American vs. Canadian SCHOOLS…Who’s Smarter?

[@newtron1]

Canada is #1 in the world by having the highest percentage of its citizens with post secondary education.

[@rozzie101]

Also, Canadians sat the word Been = Bean. Not Bin.... =)

[@dissident3227]

Never lost a war too

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

@@rozzie101 False. I know exclusively Canadians and in my passed 40 years exactly zero times have any of them said it "bean" .

[@80sbabe]

@@rozzie101 Apparently you don't know what these 3 words' definition. BEEN from the verb to be, BEAN is a vegetable and a BIN is a receptable. But you're American.

[@mrfriesyumm7414]

Dissident maybe cuz they never get in wars

[@maggiebee5261]

All I can say is that my son did grades 9-11 at a school in one of the top-rated school districts in the States, and had a high B average. Then did grade 12 at an Ontario school, and his average plummeted to a low C. There is a lot of grade inflation in the US because school districts are in fierce competition to place students in prestigious universities.

[@Marcel_Audubon]

and we're supposed to believe sonny didn't just goof off in 12th grade like most other kids?? not exactly a controlled experiment, sweetie

[@Marcel_Audubon]

school districts are a monopoly ... like all monopolies, they're not in "fierce competition" with anyone ... where you getting this nonsense?

[@wombat4583]

​@@Marcel_Audubon While quality of schools vary on both sides of the border there are plenty of post secondary institutions in the U.S. who will bump Canadians grades up by a letter if applying to their schools so I wouldn't say there isn't any merit to it.

[@TracyKMainwaring]

The Ontario universities keep a list of high schools that often inflate grades. Kids these days are getting 99.9% averages, back in my day 90-95% was really high

[@HamishDuh2nd]

Is it possible the stress of moving to a Canadian school in his final year distracted him?

[@barbarakurtz3202]

As an American living in Canada..and raised 3 children in Canada..I have to say Candian life is better! And the the education system is superior.

[@nevelytv]

@Poggers guy how though? can you get into detail more? i don't know a lot about that

[@mirzamdzawadulhuqayan5946]

@Poggers guy No the foods are HEALTHIER in CANADA

[@brianmagee5951]

@Poggers guy When you are in the most ignorant person on the planet club , you should just keep quiet.

[@jeremyborno6502]

@Poggers guy Canada has multiculturalism as a policy and people are more accepting of immigrants; our food is cleaner and tastier with our bacon, milk, beef; we live the middle class lifestyle without going into huge debts; and summer can be brutal. USA ain't better based on your mentioned criteria.

[@jeremyborno6502]

@Poggers guy These foods originate from Germany. Your food isn't original either. The best food are from minorities anyway.

[@Miissakuravidel]

I wish the Canadian had looked more into how different provinces work... It's really very different in each. I'm a teacher but I've been a student in Quebec, Ontario and Nova Scotia and it's very different in each.

[@erinangel9452]

So different!

[@jodikydd]

I agree! He’s wrong about the Bachelor of Education degree for teachers from my province.

[@sherylneville4545]

Totally agree

[@MrRustybuckle]

Completely agree. Teacher in BC here and many differences than what this video stated. This video would benefit from a bit more research to correct inaccuracies or misconceptions shared.

[@sadiek8785]

@@MrRustybuckle or at least an acknowledgement that it is very Ontario-centric (what else is new?). Also a fellow teacher in BC 👩‍🏫

[@LiqdPT]

Let's be clear that you're comparing Ontario schools to whatever state he's in. I went to school in BC and 80% definitely wasn't an A. 90 is an A, 80 is a B, etc.

[@muadhib001]

Yea same in Quebec, dont know wtf he's talking about

[@teresas8929]

True

[@Paul-ls1ob]

He did say it’s province by province and the us is countrywide.

[@annettedupras7454]

In Ontario: A- is 80-84 A is 85-89 A+ is 90-100

[@LiqdPT]

@@annettedupras7454 Somebody else reminded me I was thinking of university. BC high schools 86-90 is A-, 91-95 is A and 96-100 is A+

[@leeminhyung167]

When you hit high school in Canada usually they just give you percents and forget about A, B, C and D

[@mystel5696]

I get so annoyed by that!

[@jennifermassie7227]

For me also in Canada the school started with percentages at grade 7.

[@zealanCA]

First point should have gone to Canada, since it’s more consistent with every other non-US country in the world.

[@jjjones4982]

In BC A- 86-100% B 73- 85 C+ 67-72% C 60-66% C- 50-59% where did you go to school? UBC has fraternities & sororities

[@TrentonDeacon]

Thanks I'm in BC too, and was thinking 80% is an A? That's crazy!

[@dashcroft1892]

To Upper Canadians the West means Thunder Bay. Splendor Sine Occasu

[@athenat8261]

Yes! I was coming on here to say 86% is an A! Lol where DID he go to school?

[@shadowknight82]

At university in BC it's different from highschool and elementary school grades though. At UBC: 90-100 A+, 85-89 A, 80-84 A-, 76-79 B+, 72-75 B, 68-71 B-, 64-67 C+, 60-63 C, 55-59 C-, 50-54 D, 0-49 F (fail)

[@LiqdPT]

Oh crap, you might be right. I was thinking 90 was and A. Or maybe that changed between Jr high and Sr high? Or am I confusing high school and university (SFU in my case)? So long ago...

[@GenevieveJ]

My boyfriend completed is high school in Quebec and, when he moved in the USA with his family, he (to his great despair) had to do an additional high school year. So he had to pass an English exam by the end of the year and, unexpectedly, he passed it with no problem -- even though a lot of his friends struggled to pass it. We're French. English is our second language -- and he nailed the test better than US citzens. 🤣 Also, back in Quebec, he was in the "easy" math class for his last year, since science wasn't his forte -- and he told me that the math he took there was an equivalent of our second year of high school. 😐🤷‍♀️

[@DWokquail]

I was curious also about that, because I've always heard the Canadian education system is better rounded, but then these score comparisons make it seem as if there's a harsher grading system (but I don't think that's really a good indicator of the information taught in classes. . But even my brother was learning mathematics in grade 2 that I was taught in grade 4, and i was only 4 years ahead of him.

[@shannondavidson683]

Exactly. You can't compare average education difficulty - and how it relates to average intelligence being obtained from the education system - by solely comparing what grade level he percentages equate to. That was extremely frustrating to me! Actually, much of this comparison was frustrating as it was illogical.

[@billhamilton2366]

Well ...it is Queerbec afterall

[@Canadian_Prodigy]

Americans think they are smarter and better that’s fine with me until they move to Canada and realize we do everything do plus more and let alone how much smarter we do shit.

[@AlphineWolf]

Well our dumbest province exam wise is smarter than the smartest us state according to an article my band teacher read.

[@Nunavuter1]

My high school and university in Ontario just used percentages rather than letter grades. Percentages are percentages. Letter grades just provide an envelope around the percentages. Indeed within Canada some provinces vary in how they assign letter grades.

[@Loruca]

My Ontario private college didn't use letters: it used numbers, 4.0 being the highest you could get.

[@sadiek8785]

Indeed. I was confused by the percentages he listed for Canadian As and Bs because it's different from what ours are in BC: A=86-100, B=73-85

[@fredericleclerc9037]

Yup in Quebec we only use percentile.

[@Nunavuter1]

@@Loruca A Grade Point Average (GPA) system? A 2.0 would be a minimum acceptable grade in such a system.

[@shannondavidson683]

Exactly. The Canadian man here is obviously not up to speed on the current educational system here in Canada. I only see percentages reflected on report cards. It is my generation (the parents of school aged kids) and older that are the culprits of then associating that percentage to a letter grade from our school experience.

[@gpan62]

Canadian dude keeps citing Ontario examples for all of Canada...in BC there's only one public system. Catholic schools are considered "independent" rather than "private" because their tuition is less, sometimes nil

[@ralphvelthuis2359]

In Alberta, the catholic schools are part of the public system. With your property taxes you decide whether you want the school tax portion of it goes to regular public school or catholic school.

[@billhamilton2366]

BC has to be different ..... If the other Canadians move to BC, the BC means Bring Cash....lots of it ....

[@nateh1135]

The reason Catholic schools are publicly-funded in the provinces of Ontario, Saskatchewan and Alberta is because such denominational schools were embedded into Section 93 of the Constitution Act (1867) which guarantees funding for religious-based separate schools provided the separate schools were established by law prior to the province joining Confederation. This was reaffirmed in Section 29 of the Charter. This provision did not apply to Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Manitoba, British Columbia, and Prince Edward Island, since those provinces did not provide a legal guarantee for separate schools prior to Confederation. Due to our joint French and English history, Catholic schools were created to appease the French minority in the select anglophone provinces pre-1867. Quebec got rid of Catholic schools during the 1990s, but it required a constitutional amendment and was borne from a resentment against Catholicism that spawned during the Quiet Revolution of the 1960s. Ontario, meanwhile, has faced heavy resistance to completely secularize its education.

[@eynightgal]

@@nateh1135 I am glad you clarified this. I didn't feel like typing it all in myself.😉

[@Kieop]

@@nateh1135 Manitoba also entered Confederation with both Catholic and Protestant public schools. As Francophones began moving west, demand for Catholic schools decreased and in 1890, Manitoba removed French as an official language and abolished the separate schools, which led to "Manitoba Schools Crisis". The feds got involved, but it was not overturned. Nfld also entered Confederation with a denominational school system, but abolished it in 1998. I believe they had a referendum though, thus no constitutional crisis.

[@leeminhyung167]

All I can say is that at least in Canada we don’t have Standardized Tests. And the plus is that they don’t screw over our future.

[@emmygrondin8425]

Quebec has the cote R that’s screws futures tho

[@taylornicole7845]

Lol Ontario does, just not one to graduate, didn't you do the literacy exam ?? Lol

[@billhamilton2366]

I was a tech boy so I did not study the usual collegiate subjects after grade 9. My curriculum was heavily weighted towards maths, sciences and other technical subjects and since I enjoyed it so much I have turned into an infomaniac. If you are well read and have been exposed to may different subjects, you get the joke.

[@valdobie2797]

We still have standardised tests in BC.

[@jennadeagle5394]

In Alberta, the Government has provinical exams such as: the PATs (Provinicial Achievement Tests) which are tested in grades 3,6, and 9 covering all subjects and diplomas which happen in grade 12 again in all "30" (grade 12) course that used to be worth 50% and now are worth 30% of our grade, (well that's what they were worth when I graduated in 2018). So growing up these exams were pretty stressful as I'm like Jason and suck at test taking. My parents, boyfriend, and I were talking about how these impact our futures to a certain degree like when my boyfriend graduated in 2014, I think the diplomas were worth 50% so im glad I didn't experience that as they were only worth 30%, but they seriously sucked more than my current technically 3rd year university exams lol.

[@Bellmere]

When I was working in Tokyo, I had staff drawn from universities all over the world, places like Duke, Wharton and Stanford in the U.S.. While their cognitive skills were as good as anyone, I found that graduates from U.S. universities - even the top schools - had appallingly little knowledge of the world (history, geography, cultures, even city names) and their written communication was well below par. What they did know, in excruciating if sometimes mistaken detail, was all about 'Merica and how much better it was than anywhere else on the planet.

[@evelynmacmillan2485]

As a Canadian, when I travel to other countries and they ask if I am American, I answer by asking if I seem that arrogant. Being the richest, most powerful country in the world, does not make you the greatest country in the world, How you treat your citizens does.

[@Sombra_Azul_]

@Evelyn MacMillan ☝️

[@greenmachine5600]

Not everyone is like that. Many history and geography lovers in the US

[@ginaleong8088]

Teachers' College is specific to Ontario. I got my B. Ed in Alberta in 4 years and then got a teaching job right away.

[@billhamilton2366]

You have to understand Ontarians think the world revolves around snowflake left wing Toronto. After-all it is the center of the universe you know.....

[@hvypower2472]

It is also different in Québec than the rest of Canada.

[@charlesfecteau]

@@MissShey89 Weirdly, the Quebec school system is closer to the British one compare to the other Canadian provincial systems

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

It's different in the rest of everywhere. Each province is different.

[@tonylarussa4046]

It's always different in Quebec.

[@susantom4400]

Tony La Russa That should be on a T shirt

[@lisakourkafas6410]

Here's the thing USA doesn't learn anything really about Canada but we have a full year in high school of American History and geography

[@Miissakuravidel]

What??? Must have been an elective cause I certainly never had to take American history. That's very strange that you did.

[@80sbabe]

Wow, never had to take American anything in school. It was Canadian history and geography. Did you go to a private or international school?

[@Loruca]

I agree with Lisa, so I'm wondering, because of the disagreements I see here, whether it depends on where and when you went to school. I certainly took a lot of American history in school, so I'm guessing the ones who didn't might be of a different generation.

[@Lindsay-D]

i learned both american and canadian history and both geography (im canadian )

[@jasonsargent3164]

Very true. We had brief lesson on The Canadian American War in Junior High School. 7th Grade.

[@tararenae6082]

I was born and raised in South Dakota (during the 70's) Yes, I'm old. We went Kindergarten - 6th Grade which was called Elementary Schools. 7-9 was Junior High. 10-12 was High School and we were called Sophomores, Juniors and Seniors. I now live in Canada (married to a Canadian) I've been here almost 15 years and do have Canadian Citizenship as well. I have been asked many...many times about the grade levels and the grades. Really nice to hear you 2 break it down. *Thank you* I went to a State funded University but always called it "my colleges days" It was 4 years and there also, they use the Freshman, Sophomore, Junior and Senior wherein you eventually go into your masters and doctorates. That does seem confusing to some Canadians as I have had to explain it several times. Thanks Guys!!!!! Love watching your videos!

[@joycon.mp4619]

I'm from alberta so its like that for me too :O

[@justylex]

When I was in high school back in the late 80’s-early 90’s in Ontario, we had grade 13. Basically, to qualify for University admission, you needed to earn 6 Ontario Academic Credits, which you did in Grade 13. So those who chose not to go to University would usually graduate out of grade 12 and those planning to attend University would graduate out of grade 13. I was so thankful for that extra year of maturity! I was 19 when I started University, whereas my son (an October baby) will be 17.

[@shieh.4743]

Same. It didn't change until the early 2000s, but it was a better system.

[@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391]

Indeed. There were even students whom received their diploma. Worked for two - four years to support their family put money aside for university then return for their OAC credits.

[@megawave79]

I would love to have an extra year of highschool, especially now.

[@justylex]

@@megawave79 for sure. My daughter is in grade 11, and with all of the disruptions from Covid, I really just do not see her being ready for post-secondary after next year.

[@quebecer4605]

I love rewatching your You Tube video's. I never get tired of them!

[@MicheIIePucca]

Alberta was Elementary Grades 1 to 6, Junior High was 7,8,9 and high school was 10,11 and 12 :)

[@jackmason5278]

Same in the Caldwell - West Caldwell school system in New Jersey, USA.

[@terrym.8008]

My daughter went to a university in the states after high school in BC. All her first year classes were things she had already studied in grade 11 and 12.

[@suesimons6829]

You should have compared the salaries of teachers in different locations. In the USA a lot of teachers are barely making a living wage and have to take on second jobs.

[@Paul-ls1ob]

If you ask a teacher in Ontario they’d say the same thing. Average annual salary in Ontario for a teacher 90,000

[@chelseagirl278]

@@Paul-ls1ob some up to 100K!

[@lukemonsterg4819]

Teachers need more money! They put in lots of hard work to earn less than the garbage man :/

[@JosephD]

So many differences! We only scratched the surface really. It’s even hard to figure it all out within one country. I know I missed lots. We definitely learned a lot, even about our own country's schools. What differences did we miss???

[@charlesgallagher1376]

The difference between the suburban and city schools. It’s all about money and segregation in redlined Buffalo.

[@adamchambers9454]

Excellent video, guys! From a Buffalonian.

[@baroose67]

From everything I know teachers salaries here are on average a lot higher than in the States. That's true for NB and Maine I know. My neighbour is a teacher in Maine and my nephew teaches the same grades here. Competition to get a fulltime teacher's contract here is a lot more than over there. I am not sure if that makes any difference or not.

[@iamthewalrus1983]

I realized that Quebec is soo different. Most of the things you mentioned are completely different here...

[@Loruca]

I just left a comment below that really belongs here. The comment deals with how sports are viewed in the the two countries. Huge differences!

[@leeminhyung167]

There are also art schools, catholic schools, French Emerson, etc schools. Some elementary schools only go to grade 6 and others grade 8.

[@chelseagirl278]

* French Immersion

[@MattVey]

Love these videos. They are A+, Eh?

[@Jay-0102]

In Alberta we have PATs(Provincial achievement test) in Grade 3, 6, 9 and 12. Grade 12's PAT is just known as the diploma exams

[@ValouT]

In Québec we don’t really use letter grading... we just use the % and also I’m a teacher and I just had to do a 4 years bachelor degree in teaching... none of that teacher college thing

[@TheBlueQuasar]

You two are a hoot. Can’t fathom how someone could get upset with any part of your content.

[@ianmunro5677]

I moved between provinces when I was in school and saw very different education systems, learning different things at different times by different methods. I schooled in New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia. All very different.

[@donnahenderson4727]

Animal House is actually based, in par, about Ivan Reitam’s experience at McMaster University in Hamilton. Some Canadian universities have fraternities and sororities.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

3:16 some universities in my area use those terms but not high schools 3:44 dafuq you mean? That makes literally no difference. 3:46 what do you mean? The terms are old? I think saying grade 6 is older.

[@lorrainegadoury9807]

In Manitoba you can get a bachelors degree in education in 4 years. We don’t have teachers’ college.

[@lululov619]

I never got letter grades in high school or college it was all percentages. I went to school in Peel Region in Ontario.

[@terminator1562]

degrassi is a show about canadian schools

[@acidroofproductions9378]

I want to see Degrassi review from these two.

[@KlassyKat45]

There may not be any movies about Canadian Schools but the Degrassi series is a good one to watch from Degrassi Jr. High and Degrassi High in the 80's to the Next Generation. I went to several elementary schools since we moved around a lot. When I got to Jr. High in the late '79 it was grades 7-9. High school was 10-12. Now it's changed. Jr. High is now middle school. I think Grades 5 or 6 to 8 and high school is Grades 9-12.

[@galeem713]

I did grades 1-7 in Quebec, doing 6 and 7 at the same time. We moved to Ontario and I started grade 9, never doing grade 8. To pass, every student needed an 85%. I did 11 and 12 together. I was an RN before my 18th birthday.

[@80sbabe]

Wow. That's impressive but in Quebec, I didn't know anyone who skipped a grade and I knew lots of students who always had 90s in all their subjects. I guess it's easier in Ontario? Heck, I was even an honour roll student in high school and I never skipped a grade! But like I said others had much higher grades than me and they never got bumped a grade.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

2:44 are you sure about that? They belong to their own catholic district school board. You should ask your parents about that to be sure. Or look it up? 8:3 what about the territories?

[@lisakourkafas6410]

You forgot 12 plus for high school kind of the old grade 13 or pre-university classes in Ontario

[@josephwknox]

OAC's (Ontario Academic Cerdit) is what it was called... My age was the last of the OAC's and I had to take them to be able to go to University. Otherwise you graduated in Grade 12 and then could go to a College.

[@lisakourkafas6410]

@@josephwknox yeah same when I went to high school my nephew is staying in school he graduated this year and my sister said they call it 12 plus now.

[@TheBlueQuasar]

Grade 12+ a.k.a. “The Victory Lap”

[@justylex]

Sure wish they still had grade 13!!! I was 19 when I began University. My son will be 17. Big maturity difference!

[@susantom4400]

The Blue Quasar yes victory lap here in Durham region. But they don’t allow it anymore for most students because there is no funding for that extra year. I think if you have to have some kind of diagnosis.

[@monkmayfair3487]

See where I grew up in Canada (Calgary), we had elementary school (grades 1-6), Jr. high school (7-9), and high school (10-12). The whole Junior, Senior, Sophomore thing is confusing.

[@beccasmama63]

From what I have seen from different videos, the whole education difference is that Canada learns more about the world whereas the US mostly learns about the US. There are many question videos of people asking questions to people on the street and they usually show that the Americans that were asked, didn't know much about their own country as well as the world but other countries including Canada, their questions were answered correctly in more cases......not all though.

[@jediskunk67]

Wrong, I learned about the whole world in history class.

[@beccasmama63]

@@jediskunk67 I said mostly not all.

[@bunzeebear2973]

The education curriculum is laid out for the teachers to follow. Social Studies was a time to learn about the world- the Ancient World of Egypt, Sumeria, Mesopotamia, Babylonians, Akkadians, Ancient Greece, Rome, Anglo Saxons, Britannia, Holy Roman Empire(so it was all European based. . I was never taught about the U.S. (because it is on TV everyday.)? & in books?

[@ThatDamnPandaKai]

I've gone to school both in the US and Canada.. and the cirriculum for me was EASIER in the US than in Canada. In Canada I never got anything higher than a B, and in the US I would regularly get As.

[@TheDanno210]

I have always enjoyed your vids since the KZbins first suggested last year that I might like them - and it was right per usual. As you guys have gone along, the videos are getting better and even more interesting. Don’t get me wrong - I’m American and my spouse is Canadian and we live in the US so we perhaps get an extra amount of joy from your vids - but I love the wacky ones you guys were doing pre-COVID and I look forward to those hopefully reappearing once life gets at least somewhat back to normal. But I applaud your efforts at also expanding your horizons while also maintaining the levity and humor that seems to come so naturally to you both. I’m happy to see you’re now making strides at addressing current issues which might not always be comfortable to talk about for everyone, or even anyone, but you guys have an amazing and complimentary back and forth and are easy to listen to which makes things more palatable while not detracting from the messages you’re trying to convey. You guys are in my top five favorite KZbinrs and I’m always looking forward to what comes next. CHEERS! 😄👍🏻

[@life_as_we_know_it]

While an A was 80-100% growing up our stuff was graded by percentage. I didn’t get letter grades until post-secondary.

[@kevinbergin2225]

University generally means they provide terminal or advance degrees (PhD) or professional schools (Medical and/or law). Both colleges and universities provide bachelor's degrees. Master's degrees are the gray area. Some colleges offer them and some colleges do not. Associate degrees are generally provided by community colleges or junior colleges.

[@quebecer4605]

Growing up in America, I had Junior High School (grades 7-9). My daughter's went to Middle School (grades 6-8)

[@karenjones1897]

we had elementary/ primary k -6, jr hi 7 & 8, high school 9 -12

[@wampy31]

Yeah, he said elementary was k-8, which is not true for everywhere in the US. I would say most school districts have a middle school (or junior high, as mine was called) for grades 7 & 8.

[@RLMARMEN]

Being an English Quebecer I went to english schools in Quebec City. Elementary school was from kindergarten to grade 7 then high school grade 8 to grade 11. Grade 12 was dropped and so before being able to go to university we went to CEJEP for two years . We were then allowed to apply for university. I did one year of CEJEP ( basically grade 12 and 13 which prepped us for university) then went to college in Ontario. Those who went to university in Ontario had an extra year if they skipped CEJEP I believe.

[@katieburgess6839]

In Ontario high schools and universities, the percentage is what we put on the report card. For example if you get 88%, that's what is on your report - not an A, not a B. The letter you call it is pretty irrelevant.

[@VeryCherryCherry]

When Jason looked over his shoulder (to bring in his margarita), the video cut away to a Tostidos salsa ad, so it looked like he cut away momentarily to lovingly look at and sing to his jar of salsa in the cupboard. 🤣🤣🤣

[@alexandraaallaire7930]

University is cheaper in Canada then USA.

[@robertallard759]

But than again, we can wonder why...

[@johnr7499]

No it’s not, it is a hell of a LOT CHEAPER to go to university in Canada then USA!!

[@lauremarchildon7312]

@@johnr7499 That's what she said :/

[@MrAl67]

“Then”?

[@alexandraaallaire7930]

@@MrAl67 Then more people have access to it, then USA, who struggle with dets after or the wealthiest.

[@bd8855]

We used to have grade 13 too, was optional though. That was wayyy back in 1975

[@evileyeball]

My brother is a teacher here, He did 4 Years Batchelor of Arts, then His BeD then he did his Masters in Library Science and is currently working as A Teacher Librarian in a BC High School.

[@jeanine9]

He must be really intelligent. Good for him.

[@RD-fb6ei]

The American math curriculum is wayyyyyyy ahead of the Canadian one. Here in Ontario we don't even learn about functions until the 11th grade. Funnily enough, the same thing can be said about our computer science courses. It's a fucking mess.

[@maisie2328]

as someone from pei, in school we are never given A B or C and stuff like that. in primary(K-3) and elementary(4-6) we get a 1 2 3 or 4 on our report card. in jr high (7-9) or high school (10-12) we get a percentage

[@sopdox]

New Yorker here. 2 kids in college and another starting in the fall. A university has several colleges under its umbrella. NYU has a school of medicine, a finance college, etc. A stand-alone institution is a College without any separate institutions. My sons are going to a CUNY college. This is NY City’s version of a state funded school but is funded by the City of NY. All the schools are in the 5 boroughs of NYC and most students live at home and commute to school. There are dorms at some campuses as the schools are open to anyone no matter where they live. We are lucky, the level of education at a CUNY school is comparable to state and private colleges/universities and is even cheaper than a State funded school. Tuition is currently about $9k per year for in-state commuters. By comparison, my daughter’s Catholic high school tuition cost the same. She will be attending a private in-state university makes the SAT or ACT optional if your average is above a 90, mandatory if it’s below. Many more schools are making these tests optional and some are dropping them as a requirement altogether. Her tuition is about $46k per year without dormitory costs. She received scholarships covering about half the tuition. The rest gets paid out of pocket or by getting a student loan.

[@timandsuelegere7231]

Here in NS you begin school at age 5 and it is called primary the first year. Prior to going to school it is called Pre-K, in which you go 2 or 3 days a week in the morning or afternoon, this is in preparation for school. When you begin school you go all 5 week days and once you finish primary you begin grade 1.

[@darrengavin6197]

There are country wide tests in Canada. It's not yearly, but at specific grades.

[@MadHatter91]

So the triva battle will be posted on canada day seems like a great day to win :)

[@wizardsuth]

When I went to high school, one reason we didn't call people freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors was that we also had grade 13. Calling both the grade 12 and grade 13 student "seniors" would have been confusing. Here the word "freshman" (or "frosh") generally refers to first year university students.

[@jefflacey154]

Animal House was inspired by Ivan Reitman's time at McMaster University.

[@susantom4400]

Jeff Lacey Western is also a big fraternity university

[@dakotaskong759]

I’m curious because I always hear about “home ec” (or smth idk how it’s spelt) in American tv shows and we never had that or a class like that other than a foods course for cooking and nutrition. Is home-ec a real course in america?

[@bunzeebear2973]

We got used to the system used in our area. "in B.C." Kindergarten is basically pre school, so not mandatory. Glorified babysitting service. Grade 1 is mandatory at age 6 & "Elementary School" is from Grade 1 to 7. Secondary school(aka High school) is from Grade 8 to 12. There were no scholarships for gifted athletics. As schools were funded by taxpayer dollars from property taxes, everybody who had property, Paid into the POT. (kid or not) What is disappointing to see is that the rating system is changing on how "Billy" is doing in school. It was a letter system "A,B,C+,C,C-,D,E,F" that later changed into a percentage system for a short while to a "Commentary of words that really meant nothing to the parent. & that was a report card? (It might as well be written in Klingon.)or in Ancient Greek.

[@ruthwoodin550]

I totally love you two guys. Each proud of their own country. I have a buddy in San Francisco. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. We have many discussions about which country is smarter. We agree sometimes & disagree on other times. You two fellows show the love & friendship people can have no matter you live. Thankyou!!

[@JosephD]

Thanks Ruth!

[@SA-ks9vz]

Canadians know more US history than Americans do. Canada ranks 19th in the world vs US ranking 31st. Eastern Europe and Asia have the best Education. Any country that uses multiple choice for exams is not in the top 10.

[@sbcwinn]

In Quebec you can get an associates degree (Equivalent...) for free.You can become an x-ray technician, and many technical degrees in Quebec without paying anything except a small registration fee. In Canada a post secondary education is a right. In the USA it is a priveledge. Compare the costs you ninnies. I think that the US has us beat in school culture. But your three criteria didn't take cost or accessability into account.

[@susantom4400]

Sheldon Cwinn Ontario is a money grab but still cheaper than US. Tuition at Carleton in Ottawa is about $7200 per year

[@dansedevie123]

An 80-100 being an A is only an advantage if your teacher is converting percentage marks to letter grades. It's not so great the other way around, when a rubric letter grade is converted to percent. Your A could be converted to an 86%.

[@silviaortiz9008]

Where are all my BC people. I'm here going that not right lol. Catholic school is private in BC, and A in BC starts at 86%

[@gng11]

To get in to post-secondary schools in B.C. you need to write and pass exams in public secondary schools (high schools) called provincial exams, or as we call it "the provincials". It used to in grade 12 only (12th grade or Senior year for you folks in America) but now it includes grades 10-12. If you didn't pass you either have to spend time in summer school to finish the classes that are mandatory (math 11/math 12, chemistry/physics 12) in order to graduate at the very least or if you're aiming for college or university, you'll need to rewrite it until you pass, AFAIK. When you graduate from secondary schools, you get a Dogwood Certificate (aka the high school diploma). There are private schools (aka the rich kids schools) but the curriculum must be followed to the provincial government's standards.

[@Imman1s]

You are wrong about that, Catholic schools in BC like in most of Canada are at least partially funded by the government so they are technically independent schools, not private. People use the term private mostly to pat themselves in the back for paying for a "superior" education for their children, but that's about it. Is not like Canada is the same as the US where the public system is garbage. www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-private-school-funding-explainer-1.5043035 Also, I find the whole letter system simply dumb, a numerical grading score allows for better qualitative comparisons and foster a more competitive environment among the best students. And that at the best of times when is computed from objective results (aka % of correct of total), when it comes from a relative student ranking is simply retarded and completely meaningless.

[@gng11]

@@Imman1s I'm referring to mainly non religious private schools, at least in my time having two private schools (academies as they are known) next to my public elementary school. Most of the time the fees are paid by those who can afford it. Of course some provincial funding is involved one way or another, but in general, private schools like these are entirely rich kids schools. I had a relative who could afford to go there so I know. Things may have changed since then.

[@trishaflowerprincesstarot]

Yay new video!

[@daletrecartin1563]

I grew up in a border town in Canada and our drop-outs would go across the border, take a couple of US-centric classes like American history and learn about American civics. They would then graduate US high school while failing in Canada. This was 50 years ago, but I have little reason to think it has changed much.

[@barbarae-b507]

It is harder to an A get in Canada We used to have the sats that you did in Grade 13. It was your university entrance test. We had initiation in my high school. They eventually stopped it when people were put in beer barrels and rolled them down The Main Street of Ontario Yonge St. It was considered too dangerous.

[@luispv08]

Some American Universities are going away from the SAT's and ACT's the University of Washington doesn't require them as of this year.

[@Loruca]

I had a job that had me travelling all over Canada and the United States, doing, amongst other things, theatrical shows dealing with substance abuse, bullying, and other issues in the schools. One of the things I noticed was how sports-centered American schools were. The college teams were big, of course, but even high school football was huge. Our schools in Canada do have sports, but they don't take center stage they way they do in the States, where it seemed like things like the arts took second place. The Glee TV show isn't completely wrong there--sports teams got the money. Our universities don't even have sports scholarships, so our really talented athletes end up south of the border where they can get a full ride.

[@brandi3083]

Canada does have sport scholarships, I have friends that got them.

[@psycatnip]

I never realized the college I took in Canada was using a US system. I got a bachelor's degree from it and it used the same grading system as the States. When I finally made it to my master's program in University I was shocked by how easy it was to get an A in comparison.

[@jeanine9]

I went to school on military bases until high school when my father was retiring. Military school is only for kids whose parents are serving in the military. It was very nice. I went to a horrible high school in the suburbs of Austin Texas. The school was very country.

[@karenburrows9184]

I get the impression that the grading system must be coupled to the level of the curriculum taught in order to make a valid comparison. For example, as quoted in these comments and others I've heard, the Canadian curriculum is more advanced, generally speaking, than the American one. Therefore, presumably if the American students were given the Canadian tests, the percentile of A's would drop. I wonder if this is a factor in determining the scores in Canada?

[@melissaroscher1080]

Kansas city here; in my metroplex there is "middle" school and "Junior" High. Middle is what my district did 6-8. My sis experienced junior high. Some districts post 5th had a grade in each of their own buliding. My experience with college vs University; 2 years at a public community College with an Associate degree then transferred to a second tier public university (photography/communicationsfor myself) in Missouri. I was an older student and did not use freshman- Senior labeling only in H.S. and I only took 10 credit hours (full cr load) per semester not the 12 to finish in 4 years.

[@dcinkc58]

1984 UMKC Grad here! Went to parochial school in St Louis from K-8 so missed the middle school experience, thankfully. I have yet to visit Canada but hope to when this crazy pandemic is over!

[@TheJimprez]

I'm from Quebec. We have HS from 1 to 5 and then its CEGEPS. Where you either do a 2 year pre-university program or a 3 year vocational program (From Airline pilot to Dental Assistant with Nursing, etc...) Its almost free. Tuition is in the low 100$ per semester and that's it. If you DON'T want to go there, you can do a DEP which is a high school level Professional course. Things like cooking, engine mechanic, etc.. Less academic, more hands on stuff. Then you have Universities. The Tuition in Canada varies by Province and Quebec is the cheapest or second in line.. I paid about 1500$ a year for tuition (mid 90s). But its still under 2700$ today. And we DO have good schools. The REAL problem in this province is the constant changes the Education Ministry comes up with every year to have a reason to exist. And the fact that going to an English school is almost impossible until the end of High-School. THEN Everybody is allowed to choose. And for the French that want to go to McGill or Concordia.. They HAVE to accept the homework in French.. Its harder to write than to understand a new language.. I lived all over the country and did my High School in FOUR different provinces.. Ontario, Saskatchewan, BC and Quebec.. And I took my own son to BC for a year.. THAT province was the best educational experience for ME and my son, 20 some years later..The most varied curriculum, best life preparation courses (Home Economics!!) and most well stocked shop classes.. I was doing the regular HS stuff and STILL had metal and wood working classes with major projects and took apart and rebuilt a lawnmower engine.. It was VERY cool. Plus lots of sports and outdoor activities... Its just SO EXPENSIVE to live there.. Too bad. I MET a lot of Americans taking the French as a second language course at Laval in Quebec City. All very nice except the same couple of jerks you meet everywhere.. But they ALL said that it was harder here. Denser course load.. Les time to party.. But its a quick concentrated course, so that might just be it..

[@iSAYfml]

In Alberta my sister is in the bachelor of education program which is four years and she works in schools during this time.

[@erinangel9452]

We don't have letter grading in all provinces... I've never had a letter grade. Every province is very different.

[@chrisjohnson7929]

I grew up in Saskatchewan during the 80's, early 90's. I think they had letter grading for the first couple of years of elementary, then they changed it.

[@nateh1135]

Hey guys, I just found your channel and I am really enjoying binge-watching your videos. I can't speak for the rest of Canada, but I can clear up some things for the Ontario school system specifically. First off, the reason Catholic schools are publicly-funded in the provinces of Ontario, Saskatchewan and Alberta is because such denominational schools were embedded into the Constitution Act (1867) which guarantees funding for religious-based separate schools provided the separate schools were established by law prior to the province joining Confederation. This was reaffirmed in Section 29 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Due to our joint French and English history, Catholic schools were created to appease the French minority in the anglophone provinces pre-1867. Quebec got rid of Catholic schools during the 1990s, but it required a constitutional amendment and was borne from a resentment against Catholicism that spawned during the Quiet Revolution of the 1960s. Ontario, meanwhile, has faced heavy resistance to completely secularize its education. Secondly, Ontario does have a standardized test that you need to both graduate high school and attend university called the Ontario Secondary School Literacy Test (OSSLT). It is initially taken in Grade 10; if you fail however, you can retake it in Grade 11 or, subsequently, take a course in Grade 12. The EQAO is actually about measuring the teachers' performance and schools' success, and is used by administrators to improve education if they are lacking in some areas. It does not measure student success and is not attributed to them at all. I know this is a pretty old video, but hey, if someone learns something new from this, then I'm happy to help. Keep up the good work, guys! I can't wait for more content!

[@JosephD]

This is pretty great info Nate! Interesting about the EQAO. I would bet most people don't know that. Thank you!

[@nateh1135]

@@JosephD My pleasure! Keep up the great videos! 😊

[@claudiaweidman1004]

Great video Guys 😊

[@nickiwilliams9960]

In the US..we have University which is public, usually batchelors and masters degrees and middle road as far as tuition. There are technical or community colleges are trade based oe associate degrees and these r usually cheaper than the other 2 and there is private colleges which are usually batchelors and masters degrees and are the most expensive. Private colleges also do not accept any kind of grants like the pell grant.

[@kaylajaned6764]

You can’t compare educational standards based on grades. An American A might be a higher percentage than a Canadian A, but it might require less thinking or a lower demonstration. EQAO is used to evaluate teachers and schools performance more than students. It has no bearing on college/uni acceptance.

[@susanmorton6589]

I got my Bachelor of Education (4 years). In Ontario, you can take a 3 or 4 year undergrad and then take 2 years of teacher college.

[@Whatdocowsdrink]

Love you guys ❤️❤️

[@colleenbeamer6403]

Love your videos! This one was interesting. I'm Canadian, but in general, I love the U.S. Jason is an example of what I would wish all Americans are like! You're pretty cool too, Joseph! 👍😀

[@Mr_GiLL83]

Kindly Compare Grocery Price Which One is More Expansive... 🥴😎😂

[@JennAndDrWatson]

Joseph, did you go to school in Pickering?! I went to St. Mary.

[@JosephD]

Yes I did! St Mary!

[@JPMJPM]

I’m a high school English teacher in the U.S. The policy is that if you teach a specialty subject in grades 7-12, you must get a bachelor’s degree in your subject matter. Then you get a certification afterward that can take 1-2 years, depending on your university’s requirements. I also have a master’s, which took me an extra year. Elementary school teachers (grades K-6) can major in general education and then get a certification afterward.

[@JosephD]

Ah interesting!

[@pajemiriam]

You can get your BEd concurrently with you BA or BSc at some universities.

[@mariegosselin2785]

Quebec : Kindergarden to 6 (primary school) 7 to 11 (high school, but it’s 1 to 5 for us) Cegep (2 or 3 years, dépending) 3 years you have a specialty University ( bachelor, master, doctorate, and other types of certifications) You need to pass by cegep to go to university unless you worked for a number of years (without being in school).

[@pattihanson7921]

My Canadian university had hazing where different faculties would march chanting silly songs trashing the other faculties around campus and wars were between faculties Engineering vs.Chemistry etc

[@lollylolly8186]

As a student who attended both countries schools, Canada is so much harder!! I moved to the states and even though I got A’s in Canada they converted to B’s in the States. And my math course was not accepted because it wasn’t specific to Algebra etc. So I ended up in a how to balance a check book math class. The stuff we did in 4th grade. They bumped me up a grade in the States because I was ahead. Canada does a great job getting you ready for post secondary education but in the States many students end up having to take remedial classes because they aren’t prepared especially in math and English. Tuition is ridiculous in the States. I would recommend any American student do two years at your community college then go to university. It saves you money and the classes are the same usually taught by university professors. Watch any of the late night American comedians ask people on the streets geography or something. It’s awful but funny.

[@bunzeebear2973]

American comedians ask people on the streets geography or something(while they are Bar hopping throws anybody off(as their mind is focused on the next bar location)

[@nvioletlightnvioletlight8317]

Since when did versus (vs) become verse??? I hear it all over the place. And Joseph, you say it a lot lol.

[@amyb1078]

Universities in the U.S. can be either public or private. (Harvard is an example of a private university; SUNY is a public university.) Public universities are much cheaper to attend. Colleges and universities have equal prestige and you get the same degree from both if it's a four-year (Bachelor's). But universities are larger and more likely to be centers for research.

[@alanrussette2819]

Fraternities are present in Canadian schools. UBC, Western, Laurier, McGill and University of Ottawa all have fraternities and sororities. However, there is generally no "official" relationship between the school administration and the Greek letter societies. In the US, fraternities and sororities were connected with undergraduate housing and receive a lot more support than their counterparts in Canada. In Canada, the schools know they exist but don't necessarily treat them as student organizations. Western, for example, treats fraternities like they're businesses for the purposes of booking space on campus.

[@suziesaintb]

When I went to school, they used percentages rather than grades (at least in High School). As for Teaching College, I think Ontario is the only province has a Teaching College. In Manitoba, you do 4yrs Bachelor of Education if you want to teach, and during your last year (senior year 😒), you do what is called a "practicum", then you can get your Teaching Certificate. As for the school culture... I have heard of some fraternities and sororities in some Canadian Universities (including University of Manitoba), but I think they're not as popular as in the states (mostly due to their history of hazing). However, there's more to school culture than fraternities and sororities in Canada. Like when I went to Université de St Boniface and U of Manitoba, there were cultural activities every couple of weeks, and that's not including sporting activities and guest speaker events. I was kinda disappointed that you didn't talk more about that. I think the next time you guys organize another "challenge", it needs to be on a subject that you are BOTH more familiar with, rather than just simply "guessing" how things happen. I'm talking to you, Canadian guy! Sorry, I forgot your name.

[@BobbyGenerik]

Elementary school isnt the same everywhere. Here in Massachusetts, its K-4, middle school is 5-8, and high school is 9-12.

[@acerjuglans]

I live in the most rural school district in MA. Our schools run K-6, and 7-12. The highschool has a middle school area for grades 7 and 8. I understand we are an exception. We just don't have many kids in the schools here.

[@stma05]

I dont remember doing a standardised test in Saskatchewan?? 🤔 As for teachers, they get a 4 year education degree there. Freshman and senior are for university junior and sophomore aren’t a thing.

[@benjamin6508]

So, lots of different way to do school even within the same state. I went to school in Michigan and had elementary (k-5), middle (6-8), and high school (9-12). We moved partway through my schooling and my younger brother had elementary (k-6), Jr. High (7&8), and high school (9-12). We also have state standardized tests (Michigan Merit Exam, or MME) which is taken once or twice in elementary, once in middle, and once in High School. Don't remember the exact grades except High School was in Junior Year. For th High school one part of it was the ACT, which is a similar test to the SAT and can also be used for many college admissions. Oh, and Ontario (where I live currently) not only has public catholic schools, but also public french catholic schools. So the town I'm in literally has 3 different public school boards! Michigan has regular public schools, private schools, but also charter and magnet schools. Magnet schools pull from multiple school districts in a geographic locations and focus on certain things like the arts or mathematics (my sister went to Kalamazoo Area Math and Science Center or KAMSC, and a cousin went to Maple Street Magnet School for the Arts) some are full time, and some part time, but they are run by the public school districts. Dont ask me about charter schools though, i have no clue about those lol.

[@janicem4382]

You did not take into consideration the curriculum, is it more strenuous in the US or Canada? Depending on this the marks are somewhat irrelevant.