AMG says V8 is BEST as four-cylinder hybrid SALES STALL

Mercedes-Benz has decided that four-cylinders are not as good as eight-cylinders, which is odd, becuase we knew that all along. So what's this about?
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[@decayintheuk]

ferrari & aston martin just announce their new V12 with 800+hp, bravo 👋

[@cornishhh]

Pointless.

[@robsmith1a]

​​@@cornishhhI sat outside a coffee shop in Cobham last year watching Chelsea players drive by at 20 mph in their Ferraris. No point at all in the South East of England in having any power at all unfortunately.

[@lloyd.8272]

@@cornishhhunfortunately not everyone is as boring as you!

[@steelearmstrong9616]

@@robsmith1a It’s all about Status. Men feeling insecure

[@cornishhh]

@@lloyd.8272 You'd never get a car like that out of second gear without breaking the speed limit. I like useable power coupled with something fun to drive. An original Mini Cooper would do me.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

Let me know if anyone is surprised AMG sales have slowed since they stopped making V8 engines… I drive an SL63 and the best thing about it is the noise it makes 😂😂😂

[@simonelliott5956]

Not in the least bit surprised!

[@stuartodell2828]

And the worst bit is the running costs no doubt.

[@BobBenz55]

SL63 beast 👌 I have the SL600 bi turbo V12. Only issue is can’t put the power down 😂

[@gregorygant4242]

@@BobBenz55 It does but it doesn't instantly like with a bang but gradually that's why they are so smooth. But when the power does get down it's like continuous right it keeps on going ?

[@DaleSteel]

Mercedes realise they screwed up. They went WOKE and went BROKE

[@user-go2kw5lr2b]

As with all companies that have gone woke, Disney, bud light, etc. They are told by Blackrock what to do.

[@julosx]

@@user-go2kw5lr2b Black Rock and… Mac Kinsey. Back in 1987, the then boss of Mercedes said that "nothing in Germany can be done without Mc Kinsey giving the nod".

[@user-uq4pn7st2h]

Toyota 240billion debt,,ford 151 billion in debt..gm 122 billion in debt..Mercedes 109 billion in debt...vw 210 billion in debt... These car companies where in trouble before any new competition from electric cars like tesla.for them trying to make a eV that is profitable is to expensive tesla and Chinese brands have a 10 year lead... Wondering which legacy will go bust first

[@ghostinthemachine76]

Everything woke turns to shit.

[@DaleSteel]

@@user-uq4pn7st2h is BMW in debt?

[@Engineersoldinterstingstuff]

Personally I would not even consider a BMW without an inline 6.

[@peekaboo1575]

Unless it's a v8, v10 or v12! :^)

[@Engineersoldinterstingstuff]

​@@peekaboo1575 BMW builds the worlds finest inline 6 engines. Not sure you can say that about the V8s and V10s unless you like having your car half of the time at the workshop. Americans can bulid the V8s. V12 engines are something special though...😮

[@gottliebdee263]

@@Engineersoldinterstingstuff Sure you're not harking back to yester years?

[@Engineersoldinterstingstuff]

@@gottliebdee263 I do not know about any V10 other than the E60 M5 and that was catastrophic, big end bearing failures, not mentioning the gearbox in these...

[@hittitecharioteer]

BMW's inline six 3 litre diesel is actually quite astonishing for its performance. In a 2016 430d I get a reliable 63mpg without driving it like a butterfly with sore feet. Several times I've had in excess of 70mpg.

[@BillyRiff-RAF206]

I will continue to run my 200tdi defender and Volvo 850 until I'm dead or they make them illegal and sieze them from me. I am not driving an electric car.

[@thejamesieboy]

If they tried tae seize any of my cars, and I have a few including Avenger's, Mk2 Cavalier's, Daimler X308 and Series 3 Landy with 200tdi, all h**l would be let loose.

[@PiOfficial]

If they started seizing petrol cars how would you fill up?

[@thejamesieboy]

There is a difference between them seizing cars, and me filling up. Plus they have already started developing synthetic petrol.

[@sisyphussapprentice8976]

Nothing makes my day so much as trundling along in my TD5 with an EV behind me without a cat in hells chance of overtaking. Mind you the same applies to the "go faster" types in their Audis. 😄

[@peterrichardson9248]

You will be saving the planet far more by doing that.

[@gc12gladiator]

560 SEC AMG. My father used to own one. Kept it for 15 years and used it everyday. What a car that was!

[@Young_TanaMera]

Wow man lucky him that's an awesome car

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Mercedes-Benz could do with some new designers at the same time and kill off lots of pointless models.

[@jaromor8808]

this

[@davidclemens1578]

I don't care for the Mercedes with the aerodynamic front ends. Bring back the front ends like that black one that Jeff showed. Absolutely beautiful.

[@OM617a]

@@davidclemens1578 The C126 SEC, a beautiful car. Also has better aerodynamics than the brutal front would suggest. I have a couple Mercedes of this era and they feel like they are carved from granite.

[@myface694]

EVs = 💩 Boxes on wheels

[@johnnydoe1984]

Your so so wrong !! EV = 🔥☣️🔥

[@petea7323]

They have become a washing machine on wheels. Electric motor and battery 🥱

[@nerdbikes3841]

Well, it seems the new $50k washing machine can blow the doors 0-60 off a $300k ICE super car these days.

[@petea7323]

@@nerdbikes3841 yeah cool 0-60. Just what I buy a car for, to have the best 0-60 time. Really helpful on a long journey.

[@johnnydoe1984]

@nerdbikes3841 Yep , at least for 10 minutes , then the batteries drain and the motor overloads ! The driver will end up WALKING back to the pits 😂🤣😅😂🤣😁

[@raymondreiff8170]

Wow Mercedes using it's brains 🇺🇸👍

[@timothyabraham13]

CL 65 AMG...I drive from the UK to Monaco a lot so love the lazy torque... it's a V12, very relaxing.

[@rumpoh8039]

BOND, AND YOUGET A SHINYNOSE EVERY EVENING.

[@gregorygant4242]

That must be a cool car. That V12 puts out the power smoothly and gradually right not all of a sudden and with a bang ? That's what makes a V12 so awesome . If only those petrol prices could go down somewhat I would get one of those things right away !

[@BobBenz55]

Love the M275 engine. Got the SL600. Only issue is it struggles to put the power down 😂

[@timhicks2154]

Ford do the same….sticking ‘ST Line’ on any old shite.

[@chrishart8548]

I love a ST line 1.0 engine. Drum rear brakes . Window winders in the back. Not even an auto dipping rear view mirror.

[@kay8d]

Yup, it dilutes the prestige of the badge. And I have no respect for the clowns who buy an ST Line Ford, an S line Audi, R line VW and so on. Either get the real thing or get lost you cheapskate tiny engine with no power but a bit of body-kit posers

[@sbrader97]

That's just the new naming for what used to be zetec-s and all the other brands have been doing it amg line s-line r-line etc this is full blown amg having 4 cylinder its fine for the a45s but not in a c63 etc even if its quicker than the v8 the sound isn't close to a v8

[@stevenkillington5041]

I've got a24 puma 155 manual best go-kart I've ever had wicked quick off the line

[@stevenkillington5041]

Stline gives you sporty suspension and quicker controls and a nice look

[@ericrawson2909]

My son has a C63 AMG. Great car. I love V8s. Drove four pot company cars then a six pot. At last, retired, I got a five litre supercharged V8 after a lifetime of working and waiting. Not surprised manufacturers are doing U turns on EVs. Not many enthusiasts for them.

[@Young_TanaMera]

Wow i also have a w204 c63 its a really great car

[@koliberk]

I stuck with my 2019 S63, with almighty M177 and stage 1 788bhp/1045Nm There is nothing better than hearing this monstrous V8 waking up in the morning, burning E5 with tons of air giving me the most beautiful music 😉👍 Of course making the climate warmer, its too cold in bonkers Britain 🤣

[@estern001]

Our 6.2 liter Chevy LS will fit nicely in your Volvo. Make a monster!

[@mauricestanley5763]

I used to put a tiger in my tank thanks to ESSO

[@thejamesieboy]

My dad used to put a tiger in peoples tanks when he managed a series of ESSO garages in the early 70's

[@m3photo726]

Tigers were too big for my tank so I used to put winged insect urine in …

[@barrywhite5899]

My dad too, we collected the tokens for the glasses and silver tokens!!

[@BobBenz55]

Good!!!! V8 should be minimum. I have the V12 SL600 bi-turbo. Love it 👍🏼👌

[@rampageashton]

I had a GLC 63 amg New in 2019. It was fabulous. I changed it for a BMW X3M as I was not buying a 2L. Not a chance. I welcome this.

[@Vote.ReformUK]

I remember when my mum's partner got a hybrid Range Rover to test and it was the world of both worlds. When you haven't got electric (which was like 20 miles of range) you just had a tiny engine with no power...... So he ditched it and went for a Diesel again and the garage said their hybrids were not selling lol.

[@OM617a]

It's not only that, when you are on the highway the battery is no use so you are lugging around a huge toxic anchor which further reduces mpg. They are a terrible idea.

[@michaelmontgomery6388]

Geoff, It wasn't a 6.3 it was a 6.2👍

[@POVwithRC]

Oh whatever.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

It's labelled 6.3.

[@C_J__]

But was actually 6.2

[@koliberk]

More precisely 6,208 cc, they name it after Red Pig SEL 63, where they change size from 6330cc to 6835cc 😅

[@Gamertrix117]

Fun fact the old Amg 63 engines were 6.2 v8’s not 6.3 😂

[@magentadawn5660]

And the C55 was actually 5.4 litre 😮

[@jstdrv]

@@magentadawn5660 and the 560 SE engines were just over 5,5

[@OM617a]

And the 190 was anything from 1.8 to 2.6.

[@RealMakarov]

@@OM617a 190Es only had 4cyls

[@OM617a]

@@RealMakarov There was a six cylinder engine. The theme of the thread is model numbers not matching engine size, that was the reason for my comment.

[@peekaboo1575]

Fantastic news, Geoff! Down with the little engines.

[@Leonardo555ZZZZ]

C63 AMG V8 has been a top seller , MB needs to continue the V8 in the C class. My 20 year old CLK55 AMG is a fantastic machine.

[@kevinmott6205]

I do have to say this blog has made my day. Combustion engines bigger and better. Im hugging myself with joy at the news and anticipation. We need to get ready to fight the idiots who legislate against this stuff, in an insane unproven policy of net zero. Khant will no doubt have his doctored figures at hand on how single handedly he has improved London air quality. Cars running slower standing longer cannot see that.

[@BionicRusty]

Their biggest problem? They sound like a standard rep wagon. Well done Mercedes. 👏👏👏 Makes me even prouder of my S212 2015, Wagon. ❤️

[@gregdodd4086]

W204 C63 was mine, Geoff. The noise off the trees of the 6.2 NA V8 going past Alcester each day on my commute makes we want another. It's the noise and connection that people want, not the massive power where you can not use it as everyone seems happy driving at 40 mph everywhere, irrespective if it is a 30 or 60 mph area.

[@RichardASK]

"everyone seems happy driving at 40 mph everywhere". Perhaps you ought to leave Warwickshire and come over to Worcestershire, because very few are like that here or over the frontier into Herefordshire.

[@EvilGav]

BTW the "proper" AMG cars are the pre 2000 ones, before AMG just became a department in Mercedes. But Mercedes have just done the same as what BMW did - realised they could sell an AMG spec or an M spec as an options bundle to hike the price. If you really want a performance Mercedes, though, you should buy a Brabus.

[@OM617a]

Or a pre merger AMG, like the hammer. Unfortunately these are now only for millionaires.

[@goansunborn]

What's the word on leasing companies in the UK? A rental / leasing company here in Norway just went bankrupt. Reasons were global economy and the price of used cars. Nearly all of thier cars were EVs and a few hybrids. To me this was not surprising.

[@OM617a]

Prices being slashed, there is a channel devoted to it on yt. Imagine leasing a car for £1100 per month over 2/3 years, then six months later it is £450 per month! Hopefully ours will go the same way. I am pretty sure a big online car sales company just went down the toilet.

[@gregorygant4242]

But I thought Norway loved EV's and the govt. gave people rebates to make them cheaper ? What the f!ck went wrong then ? Just asking.

[@goansunborn]

@@gregorygant4242 Reality is happening

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

@gregorygant4242 people have brains and know that EV's generally don't work for 90% of people. The ONLY people having them are businesses because of tax breaks and taxi drivers being forced.

[@jstdrv]

I had the car in the thumbnail for 4 years, 560 SEC widebody, black on black with a great soundtrack

[@GeoffBuysCars]

When was that…? They were / are epic cars

[@jstdrv]

@@GeoffBuysCars sold it 2 years ago. The widebody panels were fiberglass but the front, rear, skirts, spoiler and steering wheel were the real deal. Got a couple of videos of it on my channel. It had a murky history and I'm guessing it was built from a crashed real one. I built it properly and it was gorgeous. I'm somewhat of a TVR guy (they're rare here in Norway) I now have a LHD Griff 5 liter nearing completion and a 4.5 Cerbera that I'm going over to Shropshire to pick up in june :)

[@SimonWallwork]

I have a Tiger, and an Audi S8. Both are V8s- and hard to beat. I no longer do 30,000 miles pa- and don't mind buying the petrol one bit.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Same. Recently bought an Xc90 v8. It adds another level of enjoyment to driving. You cannot beat the torque and sound. I have no issue with the MPG either.

[@halo091]

not long got a Gs430 mk2, if ever there was a crucial time to invest in a v8, that time is now

[@OM617a]

@@halo091 Lexus are great cars, the JDM versions are getting very collectable too.

[@markhomer6357]

Amg clk 63 black series , the vid that Clarkson did still one of my faves😍👍

[@colinclugston4757]

My son has a c63 AMG 4.0Litre v8 , it’s a great sound track . He thought his bmw M4 was a car till he got this .

[@Cuzzazbuzz]

I bought the last of the naturally aspirated V8’s and it was incredible when you fired it up. I went to look at another only to find it has a poxy little engine and battery! WTAF… You forgot why we buy these things. It’s the feel and theatre, not fuel economy FFS.

[@julosx]

These days Mercedes also does a 3 liter 6 in-line, BMW like. But I'd like to see a model with the naturally aspired version of it, why not in the class C ?

[@JelloTypeR]

Indeed. I love my w205 C63 with its 4.0 Twin turbo V8. My son calls it the growler which makes me laugh. Thank god he can’t spell growler into google. I’d have to sell my C63 for something less vaginistic or else his mother would find out.

[@OM617a]

@@julosx Are you sure? Mercedes used to make great inline sixes but they dropped them in favor of V6's.

[@fredfred2363]

Couldn't have put it better myself. It is the theatre, feel and experience. A sense of freedom driving through the wildrness. Oh gawd. Classic, tv car ad stuff.

[@monk3yboy69]

@OM617a The new CLE53 has a 3.0 inline 6 cylinder

[@superloopy24v]

The W124, E60 AMG variant of the Porsche chassis redesign, and Porsche assembled 500E

[@t28mcd]

I drive a 2014 W204 C63 AMG, best car I've ever had. Driven 4 years with no repairs necessary. Get an average of 20mpg which is fine as I don't do a lot of miles. And just for the record it's not quite 6.3litres, only 6,208CC but that's big enough for me.

[@davidambiguous4650]

I can see a few manufacturers pulling out of uk dealerships

[@annebeignatborde1832]

Why?

[@stevenjones916]

Hopefully BYD because they aren't selling.

[@rampageashton]

I want noise. Speed with no noise is just speed. And it gets boring. That why EVs are boring as shit.

[@thejamesieboy]

I once watched F1 but the tv volume seamed to be on the blink, I thought this is actually boring with no engine noise. Then a commentator spoke and I found out it was something called Formula E, needles to say I changed channel.

[@fredfred2363]

Yeah, just like in a movie scene where through a beautiful treed landscape you can hear a V8 approaching, echoing through a valley. Pure art.

[@AssHungryDecepticon]

Honestly the loudest EV I've ever heard in person is the Taycan, its motors actually sounds like its got a bit more boom unlike most of the washing machines on wheels of its vehicle type. But yea engine variety is always better than no variety

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

I love noise

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

That and speed for 10 miles before coming to a halt is fkn pointless

[@mariusjacobsenlixomania]

one of my fave episodes so far this year, as it contains talking about big V8's

[@OM617a]

A list of spectacular cars, particularly the rote sau. I am glad Mercedes are getting back to their roots.

[@Elsie-uy2kl]

There should be a rollback of all EVs and let them compete with petrol and diesel and let customers decide. I think German car-makers are starting to fight back against the EV rubbish. 👍

[@bentullett6068]

I can understand putting the hybrid idea in the A class AMG hatchback (which isn't a Renault Megane underneath at all). But the rear drive models do deserve the 6 cylinder and V8 options.

[@ELXABER]

Simple to predict; V8 will sell like hotcakes, V6 will do decent, and the PHEV pffft will tank.

[@hickipedia]

As someone with an S210 E55 - I wholeheartedly agree! 😎

[@MichaelMyers5678]

I had a BMW 750iL, and the torque that thing produced was amazing. I loved the sound of the V12. You can’t just replace that with batteries. Good on AMG for sticking with tradition. 👍🏻❤️

[@lifeleisuresa1229]

Some very very good news. Long live the petrol engine!

[@scottcook8443]

Hi Geoff I'm still over the moon with my 20 year old mercedes e55 amg supercharged estate.

[@markbray2988]

Geoff mate, call yourself a Volvo Man! You keep overlooking one of the finest N/A V8's ever conceived... The B8444S whilst not being the fastest V8 ever made it's still technically a work of art conceived by Volvo and built by Yamaha while under the PAG umbrella. It has to be the most underrated, glorious V8 ever produced! It also sounds bloody amazing!

[@julosx]

I'd love to drive one of these ! Too bad they were so little produced.

[@markbray2988]

@@Syntheticus834 I don't think 20 mpg is all that bad from a 4.4l V8 315 bhp in a two and a quarter tonne tank! I can get almost 30 mpg on the highway! Which is easy to stomach.

[@robertnightingale4101]

Always loved the Merc used in your thumb nail.

[@OM617a]

C126 SEC, a legend.

[@15DEAN1995]

After the big cough of 2020 there was a period where a 4.0 V8 c63 was for sale for months, the price eventually dropped as low as £21,000 and eventually sold. I thought wow I might be able to afford one in a few years time, then the c63 hybrid was announced. The cars I'd been watching sold rapidly at the lower prices and higher mile cars were now commanding much more money. The price of decent shape cars increased around £10k in no time. People want the V8 versions clearly, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy the hybrids are slow to sell.

[@rumpoh8039]

HOW LONG CAN A TIINY ENGINE DELIVER 300 HP OR MORE-- NOT LONG

[@chrishart8548]

Long enough for the warranty is long enough

[@chatwithaninja]

I had a C6 three with the 6.2 in it. Glorious car! Next car was a CLS 63 with the 5.5 biturbo. Also a great car but I went to large and luxury. Next? AMGGTC convertible as I sail into the youth of my senior years

[@AlexandraK1]

Thanks for the entertainment, Geoff! You always make me laugh.

[@alansmith4974]

Talking about numbers equating to engine size imagine my disappointment when i stumbled on the Audi A1 3.5

[@billyskoda6839]

I was at the Nordschleife in late March and there was a shakedown running for the NLS series. Porsche were running, as were Fiat with their 488s, but the AMG V8 GT3s were filling the concourse with a brilliant V8 rumble each time they passed the main straight on the GP Strecke. I wouldn't ever buy a Mercedes, but those V8 GTs do sound wonderful

[@kay8d]

Don't care how much power a hybrid 4 makes, it will never sound as good and never be as cool as a V8. Also the 4.0 V8 turbos will never have the charm or value of the 6.2 L NA V8s as they are starting to become collectible

[@MrLg55555]

Both are a step behind the 5.5 V8TT in my CLS Shooting Brake AMG 63S... That is a serious engine with an awesome soundtrack 😉

[@paganpriestess979]

Not and AMG but have always loved and driven several (having worked in the motor industry in the past for over 20 years) the Mercedes 190E Cosworth. Awesome car.

[@ziploc2000]

I met a couple last night who drive a Honda Insight, 20 years old hybrid, and they're just about to replace the battery for about $3,400. Battery lasts 150,000 miles. They get 50mpg city/70mph freeway.

[@OM617a]

I would expect better economy from a car like that, I have a 1990's Toyota with a 2.5TT i6 that can do almost 50mpg highway.

[@user-yi7hr3tk6i]

AMGenius, I drive a VW Passat estate 13 plate, owned it from new, 177bhp, DSG Auto box. Brilliant.

[@wainerollins2587]

Thank goodness. It was an absolutely crackpot idea to replace a V8 with a 4 cylinder PHEV. There's a market for performance cars with 4 cylinder hybrid engines, just not in an AMG badged 63 car.

[@malcolmtucker7046]

On a different subject, a vauxhall dealership in Bristol has had a major car fire, spokesperson said they suspect EV fire

[@OM617a]

We had better not talk about that. Nothing to see here people, ev's are safe and effective.

[@mattocean9121]

Hey G, oh yes, I had the S350 and it was a compromise, my S500 V8 was much better, but it does 17 mpg so your choice.

[@tonyw.6813]

While watching this, I suddenly thought of a film, starring Lee Majors. It was a film from 1981, called the “The Last Chase”. If you haven’t seen it, you should try and find it. It’s a bit cheesy, but very apt for today.

[@paulriggers1558]

do we want a car that goes really really fast to sit in rush hour traffic, err no do we want a car that sounds really really good in the traffic, hell yes... we have the money - we decide what we want to spend it on...

[@OM617a]

Rattle the ev drivers in the queue, set off alarms in the multi storey car park 😎

[@teatimetel174]

i just bought a 1977 Mercedes 450 sl today..needs a lot of work but its a proper merc.

[@rathodstreaming88]

'They decided' being the key phrase for failure and not listening to the customers. I'll stick to my C63 S204 estate, an absolute hooligan family transporter from when AMG were amazing. I don't think my kids would say 'daddy do vroom' if i had the new four pot!

[@johnpassey3176]

I was driven in the C63 V8 at Mercedes world by a psychopath , I am just about to start giggling, what a car

[@focusrssteve]

My favourite AMG isn't actually an AMG! it's the very early 90's touring car 190e EVO 2, if ever I have a spare £250,000 I would try and buy one, but I doubt that'll ever happen.

[@OM617a]

You could rescue an unloved 190E/D, body kit it and put a powerful engine in it. I know it ain't the same but could be done for £20-30k.

[@marbesky]

a very underrated car is lexus gs450h its a hybrid with a 3.5l v6 and a total combined power of around 400hp that can do 45miles a gallon

[@odin5188]

It's actually 341bhp combined. I have a gs460 v8 which has 342bhp which is the top of range. The gs450h is quicker of the mark though

[@mrg-ghx8052]

I drove a GSF for 1 week 😍

[@marbesky]

@@odin5188 I can assure you gs450h has minimum 400hp especially when battery is full that thing moves with 2 electric motors helping with traction along with the v6

[@odin5188]

@@marbesky Mate, it doesn't. Sorry to inform you. If you want to believe that go ahead but in the real world it will be as I stated. You can even check video only of gs450h vs gs460. It takes the 460 a shorter time to get to 250kph. No mk3 GS has 400bhp. The mk4 GSF has 471bhp. All the information is out there, you can't just make up numbers

[@OM617a]

For real power go for the jdm version of the gs300 mk1, the jzs147.

[@cruisingwithnarrowboatiris6161]

I had an A200 AMG recently….hated it…at slow speed it didn’t handle at all well….at speed…wonderful….got rid of it for a GTi Polo which is awesome…well done Mercedes I wouldn’t buy a hybrid.

[@philip697]

I have an e class 350d, love the v6 and love the car. 45mpg

[@halo091]

it would be even better without the turbos, a good v8 has no need for turbos, it kills the sound and adds pointless wear to a glorious creation, Supercharger ftw though

[@AnonymousAndy2]

AMG, ST, M, GR etc should all be reserved for actual performance cars. The badges now mean less as they tend to just be a trim spec now!

[@geirarnesen6531]

All AMG 63`s had originally in fact a 6.2 litre naturally aspired V8`s - Go figure AMG logic! Later they reduced displacement but added turbos for ever increased BHP but kept the label - even weirder.

[@fenrirslip]

I honestly have no problem with the 63 models going hybrid. Sure, the hybrid components add some complications but just as long as there's a V8 under the hood, I'm content.

[@brianiswrong]

Am I alone ? I like it when Geoff gets into car based gentle rant AND I drive an EV (2024 hyundai kona n line s as you asked)😊

[@frankmagana1408]

I was hoping the 4 cylinder hybrid stuff would stay….(in hopes that my current V8 AMG would skyrocket in value)

[@RealMakarov]

2:54 from my understanding they're trying to revive the CL which is the predecessor of Sclass coupe

[@SatanailHWBG]

My dream Merc would be CLK DTM. Will drive my S205 for few more years and then jump to S214. When they announced this hybrid setup for the W206 C63 I was lime "Huh!? This won't end well." And I believe they also back-tracked on their full-electric plans for 2030.

[@alonzohalltheallstaradviso9060]

CLE is the replacement for the C class and E class coupes. They combined the 2

[@hamshackleton]

AMG. One of the guys down at our model flying club had one. I don't know the model number, but it was a cabriolet version of the one they use for motor racing. Monster engine, and when he started it, it sounded like a vanload of Harley Davidsons ticking over.

[@theworldaccordingtochris4370]

Bring back the big V12s too 👍

[@greydog1104]

The engines made after the M156 6.2L became too complicated with too many parts and additional complexity for reducing emissions. There will never be another 6.2L because of regulations. BTW an AMG 6.2 , a tuned race version of the 20 year old M156 engine just made the fastest lap ever at Bathurst racetrack.

[@DaleSteel]

Hey Geoff. They actually had a 6.2 not a 6.3 😮

[@lezbarker2673]

I binged watched Father Ted a few weeks ago with two on my kids they are just old enough finally to understand the comedy like Jamee is 19 and Sky is 17 showed them an episode a few years back and they didn’t get it. Last week though they were laughing so much. They loved the one where father Ted got the car for the church raffle and I was laughing at my children laughing at the show I’ve never been so happy. So proud they can get jokes we could when we were 10. I love them more than life kids are the greatest thing in the world I feel sorry for those that don’t have them what a sad life they will have.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Music to my ears. Just like a v8. It's all falling apart. Grift failing.

[@johnparry937]

Insurance and the price of fuel is the current problem!

[@AnthonyMunyi]

This means a V8 C63 might be on the horizon... Fingers crossed for the face lift update!

[@ToivonenDeltaS4]

It was incredibly arrogant for some of these OEM’s to think they can disregard the reasons why actual car people buy cars. It’s the same as sports series who chase the casual fan over the enthusiast. They should have seen it coming when Porsche changed the 2.5T flat four 718GTS back to a 4.0 N/A flat 6. In the end, the market will decide and people will buy what they WANT to buy, not what’s pushed on them.

[@lordt7945]

I couldn’t agree more I worked for Mercedes for 15 years and now I can’t tell what model are out there now trying to be all things to all men and they have lost their way as you said everything thing has an AMG badge they have devalued their product shame really but there you are

[@TransparentMediaTruth]

In a few short yrs time when looking back it'll seem like it didn't take manufacturers all that long to begin scaling back > those who didn't overextend into ev tech are surely beginning to breath a bit easier

[@claesund]

Really Great News!

[@strawman3059]

Their taking the 'soul' out of driving 🚗💥

[@Luddite1]

Was talking to a bloke the other day while we sorted the a/c in his 5.3 mustang and he was sayin on a run he gets 33mpg which is perfectly respectable!

[@muttsnuts8429]

I have a c55 and it has an X pipe and decat so sounds like the god of thunder.

[@nojabs999]

Best news I've heard since the release of those shitty hybrids.

[@scottcook8443]

It does not help quality with new mercedes when it got into bed with nissan and renault 😢

[@TheBlibo]

Hi I have a c class diesel estate with amg trim pack what the he'll dose that mean It would make more sense to stick a unimog badge on a. g wagon

[@alonzohalltheallstaradviso9060]

My dream is a 2006 to 2008 E55 though the E63 looks nice but the E55 is sought after

[@user-xq4zd4tp7w]

Put a bed in the back of the v70 like top rear did for your trip to Benidorm.

[@EternalRUSHfan63]

My favourite mercedes is a 1.8 gti cabriolet golf mk 1 !! But I have a soft spot for Renault 8s !!

[@OM617a]

Fwd 💀

[@rolandoruiz7710]

I couldn’t agree more with your assessment. I laughed for days when I saw what they did with my future dream car, the C63. They softened it up and took away its masculinity by wrapping it up in a Sunday Dress. A disgrace, if you will. It used to be my dream car until they tried turning it into an EV. Like you, I couldn’t care less about the gas mileage. Why don’t they let us worry about that. Batteries belong in my missus’ toys, not an automobile, lol!

[@stevenwatson3963]

"Rampant Battery", lol

[@robertkubrick3738]

I was car shopping and the better performance models above the 2.0L were 1.5L or 1.6L turbocharged engines. NO NO NO! Turbocharge the standard engine, maybe a smaller turbo for longevity not a smaller displacement that wears out twice as fast.