Ampeg SGT-DI or BASSRIG Super Vintage? ⚡️

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Philip Conrad

Philip Conrad

Жыл бұрын

In this video, I create a blind comparison test for you to listen to the Ampeg SGT-DI and the Origin Effects Bassrig Super Vintage back to back. I play three different basses in three different styles and you can pick your favorite, then I talk about what I like about each of these pedals.
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Ampeg SGTDI (Affiliate Link):
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Round 3: Nash Jazz Bass with Roundwound Strings
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@shauncombs
@shauncombs Жыл бұрын
My preference is #1 in all samples, especially in the samples with more drive. Really appreciate you doing this!
@mssqlguy
@mssqlguy Жыл бұрын
That b15 sound from the Ampeg is outstanding
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 10 ай бұрын
Fr, it sounds practically IDENTICAL! In a mix, that would be absolutely indistinguishable
@marijanbarac1216
@marijanbarac1216 2 ай бұрын
​@@greyklopstock7155i dont know..i could easily tell that 2 is SGT DI in both mix and solo play...its more realistic...the other one is a more generic tube overdrive
@marijanbarac1216
@marijanbarac1216 2 ай бұрын
​@@greyklopstock7155and that 'nuanced and balanced' what the guy in the video talks about is what makes it NOT realistic...every other tube drive emulator pretty much has that same tidy sound...real old amps cranked had much less 'lovely' sound to them...and sgt delivered in that regard...i can see why he prefers the first one...but yeah
@JazzmasterJonny
@JazzmasterJonny Жыл бұрын
This was exactly the type of comparison we've all been hoping for! Thank you so much!
@camerakungfu
@camerakungfu Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you tacked on the B15 bit at the end. That's the sound that interest me the most. Thanks.
@markmahoney5255
@markmahoney5255 2 ай бұрын
AWSOME comparison format. Well done🎉
@jordanraylanders4053
@jordanraylanders4053 Жыл бұрын
This is the video we needed, thank you so much!!!
@WhatJeanWants
@WhatJeanWants Жыл бұрын
The way the mids sat & projected so well in the mix with the Origin sold me on it for comparisons 1 & 2. Great video and shootout!
@shanab237
@shanab237 4 күн бұрын
I love that you show the waveforms that helps a lot thank you so much 😊
@MRlegofreak777777
@MRlegofreak777777 Жыл бұрын
Also probs, youre the man! I really enjoy your stuff and your honest and chilled out way of talking about bass! Such great Videos! The world of bass needs to see your channel!
@rebeccatattersall1778
@rebeccatattersall1778 Жыл бұрын
I went with #1 for each example. Thanks for doing this, it really helped me. The B-15 WAS outstanding!
@DustinDollinsShinBone
@DustinDollinsShinBone Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, thanks dude.
@YouYorick
@YouYorick Жыл бұрын
Excellent review , éducative and useful. Thanks 🙏
@WaveformWanderlust
@WaveformWanderlust Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I got the Ampeg for the B15 setting after watching this video. Very happy with the sounds.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@IggyYTube
@IggyYTube 8 ай бұрын
My test result was spot on and I must say it also motivated me to buy the BassRig pedal. So glad I have it. I own a 15 year old 300W Ampeg SVT CL (still USA build) & Ampeg 410 cab which is amazing but when going "ampless" this pedal really does a fantastic job.
@reec6389
@reec6389 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the battle, I‘ve been waiting for, Philip! From just listening, as you said, both sound different but really good, but where #1 really stood out, was the edge of break up and driven sound, way more natural and warm and pleasing sounding, than #2. For the SVT thing the Origin is the clear winner for me… The B15 on the Ampeg sounds really awesome though… 💫 Cheers from Hamburg👋🏼😀
@hamachi21
@hamachi21 Жыл бұрын
Number 1 all the way. But I'm blown away at the B15 setting on the Ampeg DI!
@mowhoudin
@mowhoudin Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was hoping someone made this video
@Eric1396
@Eric1396 Жыл бұрын
I was so hoping for someone to do this comparision. Thank you! My preference goes to #1
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@joachimsohn9898
@joachimsohn9898 Жыл бұрын
Bassrig Super Vintage is awesome! Thanks for the comparison.
@KelseyMcLeodKM
@KelseyMcLeodKM Жыл бұрын
Good time to be a bass player for sure. Really enjoy your channel Philip.
@marqpace
@marqpace Жыл бұрын
My preference is #1. I love the overall tone of #1 in each sample.
@mikaelolsson5333
@mikaelolsson5333 Жыл бұрын
I like both. #2 had more overdrive orange, but #1 sounded a bit nicer.
@chrisfielding
@chrisfielding Жыл бұрын
I really like this format. I know your channel isn't mainly a gear demo channel, but I'd like to see a shootout in this format with Aguilar Tonehammer and other popular preamp DIs
@billytrance6893
@billytrance6893 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video! I am a B-15 sound guy, so that nails it for me. However, that bass rig was amazing!
@conorlarkin1111
@conorlarkin1111 Жыл бұрын
I like that you talked about the feel and not just the sound. I can make most sounds work but I think the feel under the fingers is at least as important.
@Klaus80804
@Klaus80804 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree - I can get almost any sound with the Helix Stomp, but the feeling when playing is not right. That's why I use completely different stuff - all analog - live.
@samkeen
@samkeen 5 ай бұрын
This was great! Blind test is such a good approach. I preferred #1. They were pretty even for me when clean, but #1 sounded waaaayyy better to me when drive was kicking in.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hippiemark01
@hippiemark01 Жыл бұрын
That riff on the first test is lovely.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@pine3737
@pine3737 6 ай бұрын
Very good review! Nonne wins or loose, you should what each does. Great work, thanks
@1710Lysifer.Musikant
@1710Lysifer.Musikant Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I 👍👍👍
@gwawd
@gwawd Жыл бұрын
My votes were: Round 1: slight margin to 2 Round 2: definitely 1 Round 3: definitely 2 Go figure :) Thanks for the comparison and blind tests. Very useful!
@gregellevsen5280
@gregellevsen5280 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was sold on the SGT-DI until I listened to this comparison. But to my ears, the BassRig just sounds better. As you said, it's just that bit more full, and less artificial. It's a shame, because I love the features of the SGT-DI. But in the end, it's the sound that matters.
@colinfenton1581
@colinfenton1581 Жыл бұрын
I liked the extra saturation on #2
@ianperesmusic
@ianperesmusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. When Ampeg announced this, my immediate thought was "better than the bassrig?" Because I LOVE my super vintage bassrig.
@rustyshackleford-bb2vg
@rustyshackleford-bb2vg 3 ай бұрын
awesome review! You got that b-15 tone dialed in! I also own a 69 B15N, that I've been using regularly for over a decade. I couldn't tell!!!
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@spencerkoch1
@spencerkoch1 Жыл бұрын
I preferred 1. In the mix they both sounded good but alone #1 sounded a lot better.
@tommystratpaul
@tommystratpaul Жыл бұрын
Favorite was by far number 1!!
@aksandnes1466
@aksandnes1466 Жыл бұрын
This was interesting! I agree with your points, and after having played with the SGT-DI for a few days, it does do clean and clean-ish sounds really well! That said, it didn't do the trick for me, so I'm gonna sell that one and the hunt goes on. :) If only Origin could make a B15-voiced one that nailed the driven B15-sounds as well as the Super Vintage nails the SVT sounds!
@littleblackcloud86
@littleblackcloud86 Жыл бұрын
I *much* preferred #2. Was surprised to see it was the Ampeg. It was way more articulate and had better mids (while still retaining warmth) so would work better in a live scenario.
Жыл бұрын
Number 1 for clarity and presence
@natashanyxx9486
@natashanyxx9486 Жыл бұрын
I have to go with #2, because I prefer the cleaner articulation of notes. I think that it would cut through better in a mix. Both are good, but do slightly different things. To be honest, a blend of both of them would be perfect.
@Space_pulse
@Space_pulse Жыл бұрын
I feel that. I preferred the tone control and clarity of #2 at times. Seems like the EQ is really nice, and great to have if your amp doesn’t have a lot of tone control, especially. It does not break up like #1, though. The overdrive on number one sounds way better. There’s some really nasty, unmusical distortion when you push #2 with a hot input. I mean, not terrible, but very different from the first pedal. But that doesn’t matter to some players.
@fishbert17
@fishbert17 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting test! A really good idea to do it blind. I preferred pedal 2 in round one and pedal 1 in rounds two and three.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for watching! ⚡️
@jamiegustkey2573
@jamiegustkey2573 Жыл бұрын
I concur with what you said
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jamie!
@daytonlivingston5773
@daytonlivingston5773 Жыл бұрын
1 seems so much more mellow. 2 has a lot of character, and to me, seems to do a better job of simulating an actual amp. Not to say 1 is bad, and perhaps it just needs to be dialed in differently to achieve a similar effect. Love the blind comparison videos!
@StillWeRide
@StillWeRide Жыл бұрын
Great content!!! Love the way you presented the pedals blindly
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@balbo1981
@balbo1981 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for an ampeg sgt vs vt bass ❤
@soulstart89
@soulstart89 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly I preferred 1# on the a b test due to its subtle changes. The ampeg b15 blew my mind though. Soooooooo similar to the real thing i couldn’t tell when you switched
@Klaus80804
@Klaus80804 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this comparison, which I wished for. With the third "aggressive" sound, it was absolutely clear what Origin and what Ampeg is. The Origin pedals just sound so much like "real" amps, while the Ampeg's distorted sound (scrambler) is simply mixed into it. The black Origin (Fender type) is certainly a competitor for a B-15-like sound. And I'm sure that the Origin would probably win there too.
@romulomc
@romulomc Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa Жыл бұрын
I definitely preferred #1 in every single case, except when the #2 was soloed in the first section. In the mix, I did not like #2, however. So, definitely the Origin Effects BassRig for me. I should probably mention that what I am actually using is a DSM & Humboldt Electronics Simplifier Bass Station, which is also modelled after an Ampeg SVT.
@thebeyondwithin
@thebeyondwithin Жыл бұрын
Yea... For the first 2 test I was going for the ampeg, but when it comes to overdrive, it sound pretty bad to me. The Super Vintage sound a lot nicer for that overdriven tone. Thanks for the video!
@indelebi
@indelebi Жыл бұрын
OMG that B15 sound 🤯
@pUREsTORM9267
@pUREsTORM9267 3 ай бұрын
I preferred the Ampeg SGT when it was clean, but I much preferred the Bassrig Super Vintage when at the edge of breakup and overdriven.
@edwardjons8684
@edwardjons8684 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Interesting - very little price difference between the two on this side of the pond. I also preferrred the #1 Origin sound, and you could see from the scope that it was fuller throughout the range while the Ampeg had an uppermid scoop , biting upper frequencies and seemed a little fizzy in the upper frequencies. Still, the eq can probably tame that. Everything Origin build is market leading in terms of quality, but that Ampeg just does sooooo much and the option of running it as a practice unit with headphones is significant for me too. Tough call. I think someone like me who has very little gear will go Ampeg, while a player who a ready has a lot of the Ampeg’s functionality will go for Bassrig. Ie it’s only about the finer points of the sound if you have the other bases (basses?) covered.
@KevinMajka
@KevinMajka Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video. Really Confirmed my thoughts on the B15 tone from the SGT-DI pedal. Video idea: Can you do a comparison of the Bassrig 64 / Bassrig Super Vintage / SGT-DI SVT / SGT-DI B15 - same riff - just leveling with weaving in between with music and just bass like this video? I think these would get some use and be a fun way to acquire folks to your channel. But keep it going as you add more and more stuff in the preamp category of things.
@pierreleloup6033
@pierreleloup6033 11 ай бұрын
As a mixing engineer more than a bass player, my preference is 2 for the first sample and 1 in all the other ones, 1 sounds more mix ready for me an my taste, 2 seems to take too much place in a mix. But depending on the song, it could be the other way around, as you say the two sound good. Hi from europe
@madhatter7862
@madhatter7862 Жыл бұрын
I liked number 1, as a bassist, more low end between 50-100 HZ. Where #2 had that midrange punch which would cut through the mix well between 100-150 HZ. Depends on application, but instinctually like #1 for that fatter low end.
@abiestefanchik4890
@abiestefanchik4890 Жыл бұрын
I think I like 1 better, especially with the pick and with some drive. More low end and warmth to my ears
@rastyrori
@rastyrori Жыл бұрын
I'm liking the #2 sound - has more presence.
@GunnySmithApple
@GunnySmithApple Жыл бұрын
My favorite for round 1 was #2. My favorite for round 2 and 3 were #1. I’m gonna say that #1 is Origin Effects and #2 is Ampeg.
@chrisfielding
@chrisfielding Жыл бұрын
I prefer 1 overall. They both sound great in different ways though
@loopydemos
@loopydemos Жыл бұрын
I also think it was super obvious which was which. The cab sim in the BassRig gives it away I think. The Ampeg pedal sounded very much like a DI signal (which can be cool). Preferred the BassRig on all tracks. Nice basslines!
@rafagonzalez7815
@rafagonzalez7815 Жыл бұрын
Clean: 2 Breakup: 1 Aggressive:1 Winner: 1
@The_Ricardo_Sa
@The_Ricardo_Sa Жыл бұрын
Clean - both sound pretty similar - so ok if that's the style you are looking for I would go with any of them. For edge of breakup and cranked I would go with No2 - it has got more personality. The question now is, which one would fit better in a mix.
@4headgaming448
@4headgaming448 Жыл бұрын
Number 1 was my favorite by far. The Ampeg seemed like an appealing product, but something just sounds off when it was used at the edge of breakup
@davidmcgravey9858
@davidmcgravey9858 5 ай бұрын
I agree. As gain was added during each example it became harsh and farty.
@jonathanramilo8968
@jonathanramilo8968 Жыл бұрын
I preferred #2! Felt more punchy.
@benvin10365
@benvin10365 Жыл бұрын
I like a modern aggressive and pristine tones that work with my Modulus 6-String with EMG pickups.
@conorlarkin1111
@conorlarkin1111 Жыл бұрын
Oh man this is so tough, I think I like them both for different reasons buuuuuut if I have to choose then I think I prefer #2
@IvanBassist
@IvanBassist Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear that the Bassrig sounds much more like an amp+cabinet without having an impulse response
@fyllingenoy131
@fyllingenoy131 Жыл бұрын
2 was my favorite
@boogie8008
@boogie8008 Жыл бұрын
First groove, they sound the same and I would be happy to have either. Second groove, I liked #2 better as it had a little more focus and grit. Third groove, didn't like either sound and wouldn't use that setting. So I guess my favorite is #2, whichever one that is.
@l3c7ra13
@l3c7ra13 Жыл бұрын
Bought the bass rig super vintage to replace my dsm humboldt simplifier. Returned it after a few days. Kept the dsm. If you have the chance definitely try that one. Great channel btw.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@themosaito
@themosaito Жыл бұрын
1 for clean, 2 for the other two!
@rcb_matt
@rcb_matt Жыл бұрын
I bought the Ampeg about a month after it came out. I run a Markbass 12” combo with the 12” extension. Out of all the preamp pedals I’ve ran, I haven’t found one that sounds better than just running into the MB rig. The Ampeg was a game changer. I like how I can dial slight grit into m sound now. And it sounds legit. I have not tried the origin effects. I’ll be honest when you were doing the blind test I was hoping #1 was the Ampeg. 😂
@RKBibleStudy
@RKBibleStudy 5 ай бұрын
Number one in all categories for me.
@Expired_Twinkie23
@Expired_Twinkie23 Ай бұрын
I definitely preferred #1, but I only really cared about the difference in the 2nd and 3rd examples, which wasn't how I was really planning on using the pedal anyways.
@Jaredagoldsmith
@Jaredagoldsmith Жыл бұрын
My preference was Number 1. I was surprised that it wasn't the Ampeg. Both are great but number 1 was better all around.
@bones2532
@bones2532 Жыл бұрын
For me there's one important feature the bass rig has and the sgt doesn't: that's the blend control. Especially with overdriven sounds I really want to have some clean signal in the mix for punch and definition. This gets even more important as the sgt's overdrive sounds way warmer and creamier and doesn't cut through in the mix as well imo. It'also uses digital modelling, which has much more potential for getting into runtime/phase cancelling issues if you try to mix it with a clean d.i. signal, I suspect. I had these problems with my HX-Stomp trying to mix an SVT with IR with a dry, unprocessed signal path. Can really be a pain in the ass, I think.
@FoamSquatch
@FoamSquatch 7 ай бұрын
As an svt i was at a loss. Until we got to the agressive part where i would be at most, i preferred the the origin effects. If i wanted a b15 id jump on the ampeg.
@TheCvele001
@TheCvele001 Жыл бұрын
Definetly #1 Bassrig is fuller sounding preamp, i would described it as Thicker sounding device. But, B15 mode is awesome!
@scottwaycaster5493
@scottwaycaster5493 Жыл бұрын
I have the Bass Rig Pedal. Love it!
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@shannonmcmackin4665
@shannonmcmackin4665 Жыл бұрын
For sample 1 & 2, I preferred #2. For sample 3, #1 was better.
@kylechumchal
@kylechumchal Жыл бұрын
I like #1 much more for test 2 and 3 especially
@Flux799
@Flux799 8 ай бұрын
Direct into the board is the way to go 😊
@marg0049
@marg0049 Жыл бұрын
2 is better to me, much more interesting mid content that would poke through better in a mix. Although I wonder if the two examples could have been EQ'd to sound more similar.
@nephilymbass1
@nephilymbass1 Жыл бұрын
For clean tones they are both good. Any amount of grit though I prefer the bass rig.
@jameslitz8571
@jameslitz8571 Жыл бұрын
I have both these pre amps right now A B ing them in my band. I like the sound of the Ampeg alone but the Origin Effects seems to easily help cut through the noise. It seems like it is more powerful than the Ampeg. With the SGT channel on I like the sound but have a difficult time cutting through with it.
@ebbablom
@ebbablom Жыл бұрын
preferred number one all the way except for full on dirt, where 2 sounded more like fuzz, which was great. but for cleaner tones, 1 all the way.
@maciekszczycinski563
@maciekszczycinski563 Жыл бұрын
No 1 in all the examples. Amazing how it is always present in the mix even though no 2 often sounds more aggressive which is a bit counterintuitive.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@donaldmilne5352
@donaldmilne5352 Жыл бұрын
I'd take #1 for old-school vibes, but #2 for more modern sounds. Better is situational here, both sounded fine in an appropriate context (you're backing tracks were more old-school vibe, so #1 wins on that basis, but I'd probably want the brightness of #2 in other situations).
@kevinkwmiller
@kevinkwmiller Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Plus, he was playing flats, which added to the old school vibe.
@mrbassdbd
@mrbassdbd 9 ай бұрын
#1 is what I would want
@ferreiravini
@ferreiravini Жыл бұрын
I preffer the #1 because of the bas(s)ics. It's full, great sound, the bas(s)ic! BUT!!!! the #2 sounds great as an effect in second and third tests. Also, with the switch SVT/B15 turns its more versatile. And because of the information that the #2 is cheapear, so I would get the #2.
@dansours7157
@dansours7157 Жыл бұрын
1. 2 might work well in the context of who I play with but 1. Definitely 1
@spookysocks5914
@spookysocks5914 8 ай бұрын
I liked 2 the most.
@johnny.musician
@johnny.musician Жыл бұрын
Gotta go with #1. If I were playing Chris Squire, Entwistle or Peter Hook songs I’d go with#2, but as I don’t I’m happy with my first choice.
@nathanminert3119
@nathanminert3119 Жыл бұрын
I like #2 better for the first two tones, but for the 3rd tone I like #1 better.
@roadbull1
@roadbull1 Жыл бұрын
2 all day - Long live the mid range!
@MarcAntoineForget
@MarcAntoineForget 2 ай бұрын
Hi Phil, great review !! On the Origin did you use the DI or the Amp out? Does the SV have the same major frequencies roll-off that the 64 Black panel has? I had the Black panel for a couple of days...it sounded great through the Amp out but the DI is unusable in my opinion :(
@MrJAZZBASS59
@MrJAZZBASS59 11 ай бұрын
Hi , yes for me also thé number 1 IS better but thé number two is also good and very cheap ! So i think i will buy both . Thank guy for your vidéo 🌹🙏
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@punker6506
@punker6506 Жыл бұрын
100% agree with you. The bass rig sounds better to my ears
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@heberluviano1584
@heberluviano1584 Жыл бұрын
This is a hard one. During the first test I preferred 1, but for the breakup and aggressive test, I preferred 2.
@philipconradmusic
@philipconradmusic Жыл бұрын
Go with your gut. You know what you like. Thanks for watching!
@Phunkophil
@Phunkophil Жыл бұрын
On the clean test #1 sounded better to me, at least in the context of the whole mix. On alle other examples, #2 sounded better to me. So I'm going with #2 overall.
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