AMMUNITION REVIEW: CCI 22 Quiet vs CCI Short. Which is better?

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[@hmoobva3581]

Best comparison I've seen with these two good job

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

Pretty good little review. CCI is doing a great job of offering so many different types of rimfire ammunition. I think they are makers of the widest variety, especially in .22 rimfire. We are fortunate to have such a fine rimfire manufacturer here in the US. BTW, that little Remington 510 looks to be in great shape. I love old Remingtons, and Winchesters.

[@markpalsgrove9468]

Thank you. Using the shorts for pigeon control. More than enough for problem birds. Like this video very much.

[@lavernedofelmier6496]

CCI 960 quiets are accurate out to 40 yards in Ruger 10/22 with an average 730 fps. I believe 68 db at shooters ears to be correct, hand cycling seems to work well.

[@independentthinker8930]

When I started hunting all I used for squirrel and rabbits were shorts, never had a problem as long as I did my job

[@thejungleexplorer]

Me too.

[@The_Warrior526]

I shot these out of my Glenfield 10 (Single-shot bolt with 22" barrel). The Quiets were just a tad louder than the CB Shorts. They had a hollow pop where the CB Shorts had more of a snap.

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@robertkeller9828]

In my 125 buck Rossi RS22 semi-auto, the CCI Quiets run perfect. And are actually quieter than my Crossman 2040 air pistol. Around 725-750fps(46-50 fpe) at the muzzle. Rifle seems to like them. I can actually run Aguilla Calibri powderless rounds (420fps...20gr) but have to use the charge handle to eject each round. No prob feeding however( length in-between a short and a long although on-the-box it's "lr". They are almost imperceptible except for an occasional "whiz sing" as they exit.) Better for bolt action and revolvers. Only prob is, only 7.5 lbs fpe. The same as the aforementioned Crossman 2040 air pistol. (And a 17.7 grain domed pellet is a larger "wad"). Calibris are expensive for what they are. Great for that cheap Heritage or Ruger single action. Interesting side note. My Rossi RS 22 HATES the CCI Stinger hollow points BUT maybe that's a break-in/ polish feed ramp issue. ( and the Stingers are LOUD when they do feed)

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@DrTadHusseinWinslow]

Glad you did this video - thanks... but couple of things. Accuracy is king, so that's what I'd like to see tested (either of these will easily dispatch small game). More importantly, not to belittle, but isn't subsistence-survival precisely the scenario when you do NOT need to be quiet? Any standard-vel, hi-vel, or hyper-vel .22lr will still be plenty quiet for a survival situation. It's when you're hunting for FUN that you need to be quietest.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Daniel Stoner!

[@bryanheimann5370]

excellent comparison. i have always compared magnum breakbarrels to a .22 short. nice to know I was right, lol. cci quiet looks pretty good...

[@thejungleexplorer]

+Bryan Heimann Thanks. I am very impressed with the Quiet. It is great in my Remington Target master 510. I did a complete 5 gun review on it you might be interested in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH62oJqlhJKcntk

[@mikem.2078]

Very good review. I think it gives just the information that most of us need. It would be nice to see this same test in a small revolver (I'm in the process of buying the lcr snubby), but I imagine the decision would still translate the same.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Here is a review I did for the CCI Quiet that includes a pistol test. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH62oJqlhJKcntksi=IQD2xXArBex3pu7E

[@Matersoup]

Took me a while to see what was up. The 22 Shorts you were shooting were CB rounds and it would have been nice if you said that out loud in your video.

[@thejungleexplorer]

I am sorry about that. I will try to do better. I don't write out a script and sometimes inadvertently skip saying stuff. I did not even realize that I did not say CB in this video until you pointed it out. I hope it was helpful though, in spite of the mistake.

[@Pablodwnunda]

Jesus who cares you didn't say CB lmao hahahahaha

[@dewaynewhite2928]

Not bad from both sides and I think both will do the business!!!! Good fair review my friend and love the channel!!!!! Awesome!!!

[@russellpurdie]

My CZ has a 27" barrel and there really quiet. I have had several stop in the barrel though so I always clean before using them, so beware the really, really quiet ones.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Great information. Thanks for sharing.

[@clarkescorner.6215]

If you can find any, include the CCI Supressor load. It seems to have an even greater velocity/energy with a quite report.

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@diggitallindadirt3283]

Great information thanks for the test results

[@Jim-oo7dk]

Great chrono, I'm just no good with them. My Caldwell only works about half the time.

[@thejungleexplorer]

It has been a good little chrono for me, but I don't think they are made anymore.

[@rickmanley767]

Thanks for posting, I found this interesting. Either your CCI short’s were old, giving inconsistent burns, or the RangeMaster is struggling with head space issues firing them. Meaning some of the expanding gas pressures actually pass the bullet before the bullet hits the lands. 100fps variances is not normal.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Rick Manley!

[@jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295]

Pellet gun .177 at 1000fps only 16lbs energy that 29 grain has like 35lbs maybe good for a squirrel or small favor or pest bird...

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting JESUS YESHUA EL ELYON elshadai Adon Ori haaretz! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

definitely a worthwhile comparison. I wonder what velocity numbers the cci short shot through a cold barrel would post. im glad you did this video as i needed to find the optimum round. i have two boxes of 22 short so i hope it posts good consistent velocities on a cold barrel as that is the most common way that i shoot. i wanted to use up my 22 short because i cant return the boxes. also i dont have a crono to run my own tests.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Thinking Impaired! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

@@thejungleexplorer definitely I do have a chrono now to monitor velocities. Thanks. I just can't CCI Quiet anywhere.

[@Jeanie363034]

try the CCI 22 short copper jacket hollow points--1105 fpc ......in my Henry 001 lever rifle they do great under 50 yards. The cbs are under powered

[@MylesZ06]

How quiet are they out of your Henry?? Im wondering if the CCI Short Copper JHPs would be quieter than the CCI quiets? I assume the JHPs would be louder, given their advertised velocity is supersonic.

[@pnotuner1]

My Remington Fieldmaster also shoots 22 shorts, but these were not very accurate out of my barrel at 25 yards.

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@jameswoodard4304]

I saw the cat's tail out of the corner of my eye and thought there was a snake at your feet. At least that would have made for a good demonstration.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting James Woodard!

[@LatestHour]

This is a much more humane way to take out a squirrel. I have a .22 air rifle that takes care of birds in one shot every time, but even a headshot to a squirrel isn't a 100% guaranteed kill.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Saved Life! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@frankmac154]

Bravo

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting @frankmac154. I am very happy to hear that you enjoyed the video.

[@jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295]

My pellet gun is louder than those quiets I've shot some quiets very quiet 😐

[@badgerrrlattin35]

Allow me to 2nd that observation. My .22 pellet rifle is noticeably louder than either 22cb short or CCI quiet.

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@CardScapeGame]

Wow! I'm sold.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Lord Rayden! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@kyhermit]

Those velocities were very inconsistent, could be an issue on small targets.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Philip Fox!

[@itsthorondil7608]

Gotta wonder if those shorts would cycle in a tube fed xt22

[@1voiceofstl]

Theyb feed fine in a henry lever action.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting itsThorondil! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@jeffmwoods]

good video, thanks

[@lionlocVanDwellington]

The quiets are definitely better. The bullet is a full 40g over 29g and in my gun the quiets are quieter

[@thejungleexplorer]

I agree

[@monmac1165]

that must have been the CB Short at 710 fps...not the regular CB Short which goes at 1080 fps.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Yes, it was a CB

[@samuelarthurs4458]

Great topic

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Samuel Arthurs! I am so glad the video was helpful.

[@lamardaniels6625]

Would I still need hearing protection if using the CCI Quiet???

[@thejungleexplorer]

Depends of the gun you use. If you gun has a long barrel you probably won't need hearing protection. If you shoot them out if a pistol, probably should use hearing protection.

[@xiasong8438]

My son asks that why dont you paint your rifle?

[@thejungleexplorer]

I apologize, I don't understand the question.

[@sharonmaclennan890]

Bad idea shooting past a building. What's the difference in price? Are these round nose lead or plated mushrooms?

[@thejungleexplorer]

This video is several years old and I have not seen this ammo for sale in years.

[@larryarnold1282]

Would like and thought you were using a semi auto rife.....because who is lucky to have your older bolt action....so this test means nothing for me.... .but thank you and I subscribed

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for you comment and for subscribing. I really appreciate it. It is true that I am extremely lucky to have this rifle that I inherited from my grandfather. But don't think the test is without some value. For one thing, to my knowledge there is not a semiautomatic that can shoot both shorts and long rifles, so the bolt action, single shot, or revolver are pretty much the only options. Second, I have several other videos in which I shoot LR ammo out of both this Targetmaster and a Ruger 10/22 and there is not a significant performance difference between them. Here is a video in which I test the CCI Quiet out of 5 guns, including the Ruger 10/22 and the Marlin 60 and the Remington Nylon 66. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH62oJqlhJKcntk Hope this helps answer your question at least a little bit.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

i use my 10/22 as a single shot rifle its just that easy. because the shell doesnt reject you manually eject the round after each shot. also consider purchasing a bolt action rifle with tube feed or just chamber each round manually with a magazine fed 22. by the way longer barrel 22s are much quieter. i like my mossberg model 44 for pest control.

[@FurlongSEOmarketing]

As he said, you can't shoot those round out of a semiautomatic because they're low velocity... they won't cycle properly in a semi. You need at least 1000fps round in a semi in which case you will make quite a bit more noise as the approach and or exceed the sonic boom point of 1125 fps. You can also still readily buy bolt action 22 rifles. Theyre quite popular.

[@mattgeiger9988]

Lever actions work great for both, plus faster follow up shots. My shoots lr, short and long 22.

[@thejungleexplorer]

@@mattgeiger9988 What model do you have?

[@marcosgabrielmansor3190]

Con una recamara 22 long el 22 short no logra toda su velocidad, con una recara 22 corto alcanza los 1000 pies tranquilamente

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting marcos gabriel Mansor!

[@ottolong2600]

My question is are these, CCI CB shorts, or standard velocity shorts? There is a difference of over 300 feet course second

[@thejungleexplorer]

CBs

[@ngirardo86]

You dont loose any power in a semi bc they don't have enough to cycle to action..

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting GIXXER_NICK!

[@kennethkrajewski9443]

Dont let the quiets fool ya. They can take down any small game. They don't eject on most rifles like hot rounds do!!

[@badgerrrlattin35]

I was regularly using cb shorts to take yard raccoons, in the past. Am sure the quiets would work too.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting Kenneth Krajewski!

[@bradtidball5206]

In future videos, you may want to specify that you're using ft-lbs for energy and not joules, for your international viewers. :)

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thanks for the advice. I have actually never heard of using joules to measure ammunition energy before and was not aware that some people do. I will try to take that into account in future ammo testing videos. Although, I may not be doing gun and ammo videos anymore since KZbin seems to not like them and has taken several of mine down. Future gun and ammo videos will only be available on my website: www.thejungleexplore.com. Thanks again for making me aware of this.

[@lon8983]

FPE was said and displayed several times after the 6:00 minute point.

[@robertscotti7970]

What is the fps from the shorts? My box of cci short hp says 1105 fps.

[@thejungleexplorer]

At 2:25 in the video I do the FPS testing on the ammo.

[@robertscotti7970]

@@thejungleexplorer guess ive got to wstch it again. Didnt hear it. Are they .22 target quiets. I did a lil research and those are slower moving less noise. Cci 22 LR quiet are 705 fps still a lil to loud especially out of a 4" pustol barrel... I know the longer the barrel the less noise youll hear... Just trying to keep attention away from myself behind the house in the woods. During Gun season it wont really matter because i have a hunting club which backs my property. Dont want to get anyones panties in an uproar....lol

[@thejungleexplorer]

@@robertscotti7970 I actually show the cumulative results on screen at 6:23 in the video if you don;t want to watch the whole video again.

[@robertturner5770]

We're those shorts or cb caps

[@thejungleexplorer]

Shorts.

[@dennis8309]

​@@thejungleexplorer- There are two types of shorts and it's important to mention the discussion. The shorts you are using are not .22 short, they are .22 short sub sonic. There is aprox 400 fps difference between the two...

[@thejungleexplorer]

The box is clearly visible in the video for all to see. You only have to actually watch the video to see what type of ammo is used. Also, when watching a KZbin video, it is important to pay attention to when the video was posted. This video is about 8 years old, for example, and was recorde during the Obama administration when there were extreme ammunition shortages.

[@davidpalkovich6903]

CB shorts, not regular shorts.

[@thejungleexplorer]

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[@reelfishing002]

Too bad there wasn’t a decibel meter

[@thejungleexplorer]

I eventually did get a decibel meter to include in my ammo testing, but the results were difficult to decipher and not very useful.

[@davidgardner863]

I wouldn’t call that rifle a weapon.

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for commenting @davidgardner863!

[@hairymanonetwo]

A short would take out a deer no problem ! Shoot in the chest area.... the deer would never know they were hit....bleed to death filling the lungs with blood.

[@Pablodwnunda]

Sounds beautiful:●

[@hairymanonetwo]

@@Pablodwnunda Yes beautiful... everything here suggest great deer control !!!!! Once shot...they never return !

[@thejungleexplorer]

Thank you for this great information Irv Farmer. I appreciate it very much when viewers contribute useful information as you have here.

[@juliogonzo2718]

I would not shoot a deer with a .22 short. Very good chance it will just be injured and suffer. Even a full power .22lr is risky and very possibly illegal for shooting deer depending where you live. Not saying an quick kill with little suffering is not possible with a .22lr but not a good idea.

[@HighPriestVaticanAssasin]

Any idea on the exact barrel length? Also what altitude and temp was it do you think?

[@thejungleexplorer]

The guns used were listed. Alt 1,100 feet. Temp 90 F