchildren and great grandchildren and none of them live within an hour’s drive from her. When I was young (in the 70s), most of my aunts, uncles and cousins lived in the same town. My two daughters are in their 30s, are single and have decided to never have children.

[@Zucker2007]

Very very sad

[@harmonizedigital.]

She has dozens of children?

[@djrickyb]

My younger brother is 38, and his wife, 34 and they decided not to have kids. They have a dog, and she is finishing up school to be a CRNA. However, my nephew had twins at 23 years old and his GF only 20, and my niece had a son about 18 months ago at age 17 with a guy who is largely MIA and barely providing financial support to her. Poor life decisions on their parts, and they live a hard life right now trying to just live and keep roofs over their heads, but everyone loves their babies.

[@arnoldk7293]

Sad story. They probably have a couple of dogs or cats to feel good about themselves. Kids are our future ! Pets can't replace humans. They provide only emotional support not happiness

[@cece121234]

Voting with their wombs. Smart women...

[@antoanetamanko7457]

America is the only developed country in the world that has NO country-wide maternity leave. None! Just let that sync in… Pair it with ever-rising cost of childcare, lack of any significant tax deductions for families, reverse on flexible work (e.g. work from home options) for parents, and barely any sick leave and lack of community support, how are families to have kids and thrive? Unfortunately, though, the people who can make a difference in the government are usually old white man, who are used to their wives staying home with the kids. Times have changed, but we haven’t evolved. I don’t know how this trend is a surprise to anyone…

[@rrickarr]

So true!!! I work in Luxembourg and the maternity and PATERNITY leave is unbelievable to an American. And then parents gets something like 200 EUR per child. The government makes it worth your while to raise children.

[@P2B_JC]

No mandated paid maternity is the biggest affront and disrespect to women in this country. It's an absolute disgrace.

[@djrickyb]

@@P2B_JC And today, the masses also want fathers to be able to take leave to. Calling it Paternity leave. I honestly thought back in the 2000s that in like 20 years USA would establish A basic Maternity leave of like 6 or 8 weeks as a law. It never happened, and at this point I don't think it ever will. Same goes with our Private Health Insurance system. It should have been overhauled, and changed by now. I don't think it may ever change in my life time. It will take a systemic economic and health care collapse to force a major health care change in USA.

[@stb-pk1fs]

If the mother stays home with the kids, then you wouldn't need any of this and the children have statistically greater outcomes.

[@wilsi473]

@@stb-pk1fs families cant afford for a spouse to stay home

[@trojanhell7639]

1 child is like buying a house you will spend close to $200,000 till he’s 18 years old

[@mooseymoose]

You forgot to add a zero, it's actually $2 million for a 'decent' upbringing.

[@FolasadeXO]

Don’t forget to adjust for inflation too

[@info781]

200k is cheap, kids are more than 10k a year.

[@Kartzchen]

You got the discount version

[@edmondov]

Maybe it's an indicator that the world is overpopulated and too expensive

[@cece121234]

We have 8B people in the world. Why do we need more?

[@LucareonVee]

We don’t.

[@donaldkbruce]

@@LucareonVee this whole discussion comes from a singular vantage point and that vantage point comes from sustaining "growth" and improving GDP and corporate profitability....I would much rather see 5 Billion people who are well taken care of give the planet a rest, since the "Technology" and Innovation argument does not take into account the HUGE problems that our biosphere is having as we try to squezz more people into so that we can have "economic dynamism"....this is soooo short sighted in terms of human values

[@mooseymoose]

So the rich can continue to extract MORE.

[@lights6865]

​@@donaldkbrucewe don't care. We're probably passed away before that even happens. The fate of humanity especially a country's greed for slavery and money are not on our shoulders

[@skylinefever]

Because Harvey Danger has been around the world and only stupid are breeding.

[@PeterFnPorker]

I'm in my late 30's and America has never been affordable...

[@marengoczar5035]

It use to be, Housing and daycare have become crazy in the last 6 years

[@prabhakar0076]

😂😂😂 If u r unmarried

[@PeterFnPorker]

@@prabhakar0076 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the number of single people in the US has outnumbered married people since 1976.

[@shaymalchione809]

⁠@@prabhakar0076Plenty of married poor people.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

It’s about to be less affordable it looks like so save up and prepare for hard times. Houses will be in a bubble for another decade at this rate you pay $1 mill for 500 square feet in a swamp in Missouri.

[@JohnnyPeacenic]

Lets hope birth rates continue to decline. We are overpopulated

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

We are not overpopulated, we are stacked in cities with High rise buildings and the resources are not evenly distributed. There are vast regions that do not have a single human being living there. When flying long distance check the land. I do agree with you that we need to stop reproducing.

[@DivineLightPaladin]

​@@GrandSolarEclipsethat doesn't mean we need to spread out and mess up more land. Leave the environment to do what it's meant to, keep the air clean and the animals sheltered!

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

@@DivineLightPaladin did you really read my previous reply.? After showing that we are not overpopulated I mentioned that I agree that we should stop reproducing. Did you get that part? Or are you reading to reply? 1- We are not overpopulated 2- We should stop reproducing. I only mention this because we are taking over areas that are the natural habitat of animals. 3- There are vast regions in the desert that could be used to build cities . Saudi Arabia even poured sand in the sea to build cities. There is more oceans / seas than landmass available. 4- Our main problem is the distribution of riches. There are countries like the US who represent 5% of the world population but takes in 50% of the world's resources. Now that the pétrodollars deal is off the US will be forced to consume less. Turn on your TV and see how often the advertisements show up. If you see it frequently you live in a high consumer society. It is that simple. Even I order stuff that I barely use. Look at the amount of yard sales and salvation army around you' That consumer mentality is decremental to the world Most people form they opinions without deep analysis. Another problem people face without proposer analysis is climate change, previously known as Global warming. It was predicted that by the year 2020 the whole world would be flooded.

[@denesejamerson2356]

We will be fine! No need to panic! Enough people to keep things going!

[@GC-fj4lc]

Why the *hell* would I have kids right now?

[@Narlo_]

Nah I Don't Want Kids Either

[@Xander.Non.Beta.Male_23]

Having a dog is the key to happiness, not children. Children are a complete drain on a person's financial resources and their precious time. The brief minutes of fleeting "joy" a child could bring to a parent are not worth the tremendous challenges of raising them. Try and convince me otherwise.

[@Network126]

I need a woman and a family... Unfortunately I'm homeless and alone on the streets in an old Toyota Sienna minivan after losing my housing twice during the pandemic.

[@Gazer-x5s]

@@Network126need 😏

[@cutehumor]

Xander did your parents say you were a financial burden to them??

[@Network126]

@@Gazer-x5s I'm just falling deeper into depression everyday being alone and homeless... I need love in my life.

[@ComeWeFly]

As woman who has three dogs and one child, I concur.

[@joziewales1965]

And here we were told the dangers of overpopulation for years and years

[@info781]

They were right, the planet is too crowded now.

[@rnskfamily7672]

Outsourced jobs, automation, declining family values, cost of living, employers refusing to pay higher wages, adversity to the concept of marriage, recessions... list goes on... for an advanced economy and what the world calls first world country this is devastating... poor countries are able to make more babies we should be ashamed.

[@rrickarr]

And Trump said he was going to bring all of those jobs back to America--people seem to forget he said that and then he never delivered.

[@rnskfamily7672]

@rrickarr honestly has nothing to do with politics no matter who is elected. This is going to need a strong public policy where fortune 500 and other employers must operate within those guidelines. Tax policy must benefit families with children and must punish divorce and separations and abortions. Responsible citizens that have the balls to marry, have children, raise them must be rewarded with housing, property tax and other fed and state tax benefits.

[@liamc4113]

@@rrickarr At least Trump had said it and tried. All the other politicians are doing the exact opposite.

[@cobrafan1403]

Most people in poor countries probably live better than most people in the US

[@domcizek]

ALL TRUE, EXCEPT, THE ONLY COUNTRY HAVING MORE BABIES IS AFRICA, ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD RICH OR POOR ARE LOSING POPULATION,

[@perer005]

Why would women want +3 children? We aren’t running a family farm here…

[@Mikell-h2c]

Amish ❤❤😊

[@AcctistaZ]

Do it for the glory of your CEO not loosing money on his assets

[@retrodripsupport7510]

but yeah be a slave for the federal government or some conglomerate. You did it boss babe! You were fooled by Edward Bernays propaganda

[@jaygold4467]

My two bothers have 8 and 9. My sister has 9. We need babies. Women have to stay home and have babies like nature intended.

[@johnnykidblue]

@jaygold4467 No, women have to try to be men, as progress intended.🤔

[@a0705717]

it's not just financial. kids are a nuisance

[@Xander.Non.Beta.Male_23]

Dogs are the answer.

[@sb5224]

@@Xander.Non.Beta.Male_23 Amen!

[@maxcloutier5285]

There has never been such thing as shrinking population. Overpopulation is the problem.

[@playcloud3344]

You are living in the past

[@maxcloutier5285]

@@playcloud3344 He rely on stats. You are living in some hypothetic future.

[@info781]

Yep even Japan has hardly dropped .

[@maxcloutier5285]

@@info781 Japan is the exception

[@blakesmith5198]

I’m a home owner, have a good job, but I can’t take the risk of getting married and having kids. I’ve seen two friends get completely cleaned out when their wives decided to cut and run and gained primary custody of the children. Why should I sign a contract where the partner gets rewarded for breaking it?

[@triggered577]

You don’t know what happened in those relationships. And if the mothers were the primary care givers/ did most the domestic care and spent the most time with the children (as is usually the case) it makes sense to keep they get preferences in custodial arrangements.

[@suebotchie4167]

​@@triggered577plus all the free labor wives bring into the relationship.

[@SC-sh6ux]

You must not think your friends provided much to their marriage if you feel their wives were rewarded for leaving. I’m guessing their wives agreed and are happier and better off without them. How could you find friends who bring a ton of value to their marriage, so much that their wives would feel worse off without them? I’ve heard we become similar to those that we associate with.

[@JohnP-e8u]

@@triggered577 You failed to answer Mr. Smith's question. The correct answer to "Why should I sign a contract where the partner gets rewarded for breaking it?" is Mr. Smith, you should never sign that sort of a contract, it's a bad deal for you!

[@blakesmith5198]

This person just won’t come out and say the truth. What happens are those economies eventually collapse. The shell game can’t continue if there’s not enough people to play the game.

[@mooseymoose]

The game is rigged, not in our favor and we stopped playing. Go figure.

[@info781]

Wrong. They start allowing more immigration just like before we had countries and passports

[@spectator-o8h]

I took her intermediate microeconomics class years ago. You knew class was starting soon when you heard the echo of designer shoes coming down the hallway.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Oh dang! Any good takeaways?

[@kr0nz]

Too bad Republicans don't support any policies that help family leaves or child support. The top 1% that have benefitted over the last 50 years need to be taxed more to help.

[@claybaybay519]

Money going to the government is never a good thing, that at least is something I can agree with conservatives about. Waiting around for good ol' Uncle Sam to fix it, or to do something about it is just digging yourself into a larger hole. The sooner people realize that it is up to them and hopefully friends/family (if they have them) and the generosity of others. Are you helping families? Or do you think other people should do that instead and not you?

[@rustyshackelford6834]

The 1% are all democrats that hate Trump tho. 😂😅

[@serg320]

WFH helped parents a lot with lowering cost in daycare and time to pick up kids from school time with their children but hey wth do I know

[@waleedsharaf4524]

I think WFH can be a BIG of the solution to decreasing the cost of raising children. How? Reduce or eliminate daycare, reduce transportation costs, clothing costs, restaurant costs, car insurance costs (fewer miles driven lowers insurance), lower communication costs if the employer covers some cell phone and Internet costs. Ideally one income would be enough to raise a child, but that's really not possible anymore because we all want big homes, nice vacations, multiple cars and the best of everything, so WFH permanently has to be a part of the solution for all new parents. How long? Most kids are independent after middle school, so at least until kids reach the age of 15.

[@alexisdamnit9012]

Some people just don’t want kids bozos 😂😂😂

[@leontaecoleman3644]

they want control over our kids lives.

[@MrGEOJunky1]

We can’t afford life. People use to live on one income. Now it takes 2 incomes and 1-2 part time jobs or side hustles just to pay the bills. Thats up to 4 incomes now!!!

[@jcf2322]

When government gets involved in trying to put their thumb on the scale to help fix a problem, they tend to make it worse in the long run. Rather than explicit policies to increase births, governments should seek policies to make life more sustainable for everyone. You don't need to add anything to get people to make babies. Mother Nature thankfully does that on its own. However, government policies around housing, medical and child care, and public investment in infrastructure could go a long way, in reducing the inclination to delay starting a family. Also, to the larger economic concern of not enough people paying payroll taxes in this country is ridiculous, we can just change the method by which Social Security is funded. And given technological advances, we don't know yet the future demand for labor, so encouraging people to have babies to address past issues, ie not enough workers, is not inherently the best answers for future unknowns, will there even be jobs for these people. So rather than explicitly trying to encourage people to make more babies, let government focus on people being able to not live pay check to pay check, and I'll bet just doing that people will have more children naturally.

[@info781]

Yep we have lots of people they are not used properly.

[@claybaybay519]

Your first sentence is what I agree with. You state government getting involved will make things worse, and yet your solution = government

[@loveandjoy810]

Here’s a temporary tax credit for your expensive life long responsibility. My daughter in law had a baby last year and her employer told her to stop scheduling her prenatal visits during the day for her high risk pregnancy due to gestational diabetes. It was interfering with her work output. What doctor’s office do you know that’s open after 6 pm? America pays lip service only to being pro family. My daughter in law had to leave that job because they made it a hostile work environment whenever her kid had a doctors appointment or got sick.

[@SeanGelarden]

The only reason theyre worried about the birth rate is it takes a lot of poor people to make a billionaire, the minute they have a robot to replace you they will. Want more kids? Help parents

[@Daara92]

Profits of multinational corporations who make most of the profits are at all times highs, yet wages have been stagnant, the middle class has diminished into poverty. People are judged by their wealth nowadays

[@JohnnyPeacenic]

We dont care about the economy

[@JimmySaul888]

Time to figure out how to run an economy with a shrinking GDP.

[@wussrestbrook1200]

It’s simple just you poor people won’t like it

[@sheepman6291]

My wife and I can't afford to buy home now on my engineering salary.

[@eugenefirebird8938]

In the 1960s, an engineer could buy a castle in any town. You may have to build your own house as I did a few years back. An engineer can easily do it. I know.

[@sheepman6291]

@@eugenefirebird8938 I have seriously debated about building my own house.

[@chriserony]

Same here. Though my salary is at an all time low with so many young people in the industry now

[@tednguyen7258]

at least u have a wife

[@sheepman6291]

@@tednguyen7258 It is true.

[@daetros1626]

Gee it's almost like if every single person has to work every single day just to keep roof overhead and food on the table then fewer people have time and resources to support children. Corporations perfected the art of taking everything and giving nothing back. I hope it all falls apart and they get to sit on their mountains of gold and watch society end.

[@TheOgontz]

Working many hours to pay off what seems like infinite debt will do it.

[@Idealgentlemen_]

Why are we trying to increase the population????????

[@sharoncolaizzi8545]

decrease in tax revenue

[@JasbirSingh-zj1fg]

Military recruitment is falling.

[@hitchensfollower6966]

The Ponzi Scheme that is Social Security will collapse without enough working people paying into the system.

[@prabhakar0076]

So banks can support of more USA debt 😂😂😂 and Mnc's can have more customers

[@philfortner1805]

To extend and pretend this hollow economy. How else will we build more strip malls? Think of the strip malls people!