An Advanced Guide to Vocaloid Listening

[@ubnubmaster]

We have a discord server up stop by and say hi: discord.gg/xdUvy5T

[@hellosajini]

Awesome will def join

[@mixiesticks]

I've been watching VOCALOID music for over ten years now and I never knew that there was an English mode on Nico Nico

[@redcomn]

Been there for few years yet the implementation is still crappy.

[@jlbeeen]

I just use Google Translate if I really need to... But yeah, it has English and if you set up your account to say that you're outside of Japan, usually it gives the option to use English by default. I used my Nintendo Network ID as a login which is a really cool option.

[@selkie7762]

Mine was automatically made, (and it wasn't google translate btw)

[@irlenanan]

God, I never knew the fandom needed a video essay-type channel until I came across yours. Thank you for being such a great resource for beginner vocaloid fans, your content is amazing and I hope your channel grows even more than it already has.

[@rubberchicken1219]

"Five to eight songs I listen to on repeat whole riding the bus to school everyday" damn ubnub dont expose me and my illegally downloaded ievan polkka like that 😔

[@ubnubmaster]

I hit where it hurts homie

[@hypoconductor]

I would also like to clarify that NayutAlien had a KZbin account a long time ago but it was taken down thanks to KZbin’s horrible copyright system, and no attempt was made to remake it until this year, and thus most of his presence on KZbin remains in fansubs. Please support the original artist when you can, everyone. Also, thanks for introducing Nicobox. I had no idea it existed.

[@blueparrish]

nayutalien remade his channel i'm pretty sure? kzbin.info/door/hK8kgGU767nKTxp4f4GD6g

[@hypoconductor]

blue Yeah, I meant until recently. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

[@moonsaghost]

The biggest advice for new vocaloid fans is just try to find creators and styles you like. It can be hard to keep track of current stuff and feel included in the fanbase because of how reclusive the vocaloid community can be. Another thing for new fans is that they shouldn't feel ashamed if they dont know a famous song. Just find stuff you like.

[@goldandcheese]

Is it fine if i don't like a song that most people like? Even if it's popular, or a classic?

[@moonsaghost]

@@goldandcheese Of course! That's your opinion, and you shouldn't feel forced to like something just because it's a classic. There are plenty of classics I dislike.

[@DBfan12]

I could've definitely needed this back when I first got into Vocaloid, lol. My main method was (and still is), KZbin. What really restricted a lot of Vocaloid for me was that while I can enjoy a song while not knowing what it is about, knowing the lyrics makes me appreciate it a lot more. So my main method would be watching a video someone had subbed, and looking at the recommended if something interested me. I still do that, and that's how I found a lot of my favourite producers. People like VGperson, AmeSubs, OccasionalSub, and especially DescentSubs definitely helped me a lot with founding songs I enjoyed, and it's a shame that a lot of them stopped. But that's why I'm also so happy more and more Vocaloid Producers are getting KZbin accounts! It's how I've gotten to check out famous producers like Mitchie M, PinocchioP and Wonderful Opportunity! A lot of them have english subtitles too. I'm glad you mentioned Project Diva as well. It's definitely a good way to get to experience new songs, which was why I loved Project Diva F2nd, the first gameI got so much. It just made me happy that they had english subtitles for a lot of songs. I'm sadly not a gamer, so I've only played F2nd, Mirai Deluxe and just recently got Mega 39's. I've loved them all, though none of them has been as good as F2nd imo. I just loved the gameplay, it was a lot of fun to play. I probably won't get Future Tone anytime soon, since from what I've seen the gameplay is fairly similar to Mega 39's, and it's just not that fun imo. Still like the videos though.

[@NikkoNantone]

The sub accounts played such a huge role in the initial growth of the English speaking Vocaloid fandom. The comments were basically a forum and archive of everything. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels sad about the sub channels being gone.

[@redcomn]

I liked hikarisyuyo, he's extremely underrated since all people listen to were his song on project diva 🤣

[@deetdeettv4945]

same, i luv hikarisyuyo so much 😭 one of my favorite producers ever. i always recommend him when people ask for vocaloid suggestions. he deserves a lot more attention 🥺

[@redcomn]

@Payton that was Centralia

[@redcomn]

@@deetdeettv4945 even tho he arrange the music for girl dead monster hardly anyone knew him for that.

[@redcomn]

@Payton and the guitar is telecaster, he's famous for using rin back in the day.

[@RalseiSmokinAFatBlunt]

SAME!!! i love his music

[@_Rhatsody]

What you didnt add to this video was subscribing to cover makers and translators. You have a chance to be introduced to new songs cover makers like ot get requested to. And with translators you get to see a myriad of songs across all genres and producers unless theyre bias to a favorite.

[@ubnubmaster]

That's a great point never thought about that

[@victoriawynston9221]

I ended up finding a lot of Vocaloid songs, new and old, through translators !! So yeah it really is a great way to find songs !!!! (Also also a lot of creators from niconico have KZbin accounts now so subscribing to them works too + KZbin will start suggesting more songs!)

[@cloudhead5610]

a different way for me to discover new vocaloid songs is by following a lot of utaites i like. since they usually tend to cover a bunch of (popular) vocaloid songs. it's a good way for me to find out about new producers/ discover new music. for example: i discovered niru kajitsu & hiiragi kirai by listening to yuu miyashita's covers of their songs and plot twist, niru kajitsu is now one of my absolute favourite vocaloid producers. the same goes for syudou. my personal utaite recommendations: mafumafu, soraru, nqrse, luz, yuu miyashita, meychan, senra, uratanuki, shoose...

[@MochYee]

10:35 (psst, IAイア is pronounced "ee-ah," not "I. A." :3) This is an amazing guide, I was never really that into Vocaloid when it was in its prime, but now I'm starting to find myself getting back into it, and I've always wanted to learn more beyond the basics. Thank you so much for this!

[@thoang2k]

One is also prounced O-Neh :))

[@LmaoItsDead]

Ikr Japanese accent, it was also used as well in Indonesian/Malay. We're used to pronounce "I" with "ee" and not "ai"

[@zelda8u]

I'm not the kinda person who needs to be on top of the scene at all times but I find the most common way I find new songs is from concert footage. Which is still mostly Crypton so probably not an ideal way to learn. I was pretty out of the loop between 2017 to 2019 so it was a good way to catch up so to speak

[@hanseleve]

I already have my corner of vocaloid, but recently I purchased MegaMix and have been going through my Miku phase. I've also been trying to find newer songs and browsing NicoNico, so new producers have been popping up for me.

[@dezzydream]

i also purchased megamix, but i've been in this shit for 10 years. you never leave this fandom, trust me.

[@lookatthiscutekittyc2903]

@@dezzydream you think you have left it. Then bam! You remember a song you used to love, decide to listen to it and ultimately fall into the rabbit hole that is vocaloid.

[@Yeti1473]

@@lookatthiscutekittyc2903 Haha this is exactly what is happening to me right now lol I left for a couple years but I keep finding myself humming songs and remembering playing Future Tone. I'm going to buy mega mix tomorrow as I'm going on a trip and having a portable game might be a nice way to come back to vocaloid.

[@urvashijariwala5895]

On the topic of KZbin, since that is my main resource, I learned a tip from another KZbinr, about finding some new songs. You can actually filter the search results to most recent uploads, the max is within the year. So, say you wanted to listen to a song with Miku. You can type in Miku's name in either Japanese or English with other key words like original or feat. and filter the results. On mobile, it's the bars next to the search bar and on the website, it should be the bars underneath the search bar. It's important to note that this doesn't protect from reuploads, so keep that in mind.

[@LycanMOON]

I’ve been wondering if someone would make something like this

[@user-nz9po6zp4x]

I'd like to give some suggestions too: -If you want more English (or other languages) Vocaloid songs, KZbin is your best bet as Nico Nico mainly focuses on Japanese. -If you want more Chinese Vocaloid, BiliBili is your best bet. Though BiliBili's app is only in simplified or traditional Chinese, it would be a struggle (I can read Chinese so it's fine for me). KZbin is also a good alternative but it's still rare. -Listening to covers/utaties, watching animatics and fan videos do potentially help with learning/discovering Vocaloid. There were certain anime fan-made PVs that did help me get into Vocaloid. It gave you the appeal as it's a language you are familiar with (covers) or a fandom you enjoy (animatics and PVs) -For certain producers, some of them have full albums on Spotify (maybe Apple music, but I use Samsung so I have no clue), I know n-buna, Kikuo and a few others have some. Some are on KZbin like Wowaka's album (Not in his channel but its accessible)

[@stefanuschristofan1852]

In addition to Project Diva, we now (well not now, but in a few months from now) have Project Sekai, a gacha mobile rhythm game developed by Sega and Colorful Palettes (subsidiary of Craft Egg, developer of Bang Dream!). In the game, there are 20 characters, grouped in 5 units, and 6 crypton vocaloids. Most of the songs in the game are cover songs and it will be a mix between character and vocaloid vocals. You may or may not like the project sekai cover version, but the song list of this game can be used as reference to learn popular vocaloid songs. The songs they featured in the game are equivalently popular and top songs, just like songs from Project Diva series. Currently they have announced +- 30 songs featured in the game. But, this is a mobile game, a live GaaS game, so the songs will be added overtime. I'm not saying you should play this game, but you can keep track to the song list of this game as a reference. Moreover, unlike project diva, the developer said they might feature non-crypton vocaloid songs in the game, so that's a big plus compared to original project diva series. Also, they have the popular producers making theme songs for each of the in game units. The songs are not yet announced, but they will be original songs exclusive for this game.

[@yesunkim3662]

One of my first recommendations to people looking for more VOCALOID music to listen to is to think about a genre of music or non-VOCALOID artist they like, and try to find VOCALOID music that is similar. Like if someone likes metal music and is pretty disinterested in the j-pop-y electro-pop-y sound of "most" VOCALOID music, i'd recommend looking up a "vocaloid metal songs" playlist or something, and from there they'd likely find and keep up with vocametal producers like Utsu-P or Senjougahara Yousei. You touched on it briefly but i LOVE VocaDB as a VOCALOID songs resource, its "tags" page has 200+ music genre tags, and even "theme" tags like "graduation" or "melancholy" since VOCALOID music can be a little evasive genre-wise sometimes. Anyway, another wonderful video, thank you for your hard work!

[@JMANTHEGERMAN]

Friend: Do you stream Vocaloid songs? Me: *Laughs in 5 GB folder*

[@bluestar3939]

Great video! I think it's the best I've seen on this topic. I find that Niconico was very important in the past but with the increasing number of producers who publish their songs on KZbin too or sometimes KZbin only, I find myself using mostly KZbin for new songs. I still go on Niconico sometimes to check older songs. There is also Bilibili for Chinese Vocaloid but I don't like the website, so the only Chinese producers that I follow are the few that have a KZbin channel. You said that Nayutalien recently created his KZbin channel but I think he had one in the past but it was deleted and then he came back to KZbin. I usually don't like talking about my own videos on other channels but since this is related to new songs I'll do it this time : every month I make a video to show the new Miku songs I found during the month so if some people struggle to stay up to date with the songs using Miku, you can check what I do (I also do Project Diva videos)

[@ubnubmaster]

Thanks for sharing I'll give it a look!

[@QDisaCutie]

Thank you for making this guide! I've always listened to Vocaloid on KZbin. Because I've been listening to vocaloid more casually lately, it's become hard for me to find new songs. I'll be using this guide to find new vocaloid songs to listen to!

[@Odhil95]

Man, you're doing what I dreamed of in my teenage years: To have a serious discusion about Vocaloid. I'm still into Vocaloid trance after all these years and I'm happy to have found your channel.

[@teal.4674]

Thank you for introducing NicoBox, no idea it let me do offline playing without ads too!!! And you can support the original!! It’s amazing!!!

[@hajimehinatas]

im so happy i got back into my vocaloid phase last year after a 2 year hiatus. thanks for helping out with my discovering new vocaloid songs other than my 200+ vocaloid songs already.

[@Yeti1473]

I found out about vocaloid in middle school and became absolutely obsessed with it. Within 2 or 3 years I dropped out of it because most people found it as strange and I didn't want to be ridiculed. A few years later I occasionally finding myself humming songs I haven't heard in a very long time and sometimes I even come back to listen to some. My main thing was the Project Diva games and I think tomorrow I'm going to buy mega mix for my switch. I've owned Future Tone for a few years now but I want something new. I just found your channel tonight and you have a lot of interesting videos and I think I'm once again invested in vocaloid. Keep up the nice work 👍

[@bluesnowman02]

I hope you could cover John! Such a small but talented vocaloid artist!!

[@ubnubmaster]

I really like John maybe one of these days, wish he didn't chose such a generic name though lol

[@bluesnowman02]

ubnubmaster yeah agreed! We just gotta keep supporting him!!!!

[@of_the_valley]

do you mean John Zeroness or just john? cause i like them both but they're very different producers (and both would make an interesting video)

[@doxyjr3603]

I always expect this vocaloid videos to be like 2 or 3 years old, it's nice to see a fresh one

[@fransuke56]

I discovered Vocaloid from playing Battlecats, a game app from a Japanese company. They had a collaboration event with Hatsune Miku, and they used music from Vocaloid and I was hooked!!! I've slowly been growing my songs, I like the fast paced songs (not crazy fast). Before that I had only heard of Hatsune when the story about the guy who married an AI of Hatsune Miku! Never thought I'd be a fan one day!

[@themoonisironic]

i’ve been needing a video like this since middle school! this is so incredibly helpful and is going to make looking for new music a lot less scary, thank u! (also to fellow newbies - i’ve been trying to get into vocaloid again bc i’ve been listening to utaite and i think they’re a great introduction to vocaloid! i’ve been slowly finding producers by looking up the original versions of the covers i like ^^)

[@namirastars]

going through this was pretty informative as a fan for years that hadnt attempted using niconico before!! knowing theres an english mode makes me wanna go back and try so thanks!! as a fan that has mostly stuck to youtube for the past decade of listening to it, ive got a few tips myself! -subscribing and going through channels of those who subtitle songs and sort by their latest work, newer songs are bound to pop up and the name of the producer should be available, if you like it just further look into them! -there are a lot of 'vocaloid song guessing games' or just tierlists of songs people themselves like here! guessing games are fun for me because i also get to test my knowledge and if i dont recognize something i can find its name in the comments or description and such and look into it! while it isnt youtube theres a blog on tumblr called vocaloidscreenshots that share songs they find on youtube which really helps!! everything is also properly credited so i can look into the producer!

[@SmugHomura]

Awesome initiative. What I can recommend for discovery of new artists is going to youtube, typing in your vocaloid (or just the word vocaloid) with a genre that you like (Gumi Metal, Vocaloid Jazz, etc). Then you just open up 5 or so songs that catch your eye, from there just go crazy with the recommendation section. KZbin's algorithm, although a nightmare at times, does do a great job of fishing up the most obscure stuff with barely any views if you go deep enough down the recommendation hole. Just click on anything that looks or sounds cool. You're gonna find a lot of fully japanese titles as well, if that scares you just try to translate it once or twice and pick up on the names of vocaloids (like (初音ミク for Miku) or specific artists (like 鬱P for Utsu P). From there just continue and expand your searches. Sometimes I do a thing I call "discovery night" where I just plow through youtube for an entire evening and fish up a ton of great stuff I would've never know how to search otherwise.

[@Copperhell144]

Y'know, despite being familiar with some of the more well known songs, I really need to get my bearings on both the producers and the overall "timeline" of the scene, which your channel really helps with. So thank you very much!

[@adirondacknorthway]

in my honest opinion, soundcloud is definitely one of the best platforms for listening to vocaloid. i've been using it for about a year at this point and i have found basically every song i've ever liked that's vocaloid on it. something i noticed about spotify when comparing it to soundcloud was how limited the selection of songs was on spotify in comparison. most of the vocaloid songs they had on there were covers, and it took me a while to find what i was actually looking for. there is also an extremely limited selection for producers i listen to, for example kairiki bear had almost nothing and utsu-p's just didn't sound right. im probably just being nit picky but it really threw me off. that's why i reccommend soundcloud a lot, both to experienced fans and new fans alike :]

[@vivianephona]

As someone who's getting back into the Vocaloid scene (since like 2012), the knowledge of NicoBox is VERY helpful! Gonna check that out I got into Vocaloid around 2008 and KZbin has been my first and still best resource. All the songs back then I learned from now dead blogs or word of mouth but today I will look up people's Vocaloid top X number lists for new tracks. Also noting producers is very important. I discovered some great producers I had no idea had more than one song (EZFG, LamazeP, CircusP, ect.) I do use Spotify for Vocaloid listening, not exactly discovering. I know Spotify has licensing issues that kill a lot of "foreign" music but it's almost a puzzle for me to find a producer or find a certain song. Ever so often I'll discover more lesser known songs of producers but yeah no ryo, wowaka, OSTERproject, or my favorite Machigerita. Thank you for this video though! I feel less intimidated by Nico so I might give it a shot

[@Sil_chan22]

14:14 made me so happy because I love HONEYWORKS :)

[@winteriris13]

yes!! I needed this!! I have mega mix but I love finding new music to fill up my playlist! I love this

[@MarvinValentinP]

"This is the big boy" -ubnubmaster 2020 lol

[@ohmaigaaad]

I saw the nicobox logo and had a heart attack I haven’t seen that logo since sophomore year of highschool, it’s a really good way to listen to music in the background and I’m surprised more people don’t know about it

[@radinaradeva514]

Your video was very interesting. Since I've always been the more random and casual type of listener, I exclusively have been using KZbin to find new vocaloid tracks. At some point I had accumulated around 300-400 songs in my playlist solely from digging around in here. Translation channels, Vocaloid/Utau cover channels, nico-nico choruses would be my main go-to for finding songs. I would highly recommend looking up voicebank names instead of song names in the beginning. Also experiment with different versions of songs, like accoustic or jazz arrangements. To me, the different ways people tune a VB can add or substract from a song, so finding covers is extremely valuable. Also googling lyrics or finding passionate folks on Tumblr helps lots. Have fuuun ☀️

[@jizzaconda6948]

This is gonna sound really damn stupid but thank you so much for doing these Vocaloid videos, I'm being serious. I really love Vocaloid! And seeing these types of videos honestly makes me so damn happy! It really nice to see people still do care about Vocaloid. So again, thank you!

[@JeronisLeror]

I may have mentioned that I'm a new Vocaloid Producer in a previous comment, but thank you for this. It makes it so much easier to share for people to understand how to find my music. Thanks! Shameless Self-Promo: My first album is already here on KZbin and includes a version of each of it's six songs sung by Kaito. My Second & 3rd albums are all Vocaloid. Both my Second and 3rd Albums are set for release on Oct. 1 and 31 respectfully, and the Second is entirely OG, while the 3rd is a Holiday album with some entirely OG, some samples based, a "haunted" version of "Wassail, Wassail" to try to capture the fear that was felt by people who were Wassailed by the crowds, (Historical Context: Had their property looted by drunk rioters,) and a song that goes through the history of Hanukkah using transcribed samples from three songs traditionally sang at Hanukkha.

[@Lenthebanana]

Didn't know most of what was said in the NicoNico section but will help me keep on top of things alot better now than what I've been doing here on KZbin. Asside form that I know it wasn't mentioned but SoundCloud isn't a bad place to go for vocaloid eaiter especially if your new. I will just make a warning about the playlists titled Vocaloid as while looking through them to help with making my own one I found a fair amount had a good number of non vocaloid songs in them making them a pain to go though. But generally speaking it's not a bad place to go.

[@anastarsia5587]

I already was a veteran fan, but I learned so much from you about Vocaloid anyway! Thanks!

[@sanjanaanan3771]

I've been listening to vocaloid songs on KZbin from 2016. My personal playlist has grown to 400+. It may be smaller than most but all of the songs are close to my heart. Throughout these years I've been able to find and subscribe to both big and very small artists in the community. The algorithm eventually starts recommending similar artists/songs so you find new content, even older hit songs. You can follow translators on KZbin, but make sure to check out the actual video from the artist since that supports them the best. Also another great way to stay up to date with new songs is following their Twitter if you have an account. Not only do they notify followers about previews, they'll retweet other vocaloid producers' works.

[@gingerspice5477]

Thank you so much for making this. I technically got into vocaloid years ago but I only listened to about 20 songs and really only listened to crusher-p until recently when I started really getting into the fandom. I’ve been looking for how to get more into the fandom (what’s the memes/ what songs should I know/etc.) so this video really helps!

[@TheSenorDose]

I can attest to project diva being the best way too get into vocaloid. I knew about vocaloid for many years and even heard a few songs here and there. But I never got deep into it because of the sheer amount out there. Project diva future tone was what made me a fan of the genre. Eventually I branched out and started listening different artist and full albums. Vocadb especially helped with that part too!

[@egglet535]

when you mentioned nicobox the slowest smile came actoss my face lmaooo

[@emilywafflesyay]

i've been in the fandom for about 2-3 years now, and i only use youtube (and vocadb) to find new songs! i don't use spotify, i use a downloaded song player called musicbee to listen to my songs. i download the songs i find off youtube to play in musicbee. i have 590 tracks just doing this! one thing you didn't mention was *youtube's recommended*. if you watch a ton of vocaloid videos, you're gonna get some new content thrown at you. some from new producers you didn't even know existed! this is a great way for me to find new music, BUT you have to watch a ton of vocaloid videos first... youtube is actually smart in a way as well, because it notices the producers i listen to and don't subscribe to, and throws me a new song in recommended when it comes out! reminds me to subscribe to those producers. you are absolutely right when you say youtube makes you learn the producer names to remember. i put those names into vocadb to find more content by that producer! but i do thank you for opening my eyes to even more ways to find new music. your channel is awesome!

[@playcompile]

Oh wow! - That app makes life so much easier. The few times I've tried using NicoNico, I've ran into endless buffering and gotten lost in their awful menu interface that I ultimately just gave up. This app is so much nicer to use... THANKS DUDE!!

[@moopoo8841]

I really appreciate this community lol. I almost never meet anyone in this community in real life tho, so it’s hard to have real connection with it

[@juromori]

Please make a video about JimmyThumbP music and influence in the vocaloid community! It would be awesome!!!

[@Neopets4Life494]

Props to you for using PJDExtend footage at the end. It looks very clean What I also notice in the comments section on videos such as this one or beginners' "how to get into vocaloid music" is that they also recommend some Producers, which is sometimes a good tool when you see some comments mentioning a producer you've never heard before. . A lot of the producers I find now is mostly casual through twitter or youtube since I'm not actively hunting for new people to listen to as opposed to when I first got into it (KZbin, Project Diva, and then just random searches on what kind of sound I like). I have the ones I like now but there are times where I'll be like "okay, who is this producer?" . If anyone wants one recommendation and wanna hear something different, I'll always recommend Nashimoto-ui for those who are willing to give his whole library of music a chance. Starting with his popular songs like Petenshi ga Warau Koro Ni (When Crooks Laugh) or Kutabare PTA, but then maybe Kuso Mitai na J-POP (That Crappy J-POP) when you see that you don't wanna listen to Miku J-pop-sounding music anymore. And I don't recommend him if you're sensitive to darker topics since he talks about them in his music. He's not easy to get into.

[@alfadrottning42]

I like using KZbin channels that translate songs to find new producers since they include links to the original upload in the description. It makes it really easy to find the official channels of a whole bunch of different producers

[@allysinning]

I discovered vocaloid through chatango rooms back in 2011. We primarily shared songs through KZbin. There is nothing I miss more than the old KZbin recommended algorithm. I would go down vocaloid rabbit holes for HOURS, but now KZbin consistently fails to ever recommend anything new to me. There was a Japanese app available in the North American App Store back in 2011-2012 that I used all the time. It was a nico nico app but I don’t know if it was produced by nico Nico or if it was a third party Nico Nico player. It was completely in Japanese so while at the time it was so useful for finding songs, there are so many songs to this day that I’ve lost and haven’t been able to find again because they were on that app. It sounds like it was very similar to Nico Nico box. When that app got taken down I never knew anything like that ever resurfaced in the North American App Store. So thanks for the recommendation!! Lastly, while it is the absolute bare minimum, if someone is interested in getting into vocaloid games but does not have a console or a means to purchase one, project sekai is available in the App Store. It has a fair mix of popular vocaloid songs and game-only songs, including some songs with Gumi, IA, and vFlower. But it did introduce me to some vocaloid songs I’d never heard of before. Plus it’s convenient for on the go. Really enjoyed this video and I love your channel!

[@an.drommi5905]

you are a god!! This is what I needed, ive been slowly falling out of vocaloid… but now I feel motivated to continue!!! thanks!!!

[@mfkai6080]

Man I really wish I had this video a few years ago when I first got into vocaloid. I used to learn about new songs from concerts and slowly figure out the names of some of the producers and even then a lot of the songs aren't on apple music. I honestly thought the fandom was pretty much dead (at least in America) when I first started because everything was so hard to find. So thank you so much.

[@Janet9148]

the past couple of years i've been struggling to keep up to date with vocaloid so thank u!

[@Zekenator_77]

I've been listening to vocaloid for a while on and off but love it. Awesome to know that there's a community. Man thanks to you I want to go back to it and enjoy vocaloid again

[@hypoconductor]

I don’t know if anyone’s said this here but NicoBox is now ボカコレ for anyone trying to find it.

[@NinaPetch]

Great summary! Another thing I love to do is to go down the tag of each song and hunt for my favorite 歌ってみた

[@nochenieve]

seeing eve videos in the intro, even if it is not vocaloid. Still really cool you listen to him. Also thanks for speaking to us, the old vocaloid fans

[@annaferns1840]

The fact that polymiku is here makes me wanna respect you way more than I already do. Thanks for the video, really helpful!

[@Arcvx]

I’d love to see you make a video about Ayase and his meteoric rise as YOASOBI. I think that would be an interesting topic.

[@azurereloaded]

me too!

[@carlaluz2990]

just started getting into vocaloid and your channel is a blessing!!!! thank you for all your hard work and time spent on your videos! they're so helpful :')

[@allexia0595]

Fantastic video, huge thanks for this. Absolute life-saver when you’re a vocaloid fan with a busy job, a masters degree to study, a wife waiting at home and child on the way!

[@GG-671]

I pretty much slowly got into vocaloid through youtube, and I don’t use any streaming plaform besides that. I download my songs as an mp3 from youtube, add to my laptops itunes plalist then synced to my phone. For me, im able to highly customize each song and play it freely and w/o internet. Learning more from ur video will help me expand my horizons and hopefully find those songs in youtube:3

[@CursedCatTruffa]

It's nostalgic seeing how inconvenient and complicated is niconico, as on the prime of Vocaloid I watched the no rankings daily or weekly, or just hear my music there, nowadays I use mainly the Vocaloid database to search for specific Vocaloids or composers and new music, besides subscribing on KZbin, thanks for your hard work on informing us about Vocaloid! I really love your channel

[@ezequielramirez153]

I wish this video existed back when I started listening to Vocaloid! I heard about Vocaloid from a rhythm game that featured some Last Note songs and Bad ∞ End ∞ Night, but I didn't have any interest in the genre right there. Later, I started learning japanese and become interested again in Vocaloid and started to search new songs in KZbin and NicoNico. Now there's a new option made by Crypton themselves called Kiite, which is like Nicobox but with some interesting features, like a song radar where you can find songs based on the mood of the song (sad, cheerful, aggressive, cold, etc.). The downside is that it's browser only (no mobile client), and it's only in japanese unfortunately. You can access it here: kiite.jp PS: the Vocaloid ranking page still exists but it's only accessible by directly entering the page: ex.nicovideo.jp/vocaloid/ranking Seems that it's still updated.

[@Lady_ETHNE]

As someone who got introduced to some of my all time favorite Vocaloid songs by playing Project Diva and Project Mirai, thank you for mentioning it.

[@meganjankowski1124]

Thank you so much for this! I just got into vocaloid a few months ago and I've been mostly using KZbin. I definitely can relate with that void feeling you described and there have been many times that I've felt overwhelmed. It's hard trying to find new vocaloid hits while also learning the classics! To say the least, your video has helped a lot. This is exactly what I needed.

[@israel120298]

I HAVE BEEN WANTING A VIDEO LIKE THIS FOR YEAARS

[@eleanording4633]

Man, this was so helpful, especially the NicoNico and NicoBox stuff. I've been on-and-off into vocaloid for almost two years, but til now I have always been restricted to KZbin and Apple Music because I found NicoNico too intimidating, what with the language barrier and the complicated interface. I've been using it more and more often these days thanks to this video, so I've got to thank you for simplifying the whole thing for me! As for Apple Music, it pretty much only has the big producers on there, and even then it's still missing a ton of iconic songs/producers. It's not perfect by any means, but I use it mostly to listen to albums from producers I already know I like, such as Deco*27 and 40mp. I definitely don't use it to discover any new music beyond album tracks.

[@chompinator]

My personal tips that have helped me as someone who really struggled to properly get into vocaloid listening for a while - 100% agree that diva/mirai is a very good starting point for vocaloid listeners. nowadays i would say check out sekai too bcs as a mobile game it can keep up with new hits a little better/is more accessible and it also features non-cryptonloid songs! Ik its a little controversial bcs people cannot agree with how good it is for the vocaloid community but at the very least it helped me discover a bunch of songs/producers i wouldve never listened to otherwise. (also the Cover versions can be switched to the originals for nearly every single song if u just want the original vocaloid version) - youtube recommendations have also brought me many songs i like so if you see something interesting... click on it and give it a listen! You might find a new fave producer... - Dont feel bad if you cant get into one of the classics "vocaloid" encompasses a wide variety of music genres and naturally people wont like every single song presented to them. - i like those "guess the vocaloid song" videos bcs it gives you a little snippet of what a bunch of songs are like and then if any of them seem interesting you can take note of them and go listen to them more

[@lilacflowerao]

Pls never stop posting, ur videos are so much fun to watch and so informative

[@mochiamori]

for people wanting to listen to vocaloid music on spotify and wants to expand their library past what spotify offers its actually easy to do. with a spotify premium account you can take local music files from your computer and import them into spotify, you can then put them in any playlist and download the songs onto your phone or tablet so you can listen to them offline, without having to put the actual file onto your phone. so for vocaloid music you can download albums you like but are missing on there (wowakas unhappy refrain is an example) and import them into spotify, you can also convert youtube videos into mp3s, download them to your computer, and import them, you do have to edit the metadata for these songs manually if you want them to have their title and artist but thats easy to figure out. personally i listen to all of my vocaloid music on spotify and my playlist has about 470 songs and growing, i do use other means to actually find new music to listen to but this is how i keep everything in one place so i can listen to vocaloid both at my computer and on the road with my phone

[@sleepshoo7410]

Thanks for this! I’ve been listening to vocaloid for about a year now but I’ve always felt like I was missing out on something. It’s a bit difficult to get into it if you’re a new fan, but this video helps a lot ❤️

[@MsLovelyLoaf]

On the Apple Music topic, it will restrict you to your location and not allow you to move location without effort and a VPN or the like. You can’t reliably get any songs, much less search for them, as it won’t prompt any results without a link. Essentially, Apple Music is just unusable for any foreign (or marked as such) music so I wouldn’t recommend going through that trouble.

[@Lukeisun7]

Thank you for this! I’ve been getting more and more into vocaloid recently and haven’t found any good guides on how to get into it

[@sprootoveralls1450]

omg i remember vgperson! her channel was my go to! her translations are bomb!!!

[@alex-8736]

Before this channel there was one that did mini-documentals on voicebank but it disappeared. I'm glad I found another informative channel about vocaloid

[@ubnubmaster]

I'm sorry to hear that, that's something I would have watched too

[@radicalizzy3489]

I started getting back into the vocaloid community after a few years. This video is really helpful!!

[@dankoya]

Thank you thank you thank you for this! I used to be big into vocaloid like a decade ago and so much has changed since then getting back into vocaloid and finding new songs seemed so difficult and daunting so this is super helpful

[@adisvara]

From my experience, mikudb is the most convinience way to enrich myself of the vocaloid stuffs. From the simple one like the recent upload that will redirect to either youtube, spotify or niconico. and then to which album or compilation that contain that particular song. And finally the most interesting part, is about what kind of producers is populating each of certain compilation album, and then maybe the circle or label, and even the genre. which is quite powerful for me to understand how the market or the scene in particular or general way moves in each of their way back in their days.

[@hillonhwei]

thank you so much for this. this issue you described at the start was the issue i was having, no one was helping me figure out how to listen to new music lol

[@edsonkagami217]

Thanks for going this bro, its perfect for people who wants to know and introduce in vocaloid. Keep like that. You're a great content creator.

[@noffermans1996]

Great video, as someone who always drifts in and out of the fandom these places to look help. But I also love your point at the end, of not telling in which order to watch. I remember my first song was 'Alice of Human Sacrifice' I still don't know how that happend but so glad it got me to explore more of vocaloid

[@angelpudding3351]

I definitely agree with what you said about your first songs always sticking with you!! I believe that the second Vocaloid song I had ever listened to was SLoWMoTIoN by Pinocchio-P, and to this day, almost two years in the fandom they're still my favorite producer

[@hatsunemiku-4evr017]

This video is a godsend for me and love the videos. Instant subscribe, now to binge the rest of your videos.

[@idananodesu]

Thank you for making this video, it felt like I've got a friend with same interests as mine and I got to know a lot of useful stuff. Gonna check those playlists you mentioned

[@angrywhalewatcher]

This is so helpful. I've been doing my best finding thing through youtube and the games but its not easy. I'm pumped to check out your playlists and thankful to know of an English tab on NicoNico

[@MalligatorXD]

this was so helpful and great timing for me, thank you! recently got into vocaloid through project diva so im excited to find more music and learn about vocaloid more!

[@sofiagustia676]

This is extremly helpful, thanks

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

Hey, a long time Vocaloid fan here. Since 2009. Never heard of Nicobox before. Gonna check it out, thanks.

[@thyrara316]

I think youtube was a really great way to find new vocaloid songs and producer 5 years ago. But with the current algorithm you dont get recommended new stuff. Back when i got into vocaloid when i clicked on a vocaloid song i got recommended new and different songs on the right side of the screen! but now when i click on any vocaloid song i only get recommended the once in my playlist or the once with the most views. and thats only if youtube recommends more vocaloid songs. the search is has also gotten super weird. i wished we had the algorithm from a few years ago again.

[@xDeydeyxtartelette]

I've been into Vocaloid since 2014 and I'd like to share some tips too. - When I first got started, I was really into Len, so that's all I was looking for. I checked for Len songs, Len covers (that I didn't even realize were covers back then) and so on. I used the KZbin search engine to its full potential by refining the upload date, number of views, etc. This is useful to find more obscure songs because if you don't refine, KZbin will give you only the most popular songs. Discovering about just one Vocaloid will make you find new songs, then new producers, etc. - I mostly use KZbin to find new songs and producers. I like to subscribe to any producer's who's song I liked. This way, the KZbin algorithm sees I like Japanese/synth music and suggests more to me. I also subscribe to cover and reprint channels. Sometimes, covers and reprints get more popular than the original upload, so you might miss out on great songs if you skip covers and reprints. However, always listen to the original upload when you can find it to help the producer's music get out there. Also, pay attention to the recommended section, you will find great stuff there. - I also make lots of playlists, categorized by Vocaloid, but also make ''Month x 0f 2020'' type playsits where I put all the new songs I liked. This way, when I have time, I can check back on the songs and the channels that uploaded them. I also keep a favourites folder on my browser with my favourite producer's channels. It's easier to listen back to songs by the same producer this way. My Vocaloid playlists are public, if you're looking for songs to listen. They're not all updated frequently however. kzbin.infoplaylists - Finally, the Vocaloid wiki and Vocaloid Lyrics wiki are incredibly informative. You will find backgrounds on producers, producers with similar styles, lyric translations, etc. I used to spend the whole night on these and learn more and more each day. Hope this is helpful!

[@yoshgurt]

When I was just getting into vocaloid in 2016 or so I only really listened to Miku, GUMI, and a few IA songs. Even though people shit on project mirai quite a bit, it helped me discover the other characters and helped me hear some of the most popular songs from the other vocaloids. As a middle schooler back then having that game on the 3DS was what kept me from never really learning about vocaloid. Sometimes people will give me crap for just being able to play Project Diva this year. I'm glad Megamix and Spotify have been a resource in the last year. I don't think I would of ever gotten back into the vocaloid scene otherwise.

[@97Syahmie]

What I love so much about Vocaloid and the community is how everyone and I mean EVERYONE has their own vocaloid story/journey. We all love the same thing, yet everyone finds them and learns more about them in their own way, everyone almost always has songs that you don't know about at all no matter how into the fandom you are and I love it

[@ubnubmaster]

Couldn't say it better myself

[@cyxx414]

i get so overwhelmed abt the sheer amount of vocaloid songs it makes me quit all the time and then come back for a little bit only to get overwhelmed again

[@lakuronekobaka3951]

Thanks you for nicobox, it's much more agreable to use than i thought!

[@fishyfire7767]

I love your videos, if you take requests, I’d love to see a video about Maretu