I hope we’ll never figure which tanks are better in reality.
@tanay24124 жыл бұрын
Best comment here
@ellysero61344 жыл бұрын
Russian tanks were ASS
@appleholo23364 жыл бұрын
Russian tanks biggest problems have always been reliability more than anything else
@a.t.l.r.89694 жыл бұрын
@@ottovonbismarck7646 i wouldnt fancy nuclear war but thank you
@ricardoricardoricardoricardo4 жыл бұрын
You dropped this 👑, king.
@sorokabeloboka88185 жыл бұрын
CynicalHistorian: "And T-55 can still be found in their reserves today, and it was made in 1958." Me: *Laughing in active duty B-52*
@wonkagaming87505 жыл бұрын
XD
@stolek69084 жыл бұрын
Also laughing in my m18 hellcat in 90s yugoslavia war !
@obedambriz83704 жыл бұрын
Don’t Russians still use the Tupolev TU-95?
@sorokabeloboka88184 жыл бұрын
@@obedambriz8370 They are indeed still and service and will remain. However they are not the "mainline" nuclear bomber. This role is replaced by Tu-160, and even they are being modernized, and when something boils, they are the first planes sent, not Tu-95. In case with US I don't remember B1 getting such attention, and B2, sacrificing a lot for stealth, is not even a suitable competitor to B-52, let alone B1 or Tu-160.
@sorokabeloboka88184 жыл бұрын
@Sepher Agon Such things heavily depend on opponent. I mean T-55 is a useless tin can against modern opponent, but at the same time some of them are doing pretty well against mish mash of an islamist forces in Syria right now. Same with B-52. It can still be used against "unconventional" enemies with success, but against an equal enemy - doubtful. They started getting downed back in Vietnam already, and look how technology has leapt. There is such thing as "Morally old", and no amout of "modernization" or "fixing" can change that for B-52 or Tu-95.
@solid_fire93885 жыл бұрын
those soldier on the tank at 10:06 are from Afghanistan, which they still use T-62s left from the 40th Army During the 80's soviet-Afgan war
@Krzemieniewski15 жыл бұрын
US style uniforms and old soviet tank= Afganistan army
@ikill-985 жыл бұрын
@@Krzemieniewski1 will yes both US and USSR attacked them and this is the result
@jasongideon99195 жыл бұрын
Soviets wins
@Feiora5 жыл бұрын
@Steve Arthur they're talking about the soviet invasion of Afghanistan before the soviet union's collapse...
@whomagoose68975 жыл бұрын
I talked to some Iranians about Afghanistan culture and people. Iran borders Afghanistan so an Iranian point of view would be valid. They said the entire Middle East looks at Afghanistan as a bunch of ignorant hillbillies living in the same conditions as they did in the 14th century. It is currently the 21st century. Doesn't say much about Afghanistan.
@yaotails66304 жыл бұрын
The fact that he said the BMP-2 had a bigger gun than the BMP-1 just made me laugh way too much.
@josephahner30313 жыл бұрын
It's not bigger but it does have more firepower, which is what i think he meant.
@SuperMisteriPlayer3 жыл бұрын
Well it is longer
@yaotails66303 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMisteriPlayer Well I know that, but it sounded like he said it in regards to caliber. The BMP-1's 2A48 is 73mm where as the BMP-2's 2A42 is 30mm. I just found it really amusing at the time.
@josephahner30313 жыл бұрын
@@yaotails6630 30mm
@yaotails66303 жыл бұрын
@@josephahner3031 My bad, Forgot the 2A42 Was 30mm and not 20mm.
@edisoncambod83355 жыл бұрын
Tha abrams is effective under american use. Give them to the arabs and it becomes just like any other " russian" tank. The only reason an abrams tank is effective is because it is supported with ifv, apache, drones and other assets.
@ozzy77635 жыл бұрын
Edison Cambod like any other tank
@MyUnoriginalUsername5 жыл бұрын
Americans compare their own tankers with their best trained crews and frontline upgraded tanks against Polish exported T72's ( they were downgraded export versions of Russian T72 and when Poland sold them to Iraq ect they were downgraded even more ) so some people think a bunch of civilians in a downgraded tank will be the same as a T72 on steroids against a trained Russian crew
@thenevadadesertrat27135 жыл бұрын
In WWII the Germans never deployed tanks without support units. As long as they were able to. They had "Panzergrenadiers" units with machine guns in case of infantry attacks.
@HyperNebula5 жыл бұрын
And their crew, that is one of their important key things
@kurosumomo5 жыл бұрын
Well the Abrams has not engaged in any conflict where it had to fight a similar era opponent, all of the engagements were against T-55s, Type 69 and export variants of T-72s.
@ibeastee24355 жыл бұрын
“The efficiency of something doesn’t come from the thing itself but rather the skill, experience, and discipline of its user” -Franklin D. Roosevelt
@mckitsune76004 жыл бұрын
*laughs in winter war*
@joeknow37124 жыл бұрын
Lol no
@mckitsune76004 жыл бұрын
@@joeknow3712 the Russians had tanks and aircraft. one of history best snipers the white death scored 300 kills using an old mosen. the finish took out Russian tanks using a vodka bottle with a bit of fuel mixed in. so how am I wrong? the reason I said the comment was due to the fact the finish fought off the Russians with bare bones equipment.
@joeknow37124 жыл бұрын
@@mckitsune7600 My comment was directed at the quote above and despite how good of a resistance the Finnish put up at the beginning, they still lost the war in the end.
@mckitsune76004 жыл бұрын
@@joeknow3712 my bad. and yes while they lost the damage they inflected showed the world how unorganized the red army was.
@dumaran88614 жыл бұрын
"i just want to point out SOME mistakes" Proceeds to point out everything.
@domino13233 жыл бұрын
To be fair the video he was reviewing was very wrong in many ways
@darionbalkaran7903 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@deronchoo34013 жыл бұрын
Ya the video redeffect review sounded to pro western.
@Wallyworld303 жыл бұрын
@@deronchoo3401 I watched the video he was reviewing. That dude never said American or NATO equipment was better than Soviet Gear. He did make mistakes but I never got the impression of pro western. Only actual mocking he did was of American Equipment.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97143 жыл бұрын
Cynical historian sucks so there really is not other way.
@ChristianThePagan11 ай бұрын
American tanks are better than Russian tanks … until you have a 50 metric ton rated bridge to cross and realise your M1A2 SEP weighs 67 metric tons. That’s just one example of how which tank is better depends on the terrain you are in and also on how you plan to use your tank.
@onri_10 ай бұрын
...until you don't have Air superiority because your fight a country with a legitimate army something the west seems to have forgotten.
@quan-uo5ws6 ай бұрын
Literally Ukraine right now, most ukrainian bridges cant support western tanks, while the ukrainian T-64s have no problem with this at all.
@Apopolopis5 жыл бұрын
Not only is he wrong, he has comments disabled on his video.
@zrbbg96395 жыл бұрын
Not on all of them but this one, yes.
@Apopolopis5 жыл бұрын
@@zrbbg9639 I checked two videos in a row and they both had them disabled so i guessed it was universal. I was wrong, and ill remove the last part.
@zrbbg96395 жыл бұрын
@@Apopolopis It's alright, I don't know much about this channel either. But disabling the comments in this exact video just shows he doesn't want to admit his mistakes. RedEffect probably saw this and tried to be nice.
@MikeBrown-go1pc5 жыл бұрын
Lol that is the #1 sign that he is a complete asshat
@zrbbg96395 жыл бұрын
@ecocivilian How old are you? Why are you so toxic over stupid political topics?
@F15ElectricEagle4 жыл бұрын
Any weapon that works and can still do the job it's meant to do is never truly obsolete.
@startingbark03564 жыл бұрын
If it can destroy other of its kind it still has an potential use
@frenchsoldier84854 жыл бұрын
@@startingbark0356 These are Soviet god damn tanks, and a tank has gotta kill infantry (reference to another video)
@Yuri-hk9ft4 жыл бұрын
Obsolete doesn't mean useless it means that there are much better alternatives
@fattyMcGee974 жыл бұрын
The guns on the old tanks may be fine, but if the tank is slow and can't spot the enemy first then it is a rolling coffin.
@patthonsirilim57394 жыл бұрын
m2 50 cal browning was first used in 1933 and the design of the gun is still unchanged to this day
@MatoVuc5 жыл бұрын
"they couldn't afford to manufacture a bunch of new armour" The T-55 and T-72 are 2 of the most produced tanks ever. That fact and the quoted statement do not mesh together...
@fatmanbatman93745 жыл бұрын
MatoVuc they made the t72 but not much else
@quisqueyanguy1204 жыл бұрын
@@fatmanbatman9374 Yes they did, T-80 and T-90 are examples of that.
@mavi13814 жыл бұрын
@@quisqueyanguy120 T-90 is just modernised T-72 lmao
@jakiwijaya73163 жыл бұрын
@@mavi1381 still a new tank. But in nutshell, yes
@fuckjewtube692 жыл бұрын
"Couldn't afford" was not a thing during the Soviet Union. They had as much money as the US.
@jacklin65734 жыл бұрын
In the 1980s up until the 2010s, the USSR and Russia actually bought formerly exported T-34s back for show purposes, whether it be in monuments, museums, or parades.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD5 жыл бұрын
A lot of this trashing Soviet weapons and vehicles come from people only seeing it being used by less effective users like Iraq, and such.
@easthulk995 жыл бұрын
@Mauri Mela No crap
@RomanHistoryFan476AD5 жыл бұрын
@Mauri Mela Yeah well all armies have there idiots in them, the soviets included i mean who brings tanks to a mountain.
@IvanIvanov-zv8tx5 жыл бұрын
Check the number produced and the number destroyed ...you might be badly surprised by how many US troop carriers were made and how many ...are not suit for service a long time ago ...
@RomanHistoryFan476AD5 жыл бұрын
@@IvanIvanov-zv8tx Ah yes i remember the mess the Bradley construction was.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD5 жыл бұрын
@Mauri Mela yeah winter war soviet leadership was a comedy show waiting to happen.
@mywaifu37924 жыл бұрын
US: Our tank is better than Russia. Somewhere in Russia: "An old men starting Soviet IS-3 heavy tank from his garage."
@AlexDiaz-hl8qx4 жыл бұрын
We do that shit in Texas
@csis84604 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDiaz-hl8qx you don't have IS-3's
@vulcan55674 жыл бұрын
CSIS it’s Texas they have weapons from all over the world
@gordonlawrence14484 жыл бұрын
@@csis8460 Actually the bulk of IS-3s in personal collections are in Texas.
@valhalanguardsman25884 жыл бұрын
@@gordonlawrence1448 what! How?
@culturedape60874 жыл бұрын
Be more cautious facing Ivan in a T55 than Muhammad in a T80
@Naif3mk4 жыл бұрын
Hahah me now=😐 american jokes funny no?
@moffgideon22134 жыл бұрын
Skull seems like 112 other people thought it was funny
@Elthenar4 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@Naif3mk4 жыл бұрын
your friendly neighbourhood Jew of course they thought it was funny because they’re from the usa what do you expect?
@moffgideon22134 жыл бұрын
Skull I thought it was funny, I’m not American.
@corvus17683 жыл бұрын
That guy really was like "damn, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I should make a video"
@vindicare96365 жыл бұрын
T55s completely phased out of reserves,if you look at syria,the syrian recieved T62Ms,T72Bs,T90s and T90As.They also recieved M30 howitzers.A good indicator about russian reserves.
@aleksaradojicic81145 жыл бұрын
There is diffrence betwean active reserve a.k.a US National Guard or Brit Territorial Army and reserve storages like US storages in deserts or Russian logistic bases. First are active units while second just keep equipment on number in one place. First one can be used after few weeks of intesive training, while second would need around year and more to bring equipment to usefull state and train soldiers to use it.
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
Well shit homie. It’s Jan. 2023 and I just saw T-55’s being loaded onto trains and sent west to Ukraine. That should tell you something about Russian reserves.
@offset7711 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterMuskrat6968 Where did you see that? I thought the oldest tanks they sent to ukraine were T62's
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
@@offset7711 Was a vid that was taken near the town of Samar, located a bit aways from the border. No real confirmation, yet. No real confirmation on if it’s going to Ukraine or not either, so if I didn’t say it before… add might to whatever I said before.
@offset7711 Жыл бұрын
@Christian Tonzillo Idiot Director ah okay. I only know of the t62 Tanks they sent to Ukraine. If that is true that they sent t55's than that would be embarrassing.
@SkullKing118415 жыл бұрын
Where does he get this idea that NATO wanted to push ahead steadily? The US blitzkrieged Iraq twice.
@shayanperis76815 жыл бұрын
Iraq was a very weak military and the those wars were very small scale compared to the WW3 scenarios most of these machines were designed where air superiority was not guaranteed and the enemy was probably very numerous. Try Blitzkrieg on Russian military and you'll see it wont work as well as it did in Iraq.
@wojszach44435 жыл бұрын
Maybe because cold war doctrine of NATO was all about stalling Russians as long as possible, to give chance for main USA forces to come to Europe
@hp20845 жыл бұрын
have you seen the movie Pentagon wars. Based on true story.
@stardekk14615 жыл бұрын
@@shayanperis7681 At the time of operation desert storm (first Iraq war) the Iraq army was the 5th strongest in the world.
@Scriptedviolince5 жыл бұрын
@@shayanperis7681 it's easy to see I'm hindsight, but at the time Iraq had just won the Iran Iraq war, and scars from Vietnam were still healing. We were expecting chemical warfare, trench warfare, ATGM spam out the wazoo, and hard steady fighting against crack veteran mechanized infantry forces. We were expecting the ground war to take months, and were gearing up to soak up tens of thousands of casualties. That's why we had so much manpower and gear on the ground. It was only afterwards that we realized exactly how shit the Iraqis were (pretty shit).
@jeanuardorbigoso6995 жыл бұрын
Red effect smells bias Red effect: im gonna end this whole mans career
@pedromiranda54485 жыл бұрын
What career? What career?
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
@@pedromiranda5448 Cynical historian. I watch all his stuff and he isn't going anywhere despite the mistakes we all make. :)
@patrickaalfs95845 жыл бұрын
You realize that the Abrams was introduced in 1980. Updated or not, our main battle tank would be too old to enlist in the military if it were a human being. I do smell bias, more Budweiser flavored bias than vodka flavored bias. Abrams is a joke and Bradley isn't even a tank
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
@@patrickaalfs9584 The Abrams is absolutely no joke at all and the question can only be if they could be maintained and supplied in large numbers near the Russian border. If the USA can do that they should do just fine and especially as active countermeasure comes into vogue.
@pedromiranda54485 жыл бұрын
@@pietersteenkamp5241 Dude, you obviously don't get the joke
@abelesperanz41962 жыл бұрын
"their industrial capability and general strategic doctrine into throwing everything at the wall and seeing what stuck" is what is happening right now with ukraine
@resolute23072 жыл бұрын
seems like it but nothing is sticking
@709mash2 жыл бұрын
Yup, potential history seems to be correct here.
@Icspiders2472 жыл бұрын
I remember there being a video where red claimed NLAW and Javelins wouldn't be effective lol
@Slycarlo2 жыл бұрын
@@Icspiders247 yeah i think its about ERA video, i think he got humbled and proven wrong, just like what i always say russian tanks in paper are good but they're just to be honest trash when used in combat, theres a ukrainian t64bv or its a t72amv (i forgot it was 2 weeks Ago) vs a t72b3, the russian tank wasn't able to pen the turret of the ukrainian tank and the ukrainian tank was able to return fire and able to destroy the russian tank, the russian tank is it either got shot on its side or if its frontal armor ERA isnt effective as advertised or the explosive is missing and got pocketed to buy yatch.
@mariuspretorius79132 жыл бұрын
@@Icspiders247 Just remember to take msm propoganda with a grain of slat. They were averaging 3 to 8 shots at the start of the war per tank and its much more now. Theyve used 30k+ missiles and destroyed less than 3k vehicles.
@exculpate61945 жыл бұрын
theScotishKoala: let's talk about soviet tanks RedEffect: *IT'S TOO MUCH BIASED*
@easthulk995 жыл бұрын
Literallly.
@shoppingcart95595 жыл бұрын
Scottish Koala has the brains of an Ant.
@Kuraimizu91525 жыл бұрын
@@shoppingcart9559 or maybe he is a koala
@shoppingcart95595 жыл бұрын
Crosshair TV His brain being smooth and full of tumours would explain a lot.
@enriquecadlum1895 жыл бұрын
I certainly perfer to keep an open mind in these sorts of situations merely due to the fact that most educational or informational material (at least in my country) are western/NATO/American-centric. They are willing to tell me of the "courageous" americans in the Pacific in WWII but not about how it took them 2 years to get in to the war at all while the Russians had to lift the war efforts on their backs and hold the Nazis off almost immediately after it started, and a bit after it ended in the Eastern front. We don't usually get this point of view with this level of clarity, so lets just be happy that there's someone who wants to shed some lights on misconceptions and show his side of the argument.
@ArrabelIa4 жыл бұрын
The burnt down Russian tank in thumbnail is one of the Ukrainian T-64s lost in the Ukraine conflict.
@angryhedgehog42664 жыл бұрын
Bugatti04 FUCK No you fucking idiot!
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial4 жыл бұрын
@@angryhedgehog4266 damn chill out yo
@filipkohut31924 жыл бұрын
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial True.
@sovetskayasoldier81274 жыл бұрын
@Bugatti04 FUCK used by the ukrainians not the ruskies And that equals that it was destriyed probably because it was used by the Ukrainians
@cblue34 жыл бұрын
The majority of Russian tanks are outdated, cold war era tanks that would be destroyed by modern NATO MBTs before they even knew what happened. Sorry Russian fanboys. Even the T-90 lags behind in virtually every metric compared to its NATO counterparts. Maybe the T-14 could show some promise but its difficult to sort out the reality from the propaganda when it comes to getting information on that tank.
@plantenthusiast30525 жыл бұрын
RedEffect: "I don't see anything a certain tank could do that the russian tank couldn't be able to achieve" Me: Depress their gun.
@dimitrijestevanovic48515 жыл бұрын
russian tanks are shorter than any nato tank, they dont need such a depression as american tanks.They were purposely made like that
@ThickestKYLE5 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijestevanovic4851 try doing berm drills without good depression
@virgilio63495 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijestevanovic4851 what is over hill shooting? Gun depression fucked the Iraquis pretty good when they had to go over the hill top to get shots, exposing their whole tank.
@cyka77055 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijestevanovic4851 I don't think that's a good reason thought. Would be nice if Russian tanks have deppresion
@90enemies5 жыл бұрын
@@frostruneIt's alright. This star spangling troglodyte doesn't have enough brain cell to count in the simple analogy of "This Vehicle can cross a bridge, but not all bridges can be crossed by this vehicle." He's right of course it's designed to go through mud but Physics still works the same even more so on a 70 tonnes tank against soft ground. Which is why those Star Spangled Retard has a lot of recovery vehicles.
@savios28072 жыл бұрын
Man, that reactive armor on the T-72 modern variants and T-80 and 90 Variants are is working like a charm in Ukraine! 🤣😂
@Andrew_Sword2 жыл бұрын
what can they say they never imagined having to square up against the Ukrainian farmed forces tracker go brrrr
@LyonPercival2 жыл бұрын
Even their cope cages didn't help them against Saint Javelin 😂😂😂
@acedogboy84212 жыл бұрын
@@LyonPercival there has been no evidence the cages havnt worked…. Most/ all tanks destroyed in the propaganda do not have the cage. The chieftain even ‘debunked’ this
@bubby88252 жыл бұрын
@@acedogboy8421 most destroyed Russian tanks tossed their turret some 20+ meters and landed on the would-be cage. Not hard to imagine how thin sheet metal welded in the field would simply disintegrate in the face of an NLaw or Javelin. Don't be a simp.
@acedogboy84212 жыл бұрын
@@bubby8825 there still would be evidence of the cages and yet there is none. Also you have completly missed the point of them if you think they are to stop top attack missiles. Also we are only seeing propaganda. Not misses or failures to destroy a tank. And before u say we have access to russian media ugh no we dont. Russians are banned from western media eg face book…. Not a simp just not a moron.
@germanwarrabbit4 жыл бұрын
that guy is like one of my friends he has an extreme American bias
@grammoore4 жыл бұрын
His view of military military equipment and tactics is based off military section of wiki. Hes the type of guy to say russia best cause vodka and russian bear mentality.
@viktoriyaserebryakov27554 жыл бұрын
I was about to hear him out but then he turned the comments and likes ratio off.
@andrews39514 жыл бұрын
lol have you looked at Red Effect's channel? Talk about bias
@BL4ST_4 жыл бұрын
@@andrews3951 What? lol
@cblue34 жыл бұрын
@@BL4ST_ He has a big Russian bias.
@mikugirlB34 жыл бұрын
I like how he said that the Soviets had a MBT in 1945, the Soviets never had a MBT in 1945 and the T-54 was never even produced in 1945, it was only the T-44 Medium tank, the T-54 started production 1947 all the way to 1951 and later the T-55 replaced it.
@xxfalconarasxx56593 жыл бұрын
T-54 actually had a prototype completed in 1945, so technically he's not really wrong. However, the T-54 was not classified as an MBT. It was a medium tank.
@adarret2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have dyslexia and mixed up 45 & 54 or perhaps they hadn’t noticed that number behind the T roughly corresponds, being related to and a couple of years earlier than when a particular Russian tank entered service… 🤷🏻♂️
@englishalan2222 жыл бұрын
They did have a heavy tank in 1945. The IS 2
@mikugirlB32 жыл бұрын
@@arandomdeadmau5fan861 Sorry man, can't read properly, sooooooo see ya
@kiryu-chan1590 Жыл бұрын
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 I never knew that. The more you know.
@billhamburger74444 жыл бұрын
Russia: we have many tanks Finland: Molotov time
@SexierMink16994 жыл бұрын
Molotovs killed absolutely zero tanks. It was used to fuck the crew by throwing it into air intake after it got disabled by either a satchel charge or a at mine
@billhamburger74444 жыл бұрын
Mareos42 well actually during the winter war they mainly had the t-26 at the time and it had a big open exhaust, open view ports which by the way they would put their pistol barrels into to shoot the driver and capture the tank the Finns captured a lot of Russian tanks it was a humiliating defeats and losses for the red army.
@SexierMink16994 жыл бұрын
@@billhamburger7444 Yes but we never used molotovs succesfully on moving targets. It was mainly for disabled tanks.
@billhamburger74444 жыл бұрын
Mareos42 oh I thought you meant Molotov’s we’re not able to knock out the tank the Russians were not tactical geniuses when it came to tanks the Finns made better use of them.
@SexierMink16994 жыл бұрын
@@billhamburger7444 Are you talking about foreign secretary molotov or molotovs cocktails?
@sampsalol Жыл бұрын
That statement at 2:10 about soviet/russians not using numbers to overcome the enemy did not age well when you look at Ukraine now.
@start2957 Жыл бұрын
They started with less people but more firepower, if they really wanted to use "human waves" they would've had way more mobilisations
@yiyangqin4527 Жыл бұрын
that thing is "yes soviet use number superiority sometimes but it does not mean their quality is inferior" in fact if direct compare russian and ukraine equipment now, Russian still vastly superior in quality. if you compare a T80 upgrade used by russian to some ukraine t64 or t72 the answer is pretty simple, Russian is superior. However, their serious lagging behind in informatization make their equipment vunlearbale to atgms or portable anti tank weapons in this guerrilla warfare alike place. It does not mean they were any bad or sth, the thing i saw for now, is they really need to keep up the digital and informatization progress, not really that much in their tanks
@EmiliaZiętek-w2e8 ай бұрын
Russians entered with less than 200 000 vs Armed forced of Ukraine at 250 000 + Border Guard + Territorial Guard + Volunteer units + Mobilised Active Reserve. Russians were outnumbered 2:1 in manpower but they fielded the most mechanized force in history, the ratio of armored vechicles and artillery was extremly high and because they had little regular infantry in their force composition they had to rely on tanks heavily even if the terrain was not favourable which led to significant eqiupement losses.
@thefistofshadow73925 жыл бұрын
"T72 is still in duty, is so bad its from the 80`s !!" **M1 Abrams trying to hide itself**
@cristobalalvarez54915 жыл бұрын
TheFistOfShadow you wished
@mrspeigle14 жыл бұрын
In both cases, are we talkin about the original or are we talking about the updated modernized version. Current versions of the Abrams the only have the hull shape in common with their first generation predecessors.
@otter22064 жыл бұрын
mrspeigle1 oh yeah and the 58 mm or rha on the upper plate they kept that too hahahahahah
@uio8901384 жыл бұрын
The T-72 is based on a design from 1950. Do you read or study military facts or just log on occasionally and have diarrhea of the mouth?
@otter22064 жыл бұрын
@@uio890138 another american come to defend there shit tank hahahaha
@chidon74655 жыл бұрын
Also he fails to note America still uses the Abrahms which was made in the 70's regardless of uprades its old. Yes I'm an American saying that.
@ikill-985 жыл бұрын
Also inspired from MBT 70 and it's gun a modified version of German L 44 or L 55 wait your American and your name chi don lol
@bryanmartinez66005 жыл бұрын
@@ikill-98 the newest version uses Israel APS I think called dthe Windbreaker also used on the Merkava 4
@MunSka5 жыл бұрын
Chi Don I would imagine if the US wants to create a successor to the Abrams it would just be a tank version of the F-35 Spectacularly Disastrous
@Sinberg5 жыл бұрын
It is old as a base design, but it doesn't mean it's any bad. In fact it's really nice for what the US needs.
@Feiora5 жыл бұрын
@@Sinberg Its the modularity of the Abrams that has given it such a long life span compared to its predecessors... American Military LOVES modularity in all forms...
@Tsirkon4 жыл бұрын
It's really not about "How powerful the tank is" It's really just about "How good they're using it and how good , and easy to produce it and also how easy to Operate the tank"
@lolofblitz64684 жыл бұрын
T 34
@tomi95624 жыл бұрын
@@lolofblitz6468 ah yes quantity over quality
4 жыл бұрын
@@lolofblitz6468 ....Which got massacred time and again, with German tankers noting "How odd. We manage to put three rounds on target before the crew even realises which direction we are". And about which the manual for Armee Gruppe Mitte wrote "Slow and unmoveable. Effect mostly psychological. Combat effectiveness: Very low.", before the manual goes on to describe various ways you can disable a T34, even with a bottle, or a rifle.
@thepreacher73994 жыл бұрын
@ Also happened with the Iranian conflict, US Abrams obliterated the opositions tanks even though they outnumbered them 10 to 1.
@ddandymann4 жыл бұрын
@ That explain why the Germans won the w... Wait a minute.
@azura27903 жыл бұрын
Good video. Something that people often overlook is that a tank doesn't have to be the best, or even modern, to be deadly. If you don't have basic AT weapons at your disposal, it won't matter if it's an Abrams or a Sherman coming at you, your service rifle isn't going to cut it. Obviously anti-tank tactics are more complex than simply the weapons systems designed to destroy them, but you won't stop at T-72B with an AKM or M-16.
@RG-3PO5 жыл бұрын
I always figured the Russian's "superior numbers" was meant more as "locally superior numbers". I have a older US Army battalion tactics field manual (I forget the exact one, it is packed in storage) and the manual talks about Russians using locally superior forces to cause a breakthrough. The US tactic was to create a front line that would blunt the attack, and then use a mobile reserve to counter attack once the focal point was found. A lot of these tactical ideas are only relevant when there is a frontline against two major powers.
@dusty79932 жыл бұрын
If by Russia's "superior numbers" you mean during WW2, then it also means a literal overall superiority in numbers in total too. The Soviets, which includes more than just Russia but also Mongolia and Siberia ect., deployed more frontline troops and had a larger army overall than the Axis forces. So it means both locally and overall, although the tactic of using locally superior numbers to cause a breakthrough was pretty common and was used even back in WW1 by German stormtroopers so it wasn't unique to Russia.
@JayZx7774 жыл бұрын
People loves to discredit the Russian technological achievements, this is quite common. Poland is still using upgraded T72Ms (being upgraded or phased out) and PT91 Twardy as a highly modified versions of that tank. T55s that were manufactured in Poland in the 1970s are still being used in some countries, including Syria. Soviet tanks (pre T80) are still quite common the the Eastern and Central Europe. Great video, Cheers!
@vinncentuntiedt58514 жыл бұрын
Though Poland upgraded to leopard 2
@JoJo-vm8vk4 жыл бұрын
What western army gives a shit about T-55 ? Let’s be serious. If your are PMC with limited weaponry, yep, maybe a T-55 can ruin your day. But a regular army with MBT, artillery or anti tank missiles would wipe out any T-55 before it even knows what happened.
@JayZx7774 жыл бұрын
@@vinncentuntiedt5851 Poland gotten Leopard 2A4s that will be upgraded to 2PL standard and bunch of 2A5s, but the PT91s and few T72s are still in use.
@vinncentuntiedt58514 жыл бұрын
@@JayZx777 it just shows that Poland thinks , that T 72s are severly outdatedt.
@JayZx7774 жыл бұрын
@@vinncentuntiedt5851 There was another significant plan for modernizing T72 and PT92, but that appears to be scrapped. Instead the Leopard 2a4 s are being highly upgraded to a Polish standard 2PL. Poland will most likely be buying more Leopards tanks or it will either try to develop an MBT by itself or with cooperation of another country.
@kentran81775 жыл бұрын
8:05 Awaken, my medium tanks!
@mEDIUMGap4 жыл бұрын
Japanese made light tank - Type 10
@jezzat37782 жыл бұрын
this video aged well, the very first counter point of all bmp 1s being upgraded to bmp 2 has been shown to be extremely wrong, even with the lil caveat at the end
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
Man, it’s going to be great when Ukraine starts getting those Leopard 2’s and Abrams tanks so we can finally put this nonsense to bed. NATO tanks are far superior to Russian ones. In every regard except for Weight and Height. FCS? Better. Ammunition? Better. Thermals? Better. It’s only going to get worse for Russia since the sanctions are sapping up their ability to design and build their “super tanks”
@obioraobi5 жыл бұрын
Strategy, Tactics and training effect the outcome of a battle more than the quality of weaponry, . If you have the highest quality weopens with poor tactics you will still lose to a lower quality weopens with tactics suited the strength and limitations of the weopen
@arandomt-90565 жыл бұрын
Sounds like nam to me
@Nikocum5 жыл бұрын
Saudis poor performance in Yemen is the proof of that...
@johnnyho37025 жыл бұрын
Solipsil thats it just what he said. The us army was fueled with tonns of modern helis, tanks, weapons, jets and tech but still lost by the vietnamesed that used better tactics Even with poor weapons
@stardekk14615 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyho3702 I think vietnamese weren't had better weapons. In my opinion the type-56 (Chinese version of the AKM) was better than the m16 at least at short range were most engagements were.
@stardekk14615 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyho3702 I think the vietnamese HAD better weapons*
@EcchiRevenge5 жыл бұрын
People kept trying to talk shit about T-90 not realizing T-90 is actually the cheaper, weaker version of what Russia originally was going to go with: Object.187(better slope on hull, welded turret - later adopted by T-90A, longer gun - later came in the form of 2A82 with better backward compatibility on ammunition). And that's not just on paper, multiple prototypes were built and tested, iirc one of them even had a turbine engine. The Russian "supertank" T-14 traces its lineage back to mid/late Soviet era.
@boiboiboi14194 жыл бұрын
EcchiRevenge only a dumb guy , talk shit and underestimate t90
@EcchiRevenge2 жыл бұрын
@@dewlittle1211 Not at all. You just failed to read.
@Slenderman123424 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a fan of western tanks but Soviet/Russian tanks are still incredible pieces of engineering
@bololollek92453 жыл бұрын
especially for the time they came out
@metalmadsen3 жыл бұрын
And are what are you going to use them for? Offensive actions or are you planning of fighting on the defends?
@yousifm.f.m.s45723 жыл бұрын
Of course they are , just think think about autoloading systems in their tanks . They using it since 60s
@nikolakaravida96702 жыл бұрын
@@yousifm.f.m.s4572 Autoloading is inferior to human loaders, it was made to reduce the overall profile of the tank
@TheFastcraig742 жыл бұрын
But crewed by conscripts
@91plm Жыл бұрын
what people forget is what really matters overall: numbers and logistics. i bet we could even switch the tanks between blocks. they are all good enough actually. But what matters most is who has the best capacity to sustain the troops in the field (food, amm, clothes, reinforcements, spare parts but also good combined warfare) and give them good info.
@michaelhowell23265 жыл бұрын
Also, I think you did this video quite professionally. You didn't bash CH, and just pointed out some mistakes. Good for you, man.
@kristijan995 жыл бұрын
Correct some mistakes the whole video from that guy is a mistake 😂😂 love you redeffect
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
Cynical is great but i am not sure he is any kind of military history specialist going by the content i have watched.
@jacquesstrapp32195 жыл бұрын
Neither is redeffect. He is hopelessly biased and as far as I can tell has no military experience. It is difficult to find unbiased videos on military equipment. You definitely won't find it here. Having operated Soviet equipment, I can tell you that most of what you hear from this guy is propaganda. Take everything he says from that perspective.
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesstrapp3219 Unfortunately the bias against Soviet equipment is promulgated from on high and astoundingly widely believed so it's not merely a question a bias exist but that this one is so skewed that it may convince some bigots/imperialist in the west that the nazi's just made a few small mistakes and this time the Russians are just going to fold and be easily defeated. As for your claims about soviet equipment against unfortunately many people who claim to have operated it tell lies that can be dispelled with actual photographic evidence and even lesser means. It's like we are expected to believed the dumbest things on the order of WOMD in Iraq and babies being thrown out of incubators.
@jacquesstrapp32195 жыл бұрын
ZonTheDon I'm probably the only person on this page that has actually operated Soviet tanks but you evidently think that you know more. What's YOUR experience? Watching KZbin?
@jacquesstrapp32195 жыл бұрын
Pieter Steenkamp If you think I'm lying, climb into a T 72 and slew the turret. If you're in the wrong place, it will be the last thing you do. Soviet tanks were not designed with crew comfort or safety in mind. You might think this unimportant but crew comfort directly relates to efficiency.
@hmshood92125 жыл бұрын
Leopard I and AMX-30 in 1967: “I’m in danger!”
@bryanmartinez66005 жыл бұрын
Leopard 1 focused on fast mobility but had paper thin armor that wouldn't stop rounds above 20mm rounds on the hull. Turret was stronger but Soviet tanks could easily pen them.
@randybobandyscheeseburgerp43875 жыл бұрын
HERPY DERPEDY I just auto-aim even with my tier 8s. No need to aim for weak spots!
@hekkoki5 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 Bullshit, front of the hull was pretty thick. Not as thick as M60 or t54/55, but still thick for machineguns/autocannons.
@bryanmartinez66005 жыл бұрын
@@hekkoki yeah that's why I said 20mm rounds but a Gatling gun will chew throw it's armor
@hmshood92125 жыл бұрын
troll oracle If that target survives using its composite, yikes for the Leo.
@johnlewis99072 жыл бұрын
The problem with your rebuttal, everything the Russians have performed well below there hype and specs. In Ukraine a T90M was hit by three M72’s at about 200 meters and two of the shots penetrated and knocked it out and this was a straight on shots. Several T72 BV3 where also taken out by recoiless rifles.
@Andrew_Sword2 жыл бұрын
to give the guy the benefit of the doubt this was made two years ago
@timeframe49852 жыл бұрын
I don't think they have deployed the T-90M's yet though there are pictures and reports of T-90's and T-90A's losses.
@Tounguepunchfartbox2 жыл бұрын
There’s a video of a t-80 getting penetrated by a 30mm auto cannon. Second shot went straight through.
@kazuhiramiller74912 жыл бұрын
Theres no such tank as T-72BV3, theres T-72B3's which did actually perform better than the Ukrainian T-64BVs that got annihilated en masse but the western media does whatever it can to censor Ukrainian casualties. While Russia did suffer heavy losses it never expected, the point of this video is to disprove another westerner talking bs he doesnt know about.
@Tounguepunchfartbox2 жыл бұрын
@@kazuhiramiller7491 bruh go look at oryx. The Russians are losing 4x the equipment that Ukrainians are. Russia is now changing the goalposts, scaling back the entire invasion. Would be surprised if they take a total loss at this rate.
@kden97725 жыл бұрын
I left a comment on his video that pretty much said the exact same things. It really doesn’t make any sense that the USSR would use T34s in the 60s if they actually wanted to win a war against nato.
@benedeknagy84975 жыл бұрын
@eddie money Add some cage/ERA, and those 85mm HE shells are just as deadly in infantry support role as they were 70 years ago!
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe46815 жыл бұрын
Yes. Having less tanks transforms the remaining tanks into a Super Robot armed with exploding arms and fists, powered by the power of friendship. Meanwhile, in the real world, the more targets that you offer, the better the chances for your best units to do their job uninterrupted. Also if can make a big boom at infantry, and be impervious to most of their infantry weapons, its still a big problem to the enemy.
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind No one likes to hear about their mistakes. :(
@bestamerica5 жыл бұрын
hi K... ' ussr russia was never win war anti NATO-OTAN in eastern europe... thank to american president ronald reagan did the great job... tear this wall down in germany
@alphawolfgang1735 жыл бұрын
i would use any tank in an all out war. a t34 is still dangerous as hell against softer targets. t34 in a support role is still a cannon and machineguns. id take a t34 over nothing any day.
@apertureemployee2154 жыл бұрын
7:12 Something that western tanks can do that a russian never could? How about lowering the barrel of their gun?
@dimasakbar76684 жыл бұрын
@@kraspootis9051 you're willing to forgo the benefit of in higher ground?
@castor30204 жыл бұрын
Or reversing at any other speed than crawl
@frederikbertel66213 жыл бұрын
The t 80`s had more thai 30 kph in reverse, and since the battlefields russisk tanks would fight om would be the great east european plain, High Ground would not be neccesarry
@castor30203 жыл бұрын
@@frederikbertel6621 citation please, I've understood that T80's reverse speed is doubled compared to T-72 but that is still around 10kph which is laughable compared to any other modern tank. Not to mention that most T80's have been left to storage and mostly unupgraded (some have been but the platform has been left to age because focus is on T90 and T14) due to lack of funds and issues uncovered in the chechen war. regarding your plains comment now you have a tank that can work in the open plains just like any tank in the world can but is sub-optimal at any other terrain, hardly what you want since the most important theatre for soviets and Russians was/is Central and Eastern Europe which is highly urbanized, has loads of woods, swamps and rolling hills.
@damianbisha67123 жыл бұрын
@@castor3020 Well im a tanker in Polish army in T80, it can do about 30km/h in reverse, so like 25mph? Also for more depression on a gun you just throw a log that you are always carrying behind your tank and reverse on it, or so my DS told me on my second day when I asked and walked away laughing
@AshlandMan5 жыл бұрын
9:48 They're Afghan. He is an combat veteran of the war in Afghanistan, and was a tanker before being reassigned as a cavalry scout.
@marcohorodnichev9489 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that came to my mind when you said "what can western tanks do that soviet tanks can't" what I instantly thought was "reverse". Lol
@Stepan_M5 жыл бұрын
*Thicc NATO tonk *exist* Russian HE : "imma end this tank's whole -carreer- crew"
@OliverFlinn5 жыл бұрын
in war thunder maybe, in reality, not exactly
@Stepan_M5 жыл бұрын
Oh right i forgot that part, but who knows
@OliverFlinn5 жыл бұрын
@@Stepan_M yeah, nobody is going to use HE in tank vs tank fight... sabot or heat all the way, HE are for soft targets (APCs, IFVs, or pillboxes)
@Stepan_M5 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to be sophiticated, sure
@OliverFlinn5 жыл бұрын
@@Stepan_M buddy, thats just how it is.
@thesaul94845 жыл бұрын
2:35 I would also mention the fact that T-62 was the first tank to use Depleted Uranium shells or atleast use them in real combat.
@allezoo81815 жыл бұрын
Ey whats up xd
@scotthulsey87634 жыл бұрын
T 62s were massacred by Israeli m-60s and Centurian tanks in the six day war .
@pablosarmiento37674 жыл бұрын
falopu FTW actually yes because they lack elevation and depresion... so your mighty argument is wrong
@christiandauz37424 жыл бұрын
Allies wished they had T-62 tanks during WW1 The Germans wouldn't have time to dig trenches
@mr.mercuryidk37572 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so
@randomperson57754 жыл бұрын
RedEffect:American tanks are better than russian tanks Me:tank is tank
@randomizer37774 жыл бұрын
XD
@giantskeleton24184 жыл бұрын
Just like the roads. Road is road, road go same way.
@vozhdenko9324 жыл бұрын
Нет. Tank is not tank. You are saying that the glorious Russian T14 Armata is the same as a shitty abrams.
@randomperson57754 жыл бұрын
how bout the bob semple get the meme pls
@imlivingunderyourbed78454 жыл бұрын
@@randomperson5775 The Bob Semple is not a tank, it is a God
@korbell10892 жыл бұрын
"That Soviets used numbers to overcome the enemy which isn't really true." Battle of Kursk: Russian casualties 800,000 German casualties 200,000
@JAnx012 жыл бұрын
Well, tank on tank battles against German late war panzers were tough 😛 But the post war Soviet doctrines were anything but designed around "human waves".
@marttoom59032 жыл бұрын
@@JAnx01 you right soviet doctrine included shitty tank waves... it was improvement from WWII time human waves, I must admit that, but not very smart doctrine. Putin is now attempting to win Ukraine war botched victory march with old soviet shitty tanks in wave doctrine, but he doesn't have mass army like soviets did. That is the reason, why Putin is in big trouble. P.S. I'm old, served in soviet mechanized infantry as conscripted auxiliary mechanic. I Know that from first hand.
@afonsoabreu51442 жыл бұрын
Or tanks German casualties: 1200 Russian casualties: 6,064 Or planes, German casualties: 629 Russian casualties: 2,220 It's a hell of a KD XD
@georgethompson14602 жыл бұрын
@@afonsoabreu5144 Not to mention a good chunk of Russian tanks were imported from allies, or that the trucks that supported them were all imported.
@marysartr Жыл бұрын
Those aren't the right numbers lmao. Germany had 380-430k casualties. USSR had 250k killed.
@SAUBER_KH75 жыл бұрын
That title though lol. But alas good job correcting the mistakes in a clear and easy to understand manner. You have my thanks.
@zyrolupercal21115 жыл бұрын
Dare I even say : you have my tanks.
@SAUBER_KH75 жыл бұрын
@@zyrolupercal2111 lol
@generalkenobi51735 жыл бұрын
@@zyrolupercal2111 oh u cringy boy
@zyrolupercal21115 жыл бұрын
GENERAL KENOBI Yeh I love me some good ceinte.
@DB.KOOPER4 жыл бұрын
I'm an American who was always fairly anti-Russian/Com-Bloc (a child of the late 70's/early-80s there was a LOT of Cold War propaganda running around) but it learning about military and weapons history I've come to really love Russian weapons/armaments and tactics. Really interesting to see how we did so many things so differently but with the same goals. Russian/Com-Bloc/Eastern Eurp arms/Military forces deserve respect and appreciation.
@tomwhitworth15603 жыл бұрын
Nope. They are the forces of authoritarianism and oppression as far as I am concerned.
@bobsjepanzerkampfwagen41503 жыл бұрын
Thankfully my parents never tought me to be anti-anyone only those who wish harm on us and who want to abuse us
@tomwhitworth15603 жыл бұрын
@@bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150 Like Russia
@johnsnow98873 жыл бұрын
@@tomwhitworth1560 Russia is not bothered with concerned bothered idiots
@tomwhitworth15603 жыл бұрын
@@johnsnow9887 Unless they are Eastern european
@madness1734 жыл бұрын
Tbh its just a case of who sees who first and tanks without thermals have a massive disadvantage.
@sloptek18073 жыл бұрын
It wasn't such a big problem, back in the 1970s, beginning of the 1980s
@CsendPenge2 жыл бұрын
"For decades after they became obsolete" "The USSR never ever used any armored vehicle decades after they became obsolete" And what is with T-72A in Ukraine? They shouldn't be there? :D
@Orcawhale12 жыл бұрын
That's Russia, not the USSR.
@ezorod80602 жыл бұрын
They have armor? 😓
@NickJaime2 жыл бұрын
@@ezorod8060 yes they do
@mbtenjoyer94872 жыл бұрын
That’s Russia not USSR
@treyriver56762 жыл бұрын
@@Orcawhale1 Russia did not build new T72a it inherited them form USSR.
@robyngiesbrecht52064 жыл бұрын
Sovient union: constantly iterates and designs new tanks to insure their armoured units have access to the most advanced tanks in the world, the result of which meant they have alot of different tanks and variations some western sympathizer: this tank is based on an older tank design and that means it IS an older tank
@m1garand9034 жыл бұрын
Robyn Giesbrecht commie
@chaosXP3RT2 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion of Western tanks?
@vytorbrb35684 жыл бұрын
8:29 the north koreans must had laugh after seen that ridiculous painting
@turbodel17884 жыл бұрын
Dude he just is hungry for some AP shells
@newspaperbin67634 жыл бұрын
Yea. We gotta make em laugh and then blow them up.
@764563 жыл бұрын
@@dauzlee2827 It was to affect chinese, in 1950 china was in the year of the Tiger, they wanted to scare them whit their gods.
@PsychNurseHaldol4 жыл бұрын
I was focusing on something else and I heard the music at 8:05 and i thought the Adeptus Custodes showed up.
@radwellii36464 жыл бұрын
Y e S Also Baneblade is best tank
@BleedingSnow4 жыл бұрын
Not alone brother
@sk1r44 жыл бұрын
True
@benashurov74344 жыл бұрын
A man of culture i see
@af94334 жыл бұрын
omg ikrrr
@Subutai20242 жыл бұрын
In general, currently, I do believe that the American tanks are better than the Russian tanks. Why? First, the quality of the equipment. Secondly, the quality of the maintenance, and thirdly, the training quality of the armed forces in general.
@OlegVulkanov2 жыл бұрын
@P T also 50% money
@AnhNguyen-eu4st5 жыл бұрын
VietNam still use T 54 till today . Still pretty good , we also have M41 Walker Bulldog captured from US. US and Russia tank are both good but i would choose Russian tank for its price
@chrisbusenkell5 жыл бұрын
He might've been referring to the T-55s that are still in service in other countries. It was a successful tank, the Soviets sold a lot of tanks all over the world and a lot of them are still in service. Could they compete with a top of the line tank? No, but it's impressive that they're still around and still working.
@comradeweismann69475 жыл бұрын
Blyat no one messes with Soviet Bias
@MrMattumbo5 жыл бұрын
Блят!
@roadrunner62245 жыл бұрын
except everyone with proper thermal sights who proceeds to knockout all of the russian tanks at night
@comradeweismann69475 жыл бұрын
@@roadrunner6224 not anymore these days 🇷🇺
@stardekk14615 жыл бұрын
@@comradeweismann6947 and you didn't even show a Soviet flag lol
@comradeweismann69475 жыл бұрын
@star dekk sadly, my phone keypad does not give me one. Blame the capitalist phone companies
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97143 жыл бұрын
Dont take him too seriously he fails at every topic he covers, I have no respect at the cynical historian.
@felixalgebra48883 жыл бұрын
was waiting for someone to point this out cynical historian is an absolute joke of a history channel
@myopicthunder2 жыл бұрын
hes just showing off the US education system
@louiscypher41862 жыл бұрын
@@myopicthunder it's not even the US education system though, any american should know that US tanks post WW2 were the opposite of generalised. The American's rapidly ditched their light and medium tank designs for a consolidated main battle tank design and this was in direct response to the lesson learned from Korea and Vietnam. So much so that by the 1970's the US had ditched all replacements for light and medium tank designs in favour of the Abrams. This was a point of contention for decades about whether or not such a heavy specialised main battle tank was the correct way to move forward, He's also wrong about the doctrines the Abrams from the outset to be able to breakthrough enemy tank divisions, which is why it's weight was controversial and why Chobham armor was adapted.
@Flyingcircustailwheel2 жыл бұрын
I'm not huge into armor but, his aviation stuff is wayyy off the mark.
@Andrew_Sword2 жыл бұрын
seems hes been vindicated in recent weeks lol
@radenprasetyo82344 жыл бұрын
11:33 T-34M mod 2019 with remotely operated flag
@alexandervandenberghe25503 жыл бұрын
Bruh XD
@mihover66655 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for tank expert Commenting
@warmbreeze79965 жыл бұрын
self proclamed tank expert
@mihover66655 жыл бұрын
@@warmbreeze7996 yep
@mihover66655 жыл бұрын
It just sometime funny hearing them fighting lol
@armyguy32855 жыл бұрын
I also love the people who never serve talking about specifications...
@pietersteenkamp52415 жыл бұрын
@@armyguy3285 And i find it even funnier when people who served in some bush somewhere then think they don't actually have to learn the numbers and read the history....
@peteriliev4 жыл бұрын
1:42 MT-LB is Multi-Purpose Towing Vehicle Light Armored. Its main purpose is to tow artillery guns and their crews, although in some formations it’s also used to transport motorized infantry, but it's definitely not designed for “combat fight”!
@BiSFeralDruid Жыл бұрын
"Russians never use obsolete equipment" Aged like milk on a hot day.
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
I love going back and seeing the absolute hubris from the Russians and Eastern Bloc tank enthusiasts.
@offset7711 Жыл бұрын
yeah that part about the T62 also didnt age too well lol
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
@@offset7711 We are probably a few weeks away from spotting the first T-55 in Ukraine, as a train was spotted moving towards Ukraine carrying T-55’s and old GAZ-66 Trucks
@WiscoMTB37 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterMuskrat6968 ya remember when he said all bmp 1s were upgraded to bmp 2 and there are maybe a few bmp1 left. Meanwhile 250 have been either destroyed or captured.
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
@@WiscoMTB37 Lmao, just goes to show… NEVER under any circumstances believe any numbers that come out of Russia. They are pathological liars, and are incapable of telling the truth. Pre war I’d put the number of Russian tanks at 4000-6000 total. Those include operational tanks and tanks that could be repaired and sent to the battlefield. Which would leave several thousand rusted hulks that are either complete scrap or a source of spare parts. Since a lot of the numbers of Russian Tanks in storage comes from the 90’s and has been repeated for 2 decades, meanwhile rusting, looting and sales (legally and illegally) of those tanks have been happening.
@hermanshelton36604 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the corrections. I wonder what his answer would be for our continued use of the different variants of the Abrams?
@zaborg11275 жыл бұрын
@6:50 for example firing missiles from those tanks also sounds pretty versatile to me
@anglerfishtanking5 жыл бұрын
Russian ATGM tech was far ahead of ours until the TOW systems. The Shillelagh missile was shit and that was our attempt at tank fired missiles.
@priest07015 жыл бұрын
@eddie money ... lol what?
@priest07015 жыл бұрын
@eddie money state your sources
@agham1015 жыл бұрын
Just the few seconds of the clip at the start of the video made me cringe. BURRDUMM 2
@lukabogdanovic46585 жыл бұрын
@EliteJag lmao
@Rodfriend3 жыл бұрын
Most tank doctrine between 40 though 70 had to do with logistical concerns. The m4 was a popular tank cause it was easily shipped and produced. Just like the t34 was popular cause of the ease of production.
@unknowntyrant33715 жыл бұрын
8:06 It that a jojo reference
@mayuri41844 жыл бұрын
I was anticipating such a comment.
@jakenator74274 жыл бұрын
UnknownTyrant wrrrrryyyyy
@valhalanguardsman25884 жыл бұрын
T-54: awaken my masters!
@frankwhite34065 жыл бұрын
The T62-A firing it's main gun towards the end of this video is crewed by Afghans standing on the engine deck. They paint their Tanks in an unusual shade of green. There was a documentary on them on RT.
@stephenallen4635 Жыл бұрын
And the t55s are back in service
@alexanderK27009 ай бұрын
As frontline artillery quick move since they have very versatile munitions where nato tanks don't have
@stephenallen46359 ай бұрын
@@alexanderK2700 lick soviet ass a bit more why dont you
@stephenallen46359 ай бұрын
@@alexanderK2700 🤡🤡🤡
@alexanderK27009 ай бұрын
@@stephenallen4635 bro's greatest enemy were goat breeders with sandals 😂
@SouthJerseyFirearms2 жыл бұрын
Javelins are popping all types of Russian tanks left and right in Ukraine. The tanks can’t stand up to infantry I doubt they stand any type of chance against NATO armor.
@molstad1822 жыл бұрын
the only tanks with a real chance nowadays are the T-90MS and the T-14 Armata, but they can't produce any Armatas since 1 russian ruble is equivalent to a Minecraft emerald edit: typo on T-14 Armata
@petrkdn82242 жыл бұрын
Javelin will pop any tank, including NATO tanks...
@wrpg99552 жыл бұрын
@@petrkdn8224 not true modern tanks have APS which makes missile nearly ussles
@petrkdn82242 жыл бұрын
@@wrpg9955 well modern Russian tanks also have APS, they just weren't equipped with it in the war
@jonathanpfeffer37162 жыл бұрын
@@wrpg9955 doesn’t the Russia APS system on those tanks not have 360 degree coverage? That would make it unable to be used against the Javelin that comes up and down onto its target, but it could be used against basically any other missile
@masterdanielm58215 жыл бұрын
T 34: are challenging me? T 34: im the most fastest mass produced tank in the history
@mig15bis444 жыл бұрын
M4 Sherman: Hold my beer
@GSR_handler4 жыл бұрын
T-34 and T34 is the different guy. You have to write it correctly.
@ushikiii4 жыл бұрын
@@GSR_handler when some one says T 34, they mean the T-34. Nobody is going to think about a big, and ineffective prototype, other than people who play tier 8ś in bloody world of tanks.
@GSR_handler4 жыл бұрын
@@ushikiii I'm play World Of Tank.
@ushikiii4 жыл бұрын
@@GSR_handler net, I used to. Quit playing September 2019, not that long ago.
@shanehoward41975 жыл бұрын
I was assigned to LRSC/311th MI with the 101st. I attended RSLC as such and had to learn as much as possible about Soviet era armored fighting vehicles. Russian motorized,mechanized and MBTs are amazing pieces of equipment. I've never understood people who dismiss Russian armor as inferior to our forces armor. It comes down to training in most cases. Force multipliers that come from advanced equipment have evened out somewhat with upgrades that modernize current Russian armor.
@stephenallen4635 Жыл бұрын
Well I think its quite clear now that there were plenty of bmp1s left
@OwenBeyer-nr3dv9 ай бұрын
I notice that people keep arguing which tank is better. The tanks are built to fight in different terrain and have different doctrine. People need to stop arguing.
@majesticrattoon4429 Жыл бұрын
2:05 "Now this statement is only based on myth that stuck from world war 2" That aged like a fine wine.
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts4 жыл бұрын
On the note of tanks being the most effective tank-killer, MHV checked the numbers and found that AT guns were counted for far more kills than tank-on-tank kills, so it sort of flies in the face of more tanks = victory
@bellator114 жыл бұрын
Couple of big advantages of western tanks such as esp. the Leopard 2: 1. Far better fire control & sighting system 2. Much better overall mobility (can actually reverse at speed) Yes Russian tanks featured protection on par in some areas, but the Leopard 2 has been ahead in firepower & mobility since the beginning, which is what will win most tank on tank engagements in modern times.
@darkrolf7185 Жыл бұрын
you really didnt listen?
@gareththompson27083 жыл бұрын
My overall impression is that while the Soviets fell behind a bit in the 80's (and the Russians straight up stagnated in the 90's following the collapse of the Soviet Union) for most of the Cold War the quality of their equipment was on par with (or even superior to) their NATO counterparts (they were definitely ahead in the 70's). I think between pulling a bit ahead in the 80's, then way ahead in the 90's, and then it taking a decade or so for the Russians to catch back up in the 2000's we kind of spent 30 years getting used to the idea that NATO equipment was better than Russian equipment. When in reality there really isn't any reason to think that is necessarily true as a general rule.
@Andrew_Sword2 жыл бұрын
bing bong
@jimjamauto2 жыл бұрын
The Soviets were only ever ahead in armored fighting vehicles and very briefly with infantry weapons. They were very behind the curve with aircraft.
@tavish46992 жыл бұрын
@@jimjamauto very behind ? Id sit myself in a mig everyday if i could avoid a us jet
@comareborn87342 жыл бұрын
@@jimjamauto No?
@jimjamauto2 жыл бұрын
@@tavish4699 might wanna check out those victory ratios in US vs Soviet aircraft
@216Suzan Жыл бұрын
“No t-55’s in Russian stockpiles” T-55’s appearing in Ukraine 3 years later
@yaya_is_real Жыл бұрын
It's used as mobile artillery
@ohnoes30844 ай бұрын
@@yaya_is_real it's still being used
@celebrim12 жыл бұрын
Video aged like old milk with cat piss in it. Yes, Russia had the best tanks in the world from about 1954 to 1972. After that point, they've been losing ground.
@Alecxace2 жыл бұрын
Russian tanks are absolute fucking garbage. Maybe this is skewed because of the poor tactics, no use pf secured comms and just a general logistical shit show of epic proportions.
@FriZal2 жыл бұрын
@@Alecxace The tanks are not absolutely garbage. However, compared to America, then yes. However poor logistics and communications also causes russia to have more unnecessary tanks lost in Ukraine. Also remember that they are using lots of old soviet era tanks in the war to prevent loses of their modern tanks that could be used in other important operations. Their new modern tanks are just..decent.
@Alecxace2 жыл бұрын
@@FriZal Russia has no real modern tanks in large numbers. The T90 and it’s variants are just fancy T72s! The T80s are ok but again in such small numbers it doesn’t matter. They are all Soviet era tanks, but the Abrams has been in service for 40+ years so age matters little. The “modern” T14 armatas are just like the SU-57, in such small numbers and half are prototypes that they might as well not even exist. Russia cannot afford to build new gear like it did as the Soviet Union. It really must suck for 18-24 year olds to get into a Russian tank only to cook to death from a javelin blowing it up. But I genuinely thought they’d do better than the Iraqi tanks, since their t72s were export models. Now I wonder if Chinese tanks are as bad too.
@FriZal2 жыл бұрын
@@Alecxace Yep ur right. Russia is stuck with lots of old soviet era tanks and only a few modern tanks that are even directly comparable with the Abrams. To be fair, the money they spend on military is a lot less than US. Also accounting the maintenance for the huge quantities of nukes and corruptions in the country, i doubt a lot of money ACTUALLY went into development of new modern tanks and planes. They also don’t have as large industry and economy as the US too.
@Orcawhale12 жыл бұрын
You mean the video which you didn't watch and clearly didn't understood? The tanks arn't the problem, it's still the lack of air cover and PGM, that's leaving the tanks exposed. What's more, you obviously don't know your tank history, because it's actully 1954 to 1990. The T-80B and T-80U were miles ahead of the Western design, which is the whole reason why we invented Javelins, ect.
@demos53022 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail couldnt be more accurate.
@notbappo24353 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the bmp at 1:36 is a BMP-2M. It has Atgms its 30 and a grenade launcher. I think it was made in 2016
@armata_5555 жыл бұрын
Welcome back after some time! Good video btw.
@FrodoSantana Жыл бұрын
Wow this aged poorly, “T-55 were phased out, even in reserve.” Russia then proceeds to pull them out of reserve to fight in Ukraine in 2023.
@АртемСитников-с2ш Жыл бұрын
How artillery
@MrChickennugget36011 ай бұрын
@@АртемСитников-с2ш the point is they are still in reserve.
@BlackWolf99884 ай бұрын
Yeah they are being used as indirect fire on long range.
@ohnoes30844 ай бұрын
@Velikan5.45x39mm the source is multiple videos and images of them being on the frontline of Ukraine, this is easily searchable, the Russians don't deny it either, they aren't being used as MBT's but rather as Artillery but they are still being used
@ohnoes30844 ай бұрын
@Velikan5.45x39mm lol ok then, it's not like we have videos of T55's rolling along in convoys or artillery battalions using them due to lack of actual dedicated SPG's, they are being used, theres so much photo evidence of it I have no idea how you could possibly not recognize it, we have videos of them packed on trains and transport trucks and photos from the Regiments which use them showing them firing them as SPG's, unless you're suggesting the Russians are lying about their own equipment by faking their own use of T55's to make themselves look worse then I have no idea what your huffing
@manuelarrieta66145 жыл бұрын
USA tanks are bets than russian tanks Huties: *hold my goat*
@juliosunga35305 жыл бұрын
and its Houthies.
@manuelarrieta66145 жыл бұрын
@@bonda_racing3579 Huy me hubieras respondido en español mejor xd
@jefferys.prockl86934 жыл бұрын
Sure would be nice if you guys could actually spell right
@okinawatim34214 жыл бұрын
Those were just down graded Saudi tanks. If the US showed up with their own tanks we all know it’s going to be a different story.
@swiftnicknevison48483 жыл бұрын
Love it. T-34 still in active service during parades is like saying the royal navys ships are outdated because HMS Victory is still a commissioned warship.
@derptank33085 жыл бұрын
Just a little note here, the dude was in the US Military
@tinydestroyer46725 жыл бұрын
More bias
@billhanna21485 жыл бұрын
In what capacity ? Regardless that speaks volumes to his lack of credibility 😎
@JohnLee-dn9ge5 жыл бұрын
So he has some credibility if talking about stuff he would have had direct contact and experience with. I doubt he was in contact with a lot of Soviet/Russian armor.
@marinerecon95 жыл бұрын
Most likely a pog.😁
@MikeBrown-go1pc5 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@sverdzo8134 Жыл бұрын
RedEffect: T-55 is not in active servise or reserve. Russia now: Ivan where the f*ck is that brake these tanks are terrible.
@BillyBurnsfield Жыл бұрын
dpr / lpr are using those tanks as they are more familiar with them. i havent seen a single russian regular use them
@sverdzo8134 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyBurnsfield They are not on front but there are video that T-55 are on their way to front or to repair docks.
@yaya_is_real Жыл бұрын
They're used as artillery
@JACKAL747 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyBurnsfielddpr and lpr are gone! Wagner is gone! All that's left are russian orcs left.
@BillyBurnsfield Жыл бұрын
no they arent, wagner is literally in africa right now and dpr and lpr have their own units in the russian military@@JACKAL747
@rash.h78225 жыл бұрын
Man! What stupidity from that cynical guy too much bias...... thanks redeffect you made my day 😂
@petesy033 жыл бұрын
It’s not the machine who will win in battle it’s the men who drive and command them and whoever is more cunning
@treyriver56762 жыл бұрын
Yup. Those western tanks were crushed in the Golan heights. Oh wait.. Never mind
@cwjian905 жыл бұрын
Kursk was not even the largest tank battle of the war (Brody 1941 was). My understanding is that the Russian Armed Forces in the Caucusus still had the T-62 on hand at least up till 2008 since they were used in South Ossetia
@TheTeKuZa5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the Soviets fought 18 Panzer divisions a day on average, while western front fought 4 to 6 Panzer divisions, meaning the bulk of nazi Germans were in eastern front than any fronts. And still, the Soviets entered Berlin first. Battle of Kursk is not about the biggest tank battle but more on the biggest total war battles that enough to exhaust the Germans in state of collapse
@elusive61195 жыл бұрын
The T-62 58 armies in 2008 simply turned out to be the closest and were used in the Southern Military District as a reinforcement for motorized infantry. They were used there because to them there were additional protection kits designed for Afghanistan and they were more resistant against RPGs. Now T-62M remained only in reserve for units of territorial defense and militia. Part was repaired and transferred to Syria to make up for losses.
@cwjian905 жыл бұрын
@@TheTeKuZa Brody was on the Eastern Front as well. It is not as well known because it was a defeat for the Soviets and was underplayed during the cold war. However, in terms of numbers of vehicles, 750 Axis and 3,500 Soviet tanks were involved, making it the single largest tank engagement, surpassing Prokhorovka. The Kursk campaign as a whole involved more tanks, but it was a 2 month campaign, as opposed to a week-long running battle as at Dubno/Brody, so it is not really comparable.
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTeKuZa Ahh yes, it’s not like the western Allies let the soviet get Berlin😂
@doodskie9994 жыл бұрын
8:04 WTF I was just listening to the video while I was reading a t34 article Pillar Men theme plays* Awaken my masters! WAMMUUUU
@onez95113 жыл бұрын
Lol
@EiTobi-wg6mc3 жыл бұрын
my head hurts thanks Red for pointing out the problems with cynical´s video