American Reacts Why is New Zealand Timber Pink???

[@kevinmoore3827]

Netting: You may have also noticed the scaffolding as well meaning ppl working at heights. The netting is a safety measure against falls.

[@greenthumb6971]

It’s pink because die is added to the pressure treatment and is used as roof baton for the tiles to sit on and be nailed too the reason it’s pink is so the building inspector doesn’t have to got up on the roof to check the timber it can easily be seen for the ground

[@kieranpdent]

And so dumb ass using it outside

[@craigshrimpton5765]

The net across the top of the walls are a safety measure when working at height in case someone falls inwards and also scaffolding surrounds the building at the same time.

[@matthewcullen1298]

G'day mate. I'm a carpenter from Australia. Is that standard practise over there When I was building factories we used special wire netting that was tied into the roof purlins that was rated to arrest a fall if the roofers fell through the purlins.than the anti condensation blanket sat on top

[@craigshrimpton5765]

@@matthewcullen1298 Yeah all part of the osh regulations. I'm not a builder but last I saw it was when some hours next to me were being built. They used preformed trusses so I guess they anchored in the spots where the trusses wouldn't sit then they're good to go. Slap it twice and say that's going nowhere.

[@daniell8331]

Our pine in nz is indeed your pine. We grow Monterey pine but we always call it radiata its scientific name. It grows super fast here less than 30 years.

[@morrisanderson818]

Its treated because of our weather down here, which is high rainfall, and the cladding we us

[@Max_Chaddington]

"Four seasons in one day". A famous saying about New Zealand.

[@User556-y3r]

That’s how it is tho, one moment it’s thunder storms and the next it’s rainbow sunshine 😂

[@nakinz109]

​@@User556-y3r😂 sure is. Especially here in Taranaki. Some of us say 5 seasons - autumn, winter, spring, summer and what the f###

[@justycescott7]

only in the cities tho i live in whakatane its always sunny

[@RedDeadPandaGaming]

Guess its partly due to the climate in NZ, so the pine trees grown in NZ will take 25yrs to grow to where it's mature enough to use for building where as in the nothern hemisphere it would take 75yrs and that is due to the different climate

[@AM-qo8sh]

Also reflects the original goals of plantation forestry in NZ. Radiata Pine was chosen (and then further optimized through selection of seed stock) as a very fast growing timber primarily for the pulp and paper industry. Keep in mind that the grow rate directly impacts the quality of the timber and faster growth while maximizing wood fibre output for paper making also results in soft wood that is weaker and more vulnerable to rotting quickly. Over time the declining supply of the slow growing hardwood native timbers resulted in radiata pine taking the place of native hardwoods for building framing and the treatment of the timber becomes essential for it to be sufficiently durable and resistant to water leak damage in building uses.

[@thekiwinomad]

As kiwi new Zealand is a very humid county we also get a lot of heavy rain events being an island in the middle of two major oceans at the bottom of the world. As such we mostly use a cavity batten system with the cladding which allows the building to breathe and dry out. Because of this treated timber is how used to prevent any bug, moisture or fungal damage. Pine is used as it csn be harvested within 12-17 years depending on the dentisy (tightness of the growth rings). Pink is used so that the inspectors can identify it by site. Some older houses will be made from native timber but they take a lot to grow with ab increase in costs. Its all about supply vs demand. There are other building options as well with stone, tilt slabs, metal framing etc... but these often come at a much higher costs due to the extra labour requirements

[@_JustinCider_]

The netting you mentioned is there as fall protection while the roof trusses & iron are installed.

[@llearch]

FWIW, New Zealand is arguably (parts are not, but we're generalising across the country) a temperate rainforest for most of it; consider it like Seattle, I think, in terms of rainfall, humidity, etc. It's also cold enough that most snakes would struggle to survive. Given the rainfall, that's likely a large part of why "it'll rot real fast".

[@MrWillt100]

Remember it disappears once covered up. Sort of like whether it is pink purple black or what ever, it eventually gets covered up so once you get over the fact that it is pink then your life can move on. You can see at a glance exactly how that timber has been treated i.e. what type of treatment they have used, what you call colour coding which you may use sometimes in the USA.

[@woundedmonk1884]

its highly dependent on the weather in your area in the world as to what sort of treatment process it goes through.

[@ytmalacore]

Treated lumber is mostly green-ish in south EU, and it is mostly used for gardens and outdoor stuff.

[@buddy1155]

Also in the North of the EU

[@DoubleMonoLR]

People seem to be routinely ignoring or misunderstanding what's in the video, pink timber treatment is interior & is mild. Exterior timber is green, and uses harsher chemicals, just like everywhere else.

[@lorrefl7072]

Here in Belgium it's always green... but we don't have any insects like termites that eat wood here. But we don't build our houses out of timber but with an inner and outer wall out of brick with insulation in between (inner wall can be concrete but I don't think it's used as much in Belgium as brick). So the pressure treated green pine is for the roof and in the garden. I always think it's weird that countries that have termites go and build houses out of wood. That's asking for trouble.

[@garthrogers2269]

Here in New Zealand, brick is usually only used as a cladding around a timber frame. This is because of earthquakes. The timber frame flexes, whereas brick tends to shatter.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

The pink colour comes from preservative treatment of the timber to prevent things such as dry-rot.

[@wax333]

The real reason why its pink is so you know its been treated. it would look the normal wodden colour if it didnt get dyed

[@simonscowen2970]

Pine trees only take about 20 years from planting to harvesting so it is a fast growing tree.

[@linnightl9277]

also is a useful warning not to burn the offcuts in open fire places. Chemically treated timber = toxic smoke.

[@peterwhite7252]

It can very depending on the supplier ,it is treated against fugis and borer ,the latter insect that eats the wood very small holes not like termites. The colour is just die. Pink for inside H1 Green H3 and H4 exterior use, House piles H5. The timber we use localy grown comes from Calafornia USA Pinus Radiarter. It is pine and grows fast in NZ,25 to 30 years till harvest.

[@erikbehaeghel]

now i want a total pink house LOL

[@monster10ify]

We do have sea snakes but we don’t have any deadly animals and before people came there were no land mammals apart from two really different, very small bats which spent a lot of their lives in the forest floor.

[@stephenborrill4231]

The pink fades quickly in the sun and rain.

[@hayleyhatcher3586]

0:42 we have the wooden strain different colors for different reasons

[@DTNNooby]

New Zealand is basically a big bird aviary, we don't have snakes. we do have some kinds of water snakes but uncommon.

[@monster10ify]

Pinus radiata is a native Californian pine and is what you are seeing here.

[@julesmarwell8023]

fancy building a timber house in the Northern Territory (Australia) were a termite mount could be two metres high .We dye our timber green. btw its toxic as well.

[@p.e.amueli8272]

Due to New Zealand weather they treat the timber ❤ New Zealand 🇳🇿 here

[@brettchapmankiwi]

Our pine is not a hardwood. It grows incredibly fast.

[@seyoch]

In Europe (at least in the Netherlands) we do have 'impregnated' timber, but nothing pink.

[@jillmortlock8439]

Nz has three species of native termites NONE of which are destructive.

[@warrenclark3475]

Nz radiata pine is actually from California USA and in the 1920,s huge non productive areas 😊of nz was planted in this wood 25-30 years growing time then harvest more than enough timber for nz the rest exported $4000.00 -6000.00 per tree

[@logwhitley]

I suspect the pink is a colouring not just the treatment

[@rwags6848]

NZ🇳🇿 has no snakes, wolves, bears, crocodiles/alligators, lions, cougars, scorpions… It does have a seldom seen red back spider.

[@mrsteel9026]

its just standards, its the same wood, the states just dont bother treating it because of cost.

[@mohammedbinladen4619]

I am a New Zealander and have never seen pink lumber either, I have only ever seen normal wood coloured lumber.

[@SerEnmei]

Then you must be blind or Gen Z. Go to any building supply store and you will find it. It's mandatory to use the pink timber for framing in NZ. And are you really a NZer? because no kiwi calls timber lumber in New Zealand.

[@mohammedbinladen4619]

@@SerEnmei I have never seen a building use it. Are you sure you're a kiwi? Perhaps I called it lumber because that is what the American called it, did that occur to you? and oh yes I lie about being a kiwi for a laugh. Why do you lie about the pink lumber?

[@SerEnmei]

@@mohammedbinladen4619 I guess you've never been to Mitre 10, Bunnings, ITM, etc. They all have it. Unless you use steel framing which is very rare, you have to use the pink timber for framing, otherwise you won't pass the inspection.

[@mohammedbinladen4619]

@@SerEnmei Of course I have been to Mitre 10 and Bunnings, but no to ITM. How long have they been using this pink lumber? I don't use steel framing or timber as I am not a builder.

[@SerEnmei]

@@mohammedbinladen4619 We've been using it since the 1950s, and you don't need to be a builder, anyone doing home DIY would also use it.

[@cadifan]

No we do not have snakes in NZ. I've never seen a house built of anything but pink timber, I thought the entire world built houses with pink treated timber. That's what pink treated timber is for. Green is more for marine applications.

[@JariJuslin]

I live in Finland and I have never seen in-wall structural wood treated. But we are above 60N, and not as rainy as NZ. I don't think we have any insects that really chew on wood. However, the reason we don't fungal protect the structural wood is most likely because due to the cold climate houses are well insulated *and* there's a layer of moisture sealing inside the point where moisture can condense. So indoor walls are heated and insulated to stay above dew point at all times and then there's a waterproofing layer between them and the outside.

[@Sinalove1]

Nope, we don't have snakes or predators, or anything poisonous in NZ - so its great for camping etc.

[@svensmith4188]

Huwine pine Tasmania check out mate

[@tombeijn6982]

Nice video

[@ItsCharlieVest]

Thanks

[@urizen7613]

Technically, New Zealand does actually have native snakes. Yes, really. Two or three species of sea snakes can stray into northern NZ waters in summer but they don't live long. They are listed as protected species, which seems a bit pointless.

[@shanefraser7764]

Yip come across a few out in the sea up in northland few kms off the main land

[@MK-oc4gt]

They're not land snakes and so most Kiwis don't even know that let alone have seen one. Sea snakes don't belong to any country - they belong to the sea!

[@TeTutae]

Here in NZ it is more the economic value a timber house provides rather than concrete and stone or brick. We have lots of forests. Brick and stone is expensive, Those who can afford it will use it. Steel frame building method is being used more recently in residential application not just commercial. We insulate for winter cold and summer heat we open the windows, jump in the ocean, lake, river... sit under a tree maybe. Weather here is nice, No snakes, No tigers, lions, hippos, crocs or alligators, No little mammals with opposing thumbs, Spider bites will not kill you it. 👍🏾

[@sifibuckle]

The only mammal that is native is a tiny bat.... It is cute.

[@mick1535]

Didnt you steal our possums Cheers

[@TeTutae]

@@mick1535 Imported pets gone rouge. You can have them all back if you want. 😅

[@DoubleMonoLR]

@@TeTutae They weren't pets gone rogue, they were imported for a fur trade. Likeeise various other terrible decisions were made to import animals that became pests - despite some people warning of the risk at the time.

[@TeTutae]

@@DoubleMonoLR hard to read subtleties of a light hearted joke huh?

[@ambatrondavis9488]

No snakes in NZ! Thanks for the video!

[@SerEnmei]

Lots of snakes in Wellington.

[@ambatrondavis9488]

@SerEnmei okay, NZ is a snake free country. Fact

[@vancemccarthy2554]

Big mistake when we started drying out the timber. We still dry it out, but add the pink. Dry timber would soak up moisture and rot when it heated up because of no ventilation. Raw wood was the best - no splitting, no warping. Houses built 100 years ago here were made like this and are still standing.

[@martinsmallwood9605]

100 years ago it was all Native NZ timbers not Pinus radiata. Kauri Rimu and Totara that was used for framing 100 years ago does not rot as easily as modern NZ grown plantation pine.

[@grandaddyc]

@@martinsmallwood9605 When my grandpap, a chipie built his own house he built it of heart kauri (the best) no treatment, and cheap as chips. The good old days.

[@meagi6116]

NZ has sea snakes...but once they come onto the land it dies...due to our cold weather...

[@raimaroscoe3397]

Nosnakes in NZ no crocs

[@jurgengrove2488]

Charly!! This pink color is from a salt solution in which the wood is dipped! This is to protect against fungal infestation and insects. This was also practiced here in Germany! But it has been banned again because the material is harmful to health, especially when in contact with the skin. Greetings from across the Atlantic.... Jürgen

[@stanislavbandur7355]

I have no idea what contains our wood treatment, but it comes in clear, yellow, brown or green tint , you can choose colour, but substance is same - antifungai, antimold antiinsect at same time.

[@Moamanly]

NZ has a very 'relaxed' attitude when it comes to toxic substances.

[@JoshBell-d2h]

Nets for when they start doing

[@BamBam-uf4yi]

H2 might be an arsenic treatment

[@vtbn53]

BTW we don't use the term lumber for timber, it means something different entirely

[@frnt2bak]

Its treated with chemical to stop rotting

[@mohammedbinladen4619]

NZ technically does have a native snake, the sea snake, but it is rarely seen here. There were a few cases reported of people coming across the sea snake last year I think it was. When the sea is warm enough they sometime make their way from Australia to our waters and because they are not brought over by humans they are classed as native.

[@graziellaacquarola7450]

In Europe we have brick houses ..we don't have wood homes...our roofs are made of clay...Hi from Italy ❤

[@jurgengrove2488]

That is not the right answer!---we have also wood timbered houses. Do not go blind through the world

[@ingegerdandersson6963]

Italien isn’t all of Europe. Here in Sweden we worked with developing wood so we can use them in mid-rise buildings. The biggest reason to build in wood is that it is sustainable over the entire life cycle - from construction to demolition. A wooden house binds carbon dioxide during the life of the building and reduces the use of carbon dioxide compared to steel and concrete. Producing and building in wood results in lower energy consumption than construction in other materials. Wood also provides a better indoor climate. Having said that, the American way of building is not sustainable because it uses methods that make the houses not last very long.

[@alanlynchireland1590]

No I am in Ireland and we have wooden frame house

[@buddy1155]

It really depends what country: Country with woods -> lots of wooden houses Country with rivers (for clay) -> lots of brick houses.

[@graziellaacquarola7450]

I don't know the percentage but wood houses aremuch less than wood houses...punto

[@evannelson4479]

Bloody timber, not “ lumber!”

[@alleyjames7570]

Treatment dye bro...pretty obvious when up close brother...but is hard to pick out from that picture.

[@JoshBell-d2h]

America has low quality untreated lumber that rots away

[@Draqoni333]

It's pine treated with a borax mix and is for the treatment of mold, fungus and bora. Its pink because you cant mix it up with green wood as that's not allowed, as per code, to be used inside near living areas or kitchens. Green wood is treated with Copper, Chromium and arsenic and is highly toxic compared to pink wood.

[@jillmortlock8439]

Ok. Hi europe. New Zealand is not Europe. The end.

[@PorouPremier]

bro no lies you look exactly like me

[@akumassj7827]

NZ has no poisonous reptiles/insects or man-eating carnivores.

[@urizen7613]

We only mostly don't have poisonous snakes. Sea snakes occasionally turn up in the top of the north in late summer.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

We do technically, the katipo spider is venomous and can kill, but nobody has died from it in about 100 years, even though they live in sand dunes. There's only a few thousand of them, they're not aggressive, bites are rare, and hospitals have the anti-venom. They're even protected, as they're rare.

[@dougmathews4480]

@@DoubleMonoLR The Aussie redback has also made it's way to NZ and started to spread, and whitetail spider bites can be nasty if not fatal.

[@BosisofSweden]

You shouldn't use treated timber in housing. We have the same color as the US, greenish. It is used solely for outdoor decking, fences and stuff.

[@dutchyjhome]

Why would you want to make a building based up on wood anyway? Our houses/buildings here in Europe are build by using concrete inside-walls and stone bricks outer-walls and in between a thick layer of insulation material. So summer heat stays out and winter coldness stays out as well. An other way of building is making one serious thick wall with large hollow Building bricks and close the outside wall water and weather tight off with Spachtelputz you may know as filler plaster. This is the typical German and Austrian way, maybe even more countries build their houses like this in Europe. But in any case: we do not use wood to build houses, maybe a barn, a shed or something, but the main building we build to last.

[@lorrefl7072]

In Belgium I think most of the inner walls are also brick, those red quick-build bricks, and not concrete.

[@dutchyjhome]

@@lorrefl7072 In the Netherlands it has been common for several decades to build a house based on a concrete frame construction. The concrete interior walls are custom-made in a factory and transported to the construction site via trucks with low loaders. The concrete interior walls are lifted onto the concrete floor with a crane and anchored there, and also anchored to each other. Then apply insulation and build the outer wall around it. However, it is also possible to have a house made in a factory: the walls are then completely bricked in the factory on the outside and provided with insulation material in the cavity wall on the inside, with all wiring and even with wallpaper or another wall covering of your choice and sockets. and light switches; all work is carried out in a very efficient manner in a factory. Really ready for mounting the walls together at 45 degrees. All preparations on the construction site must of course have been completed; such as piling work, installing a foundation beam network and all infrastructural preparations such as sewer, gas (--> often no longer), water, light and fiber optic cables for internet and coaxial cable for TV; in short, all infrastructure that is led into the house from under the sidewalk over the private grounds. and of course insulating the floor and pouring the concrete floor.

[@rightmunted7538]

Reason 1) wood frames with jib board makes easier access for plumbing and electrical work. Reason 2) Timber is less brittle than stones or bricks and therefore can last better in earthquakes, which we get a whole lot of. Reason 3) Pine frame homes are far quicker and more efficient to build. Which is an absolute must in new zealand right now.

[@Andrew-tf8jt]

Wood flexes. In earthquakes

[@dutchyjhome]

@@rightmunted7538 True, but our houses last for centuries... and installing plumbing and electrical work in concrete or stone walls is easy, you just gotta know how to do so.

[@whetuification]

Its just a simple pink coloured fluid treatment for wood so your house doesnt ROT, it also comes in violet, forest green & harlequin😂NOT!😂 Why is the frame colour such a big deal when it's all gonna be covered with walls? New Zealands Landscape is mostly Rain Forests, Lakes, Rivers, Streams & Creeks surrounded by seas on both sides... = LOTS OF MOISTURE!

[@jimmyjames1807]

urs is not that colour cause urs will rot

[@jurgengrove2488]

The second... It is not entirely environmentally friendly to simply impregnate the spruce wood with boron salt! The better way is to take the wood from the forest as soon as possible and dry it immediately in the chambert til 14% moisture content. The chamber temperature kills fungi and insects. This also compacts the wood structure and the wood is protected by itself. Boron salt is therefore no longer needed and leads to unnecessary costs.

[@jillmortlock8439]

Perhaps you would like to taje it ip with rhe government as you seem to know everything about it and New Zealand.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

Doesn't matter how you dry, borer insects will still eat it when it's not boron treated. They are fully capable of flying to where they find wood to eat.

[@ingegerdandersson6963]

Dont they have roofs? Why use treated wood that should not be getting wet. The outside wood yes, but the inside wood. Thats not allowed in Sweden as it is harmful.

[@Keyrose-my3xr]

Mould

[@DoubleMonoLR]

As in the video, the treatment is in large to prevent borer damage, and the treatment is basically just boron, which we even eat in vegetables etc. As also in the video, exterior wood gets a totally different treatment.

[@acidphras3852]

our houses are from bricks,no wood aplied here lol

[@allanmowz]

Earthquake says hello.

[@mymaster-myboss]

It's woke timber

[@Karl-Benny]

It`s Gay Timber or LBTQRSVTE

[@antonytjp]

No snakes in New Zealand we have a fruit bat as our only mammal and lots of birds, that’s it 😂

[@RealLoki]

That was super low effort, why is it pink? Obviously it treated lool.

[@nakinz109]

Well you live in America. Where people don't really give a shit because shoddy, crappy products is what regenerates business for cowboys. Besides, depending on where you live, a hurricanes likely to do a 3 little pigs number and blow your house down. - or picked up and taken for uninvited baptism via a flood. You're also riddled with creepy crawlies. Which is why i can't understand why new builds aren't regulated to be built with bricks. If they want timberr, then do it as a facade. And it comes down to corporate greed from none other than the insurance industry. The bigger the disaster the higher your premiums go and their bank balance grows. Down here - we despise that. For every building standard that is met or is above spec, the lower the premium. And we also have health and safety compliance that is a massive, massive deal hence the net. If there's a death on-site and the findings show they didn't comply with regulations, then it can break a business. One death is one to many. But sadly down here, it's the logging industry itself that has in the past been top of the table for worker fatalities. I think it may still be.