An affordable WEB KVM!

[@apalrdsadventures]

Updates: - JetKVM will ship USB-C power/data splitters with the JetKVM kickstarter as a solution to power questions - JetKVM has increased the internal space from 8G to 16G - The ATX or DC Power extensions can also power the device and will also ship with it, although I did not review the extensions

[@BrianPuccio]

4:55 The gesture here is great 🤣 I appreciate you digging into all the details on this product; very in depth!

[@JeffGeerling]

I backed it-I like it as it is, but it would be nice to see how their RJ11 extensions will work (I added a couple anyway to my pledge!).

[@apalrdsadventures]

I'd love to try to build my own once it's opened up

[@1nico517]

I hope the rj-11 splits power out somehow, I saw your community post when you first got it and it's exactly what im looking for currently, but the power shenanigans that apalrd went over aren't too much of an issue for the use case I have for it.

[@nicholasg88]

I am hoping it will allow serial connection to a 4port(or more) KVM for switching inputs as this would also be a decent work-around for only 1 port for power as it would get the power from the 4-port kvm.

[@bgubs07]

@@1nico517 They explained in the kickstarter comments that the DC Power Extension will allow you to power the JetKVM separate from the usb-c.

[@kristopherleslie8343]

Wish it had 1 more usb port and poe

[@basix250]

Jesus christ they really are shipping this to every known homelab youtubers.

[@jammehge]

Makes sense: it’s probably their primary market.

[@chadperry]

Yes and they all say the same thing

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Shocking that a product aimed at home lab customers is shipped to homelab youtubers to be advertised to their audience. Why didn't they send them to any guntuber I wonder

[@JeffGeerling]

@@marcogenovesi8570 It does have a nice gunmetal grey finish though. And it would be fun to see how many fps it would get-out of the barrel of a gun :D

[@johnwalshaw]

Would be great to have PoE and microSD. Could use as an ISO selector even without needing KVM.

[@jetkvm]

We've doubled the internal storage to 16 GB, for all existing and future backers.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

I backed it. I don't often have a need for something like this but the next time I do it'll probably pay for itself in lessening of frustration having to reposition stuff to get the server over to my monitors or try to find a space to sit a monitor proximal to the server.

[@RockTheCage55]

The first time i backed a kickstarter i got nothing so i decided from then no kickstarters for me. I will wait until they have production units out.

[@theglowcloud2215]

the one and only time I backed a Kickstarter, I got a product but it ended up being almost entirely different than what they promised. If you're not comfortable setting the money on fire, don't spend it on Kickstarter.

[@codyrap95]

I once backed a really cheap gimbal for mirrorless cameras and got it straight from China and it still works to this day

[@tomgroth3455]

Only good thing I got was the original Omni charge. That might have been indiegogo

[@Sevenn884]

I went to the ocean, scooped up a cup full of seawater and concluded there were no whales in the ocean.

[@graealex]

I had pledges end in no delivery. I also had pledges take so long as to not be relevant anymore, or the product changing completely or undergo revisions. I also had very successful pledges. It's always a risk, that's why they are heavily discounted usually. You are always free to wait until they ship regularly.

[@drclean04]

Just backed this as well for the price and size it looks perfect for me and my team, thanks for the video!

[@Adm1n0f0ne]

I love the concept. I would love it slightly more with the internal storage being its own 8GB (or whatever size) thing and then having a microSD slot in the back for things like ISO storage, as well as PoE. PoE would be an amazing bypass to the USB power problem, and something you'll likely have in a lot of places this will be utilized.

[@Darkk6969]

POE is actually very hard to incorporate into the design without making it alot more expensive. Maybe future version they will come out with one.

[@Adm1n0f0ne]

@@Darkk6969 Yeah I read about that in one of the other comments. It's still something I'd be very interested in.

[@jetkvm]

We've doubled the internal storage to 16 GB, for all existing and future backers.

[@thenerdshow]

@@jetkvm can you give us a POE option? I would gladly pay more

[@larrythehedgehog]

jeff geerling sold me on the rpi computeblade. im still waiting to get my unit. think 2 years coming up since i paid. i'm done spending money on kickstarter.

[@Darkk6969]

Yeah for Kickstarter, Crowdfund and etc you' d have to expect long wait times for your reward. For my PiKVM v3 and v4 I've waited several months to get mine and it was worth the wait. Now there is another KVM that I've been waiting for over 10 months and still counting. Hopefully will get it next month.

[@AK474000]

POE would go hard with this and solve the issue of relying on the host having the proper combination of power and peripheral emulation capabilities.

[@apalrdsadventures]

JetKVM has decided to ship a USB power/data splitter

[@Darkk6969]

I saw this on a different YT video and impressed what I saw so went ahead and backed 2 JetKVM devices. I would love to see an SD card slot for storage but at this price point I can see why they didn't include it. Maybe down the road they will come out with updated version with more features. The way this little guy is designed I think it's a great KVM.

[@jetkvm]

We've doubled the internal storage to 16 GB, for all existing and future backers.

[@Darkk6969]

@@jetkvm Wow.. That's awesome news!

[@NickBouwhuis]

I'd like to see them move to a model like Tailscale has. OIDC through webfinger with a few ready-to-go options with known auth providers (MS, Apple, Google, Github)

[@apalrdsadventures]

They are doing OIDC via Google currently, just not multiple options.

[@Evan-dp2qp]

You have by far the best review of the device, for what I've seen in my evening of research. You'd dominate (even more than you already do) if you worked a bit on production. Not to say you're not killing it - you are - but the fluff others put into their video productions introduces/widens a subjective gap between what some may consider to be "quality" - mine is content matter for this instance, I think most would agree, as the quality of the review is phenomenal. Hope you take this crit as it's meant to be - positive and hopefully helpful

[@jig1056]

This really looks interesting, I definitely appreciate your review. It's more in depth than some of the others that I've seen and I think I am sold. I was on the fence because it's a Kickstarter of course but then it's another $20 in shipping. But, I do think this looks like an awesome product and it will be definitely useful for me so if I can help bring it in information that's what I'm gonna do. Backing now 😃

[@XtianApi]

There's splitter wires so you so inject power without a whole hub. Also, no bios option to power ports when off? Also, can be powered from rj-11 and poe planned

[@T3hBeowulf]

The KS Q&A seems to indicate that the RJ11/Barrel plug accessory will be able to keep the JetKVM powered. I wonder if that means you're limited to one accessory at a time. 🤔

[@honestgoat]

Hell yeah. I just bought 2 plus the Front panel connectors and barrel jack connector.

[@joaocordeiro198]

they could have added a SD card slot and you would add the extra storage..

[@jetkvm]

We've doubled the internal storage to 16 GB, for all existing and future backers.

[@danbrown586]

I'd appreciate a comparison between this and the NanoKVM--the latter is RISC-V rather than ARM-based, but appears to have a similar feature set and comparable pricing.

[@KeithHanlan]

Casting my vote for PoE instead. Would it actually cost more? I really have no idea but would love an informed answer. Physically, it looks fabulous but for something that is intended to be out of sight, I would rather a flat rectangular front face that could be placed inside a 3d-printed mounting bracket of some sort. Maybe the cost saving could be redirected to PoE?

[@apalrdsadventures]

It would certainly increase the cost, by how much I can't say. One of the challenges is preventing back-feeding power into the PC and also common grounds across multiple places, and PoE would introduce both of those problems into the currently very simple circuit. Isolating the PoE supply is the obvious solution (Ethernet is already transformer isolated on the data lines), but that requires a (small) power transformer instead of just an inductor.

[@KeithHanlan]

@@apalrdsadventures thanks for the explanation! Perhaps when they get this baby launched, they can add a LE model with PoE and more memory.

[@user-ic6xf]

Yea there should 100% be a PoE option. PoE and a full size HDMI

[@BertPdeboy]

looks very elegant and minimalist for its purpose! love to see it! and I do agree on the power remark, this kvm with poe power would be perfect for my use case that is short hands-on with many different systems. "Wait, how is this powered" was my first reaction when the I/O was explained. i wonder how many people actually have the need for a kvm attached a long time of statically positioned use since ipmi chips/cards are prevalent, not to mention virtualisation use exploded in the last 10 years. "adding more storage would add significant cost" I see mentioned, but does it really? I'd have guessed it to cost about $40 based on that statement alone but the backing price is $69 which almost certainly means retail will be higher. Anyway it wouldn't matter to me, nor many other people because network mounting an iso is super easy. I think the "added cost" is looking for a reason where there is none; the designers have a perfectly clear idea of this product and it truly shows in the board design/software/cloud infra. No more storage required. I'm keeping my eye on this product for a PoE release, if it works (and looks) like this in retail I'll be buying 5.

[@Cooper3312000]

I backed this, wish you could do USBC data and DisplayPort not just limited to HDMI but that might be too much to ask for.

[@leeblack2103]

Very nice review!!

[@Chris_Cable]

I'd like to see the ability to mount ISOs from my NAS via SMB or NFS.

[@apalrdsadventures]

it can do ISOs via HTTP, if that helps you.

[@crystalyzzed]

Should have been POE, but still looks great

[@costelsandu7000]

Can you use this to remote controll a macbook pro or like a mac mini?

[@bgubs07]

The company explained in their comment section that the DC Power Extension is what you'll need to split power from the usb-c. Otherwise, you'd have to use a powered usb hub with data transfer.

[@bradleygibson1137]

would be interested in a PS2 Mouse and keyboard compatibility , or a "type approved" usb>PS2 that is known proven to work

[@almc8445]

It really seems like there's a lot of talent behind the project, and they've done a lot well, but the deal breakers: I will not buy mini-HDMI, simple as that... The lack of PoE, even passive, even as an optional probably means I won't get it... Not even a barrel jack so a PoE splitter is possible? If they fixed those I'd definitely be interested. A few other suggestions: Why include a screen at all, let alone such a nice one? - Just unnecessary cost... Use next suggestion instead Use service discovery such as SAP/mDNS-SD. This combo'd with a web app be extremely convenient Powering from HDMI power should be possible? (5v 50mA) Ethernet passthrough - Similar to desk phones, eth in and eth out

[@parajf]

If I connect to home computer and access from outside home, is it possible?

[@ewenchan1239]

It is unfortunate that their documentation doesn't say anything about how you would remotely power on/power off a system via the RJ11 port.

[@geesharp6637]

Can you use a power injector for the USB port so I can get power from the wall and use for K/M ?

[@apalrdsadventures]

JetKVM has decided to include a power/data USB splitter for this reason

[@dasnomadium]

Does it support IPv6?

[@apalrdsadventures]

Looks like almost. Web app is not bind()ing to v6, but I pinged them about it.

[@parajf]

You mean we can connect two or more computers with one jetkvm, or one jetkvm for each computer

[@apalrdsadventures]

One computer per jetkvm, at least without extra hardware

[@derrysan]

I am just confused about how it can be considered affordable or not if it is not available on the market yet.

[@Sama_09]

what is that phone holder !!

[@0HelgeJensen]

Power consumption?

[@RossCanpolat]

Why no Poe 😫

[@nullcorebyte]

nanokvm was cheaper, 46 eur just for the thing (ofc then shipping but for the thing itself. FULL version)

[@Chris_Cable]

nanokvm is closed source and the Software/Hardware come from China. Not a combo i'd risk in my environment.

[@autohmae]

If they are smart, they'll open source properly and things will improve.

[@autohmae]

Correction: looks like NanoKVM did open source a bunch of stuff.

[@subtlelight]

what about power button and reset?

[@apalrdsadventures]

There is an accessory port, they have promised ATX power control via the port but haven't released information yet

[@terryuland6502]

Came here to ask the same thing. Also would be good to have some sort of hardware accessory that could be physically affixed to the computer being controlled to push the actual buttons.

[@okoeroo]

If the jetkvm could mount an smb or nfs, no need for internal storage

[@apalrdsadventures]

It can mount over HTTP

[@JanVokas]

Nice device, but I don't understand why (expensive) display and not POE. I'd rather have POE than the "fancy" display which is useless. LED indicators for usb-c and hdmi. IP doesn't matter. You have this devices in separate VLAN either - so you can discover the IP of the kvm either way(s).

[@Yessurrr]

Did anyone try nanoKVM? I think this is the direct competitor

[@apalrdsadventures]

They don't sell it to US customers, so I won't review it.

[@danbrown586]

@@apalrdsadventures Five of them are currently in transit to me in the US. I obviously can't compare them, but they do indeed sell to US customers.

[@apalrdsadventures]

Sipeed themselves do not sell it on aliexpress to the US. There are other resellers who mark it up to resell in the US, still with CN shipping.

[@Will-hw1pn]

nanokvm is under $100, JetKVM nice features.

[@RobertHibbs-e6n]

Because a powered type a hub doesn’t exist?

[@miha493]

And when LTT publish their video it would jump to 300$ and never be 70$ ever again.

[@EDIIIZ]

NanoKVM PCIe it is for me.

[@carliviris]

Internal battery will be nice for those reboots

[@DigiDoc101]

$20 shipping sucks!

[@jackieboy1593]

It's not terrible if buying more than one.

[@tendosingh5682]

It says $69 on website.

[@joaocordeiro198]

Also, Your discord invite as expired....

[@apalrdsadventures]

Looks like KZbin removed all the whitespace when I pasted in my description, fixed thta

[@Henry-sv3wv]

how much is affordable?

[@CaydenHaun]

Just saw craft computing's video, it's around 70$ I believe.

[@apalrdsadventures]

$69

[@Spans_]

@@apalrdsadventures nice

[@MuffFlux]

Reddit comment about this product that sums up my view on these kickstarter hardware products: "Ooooh, a chance to back yet another hardware Kickstarter that's gotten 10x their goal so far, so they'll outgrow their original contract manufacturer, then the delay will cause some critical components to have to change due to component EOL/sourcing issues, causing 3-4 more rounds of cascading delays where the cause can no longer be accurately predicted because the risks are so high? Where do I sign up for the disappointment of (MAYBE) getting a device three+ years late, that's now wildly out of date? AND THEY LET ME PAY THEM FOR THIS? I CANNOT CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT. Seriously though, please stop doing Kickstarters for hardware."

[@thenerdshow]

why not just give us POE???

[@SecurityDivision]

First seconds of the video - oh, pretty cool! And then the "this is currently a kickstarter product" - k bye thnx, will see you in the next video :)

[@Levent_Ergun]

Meh without ATX control and external power this thing is a hard sell.

[@Rotalus]

I'm tired of this kickstarter bs.

[@chadperry]

Yea, I hate seeing such an incredible device, only to find out it's on Kickstarter.

[@moracabanas]

Not everyone has millions of investment for a good product, at least there are crowd funding for them

[@errolneal9789]

Yeah this is a fantastic looking product. Almost unreal if you ask me so I have some serious doubts.

[@ytdlgandalf]

Hate to say this, but just buy mini pcs with vpro with remote mgmt.

[@christopher480]

Which is exactly why I dont fund things on kickstarter......no guarantee = no money

[@Darkk6969]

I am knocking on wood that all of the projects I've backed so far came through. Just took forever to get them.

[@cocosloan3748]

We all gonna die 😥

[@marcogenovesi8570]

facts

[@adogonasidecar1262]

Dove into details without explaining use cases and value in detail, and glossed over setup way too quick. Typical IT geek unable to explain to non geeks. I realize that some people will comprehend Ethernet KVM instinctively but I am left with not being sure this would fit my specific use case or exactly how I'd make it work...

[@KeithHanlan]

In a nutshell, this device give low level remote access to a computer. You could access a remote computer's BIOS and boot a rescue image, just the same as if you were sitting in front of the computer with a thumb drive. You can have secure remote access in a variety of ways. Consult the JetKVM Kickstarter for details. For example, this device can save you a long trip to your out-of-town in-laws when something goes wrong with your offsite backup server.

[@bnjmz]

To be fair, that is the target audience on this channel (tech enthusiasts) more so than the general public. If he went into very basic details, people who already know those things would feel like it's a waste of time. Can't make everyone happy, I suppose. That said, I'm sure if you have any general questions, others in the comments would be able to help.

[@adogonasidecar1262]

@@bnjmz so that justifies doing a mediocre job? Tech is a means to an end, it's not the end...

[@1nico517]

@@adogonasidecar1262 you could expand on what you're unsure of, nobody can help you understand if you don't communicate what you're struggling with.

[@adogonasidecar1262]

@@1nico517 it's pretty clear... Detail the use cases and deployment scenarios to start... As I've precisely spelled out...