This tiny KVM controls your PC-anywhere!

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

Күн бұрын

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@jetkvm
@jetkvm Ай бұрын
Big thanks to Jeff for the detailed review! Given then immense popularity of the project, we have decided to: - Add a USB-C power/data splitter - Double internal storage from 8 GB to 16 GB This will apply to all backers automatically Thanks for all the support! 🚀🚀🚀🚀
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
And following along the discord and Kickstarter updates, it sounds like they're thinking about a PoE version at some point (but not this one) and have components secured for all orders already, and don't see a hindrance to shipping in December. All Kickstarters are risky but this one I think has a good chance! I also gained access to their codebases on GitHub pre-launch. The cloud api is pretty lightweight - React and Typescript, easy enough to set up but not yet abstracted enough to quickly replace their site on device (they're working on that). All in all, very impressed still!
@kneekoo
@kneekoo Ай бұрын
This looks like a great project. :) After watching this review, my only gripe is the eMMC. As an old time sysadmin I want all storage to be removable, so I can pop another in for any reason (failure, upgrade, etc). With eMMC and no external storage, if the eMMC dies, the whole thing is dead, which is incredibly annoying. Having to throw away a whole device over a faulty eMMC is wasteful. A microSD version would be fantastic.
@roblatour3511
@roblatour3511 Ай бұрын
@jetkvm Thanks - when I saw you posted this I pledged!!
@ashuggtube
@ashuggtube Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling PoE version would be dope
@licanueto
@licanueto Ай бұрын
I can't seem to find any data on power draw. How many watts does this take under normal use ? btw Jeff, this is something that'd be great to see on the devices you test, specially those that are designed to run continuously
@gizlas
@gizlas Ай бұрын
The only thing missing? PoE ^^
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
That's already the number one feature request on their Discord :D
@gizlas
@gizlas Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling good to know. Powering that device using USB, it's tempting to use the Machine you want to remote control. Which most certainly not results in stable USB Power :)
@gabe_0x
@gabe_0x Ай бұрын
Still sane, Exile?
@ChristopherFerguson
@ChristopherFerguson Ай бұрын
Thank you for going over remote gaming... Someday I'd like a networked solution that isn't an arm and a leg that I can use to play my games remotely throughout my home!
@efad3215
@efad3215 Ай бұрын
@ChristopherFerguson Steam Link? Ps remote play for the 4/5s?
@HuskyMoment
@HuskyMoment Ай бұрын
So, premium build quality, well designed software, actually works, while also being cheap? Hope this KVM does well so these folks can expand into more tech stuff that has a lot of unnecessary jank.
@checksum00
@checksum00 Ай бұрын
It will never ship regardless... moving on...
@resneptacle
@resneptacle Ай бұрын
@@checksum00And how do you know that?
@TheoHiggins
@TheoHiggins Ай бұрын
Oh hi loker
@Kane0123
@Kane0123 Ай бұрын
I was surprised it's HDMI, isn't there a ton of licensing issues on that front? I wonder if DP would have been harder in the form factor
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 Ай бұрын
3:03 "I decided to try out upgrading this mini PC from Windows 11 to Linux." I love it when anyone throws subtle shade at Microsoft but Microsoft's earned it with all their recent changes to Windows.
@TechnoTim
@TechnoTim Ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout for my Dark Mode shirt!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
#darkmodeftw
@trojanhorses4760
@trojanhorses4760 Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling @TechnoTim why dont you guys do a collab rating each other's homelabs, that would be nice!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
@@trojanhorses4760 We've been talking. I really *really* hope some of us homelabbers on YT can get together next year. Some fun shenanigans could ensue!
@scottscopters7
@scottscopters7 Ай бұрын
I love it
@blahblahblahblah2933
@blahblahblahblah2933 Ай бұрын
This is looking like a really solid, well thought out project. Thanks for looking at the hardware manufacturing background, I was curious about that too. I hope these things take off.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Taking off would suit the name, haha
@doq
@doq Ай бұрын
"upgrading from windows 11 to linux" 🤣💀
@dmhzmxn
@dmhzmxn Ай бұрын
My popcorn is ready 🍿🍿. Here comes everyone's 2 cents. 😅
@TommyLikeTom
@TommyLikeTom Ай бұрын
I've been on the same install of windows 10 since 2015. When I have to upgrade I think I will just check out
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Ай бұрын
@@zee-fr5kw it's worse than bad...
@Yuriel1981
@Yuriel1981 Ай бұрын
Right! Lol
@Daxiongmao87
@Daxiongmao87 Ай бұрын
@@zee-fr5kw the forced microsoft account is a killer for me. having to jump through hoops just to use a local account every time is frustrating. Their forcing of their own proprietary AI and oblique data collection are also features i do not like. their constant trial at encroaching on user privacy and only backtracking with enough of an outcry is not a good look on the future of the OS. if you like it thats fine, but theres a lot not to like.
@Doctor_MB
@Doctor_MB Ай бұрын
$69 is a very reasonable price for this. Entry level PIKVM is about $125 if you use a $90 Geekworm clone and a $35 PI4 1GB.
@kevinshumaker3753
@kevinshumaker3753 Ай бұрын
I use a Pi3, $10 HDMI capture dongle, and the PiKVM software, and it works well for me. I do want to get one for testing though, for supporting a few friends...
@michaeldmorrison
@michaeldmorrison Ай бұрын
Yeah, even the pispeed NanoKVM went up a bit in price after his review, it's not much cheaper.
@guanche011
@guanche011 Ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with these kvm prices, but my first though was that $69 might be a kickstarter price and thought $120 would be reasonable for GA release. Seems on par with what you list. We'll see, I'm keeping my eye on it.
@cobrasys
@cobrasys Ай бұрын
I think you mean it's a very _nice_ price.
@hw2508
@hw2508 Ай бұрын
@@Doctor_MB but $20 for shipping and an extra $20 for the serial console extension is a bad joke.
@Perspectologist
@Perspectologist Ай бұрын
I appreciate the strong KickStarter disclaimers. I decided to risk it on this. I’ve only used KVM connection switches, so it will be interesting to explore an Ethernet KVM. I hope it ships.
@TradieTrev
@TradieTrev Ай бұрын
It was a long ad!
@iammohanbathula
@iammohanbathula Ай бұрын
Did you receive it?
@Perspectologist
@Perspectologist Ай бұрын
@@iammohanbathula it isn’t expected to start shipping until early December.
@BladeWDR
@BladeWDR Ай бұрын
Honestly this is the most polished web interface that I've seen on any of these. I'll back the project, why not. I still haven't gotten the nanoKVM I ordered, lol. I've honestly been looking for a tiny KVM like this that I can stuff in my go bag. Being able to just plug in one of these when I'm troubleshooting a machine onsite and not having to sit there the server room where it's cold and loud would be a dream.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Now to see which one actually ships sooner!
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah Ай бұрын
I don't necessarily have a use for it, but it's one of the best and most refined KVM projects I've come across
@SOF006
@SOF006 Ай бұрын
I've backed a few days ago, been wanting something like this forever but didn't want to fork out a ton of money. This is perfect for me!
@andreas.grundler
@andreas.grundler Ай бұрын
I backed it on Kickstarter and am pretty confident it will be successful. If not, I have no one to blame but myself. $69 + shipping is money I can spare, and if they succeed, I get a cool new toy for my homelab.
@AklemTech
@AklemTech Ай бұрын
Hey just wanted to let you know that PiKVM has been aggressively removing any mention of downstream devices from their communities. Someone even had their post on reddit removed just for asking if they could run it on their Pi zero. I would reconsider calling them the gold standard with their behavior.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
It's a tough situation for the PiKVM community and original authors - they do have great software, and solid devices, and were pretty much the pioneers in the space. However, as a number of Chinese manufacturers started building their devices with PiKVM software but without contributing anything back, that started to turn the community a bit sour sometimes, because of the 'maker/taker' problem inherent to OSS. TinyPilot also fought a bit in that battle, as they were contributing back stuff, but were also burned-sometimes even with their code being ripped off with all the license headers removed! So I don't have ill will towards PiKVM's behavior, it's their community to maintain after all. I just think having cheaper options, *especially* if those options are on the up-and-up licensing-wise, is a huge win. Before PiKVM, IP KVMs were in the hundreds to thousands of dollars, and required subscriptions. PiKVM brought it down to hundreds, with no subscriptions. NanoKVM and JetKVM are bringing it under a hundred, which makes lights-out homelab management way more approachable to way more people!
@AklemTech
@AklemTech Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Its understandable to have a sour relationship with downstream but their moderation is to the point that, like I said, they're removing even things about people experimenting with their own DIY stuff, someone simply asking if they could run it on a pi zero. Also It's tough because I'm someone who donates a considerable chunk of money towards open source I rely on, but that doesn't matter when I post "hey here's how to upgrade a BliKVM" and I have no community to post it in because it gets removed. The problems surrounding supporting open projects still exist regardless of the way I handle supporting projects I use.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
@@AklemTech That stinks :(
@fairhall001
@fairhall001 Ай бұрын
Reddit mods acting like dictators? Reddit is full of wingnut control freaks.
@ShaferHart
@ShaferHart Ай бұрын
​​@@JeffGeerlingthere's no "maker/taker problem" in FLOSS: that _is_ FLOSS if you don't want that you definitely should think before you release something. PiKVM didn't write their OS from zero now did they? Should Linus Torvalds go after any mention of them in the same way? That's not how FLOSS work. You don't get to make demands on the people who take your software and use it as the license intended.
@juststeve5542
@juststeve5542 Ай бұрын
Interesting little thing, pleasantly surprised by the price. Only caveat for my use is the power. It would be nice if it had PoE or a second power only USB connection or even just a DC jack port, I don't want yet another inline "thingy" adding to the cable mess in my rack like that USB power injector you briefly showed. Just make the thing cubic and use the extra internal space for a DC jack.
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 Ай бұрын
You can always convert Ethernet to WiFi using a router in network bridge mode. The router connects to WiFi and the KVM connects to the router. Also deals with the situation of some switches not supporting 100Mbps.
@samuelhulme8347
@samuelhulme8347 Ай бұрын
Or use an access point, as that’s the actual component that provides the Wi-Fi signal, many home routers are “combo boxes” that combine an access point + router + switch.
@technerd9655
@technerd9655 Ай бұрын
Or there's ethernet to wifi adapters, IOGEAR makes one, I think it's around $60CAD but it's only 100Mbps and Wireless N. But generally speaking I suspect these are likely to have access to ethernet in over 90% of use cases.
@Daxiongmao87
@Daxiongmao87 Ай бұрын
someone is gonna run doom on this
@CyberDunk2077
@CyberDunk2077 Ай бұрын
It has to be done! Didn’t someone get doom working on a pregnancy test kit? lol
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Ай бұрын
​@@CyberDunk2077 Only on the shell of the test. The internals got replaced. If that makes it "it can run doom" you can run doom on everything once you slap a computer on it
@xdevs23
@xdevs23 Ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to this! It's the first kickstarter I'm backing simply because I want to have this and if they actually publish the source code under the GPL, I will be very happy.
@RonLaws
@RonLaws Ай бұрын
I'm actually really happy to see new takes on KVMs, I still remember when even just a very basic plug in KVM adapter would set you back hundreds of bucks and offered very little functionality.
@astacc
@astacc Ай бұрын
Looks awesome.. will definitely grab few early next year once the add-on boards are released as well. wanted some IPKVM for my homelab but the prices just were more than I was willing to spend ~90€ (including shipping shown on kickstarter) sounds like a steal.. now just need to hope they deliver on all the promisses
@Gregorius421
@Gregorius421 Ай бұрын
It's refreshing to see an all around well-designed, innovative product that solves real-world problems. And it's even open-source. This is golden.
@lis6502
@lis6502 Ай бұрын
Honestlly i'll stick to my nanokvm. It's guaranteed to be shipped (else Aliexpress returns my moneys), comes with UART which is pretty useful when you play with SBCs and "atx board" with optocouplers which, suprise surprise, can also serve a purpose on SBC. And i never understand argument of aestethics of device that i see for up to 10 mins before i throw it in my makeshift home lab rack.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
For me, the weight of it and smoothness makes it easier to jam in my bag. I've already replaced the NanoKVM I had in there for on the go IP KVM use. It's very handy to have a highly portable one with a few cables dangling off it to plug in temporarily for debugging.
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Ай бұрын
Its awesome that they promise opensource code from the start unlike nano kvm who just wants stars or sales before making code opensource. I might deffinitly consider one and might support the project
@ledlightingaccessories-led5160
@ledlightingaccessories-led5160 22 күн бұрын
Wow, the JetKVM looks like a game-changer for remote access! Its compact size and ability to control any computer from anywhere is super impressive. Definitely a must-have for anyone who needs seamless control over their devices on the go!
@gabbieblue
@gabbieblue Ай бұрын
cant wait for this to properly release! $20 shipping to the uk via kickstarter is insane but i will absolutely be picking these up once they have PoE
@CoryMT
@CoryMT Ай бұрын
This looks really nice! My NanoKVM should arrive in the next week or two, and the one Kickstarter I participated in gave me nothing in return, so I'll be waiting and hoping for their success. I may pick one up later depending on how happy I am with the NanoKVM. Thank you for putting this on my radar 🙂
@termiterasin
@termiterasin Ай бұрын
That's really cool.. Very high quality build. Reminds me of Ubiquiti equipment which always has a high build quality. You're right about the mini hdmi being fragile. 100 mbit might not support different cable types in the same way gigabit does.
@anadventfollower1181
@anadventfollower1181 Ай бұрын
Love your videos man. You got a great calming voice, and being just yourself is well enough for these reviews and explainational contents.
@perkulant4629
@perkulant4629 Ай бұрын
Yeah I’ll wait till after the kickstarter, don’t like to take a chance.
@michaeldmorrison
@michaeldmorrison Ай бұрын
yeah, already kinda regretting getting the NanoKVM from pispeed, still waiting on shipping and not sure how the software is gonna end up...
@PW-72648
@PW-72648 Ай бұрын
​@@michaeldmorrisonI would just charge back on credit card, easy.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 Ай бұрын
This is so incredibly cool, I need it .. damn Kickstarter. I'll wait for the actual delivery.
@CedroCron
@CedroCron Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Jeff. Definitely hope this project makes it to production.
@Sight-Beyond-Sight
@Sight-Beyond-Sight Ай бұрын
I work in a data center (where customers rent servers or collocate space for their I.T. infrastructure) and KVM use is quite abundant. There are a myriad of options one could think of to add to these systems. On-board data storage for ISO's, cellular/WiFi access, even the idea of having pass-through for video feed so you can have the KVM active along with someone on-site with a crash cart. A great many servers now come with IPMI, iDRAC or iLO (depending on the mobo manufacturer) that is supposed to do the same thing (with a few other features, like powering on a shut down system). It feels like no one option has it all. Many of the systems I work with are still using the 15 pin VGA connection. Having a KVM with multiple input options (maybe modular?) would be their next upgrade.
@criostasis
@criostasis Ай бұрын
They have just under half of their 10k run sold so far it seems. Also a change I noticed and maybe I missed it the other week but theyve started charging the correct shipping price based on country ~$15-20 depends where you are. I think I am going to wait and see. I want to see them actually disclose their code and have a look at it.
@LiveWireBT
@LiveWireBT Ай бұрын
Hence my question about the CVEs. I posted an issue on the NanoKVM issue tracker with EMBA findings. Not that I expected a perfect image with no findings, but ... just look at it.
@PW-72648
@PW-72648 Ай бұрын
It's always better to wait. Let free testers check it, if they even get it 😂
@sebastien79a
@sebastien79a Ай бұрын
PoE would make this far more usable commercially. Backed the project.. may try out a PoE splitter but as Jeff may need to use a board for it unless the RJ11 DC input works (added that too). Looks awesome. I hope it works ok with VGA adaptors though as servers don't have HDMI..
@michaelvilain8457
@michaelvilain8457 Ай бұрын
pledged for 5 units--Shut up and take my money (when you're ready).
@zukaro
@zukaro Ай бұрын
I like it. I don't have any use for it right now, but if I need a remote KVM in the future I'd absolutely consider one of these.
@jroysdon
@jroysdon 27 күн бұрын
Looking forward to this. Ordered 3.
@Yuriel1981
@Yuriel1981 Ай бұрын
This is going to make admining my families home servers for them much easier! Lol Edit: Definitely PoE needed. But a powered USB port on your UPS would also suffice. Also love the Wendel and Techno Tim call outs! Always good to see cross support!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Homelab KZbin is the bestest KZbin!
@Deraco1
@Deraco1 Ай бұрын
thats a pretty sweet little dude! Every time you said JetKVM, I kept on hearing "Jeff KVM" 🤣
@jetkvm
@jetkvm Ай бұрын
👀
@jaykayenn
@jaykayenn Ай бұрын
It's the best kind of KVM; Jeff shows up to reboot your servers.
@Somerandom1922
@Somerandom1922 9 күн бұрын
I'm the lead sys engineer for an MSP and I could absolutely see ordering a few of these. Most of our clients with on-prem hosting are small-mid sized businesses who are mostly running pretty consumer-spec hardware ranging from repurposed tower PCs to cheap rack-mount server chassis. This wouldn't be needed often, but even just in the last couple of months we've had a couple of businesses that have needed us to come out multiple times in a row racking up call-out fees, much of which could have been avoided with something like this where we can access the BIOS or launch hirens or something to troubleshoot issues outside of the OS with our RMM on it. Hell (and this is just wishing at this point), what I'd really love is a version of this with WiFi with just a full-size HDMI port and a USB port. Leave it with the client, then if an issue comes up where we need access without the OS just ask them to plug the USB and HDMI in and we can deal with anything else.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman Ай бұрын
Even if the Kickstarter delivers, unfortunately my experience shows that people buying from other sources the 2nd generation that already has its kinks worked out often get their devices sooner than the Kickstarter backers. Also Kickstarter mostly offers no legally backed warranty. Even if I like the product, I will always wait until I can purchase a product, not *donate* in hopes of eventually maybe receiving something. If they don't have enough money to finance the initial run: get an investor. I am not the Salvation Army handing out donations.
@astral6749
@astral6749 Ай бұрын
This is one of the best kickstarter products I've seen
@nuvotion-live
@nuvotion-live Ай бұрын
I'll be waiting for gen 2 on this one. My excitement dissipated as the video went on. Great review.
@middle_pickup
@middle_pickup Ай бұрын
This looks sick. I really hope they ship.
@maxmustermann194
@maxmustermann194 Ай бұрын
Always-on USB Power is often a BIOS/UEFI feature that you have to specifically activate. Might be worth the time to dig around in the UEFI settings.
@crrodriguez
@crrodriguez Ай бұрын
That is a really nice product..Im still not kickstarting it. will totally buy one when it actually ships.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
A highly logical approach!
@bepstein111
@bepstein111 Ай бұрын
yeeeessss so glad you covered this. been wondering about it since I saw ads on instagram.
@bepstein111
@bepstein111 Ай бұрын
i think it was instagram? idk, maybe it was just ars or something
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot Ай бұрын
Yeah, it kind of blows chunks when it’s only 10/100 Ethernet when gigabit has been the standard for decades. I can live with a usb dongle for power even, but then you are sucking up another ac outlet…however, on a server rack you could use a usb hub and power a bunch of them with that. Lack of gigabit, and now that you mention WiFi….that would be icing on the cake.
@GameDr04
@GameDr04 Ай бұрын
I relate to your choosing to say "upgrade from Windows to Linux." I feel that in my soul.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Linux Soup for the Soul
@digitalsparky
@digitalsparky Ай бұрын
I ended up backing the JetKVM earlier today after thinking about it for a bit. It's perfect for helping the parents from afar etc :P.
@4b978
@4b978 Ай бұрын
Thank you Jeff, I'm buying this when they start shipping
@kc0eks
@kc0eks Ай бұрын
Seems like a neat little device id love a few
@brandon_bates
@brandon_bates Ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning Ventoy, I hadn't heard of it and always use Rufus or windiskimager.
@kettusnuhveli
@kettusnuhveli Ай бұрын
I guess it looks sleek and all but it's so small the moment I plug all the required cables to it, it will slide off the table. I'd prefer it if they offered either a rackmount kit or something that fits in a PCIe slot so it can be placed in a more robust location!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
I think a little silicone sleeve would hold it in place nicely. I haven't had time but would like to design a 3D printable rackmount ear that holds it in place.
@EDIIIZ
@EDIIIZ Ай бұрын
NanoKVM has a PCIe version coming. 40$ atm.
@timotheegoulet1511
@timotheegoulet1511 Ай бұрын
Neat, I’ve been reading up on this kickstarter. If I worked at the old Dat-center/NOC I’d wear two of those.
@Ciph3r_nu11
@Ciph3r_nu11 18 сағат бұрын
A great little thing they could have done is made it magnetic on the bottom and then let you changed the position of the screen. Would allow you to mount it anywhere
@sampletext69420
@sampletext69420 Ай бұрын
3:04 upgrading from Windows 11 to Linux sounds personal 💀🗿
@rakeau
@rakeau Ай бұрын
Honestly for anyone from a tinkerer to a pro, something like this would be better than needing a spare monitor, keyboard and mouse in most cases. Cheaper, more portable, no space to store or transport it .. Very tempting just to have one kicking around.
@Steamrick
@Steamrick Ай бұрын
The 10/100 mbit port has another disadvantage: Mounting any ISO over ethernet is gonna be pretty damn slow. Bad freebie USB 2.0 stick slow. As for the bright future... well you did say it won't have dark mode anytime soon.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
With the 10/100, the other thing is the USB port emulation is USB 2.0 as well, so you're going to max out around 10-20 MB/sec regardless.
@joergsonnenberger6836
@joergsonnenberger6836 Ай бұрын
I've dealt with builtin iKVM solutions that never were able to max out 100Mbit/s with their USB emulation. What are you doing with the emulated CD-ROM that needs so much bandwidth?
@andreas.grundler
@andreas.grundler Ай бұрын
My Internet connection has a maximum upload speed of around 35 Mbps. That's all the DSL line can handle. Even at this speed, I was able to use IPMI solutions on external servers without any problems or signs of lag. 100 Mbit/s in the Homelab is more than sufficient.
@PW-72648
@PW-72648 Ай бұрын
They still buy it 😂
@chrisdixon5241
@chrisdixon5241 Ай бұрын
Looks like a nice device and the price is pretty good. Shame there is no PoE :( I guess that would have added extra cost, and maybe will come in a v2 if things go well. In the mean time, I'd probably hang it off a powered USB hub to resolve the issue of PCs that cut power to USB when they shutdown in that case
@ottermanuk
@ottermanuk Ай бұрын
The aluminium case and screen seem a bit redundant but the actual kit looks decent. PoE [and a boring simple rackmount like you say] and it'd be perfect
@crystalyzzed
@crystalyzzed Ай бұрын
Change aluminum alloy for polycarbonate, remove touch, add POE and full HDMI port
@sailorgreg1184
@sailorgreg1184 Ай бұрын
PoE would be awesome, but mini HDMI is actually a deal breaker for me
@vwestTube
@vwestTube Ай бұрын
I don’t play games but no audio? Oh, I think I’ll buy it anyway, doesn’t cost that much….
@optical_ideas
@optical_ideas Ай бұрын
Oh wow, this might be the most beautiful kvm i've ever seen. +1 for the Lenovo tiny on your desk 😜 i do have 4 of them representing my homelab with proxmox, docker, nas and stuff like that...
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
They're great little 1L PCs!
@Nobe_Oddy
@Nobe_Oddy Ай бұрын
I think $70 isn't too bad for slick, high quality KVM like this... it's got a touchscreen for cryin out loud!!! lol And the software looks pretty dang good do! Disappoint about POE, 10/100, mini-HDMI, and NO AUDIO .... but they aren't deal breakers.... KICKSTARTER MIGHT BE THO.... well for a lot of people it is... I think I'd go for if I was in need of a KVM of this caliber... but I'm not....
@PW-72648
@PW-72648 Ай бұрын
This hardware feels like a beta product as it is
@fujinshu
@fujinshu Ай бұрын
I'll happily buy a bunch of IPKVMs if they support multi-management in a single interface, which the JetKVM has partly done by allowing you to manage all of your JetKVMs from a single account over the web.
@Cybernetic_Systems
@Cybernetic_Systems Ай бұрын
I’m impressed by this device and the price. I’ve pre-ordered for one my Plex Server.
@sammcj2000
@sammcj2000 Ай бұрын
100mbit Ethernet is a show stopper - many 10gbit and 2.5gbit switches don't support them and it's too slow to load ISOs
@superangrybrit
@superangrybrit Ай бұрын
I don't need such a device but this is top notch. Wow! 😎
@Sqaaakoi
@Sqaaakoi Ай бұрын
I've seen other people cover this before, though this video shows the limitations of the device very well. I want to know, is the lack of audio a hardware issue, or is it just not implemented in software yet?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
I believe it's a hardware level limitation... I don't think the CSI lanes can accept audio, but I'm not 100% sure of that.
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 Ай бұрын
That's what I wonder, too. This has to be a software problem, because hdmi transports audio as well...
@Sqaaakoi
@Sqaaakoi Ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerling That's a little bit of a disappointment, but it isn't a deal breaker.
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Oh, if it's connected over CSI, this could be an issue. But why would you do that, if you can simply connect it using gpio and software? The CPU must have plenty of power for that. The hardware encoder acceleration should be another step.
@festro1000
@festro1000 Ай бұрын
definitely sounds like something I will be keeping an eye on though I'll probably wait until after kickstarter; I've been burned too many times on early access products, even when they offer an enjoyable first experience (namely games).
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Getting burned on a Kickstarter is like the tech enthusiast starterpack
@festro1000
@festro1000 Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling yeah, but when you're a tech enthusiast on a shoestring budget, kinda hard to justify splurging even $69 on something that might not even show up.
@niv8880
@niv8880 Ай бұрын
I'll be keen to get my hands on a few of these.
@hackthis02
@hackthis02 Ай бұрын
Where did you get that USB-C PD splitter @ 3:29?!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
From BliKVM on Aliexpress. Note that JetKVM will be including one with all units now
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas Ай бұрын
This seems surprisingly good for the price. I'm surprised by how well developed it already seems. So, what's the catch? Also, USB power while system is off, is often a BIOS setting.
@efad3215
@efad3215 Ай бұрын
The catch is needing to figure out how to provide power while the remote pc is off. Also, afaik, no VPN/internet access yet, only intranet
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Note their cloud service is already up and running and works well, if you are happy with that. The other thing is this is a device built by BuildJet, a YC-backed startup, so they probably invested some of their funding into the project after they realized it would be popular in the homelab/sysadmin arenas.
@michaeldmorrison
@michaeldmorrison Ай бұрын
Easy enough to use a wall wart for power, have plenty and wouldn't take up much room in my racks power strip, it does just seem like a better pispeed NanoKVM, though that one has the MB pins for a tad cheaper.
@efad3215
@efad3215 Ай бұрын
@michaeldmorrison No dedicated power in though
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas Ай бұрын
@@efad3215 For me, being able to input power via the RJ11 is good enough just gotta figure out the pinout since it's not in their current documentation.
@jfseaman1
@jfseaman1 Ай бұрын
I like it. PiKVM is "expensive" even DIY NanoKVM is no ship JetKVM is wait So, I'll wait.
@checksum00
@checksum00 Ай бұрын
That will never ship lol
@affieuk
@affieuk Ай бұрын
What do you mean about "no ship" for NanoKVM?
@jfseaman1
@jfseaman1 Ай бұрын
@@affieuk I don't believe NanoKVM will actually ship if I order it. Just my feelings. Nothing about the "pre-order" process seems "smooth" and the price jumped as soon as Tubers made vids.
@vinod.mishra
@vinod.mishra Ай бұрын
@@jfseaman1 I have had mine for 2 months and it works well. Not sure where you are getting no shipping from.
@jfseaman1
@jfseaman1 Ай бұрын
@@vinod.mishra Cool. Is yours one of the first batch? I'm old by "computer" standards. Don't over react. Delays, price rises and some other things. Just a "feeling" based on years of experience. I am usually an early adopter but sometimes I don't get what I ordered or the product was misrepresented. So...
@kritikusi-666
@kritikusi-666 Ай бұрын
$69 is not bad at all. Nice review. Thanks JEFE.
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 Ай бұрын
Darn... For it's price this is a way to awesome I must say! As I understand, USB is required only for the power, aka you can just connect it to your charger instead of relying on the PC it is connected to? Also, as others have said, PoE would be awesome for such device. Thanks for the video!
@jetblackstar
@jetblackstar Ай бұрын
I've dreamed of making one of these since 2002 😂
@CameronVanNatta
@CameronVanNatta Ай бұрын
I will buy one when it releases for sure!
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 Ай бұрын
" _upgrading_ Windows 11 to Linux." I see what you did there. And I approve!
@baylinkdashyt
@baylinkdashyt Ай бұрын
Here's a specific thing to look for: even if the USB it's plugged into has continuous power, 1) does that hold up across a reboot, and 2) if not, does the unit carry over a short power drop without resetting?
@spoonikle
@spoonikle Ай бұрын
I need this so bad! please JetKVM please come to market🤞
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 26 күн бұрын
I hope they succeed. I have already stocked up on traditional KVMs though.
@ascot4000
@ascot4000 Ай бұрын
10 Mbps ethernet is a bit of a barrier to me as some of my infrastructure does not go below 100 Mbps. The bottom rung of ethernet is slowly being dropped as adoption above 1 Gbps becomes more common.
@eugenekostjuk7181
@eugenekostjuk7181 Ай бұрын
DIY PiKVM on RPI Zero2W costs 30$+ATX control.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
A worthy option!
@EagleMitch
@EagleMitch Ай бұрын
The other important note with NanoKVM is I had placed an order back in July and still not received it even last week. SO, I opted to cancel that order and try jumping on this one. I think this will be way better in the long-run anyways!
@the_beefy1986
@the_beefy1986 Ай бұрын
Not a huge fan of the cloud remote control feature. From a security perspective, I'd rather it just not be present. The target audience here likely already does their own thing for remote network access.
@grokknar
@grokknar Ай бұрын
They've stated on their discord that the cloud feature software is also OSS - so you can run your own. But all it really does is mediate a direct peer to peer connection from your browser to the KVM.
@ischmidt
@ischmidt Ай бұрын
Yeah, the inevitable reveal that these are cheap because it's stealing all your data is gonna be funny.
@jetkvm
@jetkvm Ай бұрын
Hey! Other than the API being open source, it is purely an opt-in feature hidden in the settings. So, no need to enable it if you don't want to.
@DAVIDLIFUHUANG
@DAVIDLIFUHUANG Ай бұрын
We have already made equipment for advanced IT needs such as IP KVM. However, due to the slight difference in size, we cannot use the design of standard HDMI cables. I have no way of understanding whether this is something wrong. The current small-sized IP KVM gives me the feeling that it is redundant or excessively designed to reduce the size. In fact, all IO ports only need to be laid flat on a flat surface. If you really need an OLED display panel, It is also possible to put it on the upper cover of the flat body, but the usage rate of this OLED display panel is also very low. Instead, I would rather give me a Micro USB-shaped serial console that is more practical.
@krisclem8290
@krisclem8290 Ай бұрын
I imagine this is really great when paired with a normal kvm that supports hotkeys for switching between hosts.
@the_str4ng3r
@the_str4ng3r Ай бұрын
I was super excited about this while watching until I went to the kickstarter and saw that wired network is REQUIRED. Most of the devices I have around the house are, as you guessed it since I'm watching Geerling video, various Pi's/Linux devices, almost 100% of which are connected via wifi with no RJ45 ports near by... If this device had wifi built in with its own power supply, I'd be in. I was literally on the kickstarter ready to back this for 5-10 JetKVMs, until the level-headed part of me said "Just confirm if wired is REQUIRED, before committing". Sadly, I'll only be backing for one (I do have a device in my mechanical room attached to router) instead of a bunch. Definitely a big missed opportunity by the devs, imo.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
I hope after this campaign succeeds (I hope they can get 'em all shipped!), they will work on a PoE version, and a WiFi version.
@the_str4ng3r
@the_str4ng3r Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Wholeheartedly agree! Even if having wifi capability pushed the price up to 200% ($100-125 give or take) I would have pledged for a good handful of them.
@mofoq
@mofoq Ай бұрын
I hope more ipkvm projects would add power-isolation as an option (not grabbing power from host but using "aux power") and yes, I have one of those blikvm usb-c power splitters 🤣
@Genesis8934
@Genesis8934 Ай бұрын
8:11 is that the usb input for power? If so, if they can't find a way to get poe on the board, they should consider switching that DP/HDMI and USB port so you can make a dongle that plugs into both and receives power from a poe input lol edit: 11:10 "Free cloud option" uhhhhh. Privacy? D: Something-something "If it's free, you're the product!"
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
The nice thing is you don't need to use their cloud integration at all (it's buried deep in their settings menu, it's not even mentioned during setup).
@fastabst
@fastabst Ай бұрын
this is next gen kvm, looks so fresh, if write drops by a lot that would be great
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot Ай бұрын
People who ask why you need a kvm at the hardware level instead of using Remote Desktop, probably should NOT be using kvm in any capacity as it means they also do not understand security,
@PW-72648
@PW-72648 Ай бұрын
That kind of people will buy it anyway as it is for now 😂
@kchiem
@kchiem Ай бұрын
It looks like there ought to be room to put a full size HDMI port on it. And since it's HDMI, sound should be possible..
@michaelhuss0
@michaelhuss0 Ай бұрын
It's using a hardware decoder to receive the HDMI signal. If that decoder doesn't support audio... Fortunately, since it uses USB, they could emulate an audio interface there.
@johnsimon8457
@johnsimon8457 Ай бұрын
Supervisory control like this across an entire rack is definitely a “separate the men from the boys” kind of feature for enterprise
@VelcorHF
@VelcorHF Ай бұрын
The ui looks great. There are a lot of quality design touches on these units. Hope they deliver on the kickstarter.
@flandrble
@flandrble Ай бұрын
the usb splitter is perfect for fast charging your phone when connected to android auto too if your headunit has poor usb power output.
@smcurro
@smcurro Ай бұрын
can it transfer files to and from the computer being controlled?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Ай бұрын
Sorta, through disk image mounts. I don't know if they'll add in any capabilities like Magic Wormhole, for direct file transfers. But that could be interesting too!
@smcurro
@smcurro Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Thanks for the response!!
@sourcilavise3788
@sourcilavise3788 28 күн бұрын
I see you have a GMTEK N100 mini pc I guess ? Don't you have issue with it overheating ? When I use mine to do light Windows 11 works, I often feel the PC kind of locks up not because CPU is at 100% but because other components are too hot and the motherboard just locks everything. I already changed the thermal paste to MX-5 but still have some issue with it.
@DanTDMJace
@DanTDMJace 5 күн бұрын
Suggestion: Use Linux
@sourcilavise3788
@sourcilavise3788 5 күн бұрын
@@DanTDMJace I'm already on Fedora but I wanted a mini PC to do some specific windows stuff that I can't do on Linux.
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