American Reacts to Typical European Car Size VS Typical American Car Size

[@nicholaswhithorn7228]

Here in Italy a Fiat 500X like the one you showed would be for a family. A single person is more likely to have a standard Fiat 500, which is way smaller.

[@nicholaswhithorn7228]

And speaking of Fiat 500s, you might find this video on the original Fiat 500 from the 1960s interesting. A Fiat 500 in America. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWmphaZ5o5hqqbs

[@dacartrainguy]

I have the cousin Jeep Renegade Trailhawk instead... and even if I'm single, I use it with my family

[@hendrikvoss9368]

Isn't the 500X bigger than a basemodel 500? never seen a 500X in germany, though i know they exist

[@dacartrainguy]

@@hendrikvoss9368 there's the Fiat 500 family: the little citycat Fiat 500, that looks like the original one from the 60', then there's the Fiat 500L, which is a family car that looks like a minivan, and it was offered with 5 and 7 seats, and then there's the crossover Fiat 500X, a small size SUV that shares some mechanics and the chassis with the Jeep Renegade. So, yes, the Fiat 500X is way bigger than the Fiat 500

[@hendrikvoss9368]

@@dacartrainguy good to know, thanks.

[@DAEGLES]

6:55 and that's not even a normal Škoda Octavia. That's an Offroad Trim version. Lifted for more ground clearance. I actually never saw that one on the streets in Germany...

[@karstenburanaphim5009]

Yep it's the Scout 4x4 version.

[@-leprincemkii-8118]

And Octa is biggest in it's segment

[@juriverhoeven167]

Its classifide as a Estate Crossover so its a little bit of everything but the base-model its not.

[@-leprincemkii-8118]

@@juriverhoeven167 i mean compact car Cuz it's bigger golf

[@bremCZ]

They are a dime a dozen in Czech Republic.

[@fryke]

The Fiat 500X is a family car. You probably meant to select the Fiat 500. The "X" is the crossover, same base as the Jeep Renegade. The normal Fiat 500 is a 3 door smol car.

[@WooShell]

The regular Fiat 500 could have fit onto the bed of the F350..

[@KalleKilponen]

Heck, even the modern 500 is pretty spacious. My wife has two siblings and her family had various generations of the Fiat Punto as their family car for her entire childhood. (And they used to go on long road trips all the time.)

[@fryke]

@@KalleKilponen I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I had a 2012 Fiat 500 and later on a 2022 Fiat 500e, and I wouldn't call those exactly spacious. The Punto, although still a small car, is definitely roomier. For example: The 500 does not have 3 seats in the back, only two people have seats, very closely together.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@WooShell. And a Fiat 124 could park Under the F-350 .

[@lws7394]

The Fiat 500 is not a family car. You hardly can travel with 4 people for a longer trip.with suitcases. nor is this slightly bigger Renault Clio. It's bigger brother Renault Megane is a family car , an equivalent to the VW Golf Nor would I call the

[@p3chv0gel22]

I think i've only ever seen two kinds of people drive Pick ups here in Germany: 1.) Workers, who use them as a company truck 2.) weirdos, who say the need one because it's manly

[@Phiyedough]

Farmers have them.

[@juppzmuda9725]

3.) People who just like em and don't give a f*** what other people think about them

[@GoldenCroc]

@@juppzmuda9725 Yeah, but thats a extremely miniscule amount as a percentage. Way below 1% for sure. Category 2 are easily more common by 10-20 times.. or more... So its quite plausible he has actually only seen category 1 and 2, just as he said.

[@halla9538]

There is a guy in our village who drives a big F-150 around as his daily car. Always wondered why he needed it. Saw him two days ago hauling the biggest boat i have ever seen. There is no big lakes or rivers anywhere near us for that thing.. Now im wondering why he has a big boat.

[@SpardauDebesi]

​@@juppzmuda9725Coupe

[@chrstiania]

the ironic thing is that you haven't actually checked out the "small car" selection we have in Europe. All the cars you checked out would be mid-size in Europe. The actual Fiat 500 or Panda, Renault Twingo, Mini cooper, Toyota Aygo, VW Up, Skoda CitiGo or a Smart. And even the original Smart isn't the smallest car anymore. There is the Smart ForTwo and even crazier or whatever the Renault Twizy is.

[@BeErnyify]

The Twizy is a scooter, but your point still stands… Plus check out all the „limited to 25 km/h cars“ they’re tiny…

[@MrShadow1617]

@@BeErnyify Didn't the limit go to 45 km/h on those "scooter" cars? I imagine they would otherwise be too slow for normal roads with 50 km/h speed limit.

[@MrShadow1617]

VW Up! and Skoda CityGo are basically the same caron the outside, just with a few optical differences and badging.

[@la-go-xy]

​@@MrShadow1617Aren't 25 km/h the limit for pedelecs?

[@phantomviper8297]

Minis no longer qualify as 'small cars' I mean... Have you seen the newest clubman? Or countryman? xD

[@SwitchingPower]

It is not uncommon to have something like VW golf as a family car with 2 kids

[@That_guy-s2l]

But that case, the combi variant of the Golf is more common than the Regularien one

[@jantimmerby]

​@@That_guy-s2lI guess it depends on where you live. In Denmark, a golf is a common family car, but you don't see golf combi very often.

[@stajpi]

vw golf 7 owner here, with three kids... best car ever :)

[@SlosII]

@@stajpi Octavia Mk3 estate owner here, one kid.... 1.0 tsi DSG best car ever.... why are these guys in the US driving these enormous SUV, it's so pointless and unnecessary... I just don't get it. The Octavia carries our family all over europe on holidays, over the alps, through germany, France, Italy,... comfortably and economically.... nobody needs anything else if we're perfectly honest.

[@stajpi]

@@SlosII maybe they have something really really small, so then need something big to feel manly again?

[@Gnom1999]

Try to find a parking space in a normal European city with a Yukon. Then you will understand why most cars here are smaller 😀

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Smaller? Yeah, but cars today are too big and I'm not even mean EV.

[@TarisSinclair]

You could probably park a Yukon in a normal European city, no problem. But you'd have to park it in the center of a main avenue. Take up the middle lane, half of the left and half of the right. That leaves you just enough room to open the door on either side before you hit the buildings on the street. :D

[@Gnom1999]

@@XtreeM_FaiL the difference in length between golf 1 and golf 8 is about 40 cm... but is still a little shorter than a Yukon 😉

[@nukers1234]

Pff, that Yukon is easy, try to find space for an Excursion ;)

[@TarisSinclair]

@@nukers1234 Excursion requires majority of a European town square. ;)

[@JohnDoe-us5rq]

Actually, the Fiat 500X is not the little one. It's the SUV variety 😅

[@IWrocker]

Whoops haha even more crazy how the standard 500 would’ve looked then 😂

[@АлександрАнтипин-к6д]

​@@IWrocker stack 5 wheels from Ford-150 into a pyramid shape - and you have it

[@markant500]

The GMC is as aerodynamic as a brake parachute. 🤣

[@Outside85]

And the momentum of a glacier.

[@MordorProject]

It look lt a brick on wheels.

[@That_guy-s2l]

If the visual comparison to the skoda is acurate, you need a smal ladder to evectivly do stuff on your engine. Thats unbelivebil!

[@DaweSlayer]

@@MordorProject It basically is. Only 2,5t is disappointing thou.

[@sergeleon1163]

A better Euro comparison to the GMC Yukon would be with an BMW X7 or Mercedes GLS though still more aerodynamic :)

[@prjw73]

An Octavia is a seriously large family car. If you can't fit a family in there, get a taxi van.

[@BeErnyify]

A) how big would your family have to be? B) reduce luggage if you have that sort of problem You can fit a family of five and a dog in a 90s passat with lots of room to spare (it was a big care even then, let alone today)

[@BeErnyify]

*car not care

[@afiiik1]

4 kids

[@Nordlicht05]

I know someone they always drive with two cars on holiday two kids only and one dog 😅 for me it sound crazy but yea I don't criticise it

[@kenbrown2808]

and my wife is worried the one we're renting on vacation won't be big enough for the two of us. of course, that's kind of a statement about her luggage habits.

[@kevanwillis4571]

I used a Cadillac Esplanade in Europe for three years. The most common response from passers-by was laughter, at how ridiculously big it was. Secondly, annoyance at me having to take up four spaces in supermarket car parks.😅😅😅 So glad when it was replaced by a Mercedes V Class.

[@nukers1234]

You should try the big brother, Ford Excursion. I need 4 normal parking spaces to park it if i have people with me. Just 2 in lenght and 1,5 in width if i driving alone :P

[@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele]

And the Mercedes V class is not small at all, for European standards!

[@garethbattersby]

Ahh yes downsizing... to a V Class. 😢

[@nukers1234]

@@garethbattersby Well, it's smaller than the other cars mentioned here, so its downsizing :P

[@MrShadow1617]

V-class is basically the minibus passenger version of the Vito van, did you get the normal version or the slightly longer one? Those few cm in lenght can make a huge difference when trying to park in the city.

[@elmarwinkler6335]

Ian, sir, in Europe we do not have the amount of space, you have. Our Cities are tight, our parking spaces too. You need 2 of those parking spaces for one US car. I have seen it. Gasoline is also much more expensive. I drive an electric Compact SUV from Korea, that fits in those spaces and have room to spare inside. Respectful Greetings to you and yours, Elmar from Germany

[@VoodooMcVee]

Yup, in Germany a standard parking spot is 2.5 x 5.0 meters, so this Yukon would be quite a bit too long for most parking lots here. In addition, with its length and height, it would not fit through the access ramps of most multi-storey car parks, or would definitely have severe problems manoeuvring.

[@MrMartinSchou]

The page needs to add another three figures to the chart: 1) An average 5-year-old child. 2) An average 10-year-old child. 3) An average adult. Place them as close to the hood as you can with the caveat that the entire head needs to be visible from the driver's seat assuming an average height driver. The height of the hood of many SUVs and trucks is terrifying once you realise that you cannot see children while driving them.

[@Defhrone]

also the silhouettes should be that of the 'average american' vs the 'average european'. I think that would explain some of the reasons why their cars are so large xD

[@IQEGO]

The hood of the Yukon is in the same height as the Skoda's roof. Terrifying. I have this Skoda and I can't imagine how many people I would have killed with the Yukon.

[@MrMartinSchou]

@@IQEGO Scary indeed. I'm 6'4" (194 cm tall). I've stood next to an US truck (I think it was a Dodge RAM) where the hood seemed to be at my shoulder height.

[@IQEGO]

@@MrMartinSchou Basically a pedestrian killing machine.

[@MrMartinSchou]

@@IQEGO That seems to be more of a side effect. And some people would consider it a bonus, thinking that being a pedestrian means you're "woke" and/or poor.

[@SiqueScarface]

When I was a child, my parents bought a Trabant as family car. As a family of four, we all fitted into the car, and we used it for long vacation trips including camping gear - the longest trip being three weeks of camping from Eastern Germany until the Black Sea in Bulgaria, making this a trip of more than 2500 miles or 4000 km. Yes, you can do it. And Polish families did it with the even smaller Fiat 126p.

[@sandersson2813]

Jesus, that must have been miserable.

[@phillipevans9414]

Yeah, even here in Australia you wouldn't be able to park it - our standard parking space is 5m long, and that Ford F350 is 6.35m long. I own (as a classic) an aussie, long wheelbase, extra large luxury sedan ('93 Ford NC Fairlane) which is a bit of a "land yacht" here, and it is 5.12m long (which is about as big as cars got here, before we started bringing these american behemoths). Cheers!

[@erwin6395]

Growing up, my mom drove a 1.0L Ford Fiesta Mk1 with a staggering 40HP. It would do 140kph downhill with a tailwind 🙂It was our only car for 1 adult and two teenagers for 8 years until it got shortened 30cm by a stupid Toyota van. After that, a Peugeot 205 GR. Excellent car when it worked...

[@NenadTrajkovic]

True, the Poles came with 126 with camping trailers and cargo on the roof to the Adriatic Sea, but they would sell them to the Yugoslavs before returning to Poland

[@SiqueScarface]

@@sandersson2813 To the contrary. It's one of my best memories of my childhood.

[@danielrauer5864]

Kids dropped off at school by SUV: most kids in Germany ride a bike or take the bus to school. My kids ride balance bikes since age 3 and ride bikes since being 4, we rode together to Kindergarten and elementary school. When I hat to visit secondary school 20km away I either took the bus (2 hours incl. waiting) or rode by bike with some friends. Today I drive big german car (VW Passat, so lower-to-mid size for the US), going on vacations with the family for 3 weeks, towing trailers and once a caravan, 4 bikes on a hinge-mount, and much more.

[@artpan4376]

Parking an American car in any European city would be a mission impossible.

[@Stangler96]

It is. I live in Budapest, Hungary and I know a lad who owns a ford f150. He lives in the nearby hills and works on a farm so he does need it. He took the ford to the city only once. He searched for a parking space for two hours and he only found one, three bus stops away from where he had to go. He never cam to the city with that ford ever since. When he have to he takes his wife's vw golf

[@artpan4376]

. I live in Belgium, in the countryside and I also have many neighbours with US trucks, but they use it for business. Otherwise using such a car without a specific purpose doesn't make sense except vanity.

[@artpan4376]

I think, if in the US fuel prices would be the same as in Europe, people would make more sensible choices.

[@Hipas_Account]

I own a 91 Chevy Caprice, and here in Finland i do sometimes struggle to find a spot, but it's not as bad as one might think, but then again Finland has a very different type of traffic than most central European cities, and American cars here in the Nordic countries tend to be more common as well.

[@MLWJ1993]

You need 2 spaces, if you can get to the parking lot that is! 😂

[@burnrubber7547]

I would have compared the crown Victoria to a ford mondeo. Both ford's and the mondeo is a similar type of car. With the suvs lol, people here in the uk complain about how obnoxious ours are. People would loose their shit if they were American sized. It just wouldn't fit anywhere here.

[@la-go-xy]

There are already too many cars coming to the schools (in Germany). If they were as big as in US it would be so much worse. Nobody would see the kids any more, making it even more dangerous.

[@AltCutTV]

Yeah, if it is a commonly used service vehicle in US, it should probably have been compared to whatever such are on average in EU. They are typically not on the smaller or even lower mid end here.

[@thierryf67]

they should have compared cars of the same or analog segments

[@alexanderkupke920]

​@@AltCutTVsame thought, some Mercedes comes to mind or a BMW 5 or even 7 family car. The Yukon for practicality, I think I would compare with a Mercedes Vito, VW T6, Ford Transit, those would be the comparable sizes used here. For the Renault Clio, comparing to Ford the Fiesta comes to my mind, but that might be actually a Ford Europe model that never was sold in the US

[@bremCZ]

Skoda Superb would be a good comparison.

[@evilroman1sobieski756]

My understanding is that the emissions regs in the US are a lot easier on trucks than on sedans so the companies go with truck type vehicles to avoid the more expensive engine regs to make more profit.

[@lizvickers7156]

They don't have a yearly safety check that we do in the uk. Most of the cars on the roads of America are probably not road worthy or safe to drive. I know which car or truck I would be buying and it's not something from America.Big trucks for big Americans with big heads. Very apt.

[@andreww2098]

CAFE rules are the reason, US exhaust emissions are based on vehicle footprint not engine size, so rather than spend the money to research more efficient engines they just put a less advanced design in a larger vehicle and call it done

[@IWrocker]

Bingo

[@JazHaz]

Stupid. Blame you for a lot of carbon emissions.

[@kenbrown2808]

CAFE is nowhere near that simple, and in fact, CAFE standards are based on a complicated average of all the miles driven by all the vehicles a manufacturer sells. which means the more tiny efficient cars they sell, the more big gas guzzlers they are allowed to sell. so CAFE rules are better used to explain why every seller in America has an electric car on the market. but while I didn;t find documentation, my understanding is that footprint is based on wheel position, which would partially explain why wheels are being pushed closer to the corners, and overhangs are getting smaller. but the primary reason for that is that bigger wheelbase gives a better ride, and doesn't put wheelwells in the middle of the cargo space.

[@astankov84]

In Europe there's 3.5 tons weight limit on the vehicles with engine and 4.2 tons for EV. If the vehicle exceed that weight you need grade C driver license wich is for professional truck drivers. Saying that to just keep in mind why vehicles aren't so big here excluding the fuel and tax prices of course.

[@Anson_AKB]

yes, and that weight is the max total weight, not the actual current weight that the car/truck has while "just driving around" solo and without cargo. And thus quite a few "big american cars" are considered to be "small european trucks" with quite a few additional restrictions concerning license and use of the car/truck. Until "some" years ago, the limit was 7.5 tons for the normal car license, which still applies to my license as "grandfather ruling". And when the UK had a shortage of truck drivers after Brexit, they tried to convince older resident Europeans to change jobs and drive a truck, but i wonder why successfull older bankers and housewives wouldn't take that offer, LOL

[@astankov84]

Yes I forgot to mention that the limit is for total weight vehicle plus cargo. I don't know about UK but here in Bulgaria there's been always 3.5 tons limit and never been 7.5 tons.

[@kenbrown2808]

and here, a person can take their driving test in a Fiat 500, and then get behind the wheel of a 40 foot coach towing a 30 foot trailer on the same license. which seems a bit silly to anyone logical.

[@Anson_AKB]

@@kenbrown2808 TLDR : a truck plus trailer of 70 feet (21.3m) total length would generally be illegal in germany, no matter which type of license the driver has. in more detail : Driving licenses in germany have different classes for motorbikes, cars, trucks, buses, etc, and thus many of the big "private trucks/suv/etc" would be illegal to drive in germany with a normal car (up to 3.5 tons total weight) license. And also the max length of trucks is different depending on details and type, but usually only 16.5m (54 feet) for semis and 18.75m (61.5 feet) for trucks with trailer (that's one of the reason why european trucks rarely have a "nose" which takes away from that max length). Max weight for trucks is 40 tons (in some cases up to 44 tons). Special longer and heavier trucks with permit on a case by case basis are possible, and also "long-trucks" which may be up to 25.25m (83 feet), but only on some predetermined subset of the entire road network.

[@MrBluePoochyena]

@@Anson_AKB Then you come to the northern EU like Finland where the max truck weight can be 76 tons and with a permit easily 100 tons is seen. US Semis would struggle with that 76 tons untuned, which is why we have trucks with way higher torque & hp numbers. Cummins ISX15 which is US best engine power & tq wise tops at 600hp 2050ftlb (and seems to be rare vs way weaker models) vs Scania DC16 at 770hp 3700nm (2729ftlb) or the Volvo D17 with 780hp 3800nm (2802ftlb) which are way more common than you'd think at least here in the north. Casually on my normal drives I'll see at least 3 of those top trim models and 6 of the slightly weaker ones which still have more tq than US ones.

[@fb4533]

Remember that in Europe, towns are old, back to medieval times. It is sometimes difficult for a big car to pass through the street. By the way, (minimal) sizes of parking places in France are 5m long by 2.30m large (16.4" x 7.55" for feet users 😁), so when you've got a car that exceeds those sizes (Dodge Ram), you could imagine the problem.

[@Nordlicht05]

Roads are often a little too narrow. I mean why some busses or trucks are allowed to drive there? On the edge that no one can drive their anymore. Yep often they can't to anything against.... But new streets with new houses are build on purpose crappy. Super narrow if the garbage truck comes no one can drive around. And additional 90°bents where you can't see children on their bicycles. There are no footpaths. It's already a 7kph zone everywhere but this is done that people drive slow... Make the street shitty 😂

[@fcava]

@@Nordlicht05 on some streets busses and trucks are not allowed to drive on it...

[@Nordlicht05]

@fcava I imagine this would be bike lanes 😂. Because the normal streets here with mental struts on the corners can't even handle a car and a bus on a corner. But to be fair they are a lot bigger as some streets I saw in Italy

[@fcava]

@@Nordlicht05 you never went in the north of Italy, around our lakes like the Lario (or, as strangers knows it, Como Lake).... But also Iseo lake, Garda, Idro.... Or in some mountain's road... And in Italy whe have a lot of mountains....

[@fcava]

@@Nordlicht05 ah.... We have few bike lanes.... Just some cities are flat.... And there are really few bike lanes (now)

[@martindonat3249]

even if the outer shells are much smaller , the interior isnt that much smaller ,at least in middleclass and up ,some of the largest american cars feel cramped inside compared to they outer shell

[@Kent.]

The Crown Vic is a good example... look at the overhang from the wheels.

[@IWrocker]

Yes that’s true. I love my Crown Victoria, but they are famously small inside especially when you see how big they are on the outside

[@Anson_AKB]

@@IWrocker hehe, it's the opposite of the tardis where everybody says _"it looks much bigger from the inside than from the outside"_ :-)

[@matthijszeeman5351]

The reverse is also true. I was always amazed how roomy my wife's tiny Toyota Aygo (1st gen) was and how much legroom there was. Also a very fun car to drive as long as you stay under 80kph.

[@lws7394]

@@IWrocker What is absolutely SHOCKING is the safety of the Yukon and other SUV/light trucks for both outsiders and inside passangers ! Since 2012 since the F150 became standard in US the number of traffic fatalities went 30% up to over 40k deaths nowadays (whereas other oecd countries showed a stabile or slight decreasing figure ). The impact to pedestrians at collision with the Yukon at a 'safe speed' of 30kmh (20mph) is equal to the Skoda Octavia at like 70 kmh (45 mph) , with a 50% death probability ! They are way dangerous at even safe speeds. And they are not even safe for the occupants driving it ! Because of the height and high wheel axle the Yukon has a high gravity point, which makes it very prone to socalled Roll Over accidents (and these are often one vehicle incidents). They fail miserably at the Swedish moose avoidance test that was in the news 20 years ago. The death rate for occupants in roll overs is really high. 7-8k people die in Roll Over accidents in USA , good (or 'bad' , how you look upon it ) for 1/3 of all vehicle occupant traffic deaths in the US. ! That they are even allowed on the road is a question to me ... WHY ? (This is apart from the Road wear and tear and environmental impact ) btw. My brother drives a Skoda Octavia Combi and he loves it !! The space, the driving characteristic, fuel economics etc ..

[@klaushofmann8411]

If you paid our Petrol Prices..... 😂😂

[@wozzablog]

Europeans tow with whatever they drive. I saw a hatchback on a motorway towing a trailer. If they need more capacity they hire a van for a couple of days. We don't buy massive vehicles incase we need to tow, we can tow reasonable loads with almost anything we drive that has a hook

[@Hipas_Account]

Not sure but that could also be due to our cars here in Europe being equipped with manuals more often, where as in the States smaller cars tend to still be automatic, which are not as well equipped to handle towing.

[@wozzablog]

@Hipas_Account yeah, fair point to be honest

[@moriyamakyon1067]

@@Hipas_Account people just forgetting that hevy weight isn't that heavy on the wheels, like "I need big ass truck to tow 5 ton trailer" but in reality it's possible to drag it with only your body

[@MoshooDesign]

GMC Yukon Denali in The Netherlands would cost over 200k USD - Base price: approx 75k USD - Environment tax: approx. 120k USD - Import and all the other taxes not included plus: - Road tax is 275 USD per month because of it's weight - Fuel is 8 USD per gallon - adding 220 pound to the car, would then require a special licence (approx 2900 USD investment) I guess that why we don't have them...

[@IWrocker]

Excellent breakdown.. and woah… now it makes more sense. Who would want to deal with all of that! That Yukon is nice but certainly not worth all of that trouble

[@autobootpiloot]

The Netherlands is however stupidly expensive compared to most of Europe. Fuel prices are the highest in the world (although we lose that first place every now and then) and road tax is a lot higher than everywhere else. Sometimes over 10 times as high. The environmental tax on new cars is also up there with the highest in Europe. Some Scandinavian countries are also very expensive.

[@MoshooDesign]

@@IWrocker Indeed, you could buy a base model Porsche Cayenne for 165k USD, or the hybrid for 133k USD (less environmental tax), but it may be a bit small ;)

[@Hipas_Account]

@@autobootpiloot Here in Finland American cars are still rather common, especially trucks and SUVs. I think also in the Netherlands just like in Finland if you claim that the truck is for your business you can get it for way cheaper than if it were just for private driving or whatever. It's crazy how when i travel from here in a small rural town to a bigger city like Helsinki, the amount of big American trucks increases, you'd think that when you get to rural places youd see more big trucks, but it's the total opposite, those big trucks are literally just to show off, and i'll be honest, i don't really mind it seeing as i own a big American car that serves very little practical purpose.

[@autobootpiloot]

@@Hipas_Account similar in the Netherlands. However USA trucks are at least as popular on the countryside as in the cities. In the cities they are for showing off but in the countryside they are used for pulling trailers, and showing off a little obviously. If you need a pickup and a f150 is 15% more than a vw amarok it a pretty easy choice for most.

[@Dqtube]

14:40 There is a difference in how the cargo space is calculated/measured in the EU( VDA DIN 70020 / ISO 3832 ) and in the USA( SAE J1100). Therefore the two figures cannot be easily compared. It shouldn't surprise you, but the US methodology generates bigger numbers.

[@jattikuukunen]

Is the weight also calculated differently?

[@Dqtube]

@@jattikuukunen Which one? If you're talking about the number in this video, then it's really simplified and shouldn't be listed as a single number, but rather a range because it depends on the final configuration of the vehicle. For example, this generation of the Duster in the video has a listed weight for my market ranging from 1264 kg to 1425 kg depending on trim and engine. The new generation got a greater feature set and a little more power, so it also gained a bit of weight and is now from 1351 kg to 1497 kg.

[@jattikuukunen]

@@Dqtube 17:18 Ian was wondering how the Ford is only double the weight

[@Dqtube]

@@jattikuukunen It's a similar case to the Duster, as I've already described. The website has simplified it a lot. If you google the weight of the F-350, you'll find numbers ranging from 2361 kg for the older low trim to 3696 kg for the high trim last gen.

[@jok3r906]

I can't speak for all Americans, but I for one would be a lot happier with a smaller vehicle, rather than rhe ridiculous bullshit we call vehicles

[@kenbrown2808]

I put it into the comparison, and our family car, is in the same size class as the Skoda Octavia - which, coincidentally, we will be using on our next vacation. of course, here, it is a midsize crossover, and there, it is a full size.

[@TFY-v8l]

If you wanna drive in a coffin on wheels then you do you.. but I dont

[@wubbo73]

@@TFY-v8l This is stupid, i bet you don't even know what a octavia is for a car.

[@benedekhalda-kiss9737]

​@TFY-v8l Yeah same tbh. That's why I'd choose an octavia instead of a huge uncontrollable high center of gravity lumbering beast

[@OlavvanGerven]

Sigmund Freud would hve had a perfect explanation why Americans need bigger cars...

[@phillipevans9414]

Did someone say...compensation? Cheers!

[@haukionkannel]

😂

[@bjornh4664]

To paraphrase Freud: "Sometimes a car is just a car".

[@Kristian-sj8bn]

In Europe the size might be due to weight restrictions on driving licences. For regular car, licence class B, the car and eventual trailer used to be max 3500kg (soon upgraded to 4250kg (I think) ). So if you want a decent trailer load of about 1000kg total haul, then the car (inkl load, you, petrol, etc) can not exceed 2500kg. In the US I think, you do not have any limitations at all? So cars and trucks and trailers can just baloon.

[@mistycrom]

The thing with hatchbacks when it comes to cargo space... you can put the back seats down and it becomes essentially a small van. Same thing with estates.

[@nbartlett6538]

Now check out the statistics for pedestrian and cyclist deaths on American roads (and to be fair, Canadian roads) vs the rest of the World. You might notice a correlation!

[@PropperNaughtyGeezer]

It's not just US vs EU. Look at a modern compact car compared to a 30-year-old upper middle class car. It looks bigger, but put them side by side. A T1 VW bus is narrower and only about half a meter longer than a modern Polo. An adult can barely fit behind the wheel of a Polo, and tradesmen drove all their stuff to the construction site in a T1 bus. In the city, trucks are required to drive on the right, which used to be quite easy, but today you need half the width of the tires in the left lane to avoid shaving the mirrors.

[@la-go-xy]

Also, the shorter wheelbase makes them so much more maneuverable. And loading is easier if you can just shove it in, and not have to lift cargo up/down.

[@Chaos-np8xf]

As someone whos 1,95m with very long legs I fit comfortably even in the rear seat of a Polo. I get your point, but Polo sized cars are actually reasonably sized cars

[@martinconnelly1473]

BMW minis are not even close to the size of the original.

[@kroon1930]

I was looking for this comment! I have a 1979 Volvo wagon and everybody keeps saying how big it is. But it’s not. Any SUV is much wider. Mine is nice and narrow. Fits more than easily in the sometimes rather narrow Dutch parking spaces. And indeed. It’s only about 40 cms longer than the typical suv. Plus rear wheel drive which gives it the smallest turn circle ever.

[@ajyfji7021]

Used an octavia wagon to tow my sailing dinghy from England to Lake Garda in Northern Italy this summer. Had a trunk full of camping gear, kite foiling and windsurfing gear, bikes, suitcases etc., and more watersports gear on the roof. Cruised at a little over 70mph (~125km/h), did about 46mpg (~5.1l/100km). Can't conceive of needing anything bigger. My wife managed just fine with two kids in a Twingo 3 (rear engined one) whilst i was away.

[@Mal3lim]

As a better comparison between a Crown Vic and a euro car, here in the UK we use Vauxhall Astra's and Ford Focus as police cars for neighbourhood policing.

[@erraldstyler]

how, tho? German police found out that their A4 Avants couldn´t carry 2 officers and all their equipment...

[@sergeleon1163]

at Vauxhall i would rather say at current the Insigna (sedan) would be a better comparison or at the older cars like vectra or omega

[@autobootpiloot]

@@erraldstyler a Ford focus is at least as big or even bigger inside than the a4. Premium brands are smaller inside compared to more mainstream brands like Ford. A Ford Mondeo is noticeable larger than a Audi a6. I know in the Netherlands they struggle with the toolbelt in smaller cars. In the uk police doesn’t carry a pistol so I might not be such a problem. People fit just fine in way smaller cars.

[@kenbrown2808]

my town bought a Ford Taurus police edition to test it. I asked one of the officers what he thought of it, and he said, "I wouldn't put a criminal I HATED into the back seat." it is now ised by a police detective who doesn't have any reason to transport a detainee.

[@dallasfrost1996]

Here in New Zealand we used Holden Commodore's (large sedan) as police cars. After Holden went out of business in 2020, our police switched to Skoda station wagons. N.Z police also use pickup trucks (Mitsubishi Triton, Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger).

[@TheDragonSeb]

That Saturn Vue would be a family car here in Europe

[@bog423]

i'm surprised that no one really talks about the dacia sandero. i've seen it used as a family car, a single's person car, taxi or even work car (for some small businesses). it starts from 11.900 in france and it started to appear everywhere. if i'm not wrong it might be one of the best sold cars in 2024, this is what i read on the internet

[@JohnDoe-us5rq]

There are five seats in almost every car. So even the old Fiat 500 could fit, at least the headcount of 5 people.

[@Maccoye]

the old old or the old new ? because the old old is pretty small!

[@zepoxandy5602]

5 European people of course 😅

[@Maccoye]

@@zepoxandy5602 I have in mind the one from 1936

​@@Maccoye The new one seats four people. The old one has a flat bench seat in the back, I'm not sure how many people are supposed to fit there. 😄

[@citamcicak]

​@@Maccoye original was 7 people car XD

[@zetectic7968]

The base price for a Duster in UK is $26k not €12k due to car tax + VAT. US drives stupidly large vehicles because petrol is cheap if you paid European petrol prices you'd start buying more economical vehicles.

[@martinconnelly1473]

Manufacturers push large vehicles because they can get people to pay for the empty space inside a vehicle. Not much more metal but a lot of space means that a big price for a big vehicle looks reasonable to the average buyer. If you look at the Ford F350 versus the Fiat 500X the Ford weighs about the same as 2 Fiats and costs about the same as 2 Fiats so selling a F350 probably earns Ford twice the profit a 500X size vehicle would get. The factory and labour costs are probably similar whatever size vehicle is being assembled. I suspect the listed cost of the Ford is also short of point of sale taxes.

[@NuSpirit_]

Sadly it went up a lot in price in last 5 years. When I was buying 2019 version it was starting here for €9995 and my top trim with 4x4 was €16500. Now the new version (2024 or third generation) starts here at €17500 and goes up to €30000 in top configuration.

[@hpoom_woodyKick]

For a more realistic comparison Crown Vic vs Audi a4 Range rover sport vs GMC Ford Kuga vs Saturn Mitsubishi L200 vs F350 This would be more realistic in the UK

[@AxeGaijin]

Compact SUV is an oxymoron. 🙃 Also, a way to envision the 900Kg difference; That's about a classic VW Beetle.

[@MrLunarlander]

The modern "bloated" look is mainly down to increasingly stringent side impact protection standards - take a look at the door thickness of a current Golf (say) and compare it to a 1990s version!

[@gunner38ED]

In addition to the door thickness there has to be extra empty space on both sides to deploy the mandatory side airbags. The change between the late 90s (golf mk4) and the 00s (mk5) is very clear.

[@stevieinselby]

What is really funny on your first comparison is that the actual cabin of the Clio is basically the same size as the cabin of the Crown Vic. An extra 4 feet of roadspace used up, and it's all for the engine (and you wouldn't need a big V8 if you didn't have such a big, heavy car, natch) and a trunk that I bet is rarely ever more than 20% full ... all that wasted space! In the UK, it would be less common for a family of 4+ to have a Clio or similar as their main car, they're more usually owned by singles or couples, or as a second car in a family. A Skoda Octavia estate is about as big a vehicle as any family of 4 or 5 could reasonably need - I'm shortly going to be heading to France for a week's holiday with 4 adults in one, and we're not going to have any trouble fitting all of our stuff in.

[@SimbianMinistry]

UK here - My daily drive is a Skoda Superb - 4cyl turbo diesel 175bhp - Manual - A 'stretched' version of the Octavia... Interior very similar except bigger and better equipped in the rear, and a much larger boot (trunk) - It's basically an Audi A6 Looks huge, almost like a Limo, when parked up among other British cars at the supermarket - But still more than a foot shorter than the Crown Vic.

[@dallasfrost1996]

Here in New Zealand the Skoda Superb would be considered average for size. Over here mid-size pickup trucks & SUV's are the most common type of vehicles on our roads. Within our top 10 best-selling vehicles, 4 of them are pickup trucks & 5 of them are SUV's.

[@marksecker]

Me with my VW Polo, and my neighbour with a Dodge Ram, my roof doesn't even come up to the bottom of his side window frame, and my whole car is shorter than just the engine and cab space ... My neighbour (on multiple separate occasions) "my petrol bill is so high"... "I can't find a parking spot big enough" Me: to myself "no shit eh"

[@arnodobler1096]

9:16 Now imagine: a child is standing in front of or behind or next to it!!!🤯😰 Here, the SUVs from BMW Mercedes Audi Porsche race around at 200 km/h, mostly driven by women!😂

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

That Octavia and Yukon comparison is crazy. I knew American cars were big... But I had no idea they were that big! Here in the UK the Octavia would be classed as a pretty large car.

[@dallasfrost1996]

Here in New Zealand we have large SUV's such as the Toyota Landcruiser 300 & Nissan Patrol, which are almost as big as the GMC Yukon. In recent years, large American pickup trucks have become reasonably popular in New Zealand & Australia. Due to the success of the Chevrolet Silverado pickup trucks over here, GM is expanding their lineup to include large SUV's. The GMC Yukon is set to enter the New Zealand & Australian market beginning of 2025.

[@tompsu9536]

not even a common fiat 500 as it is the 500x which is a cross over. Normal would be even quite a bit smaller than that

[@TheVirtualTruckInstructor]

I'm driving a Renault Twingo phase2 2012. It's tiny. I still can take people (2 backseats with more legroom than you imagine) it fits a family of 4 people. the backseats are moveable front to back, even the backrest. The loading space gets bigger or smaller with that. it uses about 1 liter in 20 kilometers. It still has luxury things, like airconditioning, and cruise control. You should look into that tiny car.

[@nigelclinning2448]

Ian, look up the video by Not Just Bikes, “These Stupid Trucks are Literally Killing Us”

[@61tomtomtom]

In a American. I like the big ones. It is what it is. F the world . Typical

[@Daniel-qz8bp]

And the crazy thing is, Americans buy a huge suv, and they only have one child😂 Or they buy a pick up truck, while not even being a farmer😂They just drive it in the city😂

[@williamsimpson8115]

I’m in Devon at the moment and that Yukon quite simply couldn’t get you from A to B because the country lanes are too small..

[@johncrofts4393]

My wife has had three Clios since 2002. The first was a 1.2 three door. She sold it to our daughter in 2011. My daughter kept it until 2018, when she part exchanged it for a new mark 4 Renault Twingo with the rear engine and drive. My wife's next Clio was a five door diesel, part exchanged in 2018 for a special order five door, three cylinder turbo model. All of them have been completely reliable with great fuel economy. The 2002 still had its original exhaust after 16 years. Like all small French cars, they handle really well.

[@ricardofreitasl]

Great Video!! Thank you! I believe here in Europe, we don't have the "Car culture" as in the U.S.. I speak for my self, I always search for the fastest way to move from point A to B. In the city, I use a Motorcycle or a Smart. For long distances I use trains or airplanes and I rent a car when I arrive my destination. Having a huge car in Europe is not the smartest idea if you live in a city. Sometimes I use a Mercedes-Benz that is like 10metres long and I have a driver, it's called a BUS. :)

[@mothbreeder641]

Weird, I live in Europe and we have very large car culture here, especially American muscle cars. Almost like it isn't a country or something.

[@AVDB95]

In flanders (Belgium) we defnitily have car culture. It's mostly for classic cars (over 30years old). A smaller part is sports and performance cars. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that taxes and insurance for a classic car are verry cheap while a modern sports/performance car can cost you a lot.

[@monaabbyhamedani917]

​@@mothbreeder641which country is Europe again? 😅 Germany here, we love cars too, even if we ride bikes to work. My cars are either for practical things, or just for fun

[@Insanerobert44]

A quick explanation on why Dacia models are cheaper than most models: they tend to have smaller engines (to the point they've put 3-piston engines on most of their cars), have lower ergonomics standards and soundproofing than other brands. They're ideal for short-distance trips and the new models have great aesthetics compared to the older models, but if you go for top-of-the-line equipment levels the price per car will rise between 18.000 - 25.000 Euros, depending on the model (newly built). I used to drive them a lot at my previous job and I've got pretty familiar to how they handle.

[@tonys1636]

You definitely need an Ad Blocker, all those ads popping up when on a site would drive me mad.

[@572Btriode]

Ublock origin, works wonders for me.

[@IWrocker]

Yea it was annoying. My apologies

[@SimbianMinistry]

That little Fiat 500... Michael Schumacher was on 'Top Gear' TV show, and told the guys he used a Fiat 500 just for getting around town at home. Of course he had the fully-sorted sporty Abarth version... but still the same tiny size. Lewis Hamilton, on another episode of TG, told Clarkson he was driving a Mercedes GL at the time - Large SUV (Large by European standards)

[@johansilwouden3403]

The biggest car I have ever seen in my little Dutch village (pop. 10,000) is a Ford F450! It is owned by a retired vetenarian, who lives on a farm just outside our village. He owns a couple of horses and tows a horse trailer with it, I have been told. This massive suv does not fit in any of the public parking spots in our village, but his girlfriend probably owns a smaller car for doing the groceries! To avoid hefty taxes, people un Holland mostly use these suv's for business purposes and many are imported as 2nd hand cars from the US.

[@el3imaginaria]

In Europe there is a category of cars that are small vans adapted for families, which for their small size, offers great space and load capacity, usually manufactured in two different lengths. I'll give you an example for you to look at, you may find them interesting. Peugeot Rifter or Wolskvagen Caddy or Ford Tourneo Courier. In Spain, which is my country, they have a huge sales success. I don't know if you have that kind of car there.

[@Kent.]

But why compare a Crown Victoria with a tiny Clio? A weird comparison. We also have cars in the bigger size here that compare better to a big sedan. Say a Volvo S90, BMW 5 serie. Mercedes E-class, Audi A6 or a Skoda Superb and so on. Not all of us drive tiny cars.

[@erraldstyler]

Because these are some of the good selling models respectively. Yeah, we have "full-sIze sedans" buy they are not even 10% of the market. An A6 is 60k BASE PRICE, come on. Most people are buying "polo-class" cars in Europe, despite the single best selling model recently is the Model Y, but compared the F-150 its also tiny.

[@hebijirik]

Agreed. On the other hand some of us drive Opel Agila or Suzuki Ignis (the older one). Next to those the modern Clio looks big 😀

[@bennyhannover9361]

@@hebijirik or the VW Up or Toyota Aygo?

[@hebijirik]

@@bennyhannover9361 Never had the Up, but my parents had Peugeot 107, a sibling of the Aygo made in the same factory.

[@Kent.]

@@erraldstyler I live in Sweden and we drive bigger cars here and there is many that pays 60k and more for their cars. The best selling car in 2024 so far is Volvo XC60. We drive a lot of estates and SUV's from Volvo and the German companies for example. Polo is tiny here, but we have them too. To compare a tiny Clio to a Crown Vic is stupid, WOW... The Crown Vic is bigger!!! Compare the smaller US cars to the smaller European cars and the bigger with the bigger is a better comparison i think! But i know in many countrys in southern Europe they drive cheap small cars, but not everywhere.

[@michaelcliffe562]

A Ford F150 is about the same size for example as an Iveco Daily or Mercedes Sprinter with drop side and crew cab. The difference is that the euro drop side trucks and vans are used as commercial vehicles. No one would ever buy one outside of running a buisiness.

[@philipmulcahy7234]

I know that I'm late getting here but in Ireland I've never seen a single guy drive a Fiat 500x, here single guy's mostly drive the likes of BMW, Audi, VW Golf, Passat, Renault Magene hatchback, Toyota Corolla.

[@thomasfranz6467]

Family with one kid, never driven anything but a VW Polo. Had an old 2002 model until 2020 or so, and then got a newer one, but still a Polo. Didn't have problems, even on holiday trips with a lot of luggage and an almost grown-up child, even in the older one which was smaller than the new one.

[@papalaz4444244]

American cars are larger but built with the lowest qualilty materials. Some of these vehicles are not "cars" at all. They are basically vans.

[@znail4675]

No, Vans would be useful.

[@Hipas_Account]

This was a good look into the differencies of what types of cars are common, and a fairly well educated viewpoint from an American perspective, would love to see this get used more whenever you come across a car you'd be interested in learning more about, just to give it some more context. Here in Finland the Octavia is constantly in the top 3 best selling new cars class and they tend to serve many different purposes, even our police use them.

[@videosforeveryone66]

Let's not forget that Europe has history and a lot of old buildings (that took up space to build) so that's why we don't have as many big cars as the Americans. This brings us to the next logical conclusion: since there were so many old buildings and cities, each one of it having a different architecture and different landscape in a smaller space, we as Europeans developed a different city planning that will have to be updated to keep up with the times. But in the past, this wasn't the case, streets weren't meant to be full of big vehicles and of course there cars took the scene much later. Here we had wagons, rode horses, used them for work, some countries used donkeys for this while others used oxes, especially for agricultural purposes. That was all people had, carriages were also used for transportation but usually the rich or the nobility used these. Think of this was more like a limo for that period. These were all the vehicles there were on the streets. Trams appeared later in the cities but this was still before cars appeared and they're still used as a public transportation method here on the continent. That was all the space you needed. I know that what I said here is known by everybody, but the point is that if you were to make place for cars in our city cities, you'd have to demolish monuments, castles, rebuild bridges and nobody wants this so we have to deal with this. The history, the old architecture, the nice walkable streets and the pleasure of taking a walk either for fun or as a retreat from the sunshine during the summer heat or for socializing makes this cities charming. And by the way our cities become bigger too, they expand and start to have all of the modern amenities one would need these days: houses, kindergartens, schools, hospitals, clinics, eateries, insurance companies, EMS, police, fire dept, bus stations and many others you can think of and of course the infrastructure is being built, people from the rural areas are starting to move to towns or to larger cities (the retired ones are sometimes the ones moving back to the countryside or to more quiet places). So urbanization is real, it's happening in Europe too, it's not something exclusive to the USA, the streets become larger, fit for cars and public transportation, so new neighborhoods are being created and these places are usually used by youths and young families, you can buy apartments, houses, in some areas even mansions. I saw some of these areas but to me they're soulless, it's mostly all concrete besides the parks and the children playgrounds, there's almost nothing to them. Mostly all is built for working, driving back and forth home and that's quite it. There needs to be some kind of creativity in these areas because otherwise they're all going to be bland. History and old buildings, monuments, museums are all nice and fine but there is and it will still be a need for some new ones, for new types of arts and expression to make it interesting, don't just add gyms and shopping centers ... add some lakes, some nature, some bike lanes, throw in some forests, add some animals too ... really. I would like to see America (especially the USA) start to use their space better, to make it less congested to traffic, to remove the guns problems but for this to happen, it needs strict laws to be put in place and applied and real life tests for guns to be required for every single person. The US is probably the most beautiful and scenic country in the world in terms of nature, it has mostly all of the world climates. But look where you people got. So why does it matter so much that you don't have such a rich history as us? Make it, it's never too late. You should also stop being the protective "big bro" and verbally attack big countries and invade others to take their resources (yes, I'm mostly looking at the Middle Eastern countries - that got invaded mostly for oil and for influence in the region, but usually all over the world) when you're the actual bully. I mean mind your own business and let the others defend themselves. Defend your own country, defend the neighbors if you have to but only if you have to and when they give you permission to do so. Build your country, make people eat more healthy, start cooking, remove Big Pharmas and other big corporations bad influence on peoples pockets. I mean, yes, I watch all kinds of reaction videos and I like that you know how to make fun of yourselves because a bit of fun is a dose of intelligence but I'd also love to see this country be less stressed, drivers calmer and more attentive, less distracted, I'd like to see people care more about the others, have more empathy and lead in almost if not in every aspect of life. If you really want to make your country better, show us how you make things better and others will follow, the competition will be tighter with each country becoming better and better with time.

[@azminek7154]

For singles in Europe it's more common to have something like the Suzuki Swift, Toyota Yaris, Honda Civic, Skoda Fabia, Opel Corsa and Astra, Ford Fiesta and Focus. They are also popular with families up to 2 kids.

[@waltercruciani5030]

I’m from Italy. During a vacation in US , the travel agency booked a “mid size SUV”. What I got was a Mazda, so big that it was a version not imported in Italy 😂

[@HyperVanilo]

The biggest Mazda is the CX-90, I thought that car also available in the EU?

[@waltercruciani5030]

@@HyperVanilo it was in 2012 and the car was a CX-9. It was imported in EU, but not available in Italy.

[@afiiik1]

Ive got an old Skoda Octavia and my 7 year old can lie in the trunk lengthwise with ease. We can pack 2 paddleboards and camping gear for 5 without putting anything on the roof. I love it even though it's old and quirky😊

[@10C45E]

The GMC Yukon and the Chevy Suburban are insane. There is no plausible situation that I can think of where you would EVER need a car that big...

[@kleinerfarmer1]

Compensation for no driving skills or "other" issues could be one.

[@mick-berry5331]

​@@kleinerfarmer1in Europe, we simply don't have the roads for such cars. Driving on a narrow, winding mountain road must be a nightmare.... and don't forget 7.5$/gal. gas!

[@kleinerfarmer1]

@@mick-berry5331 I know. Think about my name for hint^^ But I also had the "fourtune" to speak to some "that's a real man's car/truck" people that seemed rather superficial about what a "real man" is supposed to be.

[@autobootpiloot]

To be fair, the lady that runs the daycare centre here has a suburban. She also has some horses so in her free time she uses it to pull a double horse trailer. And yes, a van can do both too, but a van is boring compared to a 70’s suburban. And it’s only used when the car is needed, she has a normal car too.

[@benedekhalda-kiss9737]

​@@autobootpiloot I've seen touaregs pulling double horse trailers

[@littleDutchie92]

@6:55 1: in Europe (Netherlands at least) we usually dont drop our kids to school by car. We walk or cycle. 2: where do you PARK this tank?? They sure wont fit in a regular European parking spot!!.(ive seen a truck like this once and it took up 4 whole spaces!!!)

[@dallasfrost1996]

4 spaces?? Wow, here in New Zealand these large American vehicles mostly fit into 1 space. There is some overhang out back though (roughly half a meter).

[@magnusbrlum6414]

@@dallasfrost1996 The standard size of a parking space in Europe is 2.5m x 5.0m

[@maverickf1426]

we allways had a octavia since gen 2. its really one of the best cars ever. that thing has tons of cargo room and versatillity. we also had a old golf wagon, toyota corolla wagon and a focus wagon for some time in the past. nothing matches an octavia. especially the RS powerhouses

[@gavin047]

@iwrocker Something to note. USA measures boor volume to roof where as Europe and the majority of the rest of the world is to window Line. So that the significant difference in boot size. SAE vs VDA (European standard)

[@arnodobler1096]

The Crown Victoria looks so 80s design.

[@mick-berry5331]

Because it is 80s design...

[@juppzmuda9725]

gotta love the 80s!

[@IWrocker]

Because it is 😅 my 2006 Crown Victoria is built on a 1979 platform. That’s part of the appeal though, it’s robust and reliable.. easy to work on. Also feels satisfying to drive.. it’s mechanical feeling, not numb like so many new cars

[@arnodobler1096]

@@IWrocker understandable! I thought US cars were cool until the 70s.

[@bennyhannover9361]

9:13 if you take the Skoda Octavia Scout with the 1.9 Liter Turbodiesel from VW Group plus allwheel Drive. With 150 bhp or even 170 bhp you can get anywhere.

[@HrLBolle]

9:27 Most people holding a normal driver license in Germany and probably most of Europe won't be able to utilise the GMC to its full potential. To do so in German you'd need to obtain the licence class C1E, the smallest truck licence with the trailer extension. But if you got that one you're good to get a US style Camper, 5th. Wheel attachment for the confused.

[@Gazer75]

Yep, pretty sure the regular B license is up to 3500kg or ~7700lbs all across Europe. Many of the EVs like the Tesla Model Y would require the BE to be able to tow much.

[@HrLBolle]

@@Gazer75 you know, with car getting heavier because of EV the max tonnage must be raised. In some of the bigger EV SUVs normal B won't suffice for maximum loading according to Fahrzeugbrief ( Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil II) I don't have that issue because I work as a truck driver 😂

[@Gazer75]

@@HrLBolle And some people in EU want to restrict new drivers to smaller cars. It would be a disaster for us in Norway as almost half of the popular cars would be to heavy. Model Y is very popular i Norwegian families, but would be to heavy for teenagers just getting their license. Looking at the bigger cars for sale in Europe there are some heavy EVs like the MB EQS, Kia EV9, BMW iX M60, Hongqi E-HS9 and Audi Q6. These are all listed with a max weight around 2900 to 3300kg. The VinFast FV9 is also going to be a heavy beast. The common thing here is a big battery at 90-130kWh.

[@HrLBolle]

@@Gazer75 I wouldn't mind to have a restriction in place on how much power is accessible to new drivers. I mean when you turn 18 you don't need to have a car with 270+ horse power and the coupled temptation to go passed the 200 kp/h mark. get a car with 100 ps max., learn to drive this proper and get growing from there once you have reached a good proficiency at how the roads work

[@Gazer75]

@@HrLBolle So families will be required to have two cars just so that the 18 yo can drive one of them? Not everyone can afford this. There are very few EVs with that low power. Dacia Spring is one, upcoming Renault 5 E-Tech has 95hp for the cheapest model, Hyundai Inster is coming with 96hp for the cheaper model later on. Most small EVs have at least 100kW (136hp).

[@rahansk8200]

I am in Corsica, island of beauty (that's its nickname) I can say that American and Japanese pick-ups are very fashionable, but the island has very chaotic roads and paths. They are used for what they are made. Obviously, there are some to show off.you have to compare prices

[@hanes2]

The Audi A4 Advant or VW Passat, or even something like Volvo XC60 quite popular family combi cars among a thousand other models.

[@cecilialeitet2794]

We went on a month long roadtrip through the midwest about 7 years ago. We rented a GMC Yukon. Our normal drive back home at the time was a Volvo XC90 D5, a VERY large SUV-size car by swedish standards, and a very thirsty engine too. I remember coming back home and stepping into to our XC90 and it feeling like a gokart. The Yukon is crazy big! The most insane part was feeling like a normal to small sized vehicle driving around in one.

[@la-go-xy]

8:01 always forget... Yes, even Germans do not think that bigger is better - regarding cars... In the 1980s at least, a sportive car had good acceleration and speed. It was rather lower than standard with less absorbtion. The higher vehicles were for old folks .. Now, we do have some SUVs and they are more popular. Mainly with those who were young drivers in the 1980s. But really, efficiency is a point, as others mentioned, in people+cargi capacity, maneuverability, parking, petrol...

[@la-go-xy]

15:39 How many of private truck and SUV owners do go off road - and how often?

[@JonnyMc7]

The GMC Yukon is just ridiculous it's a tank! Remember watching a documentary on that one a driver couldn't see a child that was sitting in the road over 15 feet in front of it. 😳

[@mihaitudorache4442]

An SUV and a crossover......dude....6:25 ever heard of a Volkswagen tuareg? Skoda kodiac? Hyundai santa fe? Bmw x5 or x6? Renault captur?

[@vogel2280]

In the Netherlands there is a gas guzzler tax included in the BPM (car purchase/import tax). In the old system a 2018 Yukon 6l V8 had a list price of €156.000. In the new BPM system (which I found hard to make a calculation of) For a car with 310g/km CO2 emission I got to a BPM tax of €96.000 (not counting 20% VAT)

[@ABaumstumpf]

Octavia is a family car. You can easily fit 3 kids and everything for a trip.

[@Gazer75]

Ocravia is kind of small compared to the Superb though. My dad had a regular Octavia and my sister now drives a Superb estate.

[@ABaumstumpf]

@@Gazer75 Certainly - but there are just way more Octavia around. The Superb is bigger and has more space but the price is... eh.

[@haukionkannel]

Superb is big family car! Octavia is definitely more common sized for to be a family car… also by price!

[@chrisperyagh]

It's incredible and hard to comprehend that back in the '70s we had a Citroen Dyane as our family car (four of us and a dog) and we used to go to Scotland or the south of France in that. By contrast, my aunt and uncle visiting from Texas with just the one cousin at the time had a Lincoln Continental Town Car as their daily runabout - all 19' of it and probably around 6' wide. So imagine all four of us plus my aunt, uncle and baby cousin all crammed into a Dyane plus their luggage going up to Gatwick on the day they flew back. Absolutely nuts and illegal nowadays, but we managed it even with its 602cc engine. We also all crammed into a Mini Clubman estate my dad borrowed to go to Stonehenge back then too - not the current Clubman estate which is huge by original Mini standards, but the one from the '70s. The largest cars I've had were a Citroen DS, CX, XM (x2), Volvo 940 estate, V70 estate and now currently a 7th Generation Accord Tourer as it has a wide tailgate and loading area compared to most cars, even wider than the large BMW, Merc and Jaguar estates.

[@RickTheClipper]

You can bet that the smaller EU car has higher safety standards and better survival records than an US truck. Just look for fatal accidents per 1000 cars and 100000 KM

[@Anson_AKB]

there also are *two different categories* for "safety": - the safety for only the driver and passengers (often better when the car or rather truck is bigger and heavier), - and the safety for *everybody* including people inside AND outside of the car (usually worse when the car is a big and heavy truck/SUV, and that can be catastrophic when the driver can't see children in front of it, and when people are hit with "a wall of a car" instead of being hit in a way that makes them roll over the hood/bonnet)

[@autobootpiloot]

@@Anson_AKB Americans are extremely selfish as far as safety goes. The whole world can be on fire, but as long as they themselves are safe they call it safety. They just don’t seem to understand that most of the times, they are the “rest of the world”. In Europe safety is when everyone survives, not only you. That mentality is implemented everywhere. From home defence to traffic to safety on the workplace.

[@RickTheClipper]

@@Anson_AKB For this reason the Cyber Truck is banned in Europe, and agreed, bigger (heavier) cars improve situation for the passengers

[@kenbrown2808]

and yet, you don't hear Americans moaning that their motorways all have to have wide hard shoulders, because when their car breaks down they will be hit and killed because they didn't have a hard shoulder to pull to immediately.

[@RickTheClipper]

@@kenbrown2808 who talked about hard shoulders? And honestly. Americans know so little about the world, their opinion is good for the US, but thats it

[@pedroleal7118]

The front image of the Clio is misleading, they're no where similar in width. The other thing is 'small' doesn't mean you have no space inside. The Renault Twingo, a small car, is a favourite amonst elders and people who have mobility (obese) problems, quiet spacious inside!

[@malkontentniepoprawny6885]

Why Americans don't like small cars?, and why they love so much trucks? , when i was young, i thought that only farmers drive them.

[@Anson_AKB]

if you are involved in an accident, size and weight might protect YOU to some degree. of course a real tank would serve that purpose even more :-) and thus many american cars are considered to be "safe", while completely ignoring the dangers that they are *for everybody else* (pedestrians, bicycles, etc)

[@Graaskaegg]

Marketing reasons. The environmental rules for cars made them more expensive but there were exceptions to the rules for utility vehicles so the American companies started marketing them to the regular buyers. The cars themselves have grown too, a pickup truck from early 90s is smaller than the same brand today.

[@magnusbrlum6414]

@@Anson_AKB if size and weight will protect you the average amarican should be safe 😅🍔🍟

[@gifs_for_the_peasantry]

But the safety advantage is lost if everybody has big cars. You would be safer if only you had the giant car but now you just have to giants crash into each other each weighing twice as much. But I get the point that if you are the only one with a small car then you are extra tucked in a accident. Which feels like a weird and vicious spiral, just so you are safer, which in turn makes it less safer for others, who in turn by bigger cars to be safer. Is this actually the case? Because I feel American cars are still getting even larger as time goes on

[@toomasargel8503]

In Estonia is GMC Yunkon Denali 159,931 USD / 143.000 Euro = that money we get great minibus 4x4 69.000 with 9 seat + Toyota pick up crew cab price 55.900 = 125.900 euro and left 15.100 euro to rent motorhome or buy a boat with trailer for 5 person.

[@Joel.V.]

that clio is also here a "smaller" car ... its a city car or more for the younger people as a decent starter first car. that fiat 500x is the bigger one, but it still is a girl's car.... and used as a second car for the lady... On my 4week trip this year in tenessee i drove the 2024 wageneer series2, what a amazing good car, but big as shit, and yes it did fit wel there in the US, bet here in europe it will be a close fit to my driveway :D

[@boargarage9590]

In Europe for a long time now basically every car is avaliable with a diesel and these are really popular, mostly due to mpg. Generally the only cars that don't have diesel engine as an option are the smallest of the small cars like vw up!, hyundai i10 and obviously sports cars. I prefer petrol engines but even though our diesels can be as small as 1.2l they always have the torque, great mpg and usually cost the same as petrol alternatives so I always find it weird that diesels are unpopular in the US (other than for trucks). Fuel injection repair is expensive nowadays but they aren't as crude and tractor-like as they used to.

[@jurgengrove2488]

Ian! Here in Europe we take environmental pollution seriously! What I personally miss is the respective fuel consumption... I can also imagine a comparison of the costs. I hope you know that the price of diesel in Germany is currently around 1.60 euros per liter.... Greetings from Lower Saxony Jürgen

[@juppzmuda9725]

green party voters in the house...

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

Why Does a 1000cc dreary diesel car pass emissions but not a 659cc petrol car?

[@jurgengrove2488]

@@juppzmuda9725 No, my friend! The world and what comes after me is important to me! It's just like borrowing a tool from a good friend! If you don't return it properly, your friend will get angry. And Mother Earth shouldn't hate me.

[@PotsdamSenior]

I designed a lot of supermarket car parks in the past few years. This chain wanted the individual spaces to be 2.50 m wide (3.00 for handicap parking) by 5.20 meters long. Your Ford would already be too long, sticking out into the (6 m wide for two-way traffic) access driveway.

[@MaoZhu-j6q]

I am amazed by the American view that size is everything. When you consider that a Formula 1 engine is just 1600cc (97 cu inches) turbocharged and producing about 800 to 850 hp, why the hell do you need a 7 litre engine in any car. It's so wasteful. I know an ordinary car engine is not a F1 engine, but why on earth any car needs an engine of the size they are in America is just pointless. Surely a BMW with a 3000cc engine that will produce 530 hp do 0-60 in 3.5 secs and have a top speed limited to 155mph why on earth do you need any more engine.

[@JuanMartinez-vf5hd]

Because 7l engine with 800hp is way more reliable that 1.6L with the same power but yes usa cars arent efficent at all vs eu cars.

[@GoldenCroc]

Cause they can afford it, thats why. So why shouldnt they. Europe would be exactly the sme, if the general european had the same economy as the general American do, bet on it.

[@luca94430]

@@JuanMartinez-vf5hd that was true a decade ago, most 4 cylinders that you found in europe can have up to 200hp and be reliable as hell. I owned a Peugeot 308, 4 cylinders, 150hp and i can assure you that this fucker is absolutely indestructible even if i drive it like hell. And it can go up to 220kph and beat the 0 to 100kph in under 6 seconds which is pretty nice. It also weight 1.2 metric tons which is pretty light for a "family" car. Technology has advanced, even if you omit the electronics, the types of alloy used is constantly changing for the best. Why the Americans need so much displacement is because they need a lot of torque to move the mass of the big vehicles they have.

[@MaoZhu-j6q]

@@GoldenCroc don't know where you are getting your facts from, dreams, by the sound of it. When a BMW cost considerably more than a tin-plate pick up, it obviously has nothing to do with affordability. I would imagine it has more to do with refined taste rather than in your face ego's

[@UtamagUta]

welp I have same question about automatic guns being valued as human right in the USA. I get revolvers / pneumatic gun, electroshock for self defense but semiautomatics?!?! Sold with no questions asked in some random town fair?!?!

[@berndbeispielmensch]

The big American vehicles wouldn't fit regular European streets and parking spots. Unless they are used primarily for work purposes, I'd always wondered, why people would drive those things around on a daily basis.

[@Mosern1977]

Europe is a diverse continent. Not all places are ancient Rome. For example: Average cars in Scandinavia are usually a bit bigger than in southern Europe.

[@Phiyedough]

The big American vehicles are just obscene to those of us who care about the planet. As usual it is all about Americans prioritising individual freedom above collective responsibility.

[@grahvis]

Individual freedom, which is entirely dependent on owning a car. No car, less freedom than the average carless European.

[@TFY-v8l]

Go talk to the all celebrities, billionaires, millionaires and politicians who owned countless private jets and yachts.. not us average working people who just wanna live our lives and don't want the climate BS shoved down our throats

[@citamcicak]

Dacia Duster is a medium SUV for european size standards.

[@KevinBrown-lv2fk]

uh oh the butt bots are taking over

[@davedixon2068]

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[@joannawareluk3939]

Parking is why European cars are smaller. Our family car with 2 small kids years ago was Ford Mondeo Kombi. It was inconvenient to navigate it in the school parking lot in Prague, CZ. Then we moved to Bavaria, Germany. I specifically chose Mini Cooper S as my next car to enjoy easier parking (my husband drove another car - VW Passat kombi). Then we moved to Cracow, Poland with street parking. We chose a small suv - Renault Koleos ;to fit into parking spaces easier). Our newest family car is now Audi A4. We are a family of 4 with 2 teenager sons who are already taller than I am. If it wasn’t for their height we would probably have chosen Audi A5 because it looks cooler but offers less head space in the back seats. But when choosing the car the first thing to consider was it’s length - because we often park along the street (in the old town area) so the length of the car is a huge factor if you fit or not.

[@yveslauwereyns6677]

It’s so crazy to me that literally everything in the US is v8 powered… here anything with a 6 cylinder might as well be a supercar, the v8 is reserved for a urus or an x5M or some outlandish Ferrari. The average engine displacement in Europe I believe is under 2L(around 1.6 iirc)

[@develuwerand]

We drive cars with small engines because the gasoline price here is 9,27 dollar per gallon