Starship Launch Aftermath

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The aftermath of the first Starship Super Heavy launch around the launch complex, shot a couple days after launch once the public road was opened back up. The liftoff on April 20 caused significant damage to the pad, surrounding refuge & even the rocket itself. The rocket proceeded into ascent & Max Q, before tumbling & being self-destructed.
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@y_us_12
@y_us_12 Жыл бұрын
99% of damage because there was no exhaust diverting pit.
@adalvideos
@adalvideos Жыл бұрын
This is total incompetence for me...
@criztu
@criztu Жыл бұрын
@@adalvideos he was upset that Gr1Mes asked him for money to buy a huge Svarowski necklace, again..
@Nic-og2qq
@Nic-og2qq Жыл бұрын
@@adalvideos you would think that would have been in the books and to not have everything so close to a rocket launch
@DiahRhiaJones
@DiahRhiaJones Жыл бұрын
Some middle school kid drawing a launch pad would have included some form of a diverting pit. Its literally one of the most noticeable features of a launch pad and for good fucking reason. Its so mind blowing that adults are looking at this clown elon musk as somehow a smart person or innovator when he is clearly nothing of the sort. In fact, theres plenty of evidence that hes nothing more than a menace given the shit hes done. Lying about solar roofs, calling that cave rescuer a pedo, throwing a trantrum over a shitty social media website and spending a massive amount of money to buy it so that he can censor people. How the fuck have we allowed this guy to take up so much attention from real space exploration efforts let alone allowed him to effectively push the bullshit narrative that he cares about anyone other than himself??
@VV-yg1in
@VV-yg1in Жыл бұрын
Mask makes not space, but money
@francesco2647
@francesco2647 Жыл бұрын
Finally a close look inspection of debris and destruction. Thank you very much. I wonder where starship peaces landed since didn't look like a big explosion, the booster after 4 minutes was probably almost empty.
@PromasterHOF
@PromasterHOF Жыл бұрын
In the Gulf of Mexico, that is why the launch the rockets over oceans so the debris from failures land in the water not on land where people could be killed or injured and property damaged.
@jamestaylor6041
@jamestaylor6041 Жыл бұрын
you could hear the explosion from 190 miles away , that was a big explosion
@glennllewellyn7369
@glennllewellyn7369 Жыл бұрын
They need a lot of concrete in space do they?
@craciunstefan4774
@craciunstefan4774 Жыл бұрын
Din greșeli or învăța si vor remedia greșelile! Succes în continuare!
@Youtube_free_always
@Youtube_free_always Жыл бұрын
​@@PromasterHOF excellent answer, thank you for your attention.
@konya8248
@konya8248 Жыл бұрын
5:16 damn... you can actually see how that concrete rolled through the sands xD
@usapshowroom
@usapshowroom Жыл бұрын
I found something to surprise you with...we haven't had this before...I have lived half my life at the Baikonur cosmodrome...there in '69 it was even cooler than yours
@andreykolkov2724
@andreykolkov2724 Жыл бұрын
Как перекати-поле в пустыне с верблюдами)
@merky6004
@merky6004 Жыл бұрын
The rocket wanted-needed- a flame trench. Since SpaceX didn’t provide one, the rocket made its own.
@alaefarmestatesllc
@alaefarmestatesllc Жыл бұрын
Blows my mind that they overlooked this. Or worse, thought it wouldn’t need one
@nimaside
@nimaside Жыл бұрын
@@alaefarmestatesllc Maybe it was kinda of a test since once we get to Mars, we wont be able to create one to launch off Mars to get back home. Maybe they were curious to how much damage would occur.
@andreykolkov2724
@andreykolkov2724 Жыл бұрын
I think that initially they wanted to repeat the success of Russian military missiles, with them all missiles are first thrown slightly above the ground and only at a safe distance from the launcher or submarine are the sustainer engines turned on to full capacity. Apparently something went wrong, the rocket began to roll and the control system or the operator gave full throttle almost immediately, without waiting for the rocket to move away from the launch stool to a safe distance and altitude.
@andreykolkov2724
@andreykolkov2724 Жыл бұрын
​@@alaefarmestatesllc Original, reusable rocket and disposable launch complex, awesome savings!
@FranFuentesR
@FranFuentesR Жыл бұрын
Even the bad guy in "The Incredibles" had a flame trench ,😁😁
@xplmr1
@xplmr1 Жыл бұрын
I know reusability is key to these missions but that goes for ground support infrastructure as well!
@violetzitola8385
@violetzitola8385 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. If there's this much damage after a single launch, what will it look like after ten? One hundred?
@DiahRhiaJones
@DiahRhiaJones Жыл бұрын
Its clearly not key at all. I mean what evidence do you have that spacex has any interest in re-usability after watching this other than Musk's circus show of never ending claims? If he was actually interested in that, why the hell didn't he put a single thought into protecting the launch pad with technology that is already hashed out and used extensively by organizations like NASA? I mean at every turn this whole thing looks more and more clownish.
@furriesinouterspaceUnited
@furriesinouterspaceUnited Жыл бұрын
You cant build ground infrastructure on Mars lmao
@DiahRhiaJones
@DiahRhiaJones Жыл бұрын
@@furriesinouterspaceUnited even if that claim were true, what difference would it make, dummy?
@id10t98
@id10t98 Жыл бұрын
@@furriesinouterspaceUnited Sure you can. Crushing equipment can be run remote control, all that's needed is water and a cement like substance. Robots can build it being controlled from earth. Welcome to the New World lmao
@Vartazian360
@Vartazian360 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they are trying to launch again in 2 months with this amount of damage blows me away.
@sdwone
@sdwone Жыл бұрын
The most powerful rocket in all of Human History takes off, WITHOUT adequate ground systems to mitigate against the insane forces involved...??? Seriously... What did people expect WOULD happen!? And the fact that this thing didn't just blow up on the pad right there, right then, is a HUGE win in my opinion!!!
@loooopeytunes
@loooopeytunes Жыл бұрын
No, this isn't huge win. Spacex should've waited for the ground suppression system to be constructed before launch. There are many debris that pollutes nearby protected nature areas and settlements. This definitely give bad public opinion regarding starship. And the FAA will analyze this situation for months before another test launch.
@Mongoosed
@Mongoosed Жыл бұрын
I would guess the average Joe with any common sense, and a bit of basic physics knowledge could have told them this or worse was going to be the result.
@SgmScraps
@SgmScraps Жыл бұрын
​@@Mongoosed people did tell them..... your tax dollars at work
@STho205
@STho205 Жыл бұрын
This was no win despite SX trying to spin it with their PR chicks and fanbois. Mistakes get made, but this is a proven oversight in 1962...learned 60 years ago. Even if orbital, this launch facility would show a fatal flaw. Reusable rockets but you have to demolish and rebuild the spaceport after each launch. You need a 10 sq mile dead zone for each tower. That's a commercial disaster if not rectified with a redesign.
@emgee44
@emgee44 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that launch tower is waaay to close to all that ground equipment. Not surprised in the least.
@OFFFishing
@OFFFishing Жыл бұрын
Houston were gonna need a bigger flame diverter😂
@user-jn5yh8rg5y
@user-jn5yh8rg5y Жыл бұрын
Как можно было такое запускать практически с "поверхности земли"? Не удивлюсь если бустер был повреждён ещё на моменте запуска.
@sligxcz
@sligxcz Жыл бұрын
я вообще удивлен, что камни и арматуры баки не пробили и не взорвалось все)
@S.E.C-R
@S.E.C-R Жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing, it’s like the apocalypse. I am surprised they’re allowing people to roam freely. It’s wild that this piece of concrete 4:46 was forced along the ground like that. Very impressive, this was one of the better aftermath videos I’ve seen yet. I’d like to see more of the beach and what all ended up there. You can see in other videos the giant splashes when chunks hit the water.
@usapshowroom
@usapshowroom Жыл бұрын
The dumbest comment...but this is purely yours..American...love to destroy and not build...like sheep...In fact, instead of seeing success, this person dreams of seeing a splash of water....A complete idiot
@MikeKillian
@MikeKillian Жыл бұрын
Beach debris was cleaned up before the Sheriff opened the public road, nothing but some small chunks of concrete were left
@mm-hl7gh
@mm-hl7gh Жыл бұрын
before: everbody cheering "launch launch launch" / "its going to be great" / "cant wait for launch" / "4 20 haha.. launch" after: everybody looking at damage: " why did they even launch ?" / " it was so clear this would happen" / " i knew it " / " why didnt they make a flame trench? "
@MrMichiel1983
@MrMichiel1983 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, 20/20 hindsight. But... Elon had twitted himself about it being a big risk way way back... so no.. You can only fail fast if there is a high iteration rate, which stage 0 doesn't have.
@STho205
@STho205 Жыл бұрын
In the play "The Music Man" the salesman called it The Think Method. Engineering isn't having faith. It is designing past tolerance. These are 1961 mistakes.
@philchadwick8942
@philchadwick8942 Жыл бұрын
Not having an exhaust pit to direct all of that energy away safely means the same thing will happen again. Were any of those engines damaged by flying debris? Even if there is a small chance of that happening then the whole launch tower complex needs to be redesigned. It's too close to the tanks and other surrounding infrastructure, Vehicles damaged, large rocks of concrete strewn all around, etc... It has to work flawlessly every time. The concept however, is magnificent and I love what Space X is doing.
@usapshowroom
@usapshowroom Жыл бұрын
Your whole concept was already tested and used by Russians in the USSR several times in 1969 ...so learn from them ...once upon a time, 50 years ago...
@ash-cn2oh
@ash-cn2oh Жыл бұрын
That was nice to watch in full res. Could even spot that bug running on the white destroyed camera. The wind noise might be a mic problem, but for me it added to the feeling of being there.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Жыл бұрын
Heh. It felt like the launch was taking place all over again! This was a great tour of the place BTW.
@domingessvk1484
@domingessvk1484 10 ай бұрын
IFT1 and IFT2 were like night and day in every single aspect. Big congratulations to SpaceX engineers that they managed to tame the beast!
@3dtexan890
@3dtexan890 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the tanks were way too close to the launch pad, but I am not a rocket technician.
@nemojedermann2845
@nemojedermann2845 Жыл бұрын
That's OK neither is Elon Musk😂
@isyrzy
@isyrzy Жыл бұрын
Please release the footage for the last moments for each sacrificed camera
@CompanyBusinessCards
@CompanyBusinessCards Жыл бұрын
maybe just put a thick metal sheet on top of the concrete slab to absorb the heat before it starts breaking apart the concrete
@stykytte
@stykytte Жыл бұрын
... what did they think was gonna happen? Were they hoping that if they wished hard enough some regular ass concrete would just man up and do what they've needed blast deflectors and water curtains to do for the past half century? Yo Elon I got common sense hire me lol
@rnedisc
@rnedisc Жыл бұрын
Well they do want to launch from mars surface at some point as well. So I guess this is a good start to see what challanges they'll have to and/or if they can deal with.
@Kariokat
@Kariokat Жыл бұрын
@@rnedisc launching from mars doesn’t involve the booster
@Kariokat
@Kariokat Жыл бұрын
The concrete withstood the static fire. Maybe if they didn’t lost 10% of thrust power during the first seconds, the liftoff would have happened early and maybe the launchpad would have survived
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund Жыл бұрын
They didn't use "regular ass concrete". They used very special super duper concrete which behaved very well during the test firing. The launch was harder on the concrete and they had anticipated some damage but nothing like what actually happened.
@renlam2905
@renlam2905 Жыл бұрын
You have common sense and that disqualifies you from working under the car salesman and subsidy consumer musk. Only fanboy zealots with zero critical thinking are accepted into the cult... I mean company
@llejk
@llejk Жыл бұрын
There must have been some frustrated engineer who knew the concrete would not hold, tried to warn and delay the start, but was overruled. No way everybody underestimated this??
@VW5767
@VW5767 Жыл бұрын
I think we need a bigger launch pad! No matter how you look at it, what a bad ass display of power! Cant wait for the next one.
@louismarina7225
@louismarina7225 Жыл бұрын
You might have to wait a little bit for the next show of incompetence
@XPD1
@XPD1 Жыл бұрын
Bloody impressive footage. The whole mayhem reminds me of the soviet young pioneers' amateur rocket builders' country camp. Although they would had taken the safety considerations more seriously. Way to go, way to go...
@CasperBang
@CasperBang Жыл бұрын
A rocket is a controlled explosion. But SpaceX takes to a whole new level - some would argue, not particularly controlled at all. Flame diverters definitely needed as NASA has known for 50 years.
@armedfarm3429
@armedfarm3429 Жыл бұрын
No you wouldn't call it an explosion, it's a controlled burn! No such thing as a controlled explosion. It needs to follow a burn rate; an explosion would blow it up at the pad.
@fajarsuharyanto8871
@fajarsuharyanto8871 Жыл бұрын
Explosion aka big boom FTS is to protect human earth.
@vekkuTV
@vekkuTV Жыл бұрын
I guess the engineers in charge of the launch pad have to go back to the drawing tables.. this has to be pretty much rebuilt from the ground up and improved in many ways.. I think we won’t see another launch attempt for at least another year or longer!
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund Жыл бұрын
I think they can reuse almost the entire OLM (the thing the rocket stands on), the tower was basically unscathed, some of the piping from the tank farm to the tower and OLM was damaged, some of the vertical tanks were damaged. Don't know about the horizontal tanks. Also don't know if it was only the outer cylinder for the vertical tanks -- if so, that's easy to replace. The outer cylinder doesn't need to be pressurized or to cope with the same wild temperature swings as the inner cylinder. It also doesn't need to be leak proof. The test verified that the basic design was in fact very sound. They have a fix ready soon for the concrete under the OLM: a flat double layer steel shield with water piped through it for cooling. It's been in the works for a couple of months. If that works, they are basically done with the design.
@AmonRa33
@AmonRa33 Жыл бұрын
Well it shows the design is not sound at all and if the whole didn’t blow it is just a miracle. They have to redesign the complete launchpad if they are planning to get serious. I would advise to move back to cap Canaveral. This whole place is not suited for professional launches
@OptLab
@OptLab Жыл бұрын
The goal was to test without any drainage canal massive construction to learn more and to save money. By maximizing risk with this attempt, they can now more accurately build up. When things break you learn the limits of your hardware.
@craig7350
@craig7350 Жыл бұрын
The only drawing table they have to go to is the one that was written 50 years ago.
@0cer0
@0cer0 Жыл бұрын
3 - 4 months.
@scott-qk8sm
@scott-qk8sm Жыл бұрын
No flame trench, pure madness
@PromasterHOF
@PromasterHOF Жыл бұрын
The water table at that launch site is to shallow for a flame trench, that was discussed way before the launch and during the construction of the launch facility
@thedubwhisperer2157
@thedubwhisperer2157 Жыл бұрын
Clearly Musk and his team though that NASA just did it for fun.
@Contemporary_Music
@Contemporary_Music Жыл бұрын
@@thedubwhisperer2157 This is what happens when a rich redneck is in charge...
@nuckerball1259
@nuckerball1259 Жыл бұрын
They expected the concrete to hold up based off the static fire data but clearly that didnt work out. This is a pretty major setback
@guitarlearningtoplay
@guitarlearningtoplay Жыл бұрын
Not a flame issue it’s a force issue. They thought that special type of concrete would withstand the force and they did a test ignition and it was fine. But the force is not the same lighting rockets as it is launching it. They need more steel.
@davidpetersen1
@davidpetersen1 Жыл бұрын
tbh.. I never understood why the tank farm was located so close to the launch pad. To me it would be a no brainer to build it way the f*ck away from the thing that frequently sets itself on fire.😂
@PromasterHOF
@PromasterHOF Жыл бұрын
Because the tanks are empty at launch, they only store the amount of fuel needed to to fill the tanks on the rocket.
@davidpetersen1
@davidpetersen1 Жыл бұрын
@@PromasterHOF The liability is still ridiculous. The damage caused is needless. Just my opinion.
@miroslavmilan
@miroslavmilan Жыл бұрын
Because they have to pump cryogenic liquids into the rocket {and back, every time there’s a scrub), and the amount lost due to boiloff is directly proportional to the length of the transfer tubes. They waste a lot of liquid just to chill down the tubes before they can even start filling the rocket, where it continues to boil off until liftoff. They already lose several truckloads of propellant even at this distance. It’s a game of risk assessment and compromise.
@davidpetersen1
@davidpetersen1 Жыл бұрын
@@miroslavmilan Awesome! Thanks for the concise explanation. 😁
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac Жыл бұрын
I saw the launch and the 'intended disassembly' I don't know too much about this deal. Are those fuel tanks sitting on the perimeter near that access road?
@merlepatterson
@merlepatterson Жыл бұрын
I remember saying 33 Mach diamonds from rocket engines producing over 200 tons of down-force each, blasting a concrete floor at full power is going to be destructive.
@girottos
@girottos Жыл бұрын
They're wasting time: why don't they make a HUGE hole right below it and do it like a motorcycle exhaust pipe, painting somewhere a few hundred meters from the launch?! Gotcha?!
@girottos
@girottos Жыл бұрын
You can even barbecue on the other side of the tunnel
@merlepatterson
@merlepatterson Жыл бұрын
@@girottos Yeah, , I was thinking the same thing. It shouldn't really matter if they go below the water table, they know how to dig under the English channel, I'm sure they could figure out how to go a couple hundred yards.
@MarsFKA
@MarsFKA Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the insurance claims for those cameras and vehicles read? "...significant damage" is a classic example of masterly understatement. About the only thing I've seen that looked worse was a U-Boat pen in Brest after the Dam Busters dropped a Grand Slam through the roof. The tank farm came through it with dents but no punctures, but the panels on the base of the launch tower look like something that barely survived the Battle of Jutland.
@mulderatoful
@mulderatoful Жыл бұрын
Part of me thinks Elon just wanted to see what it would do, stage 0 be damned.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Жыл бұрын
Ya never know - until ya test. He tested .. Now he knows. You got it.
@girottos
@girottos Жыл бұрын
DATS IT!
@girottos
@girottos Жыл бұрын
I mean: there's tooo many things nearby the biggest one going up... they usually don't have much things around even in common launches. And when the big one came there's A MINIVAN just sitting there like they did it in purpose hahahahh
@andreykolkov2724
@andreykolkov2724 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was just a show and they didn't plan a real launch, never really.
@ericconnor8419
@ericconnor8419 Жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking Elon Musk is smart. They could build decent launchpads in the 1950s, and we had a re-usable shuttle that worked in the 1970s.
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it had blown up on the launch pad. 😱
@donnacsuti4980
@donnacsuti4980 Жыл бұрын
A truly scary thought
@Kuifje24
@Kuifje24 Жыл бұрын
Sigh, some amateurs trying to launch a rocket without a flame trench. The pros did a better job in the sixties.
@c7ndk
@c7ndk Жыл бұрын
You are just here to trigger people 😂
@emilianoruiz7681
@emilianoruiz7681 Жыл бұрын
Guys this is uncharted territory. Its the most powerful rocket ever built, I don't think anyone thought it would cause so much distruction, they misjudged. I know SpaceX will fix the launch pad and redesign it in a better way. next launch there won't be so much damage or engines being damaged on take off.
@johnrday2023
@johnrday2023 Жыл бұрын
Those are signifigant dents in a couple of vertical tanks of the tank farm. However, the dents are in the outer casing and not the pressurisd storage vessels???
@ShoeBum123
@ShoeBum123 Жыл бұрын
That's one hell of a powerful rocket
@fajarsuharyanto8871
@fajarsuharyanto8871 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah no shit huh darn the FTS. It still can go to orbit😅
@edcurtis2572
@edcurtis2572 Жыл бұрын
What did they think was going to happen with 16 Million pounds of thrust?
@Pintuuuxo
@Pintuuuxo Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry about your cameras, guys! And I'm grateful to you for showing the result of 71MN power. SpaceX continues to be the best show provider. Lots of work to be done. Maybe July will see the next attempt. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna watch this video once again! 😃
@giraffefactory2905
@giraffefactory2905 Жыл бұрын
Unless second rocket already built its not gonna happen until next year
@eriaac
@eriaac Жыл бұрын
@@giraffefactory2905 I heard they have three more stacked?
@DiahRhiaJones
@DiahRhiaJones Жыл бұрын
@@eriaac They could have a million more stacked. That doesn't mean any of them are going to be launched any time soon, at least not legally. The FAA (which shouldn't have allowed this launch by their own regulations) issued an indefinite grounding order. But who knows. Maybe the FAA will do another 180 and continue to fail miserably at protecting the interest of the tax payers who expect them to do their jobs.
@s7ven48
@s7ven48 Жыл бұрын
​@@giraffefactory2905 ракета..., Тут нужно перепроектировать и переделывать всю площадку
@nikotakai8796
@nikotakai8796 Жыл бұрын
​@@DiahRhiaJones which regulations exactly should've prevented this launch?
@urbannpa
@urbannpa Жыл бұрын
How are they going to land that thing on Mars if it creates a crater the size of Madison Sq. garden.
@goatflieg
@goatflieg Жыл бұрын
Four words leap to mind: What were they thinking?!
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 Жыл бұрын
GO GO GO! GO!!!
@goatflieg
@goatflieg Жыл бұрын
@@mikewallace8087 You're right... that's exactly what they were thinking!
@czarkaztik1617
@czarkaztik1617 Жыл бұрын
I know look at all those poor endangered species affected ......
@ВикторНикитин-ж9с
@ВикторНикитин-ж9с Жыл бұрын
ДАаааааа! Илон Маск "бонусом" получил для себя персональный участок марсианской равнины. Всё выжжено. Всё же придётся создавать специальный 'стадион'. Как назывался пусковой стол у Королёва в документах для строителей. Что бы не дай Бог никто не догадался, что они на самом деле строили. Уж не знаю, насколько был оправдан этот подход к секретности, но термин 'стадион' остался как часть истории создания первого пуска Р7. Дорогое удовольствие. Для Р7 пусковой стол стоил столько же как и разработка всего проекта ракетоносителя Р7.
@elonyao3894
@elonyao3894 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, what a massive launch
@saggyshaggy3272
@saggyshaggy3272 Жыл бұрын
Went to Boca chica while i was visiting south padre island, there was pieces of the launch pad and rubber from the rocket laying everywhere
@jroar123
@jroar123 Жыл бұрын
There is no way SpaceX can launch again without a flame trench and a water deluge system. Both made out of 316 Stainless Steel. The tank farm needs to be moved 300 meters away from the launch stand. The legs need to be reinforced with thicker metal and a flowing water jacket built inside the legs. SpaceX should have read the 1966 report on launch stand protection.
@sophiejaysstuff4026
@sophiejaysstuff4026 Жыл бұрын
XPERT alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jroar123
@jroar123 Жыл бұрын
@@sophiejaysstuff4026 Common Sense alert.
@guvnor1971
@guvnor1971 Жыл бұрын
Whilst I love to cheer on the progress, if I was the FAA I would tell SpaceX they gotta pick up every piece of debris before they get another go. Every. Piece.
@Ipauler
@Ipauler Жыл бұрын
Is there any footage from those blown cameras ?? It ca be really interesting
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund Жыл бұрын
I have seen some of it. It's not as good as one would expect because of 1) fog and 2) lots and lots of dust from the pulverized concrete.
@andrewnorgrove6487
@andrewnorgrove6487 Жыл бұрын
I don't think people realise how pissed the FAA is with it all ! I can't see a launch from this site for a long long time Licence wise
@sophiejaysstuff4026
@sophiejaysstuff4026 Жыл бұрын
F the FAA
@bobmarino350
@bobmarino350 Жыл бұрын
Who puts a fuel tank farm right next to a launchpad? What were they thinking?
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Жыл бұрын
At 5:28 sounds like 'launch' all over again (ie. the wind noise on the mic!)
@DIESEL-ZOV
@DIESEL-ZOV Жыл бұрын
Замечательные запуски и их последствия 👏👏👏. Браво 👏👏👏👏
@slayzerdsl
@slayzerdsl Жыл бұрын
Точно агенты Путина запускают
@GahMehGrrrr
@GahMehGrrrr Жыл бұрын
when one goes boom on the pad they'll be nothing left.
@АндрейКумберлэнд
@АндрейКумберлэнд Жыл бұрын
How could they be so short-sighted not add a flame diverter. Boggles the mind.
@JC130676
@JC130676 Жыл бұрын
They chose not to use one. Starship is ultimately intended to go to Mars and they won't have a flame diverter there either.
@daviddennis5789
@daviddennis5789 Жыл бұрын
​@@JC130676 Also no flame diverter on the moon. Seems the LEM was a good design in that it used the descent stage as a launch platform for the ascent stage, I've never heard of any evidence of any ascent stage being damaged by Moon debris during launch. Hopefully the engineers are thinking about this with more urgency now.
@odysseyvoyager2354
@odysseyvoyager2354 Жыл бұрын
@@JC130676 Seems you forgot that Super Heavy has 33 raptor engines. Starship is merely the upper stage.
@nuckerball1259
@nuckerball1259 Жыл бұрын
@@JC130676 Bud they arent launcbing the booster from anywhere else than earth, and the upper stage has already been tested with minimal damage to concrete. They really messed up thinking a rocket with twice the thrust of saturn v could launch from a lunch stand smaller than whats used for falcon heavy launches
@robsoler2604
@robsoler2604 Жыл бұрын
@@JC130676 The flame diverter wouldn't be for Starship, just the booster anyways.
@Ian-tm4ej
@Ian-tm4ej Жыл бұрын
How is there no fence or anything around the launch site?
@NeoRipshaft
@NeoRipshaft Жыл бұрын
Amazing footage - really helps put things in perspective and give an appreciation for the degree of damage.
@izznice6969
@izznice6969 Жыл бұрын
Could you find a way to edit out the wind noise?
@girottos
@girottos Жыл бұрын
Now that's gonna take a while to clean!!! Can you imagine the amount of power to do such a large mess. :O Thank you for this video!
@PrathamInCloud
@PrathamInCloud Жыл бұрын
Yeah sure, 330,000 lbs of thrust. And that's just Starship, I didn't count Super Heavy which would add to the number
@dschamber7190
@dschamber7190 Жыл бұрын
@@PrathamInCloud Super Heavy was what caused all the damage, StarShip's engine would have been lit once it separated. Super Heavy pounded down 16 Million lb-ft of thrust into that pad, it's a wonder the launch tower didn't get blown over :)
@zbubby1202
@zbubby1202 Жыл бұрын
As a professional engineer, there is no playbook for something like starship. Truly minimal documentation on what, if at all, could survive the energy of that booster. My thoughts are, stage 0 survived until the internal rebar heated up enough to expand and cause spalling in the concrete. At that point the energy of the booster basically dismantled any part of the pad that experienced any spalling. At about the 10 second mark after they lit that candle.
@vampsith
@vampsith Жыл бұрын
There’s plenty of data that Elon himself mentioned. It was called the N1 and it was a terrible rocket.
@Duelky
@Duelky Жыл бұрын
It just shows the sheer power of this rocket. Insane!
@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305
@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Жыл бұрын
Sheer stupidify of space x. this launch platform was dumb from the beggining.
@albertofernandez2490
@albertofernandez2490 Жыл бұрын
It shows Musk's incompetence
@RocketPal
@RocketPal Жыл бұрын
@@albertofernandez2490 What?
@bradrothberg5863
@bradrothberg5863 Жыл бұрын
well done AS. The tanks need to be moved number 1. Lot of damage here. I would be amazed if they had another launch within 4 months.
@guvnor1971
@guvnor1971 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t think there will be another launch this year.
@aitorjara100
@aitorjara100 Жыл бұрын
@@guvnor1971 They said 1-2 months
@ernestorassi9418
@ernestorassi9418 Жыл бұрын
I doubted it will be another launch for 2023
@aitorjara100
@aitorjara100 Жыл бұрын
@@ernestorassi9418 :(
@bradrothberg5863
@bradrothberg5863 Жыл бұрын
they have to rethink/rebuild the pad. But, if anyone can do it in 1-2 months, it's Elon.
@havenrail
@havenrail Жыл бұрын
@ 6:57 - wow that left tank was seriously fubar'd
@saveurmind
@saveurmind Жыл бұрын
Wow crazy stuff..Next launch will be better.
@night897
@night897 Жыл бұрын
What are those big vertical white tanks near launch pad ?
@kaiwheeler64
@kaiwheeler64 Жыл бұрын
They were prepared only for the best case scenario.
@arditamvan1662
@arditamvan1662 Жыл бұрын
they learning by mistakes
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
Geez Louise. Don't those engineers know anything about extreme Sound Pressure Levels? What a tough lesson to learn in 2023.
@fabbaf2090
@fabbaf2090 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you ignore decades of research into launch systems, build your storage and tools next to your rocket and blast your way through safety protocols in the name of putting your feet on Mars asap. It's a spectacular rocket, but this isn't the discovery of a new elementary particle. People have done this before and the knowledge exists. Musk calls it "back to first principles" and "fast iteration", I call it "applied millennial engineering". The generation of engineers that proudly ignores everything before their birth and still expects a medal for each failure while reinventing the wheel. There is a reason why people have looked into exhaust jet diversion techniques, all the way back to Von Braun. They messed up real big here. Not so much because of the damages, but more so because they've shown they can't be trusted when left alone. I can imagine authorities will take notice and keep them at short distance next time. Even if this looks bad, had an explosion occurred at ground level, it would have been a much much bigger disaster, with radiating heat causing burns and great damage miles away, equivalent to accidents of high pressure gas pipelines.
@DesertRat332
@DesertRat332 Жыл бұрын
Well said! NASA didn't have to blow up the Saturn V on its first flight test. 13 Saturn V launches using 65 F-1 engines and not one failed. But, yes, today everybody gets a participation trophy. I just hope they don't go into the bridge building business.
@theschmonkiboy
@theschmonkiboy Жыл бұрын
now they have their moon landscape... right here on earth.
@luketoni2902
@luketoni2902 Жыл бұрын
Funny!
@Nottsboy24
@Nottsboy24 Жыл бұрын
Just Pure Awesomeness 👓🎓✨🚀🔬🔭 greetings from the UK ❇
@rtqii
@rtqii Жыл бұрын
Talk about scorched earth. Excellent photography. I can't believe you got in there to get this video.
@luizscarpa
@luizscarpa Жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian in Brazil the environmental legislation would never allow a rocket launch causing so much damage to a Coastal area
@MrKillerpics
@MrKillerpics Жыл бұрын
Barreira do Inferno Launch Center and Alcântara Space Center are not like 5 km distance from protected coral coast? Please explain
@luizscarpa
@luizscarpa Жыл бұрын
@@MrKillerpics Barreira do inferno does not launch large rockets. only sweat probes in rockets up to 9 meters high.
@modmutt
@modmutt Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you just burn forests for that sweet palm oil gold
@luizscarpa
@luizscarpa Жыл бұрын
who wants to interact with me put the full name. otherwise there is no chat
@sequoiasemperviren3163
@sequoiasemperviren3163 Жыл бұрын
Compared to NASA, it sure looks like a low-cost operation. While all the rockets are now reusable, it looks like a disposable launchpad.
@rekerok
@rekerok Жыл бұрын
Интересно какое было атмосферное давление на момент взлёта в этой зоне?
@sdfsfsdfsgfhg
@sdfsfsdfsgfhg Жыл бұрын
Атмосферное может и не сильно отличалось, а вот звуковое давление было действительно разрушительное. Тем более как я понял стартовый стол водой не заливали для гашения звуковых волн.
@sid35gb
@sid35gb Жыл бұрын
That thing isn’t taking anyone to Mars any time this decade.
@nikol9264
@nikol9264 Жыл бұрын
Это как огромный небоскрёб запускать в космос! Невероятная мощь и сила инженерной мысли. Все кто причастен к созданию этого шедевра молодцы 🎉
@Grayando1
@Grayando1 Жыл бұрын
отличный ответ... мы все братья здесь на добром корабле Земля
@rekerok
@rekerok Жыл бұрын
интересно что с твоим лицом будет когда ты узнаешь что СССР такое же испытание проводил сверх тяжёлой ракеты 50 лет назад) до сих пор 50 метровая воронка от падения и части ракеты остались на Байконуре. Даже планировка американского старшипа очень сильно напоминает советский Н-1
@ЮрийЯковлев-б3б
@ЮрийЯковлев-б3б Жыл бұрын
@@rekerok Вы думаете Маск зря приезжал в Россию? Он выпросил у русских документацию на лунную ракету. Но та ракета была неудачной. Советские инженеры пришли к выводу, что надёжность ракеты со множеством двигателей очень низкая. Её невозможно безаварийно запустить. Вот и у Маска не получилось. И не получится. Хороших инженеров в США нет.
@rekerok
@rekerok Жыл бұрын
@@ЮрийЯковлев-б3б самые казалось бы не реальные и шуточные гипотезы в основном оказываются правдой
@olegm7926
@olegm7926 Жыл бұрын
​@@rekerok ты египтянам напомни что они тысячу лет назад пирамиды построили и посмотри на их лица. Так и СССР наш ракеты испытывал, спасибо ему конечно, но почему мы досих пор как египтяне на верблюдах-калинах ездим
@id10t98
@id10t98 Жыл бұрын
The sad part, aside from basically destroying the surrounding neighborhood and a nature preserve, is the fact that for a few dollars more spent ON INFRASTRUCTURE this could have been a successful launch and orbit of the craft leading to even more data collection. But because people who count beans for a living, while having no problem taking millions per month in salaries and bonuses for themselves, they think that spending several million on a reusable, specifically designed concrete and steel launch structure to allow the proper escape of the forces generated is a waste of money, we end up with the result that we have.
@manilkumar73
@manilkumar73 Жыл бұрын
though its a huge effort on the part of SpaceX but went hopelessly bad with the launch pad design and configuration... its a huge learning for all space exploring countries... thanks for the closeup of the area... only visionary people/leader can take up such mega projects and kudos to them🙏
@sid35gb
@sid35gb Жыл бұрын
Well the visionary didn’t bother to make use of solutions available. Deflectors have been used by large rockets since the 60’s and for a rocket intended to have a 24 hour turnaround destroying the launch pad is going to add unnecessary expense.
@liamhickey359
@liamhickey359 Жыл бұрын
Huge waste of money. Musk be learnin sometin.
@arniinberlin3837
@arniinberlin3837 Жыл бұрын
Somebody did not do his/her homework. Its all built too close. No water cooling at lift off, no Lesson Learnt from previous decades of launch pads. This is a devastation zone.
@colanitower
@colanitower Жыл бұрын
The terrain around the launch pad looks like Mars Mission accomplished 😉
@thiagot.santos3761
@thiagot.santos3761 Жыл бұрын
when will you post the videos from the remote cameras?
@Lcapone
@Lcapone Жыл бұрын
честно говоря как бы и очевидно было что для такой мощи нужна пусковая площадка котлованного типа... впечатляющее зрелище
@strufian
@strufian Жыл бұрын
Он не может позволить себе такую роскошь. Во первых он на всём экономит (ведь его огромное "состояние" на 95% виртуально). А во вторых, на этом заросшем бурьяне болоте ничего капитального строить нельзя (там почти всё природная охраняемая зона). В третьих, если внимательно посмотреть на эту стартовую площадку, то станет понятно - она временная.
@vitalyzvv8691
@vitalyzvv8691 Жыл бұрын
Проекты Маска - финансовая афера, чтобы из бюджета максимум денег выкачать!
@strufian
@strufian Жыл бұрын
@@vitalyzvv8691 Думаю, отчасти, это верно. Но кроме финансового вопроса тут не маловажен вопрос тщеславия. Он очень любит внимание и всеобщее внимание. Т.ч. это банальная попытка войти в историю (что, впрочем, ему уже удалось). 🙂
@user-jn5yh8rg5y
@user-jn5yh8rg5y Жыл бұрын
​@@vitalyzvv8691 этот аферист запускает фалкон9 чуть не каждую неделю.
@TirajAdikari
@TirajAdikari Жыл бұрын
Goal: Launch Starship every 2 hrs Updated Goal: Launch starship every 6 months after repairing damages done by a launch each time.
@grignosse
@grignosse Жыл бұрын
Quite an "Environment Friendly" Launch......
@ValioN77
@ValioN77 Жыл бұрын
yall gotta chill in the coments, lmao, Starship is literally twice powerful than Saturn5 and SLS. It's a test, most of the times test do fail. They will clear everything don't worry, its not like its their first launch. Also gonna rebuild everything.
@MrMichiel1983
@MrMichiel1983 Жыл бұрын
Why? It was a bad decision and there are plenty of stakeholders that have the right to say so. They will clear everything, but this was a needless and easily preventable set-back that just slurps money. Elon had even twitted beforehand it was a big risk, and if the goal was to clear the pad, they just won the lottery. The arguments you bring to the table are great in convincing people that the project will move on relatively quickly, but that has nothing to do with it just being stupid.
@loooopeytunes
@loooopeytunes Жыл бұрын
If spacex engineers knew it's twice as powerful, then why no ground suppression system constructed before launch? NASA had already figured it out for the past 50 years, why spacex engineers didn't apply the technology? It doesn't makes sense. And all that damage and debris polluted nearby nature sanctuary and settlement. Not good at all for public image!
@travischron3175
@travischron3175 Жыл бұрын
this really is an astounding "what where they doing?"ordeal. I love SpaceX so much, but I have to think every engineer in that building had to have known this was going to happen. Who the heck signed off on this?
@dagger6467
@dagger6467 Жыл бұрын
The failure of the SpaceX launch yesterday can be directly linked to a personal decision that Elon Musk made 3 years ago to not install flame diverters on the Starship launchpad. He overruled his own engineers on this design flaw.
@richsw
@richsw Жыл бұрын
"Who the heck signed off on this?" Musk. Presumably he's either surrounded by Yes Men, who just told him what he wanted to hear, or he was warned of the consequences and decided to ignore them.
@gmikay
@gmikay Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna lose faith in humanity if someone will protest against next launch
@wibble5676
@wibble5676 Жыл бұрын
All those engineers and all that brainpower and NOBODY had the common sense or the foresight to see this coming! That's almost criminal negligence.
@jaredcravens2658
@jaredcravens2658 Жыл бұрын
How is the launch pad and surrounding areas not private property ?Where's the fence?
@wayando
@wayando Жыл бұрын
The rocket is more powerful than I had imagined ... I wonder what kind of material the platform is going to be made of, if concrete can't handle the force. Or maybe the system of tunnels to relieve the pressure like with other rocket platforms I have seen.
@EarendilTheBlessed
@EarendilTheBlessed Жыл бұрын
Like Elessar is saying. They probably went very cheap for the construction of the pad. But they also probably miss estimated the loads coming from the engines (blast loads). They most likely thought the concrete would just break and stay there, because it's quite a big failure to have pieces of concrete flying around at high speeds. They should have spent a couple thousand more to have a much better designed pad than now having to replace bunch of gas countainer around. I'm not familiar with blast loading, but I assume it's more about wave transmission and shapes of the concrete pad and mass.
@bobmarino350
@bobmarino350 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that rocket will fly again for about a year. They have a lot of cleanup and reconstruction to do. Somebody messed it up.
@RockDodger
@RockDodger Жыл бұрын
Why would the wealthiest and supposedly cleverest man in the world launch the most powerful rocket without a flame diverter?
@DesertRat332
@DesertRat332 Жыл бұрын
Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
@vcalesco
@vcalesco Жыл бұрын
you could have removed the wind noise, so annoying
@sebastienfoulc8600
@sebastienfoulc8600 Жыл бұрын
Elon should have made the laugh pad better and postpone the launch . Now he will probably have to wait 6 months to get new FAA authorization and it will also likely take at least 6 months to setup / build a proper launch facility with flame divertes, high water pressure cooling…etc . Not sure this « early » launch was a good idea after all. Let’s see what’s the story tells us in a year from now .
@diraziz396
@diraziz396 Жыл бұрын
0:45 - That is a Clean Pad. like the Renders Show.. Thank you
@jamesp13152
@jamesp13152 Жыл бұрын
Well, some of those landscape shots look like Mars. Makes sense. 😄Honestly, best aftermath vid I've seen. Looks like back to the drawing board, that didn't go well.
@robw6143
@robw6143 Жыл бұрын
why would u put cameras that close???
@ASiraev
@ASiraev Жыл бұрын
Маск абсолютный делитант во всём. Вывозит за счёт большого количества попыток. Та же самая история, что и с Томасом Эдисоном )
@василийалибабаевич-н4т
@василийалибабаевич-н4т Жыл бұрын
он не дилетант, он мошенник! такое ощущение что они строят к примеру стартовый стол, вообще не опираясь ни на какие расчеты! как и сами "ракеты" таким образом достичь результата у него получится примерно никогда
@sligxcz
@sligxcz Жыл бұрын
Жалко камеры и технику😢
@василийалибабаевич-н4т
@василийалибабаевич-н4т Жыл бұрын
@@sligxcz маск оплатит
@oscr_zen
@oscr_zen Жыл бұрын
98% of the cinematographers probably laughing at those 2% who thought its a great idea to leave high end cameras so close to the rocket first launch with the nastiest 33 raptor engines ever created, with no thrust escape path
@MikeKillian
@MikeKillian Жыл бұрын
No they envy us bcuz of our access to cover history and we’ve been doing it for years. We know the risks & it is worth the footage & images captured, it’s part of the story. Rockets damage our stuff often, this was just the most viral.
@tonywood3660
@tonywood3660 Жыл бұрын
Good to see they have totally trash what was a nature reserve, way to go Elon...
@robertweekley5926
@robertweekley5926 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! As if no City did the Same Thing! 🙄
@MrMichiel1983
@MrMichiel1983 Жыл бұрын
@@robertweekley5926 Sure, but it was easily preventable, which makes it stupid. Have a smiley day yourself.
@kevinwillard4835
@kevinwillard4835 Жыл бұрын
Well , i see no sound suppression system which is highly need for large rockets, even the space shuttle had a water suppression system for the boom of taking off .if you dont use one i bet this is what its like , one big explosion
@fritzeder1847
@fritzeder1847 Жыл бұрын
Lets go off shore! What would not seen in tests before was the "crack of a whip" - effect wich causes enormous pressure waves cracking down from the exhaust after it already took off. This "crack of a whip" effect hitting ground probably comes after 10m in flight and getting stronger till maybe 100m in flight SpaceX, keep on pushing! You are the only hope for keeping up humanity 💪💪💪
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Жыл бұрын
re: " You are the only hope for keeping up humanity" Theologians contemplating entering the chat ...
@arielwollinger
@arielwollinger Жыл бұрын
I always thought that launch pad was pathetic, the distance to the fuel farm, outrageous and the deluge system missing was stupid.
@Fummy007
@Fummy007 Жыл бұрын
Tower still standing, Mount still standing. A success. They will just fill in the hole with more rebar and concrete. Will take a few months.
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau Жыл бұрын
It's most likely, you will see a Saturn V like water Deluge system to absorb all that rocket plum
@MrMichiel1983
@MrMichiel1983 Жыл бұрын
Tower damaged, mount damaged, tank farm damaged, surrounding nature damaged, concrete blown to adjacent property, FAA license in danger, avoidable additional costs... Great success... for sure... Maybe a setback of just a few months, but it could have easily been avoided. Elon himself twitted it was a big risk, so if they wanted to clear the pad, they just won the lottery. That's a great feeling for investors that they are playing a lottery.
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund Жыл бұрын
@@mbukukanyau There is a water sprinkler system but it is not as "splashy" as the Saturn V or Space Shuttle systems. The water jets are fired horizontally from the inside of the top of the launch mount towards a point slightly off center so they don't all impinge in the middle. Instead, there are as many impingement points as there are water jets. SpaceX has released video of a test of that system filled from underneath. What they will add is a replacement for the concrete surface underneath. It will be two flat metal sheets with channels in between for water cooling.
@ankitpatel80041
@ankitpatel80041 Жыл бұрын
Nice comment 👍
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau Жыл бұрын
@Peter Lund Those things are nothing, compare to the Saturn V, Shuttle, SLS systems. The Deluge system is an ocean in less than a minute. Produces rain shortly after launch, it's that much water.
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