American Reacts The Deadliest Company In Human History | Answers With Joe

[@marcelrenes2435]

The Dutch way of thinking was: If I invest for example $10.000 in one ship, I take a huge risk. Many ships never came back because of storm, sickness, piracy etc. However if I invest this $10.000 in ten ships, a $1.000 in each ship, chances are 6 of them might return with spices. Because of the huge profits on spices, I'll make a enormous profit witch much less risk. That's how the VOC was created. You bought VOC shares to spread your risk. And you could trade those shares with other people. So yes, the Dutch East India Company was the first company in the world and the first stock exchange was founded in Amsterdam.

[@davidmarsden9800]

The English way of thinking came up with insurance to spread the risk amongst a group of investors, which is how Lloyd's coffee house became what it is today just down the road from where it started in the late 1600s.

[@rmyikzelf5604]

Indeed. The British soon followed.

[@victorcapel2755]

The Neapolitanian mafia does the same thing with cocaine shipments. "Anyone" (with sufficient contacts ofc) can invest a couple of 100 € in a shipment, to spread the risk.

[@lbergen001]

The VOC was a Dutch private company , financed through shares owned by private people. The government of the young Dutch republic gave the VOC privileges to create colonies, have an army, negotiate with other countries, etc. There are other interesting videos about the VOC.

[@williambranch4283]

Similar to British East and West Indies Companies. Globalization isn't new, but has being going on since the Bronze Age. Is it more immoral for a private company to engage in foreign policy (aka parasitism) or royalty? Of course the collapse of globalization pyramid schemes (see Mr Ponzi circa 1920) results in negative results. A purely private mercenary company with honest books would be one thing, a dishonest private mercenary company, with under the table government subsidy, how can you tell its solvency?

[@williambranch4283]

This is how a "private" army of Japanese invaded Manchuria in 1931 (the Kwangtung Army), and the American Flying Tigers supported China in the months leading up to Pearl Harbor.

[@lbergen001]

@@williambranch4283 in the 1600's it was normal, now it is immoral.

[@williambranch4283]

@@lbergen001 Muslims and Christians (with Jewish financial backing) were responsible for this. Abrahamic morality in action. What defines morality today? (rhetorical question).

[@lordgandalf22]

This is also why the Dutch are the first to create a stockmarket. And the Dutch where the only ones to trade with Japan in its closed years due to the Dutch being only interested in trade not in grabbing land 😃

[@roadrage9191]

VOC was a company, with investors / shareholders, hence publically traded. VOC had employees from throughout the world, example Henry Hudson was employed by the VOC but obviously was English. VOC was involved in wars, genocide etc, but the only drive was making money.

[@stirlingmoss4621]

No Connor. Europeans bought slaves from African leaders on the coasts of Africa. By the time that white men could venture inland (anti-malarials etc) the slave trade was over for Europeans dealers, but, not the internal African market. See the African-American Thomas Sowell lectures on YT.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

Thomas Sowell... 🤮🤮 Funny how someone denying the involvement of whites in slavery is also a big *OrangeOger* fangirl.

[@stirlingmoss4621]

@@MarvinWestmaas no-one here denies the European involvement in slavery at a time when black & white traded slaves, both black & white also.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@stirlingmoss4621 Yes, tell me about the number of European slaves traded to slave labor in Africa. And do tell me again this fable about there never been inland expeditions but just 'slaves bought who were already in captivity', especially that one is interesting.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@stirlingmoss4621 You must hate the fact that the Dutch government just announced they are going to publicly apologize for their role in the slave trade...

[@stirlingmoss4621]

@@MarvinWestmaas costs nothing

[@mavadelo]

Salt is not considered a spice. It is a mineral.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

The VOC had state like powers it minted its own coins , could declare wars and negotiate trade deals. Just a riminder the Dutch republic only had 1.5 milion people . They employed thousends of mercenariers and sailors .

[@stevenwinteruk]

Salt is not considered a spice or herb as they are obtained from plants, whereas salt is an organic mineral.

[@victorcapel2755]

Salt is a mineral imo, not a spice. But never the less, it was extremly valueable before refrigeration. Roman legionaers got their running payment in salt (since it could be traded everywhere and for everything, since everyone needed it) and that's why you until this day gets a "Salary". From the latin word for Salt, "Sal".

[@colinmorsink9685]

Correct! And next to a mineral and 'salary' it was (and in some cases still i) a preservative.

[@mariussielcken]

Someone 'is worth their salt'

[@mariussielcken]

To sell

[@MartinIrma]

@@mariussielcken And "for sale".

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

100% Salt is a mineral... And I usually have stuffing with chicken or turkey throughout the year... Obviously we have it at Christmas, but also with a Sunday roast dinner or even when buying a turkey or chicken sandwich, as part of a 'meal deal'! 😂😂😂

[@DmoneyS44]

I used to be an ardent libertarian, I thought getting government out of the way would solve all major problems. Then I learned about the Dutch and English East India Company as well as multinational corporations today and I realize that all power has to be checked, private or public.

[@shakya00]

How did the VOC formed ? Who gave them a monopoly ? For what country they worked for ? .. The VOC is everything but the result of a free market economy. Libertarians are not all anarcho-capitalists either...many advocate small government and not the end of it. If within a free market, a company would become a dangerous monopoly that caused big problems for individual freedoms, it could be dismantled/sanctioned by the State. I have never seen such scenario tho. The VOC and I guess the English East India Company don't result from free market but government intervention. I'm skeptic about your story, if that's true tho, your convictions were based on shallow convictions.

[@DmoneyS44]

@@shakya00 I did not say the VOC was the result of the free market, I said that it was private power and an example of capitalism in function. If your argument is that "this isnt a free market" then an actual free market economy is functionally impossible. Unless we discuss hypotheticals or theory there is no way for everyone to start on equal footing in this world. The government gave charters to kickstart the Dutch and English East India Companies but monopolies can grow merely with capital accumulation, and private militiaries existed before the Dutch and English East India Companies also. By the time a company "becomes" a dangerous monopoly it will already have its claws within the state to the point that the state is unable to respond. The power must ultimately reside within the people, both political and economic, and not within the state or corporations. The people and workers having the final say on economic matters is essentially socialism oversimplified. Believe it or not I do not believe in big government but rather government just strong enough to take on monopolies, our disagreements likely reside in how we get to that point

[@cluelessmango768]

@@DmoneyS44 I recently have been reading a book on ethics and it read that if it were not for the many rules that are enforced today, companies would likely sell the most indecent inhumane stuff as long as there were a market for it. The book mentioned 'very explicit material pertaining to underage actors' as an expected good to be sold under a system without laws. Yeah, it makes sense in hindsight but I never though about it before I actually read it. It connects with the mass murders the VOC commited in that there was no leash keeping the VOC in check, they grew larger than the Dutch government and became an unstoppable force. This does not mean a no-government-anarcho-capitalist society wouldn't work (though there are many other arguments against anarcho-capitalism) but it would involve so much carnage, just horrible stuff, the most inhumane garbage imaginable.

[@erikadavis2264]

British East India Company, not English.

[@DmoneyS44]

@@erikadavis2264 An English company owned and ran by Englishmen, at points even commissioned british officers and british soldiers directly, based in England, with a charter from the English Crown and working in cooperation with the English government

[@spacegerrit9499]

"I won't pause." Pauses all the time.

[@seank5271]

Salt isnt a spice. Its a preservative

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

Classified as a mineral... too! 😅

[@Ayns.L14A]

both the Dutch and the British East India companies were totally autonomous just like the Hudson Bay Company.

[@Raadpensionaris]

Not really. They were tools of the government

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

Correction: Ottomans didn't change the name of Constantinople. The name was changed by Ataturk after the ottoman empire was abolished

[@darrenbuckley2082]

It had been going on for centuries before Portugal turned up, very interesting subject and often an eye opener for Americans, due according to other reactors, to the education they had received in school.

[@williambranch4283]

Americans are notably ignorant, and Europeans are all Oxford dons ;-)

[@seank5271]

Uruguay was part of Brazil and had a war for independence from Brazil. They got their independence and decided to do away with Portuguese in favor of Spanish as a language. I mention this because the Spanish spoken in Uruguay is unlike Spanish anywhere else in South America. Its kinda hybridised. Just an interesting fact l learnt living in Uruguay

[@lauraholland347]

Salt is not a spice- most countries have a good availability of salt.

[@iainsan]

What he said about the slave trade is not true. Europeans were not able to penetrate into Africa until the 19th century due to maleria. It was the 'Dark Continent', unknown except for the coast. They were only able to buy slaves from Africans until the British Royal Navy finally brought an end to the transatlantic trade in the 1850s. It was after that the invasion and colonisation began.

[@chrisisaac9007]

Stop bloody pausing

[@davidmarsden9800]

The slave trade was going on since ancient times, for far longer than before the Europeans got involved. The tribes in Nigeria captured and enslaved their enemies and others caught during raids and wars. This expanded to the Arab slavers who took slaves back to the slave markets of north Africa and Arabia and the middle east. The Europeans bought or traded with the tribes that dealt in slaves on the coast as it was dangerous to venture inland due to natives and wild animals, not to mention a lot of work and effort. The Europeans industrialised it to fulfil the expanding needs of the plantations in the various colonies. Britain abolished slavery years before the US. Slavery in Africa is still going on today especially to the middle East.

[@laziojohnny79]

We Dutch often call our country the 'B.V. NL' which translates into 'NL Ltd.'

[@Max_Flashheart]

In New Zealand, we would eat stuffing on Xmas Day and whenever we roasted a chicken for s Sunday Roast for the family.

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

Same here in the UK. I love stuffing and I bet he's never had a stew with DUMPLINGS !??? 😂😂😂

[@Max_Flashheart]

@@stewedfishproductions9554 Now I want stew with dumpling stuffing lol

[@richarddickson747]

Far too many interruptions.

[@janetkarssen]

Try putting a little nutmeg on/in mashed potatoes. I also sprinkle a little on string beans. I love the smell of nutmeg, it is warm and comforting and reminds me of home cooked meals ❤

[@ricardobrands9736]

The Dutch created the worlds first stock exchange so what u meen dont give them credit. I also like how Amnerica use to call itself the worlds first republic. tough we where a republic already when USA was still a idear. and the romans where so before us XD

[@Evocatorum]

The crusades had many purposes: to spread Catholicism, provide southern pressures to prevent islam from encrouching in to Europe, help with potential trade routes, but the primary purpose was to export violence from Europe to facilitate the power of the Church. And as far as Columbus, the dude was literally imprisoned in his on time for crimes against the peoples he encountered. The only reason he's such a part of american history was due to italian immigrants needing something to latch on to when they immigrated in to a country that treated them as animals. For example, In 1891, 11 itallians were lynched due to the incredibly xenophobic atmosphere of the US at the time for simply being italian. The VOC was a company that employed anyone they could, but only people who were dutch could get anywhere in the company of station. The fact that the Netherlands had 1.5million people but the VOC employed some 300,000 people should tell you that they must have employed for nationals.

[@worldcitizenB]

Salt is a mineral.

[@stirlingmoss4621]

it's ironic that an 'american' of all people should talk about a fascinating topic, spice, and then politicise the programme by denouncing everyone else for the ills of corporations, slavery and the slaughter of indiginous people for profit.

[@aronlukacs6911]

"OKAY, I washed my hands" - 2022, later colourized

[@Ayns.L14A]

Hi Connor ,in the UK we eat stuffing with Chicken and pork so......... quite often really..

[@stevelknievel4183]

When do I have stuffing? Every Sunday when I have a roast dinner.

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

Me too! Also on a turkey or chicken sandwich... Not just at Christmas.😊

[@magnusheridersson4338]

The Islamic conquest didn't just take over the Holy lands. North Africa was European essentially and Egypt was the bread basket of Europe. It caused the dark ages in Europe. The crusades were for economic reasons as well as spiritual.

[@grandetristesse3370]

Big desert egypt was definitely not the bread basket of EUROPE and the dark ages were refer to as "dark" just because the fall of the Roman Empire and the spread of diseases not because it was actually dark since Europe at that time was still more advanced then the whole world in fact them Muslims got civilized thanks to the Roman and Greek and Byzantine sciences and book and thier influence by persians lol sit down

[@magnusheridersson4338]

@@grandetristesse3370 No Egypt WAS the bread basket of Europe. You seem to assume the climate in that region hasn't changed which is a completely ignorant fallacy.

[@grandetristesse3370]

@@magnusheridersson4338 Europea is an entire continent perhaps greener then all of africa.... So ALL OF EUROPE needs lil Sahara egyt for food pls.... Well Europe was the civilization/sciences/learning source for Africa and we all can see that in Alexandria for example.... Again it's not that deep

[@magnusheridersson4338]

@@grandetristesse3370 It was a statement of fact. Egypt was the bread basket of Europe. The islamic conquest stopped that supply. It caused major problems. You can take it whichever way but you like but it is a factual statement. Instead of berating the supplier of that information perhaps you should show some humility and accept you didn't know that but now you do. End of convo.

[@letheas6175]

@@grandetristesse3370 Damn, you know nothing about food production in the past huh? You salty guy lol.

[@rmyikzelf5604]

Salt is not a spice.

[@mrd4785]

Contemplating that the VOC represented all Dutch people at the time is a bit like saying that McDonalds represents all Americans today, and their CEO is the president of the USA. Not everyone held shares in it. Some people held large stakes, others held smaller ones, but there were plenty with no financial interest whatsoever. Some people worked for them, and plenty of others didn't. All of my ancestors are English but I know that none of them worked for the East India Company or held any financial interest. While investors have voting rights in the company, day to day administration and decisions of the company are made by management and its board of directors. The VOC were big and very influential but despite their willingness to unilaterally wage wars in far away lands, largely at their own discretion, they didn't supersede the king or government, and they or their direct owners still had to pay tax to a higher authority. There just weren't a lot of rules at a time when there were no other companies to start with and there was a bit of a free for all going on in terms of collonial expansion. Its akin to two pizza restaurants in a similar location giving guns to their delivery drivers to fight over turf or like Irish and Italian gansters fighting over home turf in Boston back in the day in pursuit of monopoly ownership of that market. This was roughly 200 years before the industrial revolution and it was probably the only industry where either out of necessity or pragmatism, it made sense to pool enough money together to satisfy the capital outlay associated with taking a risk on buying ships, storage facilities, plantations, processing sites, jetties, roads, horses, equipment etc. Remember, if you were to put your life's savings into just 1 boat (if you were super rich) and it sank somewhere along the extremely lengthy and hazardous trade route, that one event could bankrupt you and there weren't avenues of recovery or government safety nets in place like there are today. It could be even worse if you borrowed some of the money to invest that you couldn't repay, because you'd have to attend debtors court, where you'd be found guilty of not making repayment and then be sentenced to a lengthy jail term alongside rapists and murderers, while your wife and children either had to rely on wider family, go into prostitution or beg in the street for survival. Just about all other business activities were cottage industries. Even banks were family owned businesses in the 1800s (e.g. the Warleggens in the novel Poldark). People who lent money were also frowned upon because it was considered by many as usury, which was illegal at one point and a religious sin. Until the late 1800's, advertising your own business goods or services was also considered an uncouth and low class method of boasting about one's self, that wreaked of desperation to improve your financial standing at a time when social class was rigid. It thus irked a lot of people to think that someone could attempt to improve their standing by buying status, despite having an inferior blood line. That's why people used to place such a high importance on marrying within or slightly above your social class, if you were lucky.

[@simdal3088]

This is a product of american education hence the al europeans are evil narative must be enforced. The nuance you justly make falls on deaf ears i'm afraid.

[@schiffelers3944]

Scientists have identified several pupil shapes. Most are related to an animal’s place in the food chain. Goats and other grazing prey animals have horizontal pupils that help them scan for stalking predators all around them while they have their heads down eating grass.

[@wesleydamen2018]

I like the pupils of cuttlefish its a , w

[@tonyharpur8383]

His reference to 'green meat' is echoed in a phrase we use in Ireland: a 'green ham'. That is an unsmoked, but salted ham.

[@stirlingmoss4621]

Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

[@RealConstructor]

The VOC transported between 600,000 to 1,135,000 slaves from Africa to America (North and South). Although a lot died, the VOC had the lowest mortality rate of slaves amongst all transporters in the ‘slave industry’. So I don’t think the VOC is the deadliest company in history, although they are probably in the top 10. Besides, the company IG Farben from Germany invented and produced the poison gas Zyklon B for the Nazis, which killed at least 1 million people. IG Farben knew what the gas was for when they delivered it hundred of times to the Nazi concentration camps. After WWII the company was split in three and sold to Bayer, BASF and Hoechst, companies that still exist. I don’t know if there were more deadly companies, but IG Farben is certainly deadlier than the VOC. And I think amongst companies in the weapons industry there are candidates also. For sure. So maybe the title of this video needs a think over.

[@riksnoek6068]

The VOC (or Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie ) literally means United East India Company.

[@andycooke6231]

I Georgian times if you where having a party for your rich friends you could hire a pineapple to impress them. Just don't damage it as you might have to pay for it.

[@simonhumphreys3034]

Stop friggin i ntertupting

[@vincenttayelrand]

In 1602 the Dutch government pretty much forced its biggest merchant houses to unify under the VOC banner - the idea being that together they would be more successful. It is important to point out that most of the VOC trade and consequent riches never even reached the shores Netherlands but stayed in Asia as it was hideously costly to maintain the Asian trading empire. When you visit the former headquarters of the VOC in Amsterdam its premises are surprisingly modest even by the standards of that age - befitting the mostly Calvinist Dutch merchant classes' belief not to show off wealth. The diminishing returns on the spice trade and corruption sealed the fate of the VOC by 1799. By that time the VOC was known by the common Dutch as 'vergaan onder corruptie' (sunk by corruption)

[@sese8976]

colombus wasnt even evil compared to his time period

[@nigelleyland166]

This reminds me that we used to get chestfulls of ceramics products from China, the british ate off Chinese plates, with the well known blue patterns, it was relatively cheap, manly due to how they were packed, in tea leaves, the tea was worth more here in the UK than the plates where! Food wasn't bland before we got spices from abroad, we have plenty of native herbs in Europe and a lot is no longer in generaal use. Stuffing is likely on every UK Sunday dinner plate, I make my own varoius stuffiings of all types normally refered to as farce. Correct Connor, the norsemen used to travers Eastern European Rivers in long boats to trade with the Middle east, they got Damascus steel for their swords and spices would have been much enjoyed. No the Dutch and British companies were privately owned, not state aligned. Their was another British Company, The Hudson Bay company it owned Canada, under licence from the King, the original charter document can be view to this day in I think Montreal, You willbe familiar with the company it stillexist today with stores all over Northern America,it held canada for 200 years until it's landwassolt to Canada in the 1800s.

[@grandetristesse3370]

China is just a rice farming country and Canada is a French British Invention lol

[@LodewijkVrije]

thinking of ceramics with well known blue patterns. actually make me think of Dutch "delft ware" at least if the specific kind of blue you mean is the blue im thinking of.

[@Mattdewit]

16:00 There were no more crusades after 1300 so getting the spice trade back was not a reason. But trade was a great benefit of the crusades, the Italians got some sweet deals which made them rich and helped to start the renaissance. The crusades also weakened Constantinople which quickened its fall.

[@Healingharp88]

Much like everybody else I have a lot of random facts rattling around in their head. And one of those is that during the first crusade the soldiers at some point were paid with black peppercorns. Video made me think of that so thought I'd share with the group

[@martineluteijn]

Something about the goat, prey has horizontal pupils and predators have vertical pupils

[@rmyikzelf5604]

The VOC was the first company in the world ordinary people could invest in by buying a share of a ship that was to be built. The return was a pro-rata cut of what ever cargo that ship would come back with. Soon after these shares could be bought and sold, creating the first stockmarket.

[@stephenlee5929]

Hi, nutmeg UK use it in sweet dishes, such as Creamed rice and Custard, it is also used in sauces and cakes, we also use it on warm drinks. It needs to be warmed to give its smell and taste, also should be grated fresh (comes as what appears to be a small nut about 3/4 inch long by 1/3 to 1/2 inch wide).

[@antiqueinsider]

In the US often grated onto egg nog. French prisoners (amongst others used it like snuff to give a hallucenognic high, and it's listed as a poison partly for that reason. The outer shell is ground up as a spice and called 'mace' (Foelie in some countries) it's quite bitter and pungent but is an essential part of many christmas-spiced foods.

[@MrRickkramer]

Goats have panoramic view, don’t know how many degrees of vision but a lot. Their pupil shape allows for that. Nutmeg is good on colli flower, Brussel sprouts and some meats.

[@lauraholland347]

The East India Companies had complete autonomy from their respective governments-a little complicated by the fact the EIC was disbanded in 1856 and it's operations were taken over by the British Government.

[@stirlingmoss4621]

Pope Alexander VI, who was Spanish, drew an imaginary line on a map 2,193 kilometers to the west of the Cape Verde Islands, gave Portugal the land to the east of this line, and gave Spain the land to the west of this line.

[@davidmarsden9800]

No they are both individual companies established by Royal Charter and with a Board of Directors and shareholders. The East India Company was dissolved in 1874 and restarted in 2010 by a British Indian entrepreneur and now sells Indian related items. The Dutch East India Company was taken over by The East India Company after the Napoleonic wars.

[@chrism7969]

Sort of, they were private companies, but nationally based They were a kind of state within state. So for example the British East India owned and controlled most of India and they could raise taxes there and had their own military to enforce their rule and that could conquer new Territories which would then belong to the company not the British government. The British government did not control them, though they were a British company. They were eventually taken over by the British Government, but prior to that they were independent. There is no modern equivalent. The nearest would be to imagine that company like Tesla can go off and conquer and rule large parts of the world. Those parts of the world would not belong to the American government but would belong to an American company.

[@williambranch4283]

See Blackwater aka Xe Services aka Academi. Also Wagner Group for Russia. The Fortune 500 is the modern equivalent, with Academi etc acting as the thugs.

[@chrism7969]

@@williambranch4283 Except those companies don't own territory and exploit their resources for their own profit. Blackwater etc are subcontractors to the government and paid for by the government and not independent entities in their own. The British East India company ruled India until it was taken over by the British. government.

[@williambranch4283]

@@chrism7969 Yes, the way they did it in the 19th century is inferior to the space age way we do things now. Mercs are mercs, and they operate with (privateers) or without (pirates) government approval. Yes, there is no neo-colonialism since 1945 ... all economic relations with the Third World since then, are socialist? Actually, Western colonial bureaucrats were traded for Native corporate bureaucrats ... but the same people are still being exploited to support London, Washington DC etc .. the only alternative (see Angola et al) is to be exploited by Moscow, Beijing or Havana.

[@chrism7969]

@@williambranch4283 Not sure that's entirely true. No doubt colonialism is responsible for some of the ills of the third world, but also those countries are perfectly capable of screwing things up for themselves. I doubt one could characterise Russia as a victim of Western colonialism, yet despite the hugeness of its agricultural capacity and it's vast raw material resources the majority of its population live in relative property with wealth concentrated in a few hands, whilst the West has little or no influence. We could also take India as an example, an economically strong ex colony with massive disparities between the wealthy and the poor, who make up the bulk of the population. As far as I know none of the Western military contractors operate I either of those countries. Also is Saudi Arabia or Qatar being exploited by the West? I'm not sure that's how I would describe their relationship with the West. The world is a much more complex and nuanced place than you are suggesting.

[@williambranch4283]

@@chrism7969 India purchases weapons from Russia ... and that isn't free, it is payed for by Babuji at the village level. He didn't ask for this, nor did he ask for Monsanto to destroy traditional agriculture. Neo-colonialism isn't Red Coats shooting Sikhs ;-) Yes, Russia has fake reformed serfdom several times. It isn't possible to make everyone rich, it is possible to make everyone poor, but nobody really wants to do that, whether London Bankers or local Marxist commissars.

[@a.e.gresel312]

The VOC was a unified company.of Dutch traders, whom were given a free hand of the Dutch government. This means that they were totaly free in how they run their operations. The army was a private army. No connection to the Dutch army. All this was copied from the english who started this 2 years earlier.. This Dutch company introduced the stock market for public trading. This went out of hand with the "Tulip mania" (thats a story on itself). After this happend the dutch government took measures to prevent this from happening again. Lateron the company was dismantled by the Dutch government and all the over sees territories the company owned became Dutch territories. A lot of them are given/traded back now.

[@vnesje1981]

As a Dutch person I think all that trade in spices and still all typical Dutch food is blend! 😂🤯

[@x_Dutchess_x]

We have them but most don’t know how to use them lmao😂

[@Vincrand]

Well we earned money by selling the goods, not by using them.

[@qualitytraders5333]

Blend? Probably "bland".

[@CliveBilby]

When else do we eat Stuffing? Christmas Dinner of course! [UK]

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

With a Sunday roast or a carvery. Also on a chicken or turkey sandwich too! I love stuffing! 😂😂😂

[@gerbentvandeveen]

The VOC, was a company. With its own army. Because the Netherlands was at war with Spain. That, in all, takes 80 years. We also have the first IPO ever. Citizens could buy shares of the VOC.

[@Draktand01]

The VoC being publically traded means the general public owned shares of the company, or stocks, giving you a certain share of the company’s ownership. This meant that just like today, the general public, and not the government, owned a company for the first time. Of course, just like with companies today, the VoC was probably still subject to Dutch juristiction to some extent, but that is not the same as ownership, just like how the government doesn’t own you just because you’re a citizen subject to their laws.

[@rmyikzelf5604]

The VOC was much more powerful than the government of the Dutch Republic. They were granted the power to wage wars, sign treaties, and basically act as a country by the Dutch Staten Generaal. The rich merchants were often part of the Dutch establishment, of course.

[@johnpaulmcdonnell6562]

sheep can look at an almost 360 view, hence the pupils. that's why most herbivores have there eyes at the side of there head and predators have there's in the front so they can focus in on there prey.

[@qualitytraders5333]

Do you know the difference between "there" and "their"?

[@tnightwolf]

20:00 That was only "fair" because the Line that got approved was not the one presented by Portugal. The Pope at the time, decided in favour of the Spanish proposal because there were family links between him and the Spanish Crown. Portugal just decided that they would go inwards and if there was to be war so be it. Eventually Spain realized they also had everything they wanted on the northern hemisphere, so they kinda let it go... there was space for 2 after all.

[@schiffelers3944]

23:42 min. in - "too much credit", yes and no, it was not so much the invention of a corporation, but the re-invention of this into a public corporation. So, it is the start of stocks in, the stock market a la Wallstreet. (Dutch aka Holland in this specific case.) First financial stock crash was with the Tulip craze. I'm Dutch, but from Limburg, like Friesland we have some alternatives on the narrations of "the Dutch" we are also Dutch but different provinces. We had different duchies so to speak, that later formed unions - think about the 7 United Dutch Republics. Holland was one of them so to speak. A reason why the Netherlands got referred to as "Holland" by the rest of the world. Rotterdam is the port city and with the Volga route it basically was Antwerp port city and Rotterdam port city. Remember Belgium also ones were part of "the Netherlands", they are also low-lands - more or less, they speak a form of Dutch/Flemish. The Dutch MERCHANTS - we here can tie in social hierarchies and structures - Merchants had a position outside the main structure. Social hierarchy, with the Church or later the Monarchy at the top, their loyal group, a military/power/fighting class in between for protection, and the working and poor beneath this, and the slaves beneath that. Slavery did not start with the Atlantic slave trade. Dutch history: The REVOLT of the Netherlands (the union, which created a monarchy for legitimacy; The Dutch King of Orange-Nassau, more or less but from Germanic Blood.) against the Spanish Rule. [1568] aka the 80 years war. It "started" with the Spanish execution of Counts Egmont and Horne in Brussels. (Belgium was part of the Netherlands) The tensions that lead to this however had much earlier origins. We also been under French rule. Money = Power / Wealth = Power. You can buy off and your way through life. You influence people with donations. etc. So, VOC and the Dutch / Holland, and how we became "the Netherlands". Looking at the history of Limburg, we are located in Belgium, a slither of Belgium stayed/returned to the Netherlands, to keep the Maas-river in the control of the Netherlands/Holland. (Holland / Zealand) And out of the hands of the Germans/Prussians. There are parts of ancient Limburg territory in modern day Germany. It was a battle of tribes/duchies/kingdoms/cities (capitols, think Maastricht City) and things alike. The castles scattered around and ruins of ancient days. Social hierarchy power and rule. And the people, like me. There are differences. I identify more with Limburg than with "The Netherlands" as a whole. I am Dutch and from the Netherlands, but specifically identify as Limburger. Why in our culture we also talk about the divisions below and above rivers. The Netherlands is basically split in half by the great rivers, the natural border that kept the Roman Empire on one side and the Germanic/Frisii tribes on the other. (In a nutshell not specifics and details.)

[@rmyikzelf5604]

No, tulip mania had nothing to do with the stock market.

[@Rob-yj9ew]

the way you reacted to his introduction, great! your knowledge of the world is way better then most Americans. With guys like you we can still have hope for America(ns). Salt is a mineral, spices are organic, they are both seasonings, but salt is a mineral we need in low quantaties, spices we want!

[@TRW98]

The eyes of goats are that way so that they have a wider view and can spot predators easier.

[@dorothysimpson2804]

My mother sprinkled nutmeg on rice pudding, custard tarts have nutmeg on top of the custard Have you watched The British Crusade against the Slave Trade?

[@cbronoord]

Sheep are often prey. Hunters have their eyes forward to focus on their prey. Prey have their eyes to the sides to keep track of their surroundings, so that they can flee.

[@dawnmaster68]

nope ... under the VOC ... sailers were dutch, german, danish, polish, swedish, etc etc etc.... the meterials shipped were owned by the traders that funded the ships and the VOC was so powerfull it had it's own judicial system.

[@schiffelers3944]

Real final thought of mind: 2006 Dutch Premier Jan-Pieter (Jan-Peter) Balkenende Jr. CDA party [Christian Democratic Appeal]. Was prime minister of NL from July 22, 2002 to October 14, 2010. He was the Dutch "Harry Potter". He talked about the Balkenende norm, putting a cap on how much one is "allowed" to earn in NL> this never came to be. He is also known for his sentiment: NL should be prouder of our VOC history, and he was talking about the mentality - he specified, not the monstrosities. As if these could be separated. Put this along the other things happening globally - 9/11 scared the globe western and middle eastern most.

[@juliusfucik4011]

I never eat stuffing, but I do eat bread Knödel. Same thing. Very tasty.

[@darrenbuckley2082]

Roast chicken sunday dinner with sage and onion stuffing.

[@stewedfishproductions9554]

Yum! Yum! 👍👍👍

[@derpeek]

Why creating the VOC? In other countries the endeavours where initiated by the king who used the money from the treasury (tax). The Netherlands back than had no king. so it was a private initiative. This is a dark part of the Dutch history..

[@renekuipers4563]

The Dutch sell .New York New Amsterdam for trees in Indonesia .Banda island ..

[@scipioafricanus5871]

Thought NY was exchanged for Suriname?

[@renekuipers4563]

@@scipioafricanus5871 Your right .The deal was Englisch New Amsterdam..The Netherlands.6 islands Caribien .The country Suriname.an the monopoly in Indonesia..trade..But iam not proud to say .The Netherlands distroy a compleet continent ..whit opium ..trade .The Chinese still angry about that...till now .The Dutch control almost all drugs in the world ..Still today we are the biggest drugs exporter in the world ..Not that the goverment suport that .But the old boys network is still there .sn they use the international trsding off the Dutch..We are traders ..the founder of the free marked system 500 years ago...The Dutch are a big player in trading..You can see it also in Walll street ..Dutch Wal straat ...

[@lauraholland347]

Pepper is the most useful universal spice- I would rather have pepper than salt. We eat stuffing balls with roasted pork, turkey, and chicken. 450km from Bethlehem, a pretty chunky journey in ancient times- you are certainly not doing more than 30km a day on horse/camel back. Europeans did not usually round up Africans- they bought them from African traders, even later on malaria and other tropical diseases meant Europeans couldn't spend much time there without having a very high chance of dying. The East India Companies were completely independent of their governments, the water is muddied somewhat (just like today) by the fact lots of government ministers being directors and shareholders,however, the British East India company stepped out of line so much it caused the Indian mutiny and it was disbanded by the British Government in 1856.

[@davidmarsden9800]

Constantinople didn't become Istanbul until 1930. The Orient Express still called it that for longer and it remained in common usage. Just like other places that change their name. Bombay/mumbai, Ceylon/Sri Lanka, Kiev/Kyiv for example, but people will still use the name they're used to.

[@Derry_Aire]

Who still calls Sri Lanka Ceylon? It can only be a few crinkly old dinosaurs way past their sell-by-date.

[@davidmarsden9800]

@@Derry_Aire including you judging by your music and cat loving tastes on your channel.

[@letheas6175]

@@Derry_Aire Actually, me, and I'm a white 29 year old dude. Lol. Nothing wrong with liking history. Like, I know many Taiwanese that would rather be called Formosans, you know, people have different opinions lol.

[@Lanceymelv]

6:01 goats can basically see 360 & its to keep them safe from predators

[@connorhowitt9164]

totally expected you to go, NO america made the first publicly-traded company! xD

[@willemthijssen1082]

16:20 No, the crusades happened long before Constantinople fell to the Ottomans. There is some debate over what caused them, whether it was purely religious, whether the pope just wanted peace in Europe by sending all the soldiers to the Levant, or if material gains were also part of it. Regaining control over the spice trade, however, was not part of that, since Constantinople was still Christian. The fact that Constantinople was threatened by the Seljuk Turks did contribute to the crusades, but that is another can of worms entirely.

[@thomaslowdon5510]

Stuffing is eaten most sundays in uk with pork and chicken ..standard menu fayre..

[@gerritvalkering1068]

The Crusades were when the Byzantine Empire still existed, but yes, it was an attempt, among things, to gain a stronger foothold in the spice trade

[@InquisitiveBaldMan]

"Are they all still dutch in the dutch east india company?" I get your point but there really isn't any loyalty as soon as money is involved. Not even in the ordinary military. Didnt you watch the video about napoleon's nemesis sidney smith? He was knighted by the swedish navy or something?! Literally even the highest level generals would go off and fight for other armies for a price. The british empire is bigged up to be a great british conquest but it wasn't... It was simply driven by weight of money invested into the conquest. Later on, after problems, the crown took over and victoria became empress of india but the vast majority of the success was a result of simple capitalism.

[@zenonorth1193]

Nice that you washed your hands, but my IP includes an anti-bacterial filter (no extra charge) so no problem.

[@R69E]

You can’t compare the early 17th century with now. The war started about 1568 so the most people didn’t know what peace was.

[@dawatcherz]

no need to apologize for columbus, all he did was discover a continent by accident. other than that he did nothing that everybody else in the world wasn't also doing.

[@joostprins3381]

VOC was a company, lot of people owned stocks, but of course the politicians and nobility had the most and profited the most.

[@schiffelers3944]

Final thought, I liked the original, something not given by algorithms in my personal feed. I enjoyed your reactions to the video. Remember Corporation is linguistically linked to "corpus" [Lat.]; Body, often a dead body. There is no soul in this entity. (Playing with words here)

[@bucklberryreturns]

Re. Columbus. Good people, do bad things. Bad people, do good things. You cannot write someone off completely because of bad deeds/words/thoughts. If you do, then you should forego everything that you benefit due directly to their actions.

[@Sarge80]

Just, the new world wasnt discovered first by colombus, a few centuries earlier it had already been discovered by the vikings.

[@schiffelers3944]

My dad loved to put nutmeg on loads of things, often on veggies. Spruiten, bloemkool, but also on potatoes. Weid thing is my body doesn't like spices as much as he did. He also put sambal in plenty of things - when smaller my sister wanted to try and kept asking to try and she then had a tiny bit: hot jam. She didn't like that surprise, but my parents kept warning no this is hot/spicy, you will not like it. Just thinking off this make my body react like I ate hot spice. This happened after I once had food from a different culture that was spicey. The food/spoon touched my lips, and it was as if someone had thrown a bucket of water over me. Sweating like crazy, burning lips, redness, little plumping of the lips, etc. She put loads of ginger in it. Looking hot ones is always as if I ate spice, the way my body reacts.

[@lauraholland347]

Europe never controlled the land spice routes- that's why they developed the sea routes. Europeans didn't do much of the kidnapping, originally they were prisoners of war from tribal wars, but obviously this couldn't match demand-so African leaders rounded up neighbours and enemies and sold to Europeans. Europeans couldn't spend more than a few weeks in Africa, because significant numbers would die of disease-so kidnapping trips into the interior were not practical.

[@mildandbitter]

Yeah great intro, like you it took me a few seconds before I got the point.

[@gerbentvandeveen]

It was the biggest company EVER! 7.9 TRILLION! But, was it human? No! But our world is built from this. Greetings from Spakenburg, The Netherlands.

[@kingspeechless1607]

It was certainly "human", although it might not have been 'humane.'

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@kingspeechless1607 It was managed by the faceless Herren XVII.

[@rmyikzelf5604]

Nutmeg...use it on green beans, in cheese sauce or fondue.

[@sluischris]

about half of the people working for the VOC were Dutch. Most from Germany, Belgium and France.

[@letheas6175]

Actually many were also from the Baltic Sea areas. Cheap labour so that the Dutch themselves could specialise in certain crafts that were more profitable.

[@MartinIrma]

It's actually the United East Indian Companies.

[@gerbentvandeveen]

It has different eyes because a Goat. Can see 260 degrees, so also a large part of what is happening behind him. And, they see everything in black and white. Greetings from Spakenburg, The Netherlands.

[@seank5271]

All bananas grown today are from an ENGLISH (UK) breed. The Brits managed to developed a variety that is now the global ancestor

[@antiqueinsider]

But since the Cavensish variety is mostly all cloned from a single plant it is vulnerable to disease which could quickly obliterate the current banana industry. Botanists are busy trying to 're-cultivate' new varieties which would add to the genetic diversity.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@antiqueinsider Plantains: Botanists, are we a joke to you?

[@MichaelJohnsonAzgard]

Why don't you create a video about the history of Thanksgiving? I'll have stuffing on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Year's Day, Easter and with a Sunday roast... Basically all year.

[@eZTarg8mk2]

The british empire...built on our addiction to flavours and stimulants. As to the autonomy of the companies...they held a lot of power that their own countries had to navigate very carefully when dealing with them...kinda like today with tax evasion by the largest companies, that countries turn a blind eye to, except these guys could physically overthrow you

[@letheas6175]

Also the highest valued company of all time, more than apple/google/whatever the popular things are atm combined.

[@tonybaker55]

And then we got the Spice Girls.😄

[@Scar_tisseu-86]

Africans weren't the first slave. The first European slaves on record are actualy the Irish.

[@enemde3025]

I never buy or use salt on anything and won't have it in my house . It's bad for your heart !!