Perfect Pitch VS True Pitch

[@DeltaInsanity]

The real difference is that people with perfect pitch don't need to think about the answer, they just hear the pitch and instantly recognize what it is. It's like when you see the color red, you don't need to think about it, you just know it's red. People with perfect pitch are like that with sound, which unfortunately people with true pitch can never really get to that point.

[@Niro_sounds]

Dunno about that, like you said, it's similar to learning the colors. I think with years of practice and retaining the interest you would have to pick it up naturally.

[@Aledharris]

@@Niro_sounds nah, it’s a skill only babies develop and they can lose it later on retaining only true pitch.

[@DeltaInsanity]

@@Niro_sounds I wish that was true but that's unfortunately just not how it works. The color example is great to understand how perfect pitch works for people who have it, but you can't "learn it" the same way. If you could, music schools would have classes on how to develop perfect pitch (sure you can find some online, but they'll never really work).

[@Niro_sounds]

@@DeltaInsanity They don't work if you don't practice!

[@Niro_sounds]

@@DeltaInsanity You should look into how babies perceive pitch, it's similar to language and so that's why perfect pitch is commonly misconceived as something you're born with. I think people don't realize how much their early years can have an affect on what kinds of things eventually become instinctual. Even babies had to learn it. Regardless of how you try to view it, it's still a conceptual thing that is turned instinctual through adaptation. The baby still had to be taught what each note was, regardless of what they perceived it as. Similar to how the baby would have to learn the specific shade of a color. I'm sorry to break it to you, but practice really does make perfect. The only thing that makes someone a "natural" at something is their genetics, which change slightly as we adapt. When your past generations have practiced something for years, your children will have an easier time to adapt because of your work. I hope this can change your understanding of things around you and how much more capable you are than you might realize. It takes time to learn things, especially if they weren't something we were interested in when we were young.

[@onesyphorus]

_"Do you have perfect pitch?"_ _"Nah, I just play the guitar a lot"_

[@eboyeman8457]

What does that mean?

[@EricLeCrennSanchez]

It means you’re probably like John Frusciante, and you practice out of tune a lot, and when you play with others you just kind of bend to what the right note sounds like.

[@onesyphorus]

@@eboyeman8457 E B G D A E

[@wowza9078]

The dooo

[@ricoF71]

@@EricLeCrennSanchez 😂 LOL! Maybe that's why he sounds so good and kinda weird at the same time! But does John F really does what you say? If he does, then he's twice as good, because he could get away with it, and got world-famous! 😁

[@conestack]

"alright lets begin." *" E "*

[@yukiko_akiyama]

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[@manamemajeff6283]

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[@KydLives]

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[@jnmarshmello2728]

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[@oscargill423]

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[@oppy2510]

People noticed I could pull any pitch out of thin air, and now all my friends think I have perfect pitch. But it always took me a second or two to identify the note and my "perfect pitch" didn't feel real to me. Now I know why. Thanks!

[@remzy6534]

you just have a very strong relative pitch

[@wirag4680]

@@remzy6534 and pitch memory!

[@wiltisdabest]

@@remzy6534 it's not really relative pitch. Sure you could argue it relative to your memory of the sound, but it's not relative to an external source.

[@oscargill423]

@@wiltisdabest And that's what true pitch is. Pitch relative to a remembered note.

[@solitairius.]

@@wiltisdabest ask a "true pitch" person what note two cups hitting each other make.

[@ballsacksologic1108]

I learned something, Nathan hates being interrupted

[@oliverkmusic7525]

Hey I think I worship you

[@ballsacksologic1108]

@@oliverkmusic7525 yes brother, together we will take over the world

[@charlieparker4928]

@Keanan_ I’m right here sir

[@omeismordaunt6224]

@@oliverkmusic7525 worship christ

[@kentosalazar]

I learned his name is Nathan

[@DevoutChristianHunter]

I think we can all agree that his new haircut is amazing

[@mogmason6920]

Sorry, but I’d rather the Afro than the “Pauly D”

[@Saxologic]

I miss the fro but I don’t miss the extended shampooing and conditioning lol very tedious if you wake up 10 minutes before class and realize your hair is not presentable at all so you either walk in looking like a hobo or choose to be late. Lose-lose

[@oldchannel5697]

Nathan: Screams out of frustration William: *That's an E flat*

[@benjaminelkin1122]

Just learned that Nathan is one of the most stubborn people ever.

[@sarahwelively7506]

Lol im a musician but I don't know how to play by ear so if someone plays a random note I just assume its C. 😂😂

[@Saxologic]

That’s all you need lol

[@ubergamer0198]

Do. Any note can be Do. C C# D Eb E F F# are all Do, in different keys. That's Relative pitch. You need this to get to true pitch

[@gianmarcoerrico8784]

@@ubergamer0198 what?

[@angelapenac]

@@gianmarcoerrico8784 What @UberGamer 01 is trying to explain is movable do.

[@natecentral5389]

1 in 12 chance man, I’ll take those odds

[@douglashay8626]

Hey man, you're pretty good at the saxophone

[@Saxologic]

Pain (thanks though)

[@douglashay8626]

@@Saxologic much love ♥️

[@davidgorsage9688]

There’s always that one person with perfect pitch in every choir and band

[@chrisfusion6945]

I know a girl with perfect pitch. She likes to challenge people to play notes and chords on there instruments so she can tell them what they are. She hates me. Why? because I'm extra. For example: the first time I decided to be extra with her challenge, I played Cmaj13(#11/add9). Another time, I did D#ø7(#9)/A

[@Khazoumi]

i love this kind of evil HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@URAZKIVANER]

when you have doubled notes it is difficult even for a computer to tell the difference because of the enharmonics. That A on the bass would mess up anybody since it already is in the chord on a higher octave ;)

[@Khazoumi]

@@URAZKIVANER after your explanation, i laughed so hard realizing the depth of its evil XD

[@dancraig_gev]

Never been this early but I’m not complaining..

[@YippF]

Same

[@SasquatchPJs]

True pitch is more impressive to me. Perfect pitch is like someone French speaking fluent French... congrats? 😁

[@andrewhamel1]

i mean it's not like you're born knowing the pitches you're just born w/ an attuned ear to know the difference, you still must study music

[@ricoF71]

@@andrewhamel1 I so agree completely... It is like someone who needs to really study how to paint or photograph with composition estethics and understanding on how to capture and transfer the mood...not just by only knowing the colors. In a musician's case outlook, it's not enough just knowing the notes. But it's one helluva good start! If not perfect, that is! Me so want Perfect Pitch.

[@Jeeoo]

@@andrewhamel1 neither does anyone born knowning a language. You also need to learn it. Things accomplished late in adulthood as well as things accomplished without special conditions are more impressive because, people have to work for them harder. They are achievable but, still rare.

[@SasquatchPJs]

@@Jeeoo my point.

[@joewell6435]

The way I understand it is no one is born with perfect pitch, but you have to have a certain gene to be able to develop it, and you can only develop perfect pitch early in life and only with the correct conditions, so it's really dependant on your parents to create an environment that nurtures perfect pitch. I've also heard that you can develop perfect pitch that's off, for example developing perfect with on a piano that's out of tune, making everything that's in tune sound off.

[@TheCobraKing78]

Now imagine William against Eddy from Two Set

[@NowhereMan5691]

Eddy has true pitch too.

[@thelambsaucee]

@@NowhereMan5691 perfect pitch*

[@NowhereMan5691]

@@thelambsaucee He said he learned it

[@thelambsaucee]

@@NowhereMan5691 it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t have to think abt what the note is. You play a note and in an instant he knows what it is. That’s perfect pitch.

[@uhh4312]

@@thelambsaucee he does think, just faster than this guy

[@randimator9881]

True pitch obviously is the superior version of perfect pitch

[@derekskinner5026]

No, synesthesia is!

[@drummar_boy]

@@derekskinner5026 Oh, yeah. I don't have synesthesia, but I feel like that would be really cool to instantly connect a note or tone to a certain color. If I'm correct in that's how it works?

[@derekskinner5026]

@@drummar_boy Yes! That is correct!

[@aixide]

@@drummar_boy I'd just like to add synesthesia can also mean associating letters and numbers to colours.

[@derekskinner5026]

@@aixide yes! It comes in so many obscure and amazing forms!

[@NicHasegawa]

Non-saxophonist bassist is happy to see two videos in the same week! William was ruthless 😂 Gotta say that William might’ve been faster, but there’s a beauty in working for something as oppose to have been given something. Not knocking on anyone in anyway, but it’s still amazing how you learned True Pitch and that’s gotta be worth a million points 👏👏👏

[@buss3796]

Seeing a word begin to form as your mouth moves and William just getting it immediately is hilarious. Every time

[@danc.5249]

I’m starting to try and learn true pitch and I was wondering how long it took you to get really reliable with it? So I know what I’m in for ha

[@trumpetplayerdude9838]

Depends how much you practice it. You have to really work it, but it's probably gonna be months before you have it

[@Saxologic]

I’m not sure! I started feeling like I could do it during my junior year of highschool so maybe by year 5 of playing?

[@thedamndiz2343]

@@Saxologic check this out. I started playing 🎺 freshman year when I was 14. Loved the motherfucker from the first time I was able to play a constant note. When it would be time to tune up, i couldn't tell shit!!! Am I #?? Am I b?? 👂 Just wasn't working. Then one day right before junior year started, those bitches (my ears) awoke and like instantly, i could hear pitch in everything!! People would go to the piano and play note and I'd call em out within a second, correctly each time. Made transcribing really easy and more enjoyable. Sorry for the long rant.... Reefer. 🥳🤭

[@gamingguitarist6927]

@@ORCINUS Were you born with it or did you practice a lot? I have been practicing for months and my perfect pitch is kinda decent, I seem to have a lot of trouble hearing notes in songs, but I'm good if it's just one note

[@JoelPianologistico]

I developed "absolute ear" in2 year myself. But at the first year It felt enough good. Relative (intervale recogniction) is fine too. But absolute ear helps you find easily the key u are playing/hearing

[@danieltriana1937]

"Perfect pitch can be perfect... but it never we'll be true". -True Pitch Gang

[@altrogeruvah]

I was just like the right guy in college. Tested out of Ear Training and teachers downright ignored me during Solfege lmao

[@bordersw1239]

I’ve met quite a few people with perfect pitch. It can be a blessing and a curse - try playing with a baroque orchestra or rock band where they are tuned to A-415 or just about anything the guitar player likes!

[@onesyphorus]

They can't chill to Dilla Beats sadly :(

[@Saxologic]

Hahaha

[@oscargill423]

Eh, you get used to it eventually.

[@ricoF71]

I have a genius guitarrist friend who's really good at playing music. He even learned the keyboards by himself after I urged him that it's one of the most enjoyable uncomplicated musical instrument available, although he once hated it and tought that it was the most frustrating instrument ever. (Most of my guitarrist friends thinks so too) But, check this out, this friend of mine never realized or didn't believe that he's got Perfect Pitch, until I convinced him! After a few test here and there, it was confirmed...he's got perfect pitch 👌!!! a BIG WOW!!! Although I found out that it actually never did or just does no affect at all, to one's creativity for composing songs. I guess maybe that ability is probably not connected between them. Although I DO know that there are SOO MANY things I can accomplish if I were to have the privilige of owning a Perfect Pitch. Coz there's so many stuffs going on in my head, where a simple rhythmic trigger can become a song that can even build up to an orchestral composition if I wanted to... this has been going on since childhood... My problem has been always getting those ideas out of my head and make those melodic notes and symphonic composition become reality. I envy and feel happy at the same time for people with Perfect Pitch. Me want one.

[@husnainali-gn8bo]

Well for orchestration stuff I think practicing audiation and playing what you hear on your instrument might help

[@ElectroMonkE]

Just throw a quarter on the ground and ask him to play the note on the piano. If he gives you the : Wtf look, he doesn't have perfect pitch. If he instinctively tries something, you're allowed to cry.

[@tmsleaks4393]

I wish i had perfect pitch bro😔

[@christopherallen5603]

I'm someone who had to develop my ear over time and from my experience- people with perfect pitch can identify notes in their head begin to falter with it especially if being a vocalist because the first time their voice changes, they spend zso much time drinking their own Kool aid they don't understand the physics behind what's needed to sing in key and continue doing so day in and day out. Most ppl who sing flat do so from simply not moving enough air which depends on several factors in the body outside the ear. When you're like me who spent enough time fighting with pitch control to get to the bottom of it and figure out how to train my body to keep that required supply of air in my lungs to stay in key throughout vocal passage lines along with not tailing off flat at the end.

[@MrPianoMan]

I prefer true pitch and relative pitch. It's a learnt skill instead of something you're just born with. True pitch is like learning a language (later in life), perfect pitch is like speaking your native language.

[@Cirque-du-Filet-Mignon]

I learned perfect pitch as a child and i dont like that because it's a skill people can acquire with no training, it seems like the easy way out but it isn't, you need musical theory knowledge and practice.

[@v0idptr]

you're not born with perfect pitch, I have it and i learned it when i was around 12. it doesn't just come naturally like that

[@oliverdiamond6594]

perfect pitch is like looking at 18 and having to say what number it is. true pitch is like looking at 36/2 and having to say what number it is.

[@МаксимХайрун]

You actually got all the single notes right, just not so fast, as Williams did! I think, you can get closer to perfect pitch, if you try really hard.

[@mika4moon]

It was quite fun at first, then I felt sorry for the tp guy. Then, I realised he too was actually quite quick to get the correct notes. Pp guy was just wasy too quick, you can see its his homebase. With Tp guy, I see hardwork, passion and determination. With Pp guy, I see true talent, a part of his being and purely existing. I was amazed by Pp guy all the way through. I felt sorry for the Tp guy first, then and immense respect. Both of you are amazing!

[@lejames5987]

There is also another test where you are asked to sing the notes of a chord first before checking it on the piano. I saw that on Rick Beato's video. His son Dylan also has absolute pitch. But I am as impressed with true pitch as with perfect pitch. Kudos!

[@l.j.2917]

oooh yeah!! dude you totally won by 2222 points!!!

[@Saxologic]

;)

[@saxjonz]

I like how you put this. My mind is at ease now. I think that was called perfect relative pitch when I was in school. Not sure but…if we slip down that slope deep enough, while paying attention, I believe we all become acutely aware of sound but those with perfect pitch are just aware of it? I dunno. I think eidetic memory isn’t much different.

[@southpark5555]

Saxlogic ------ you are still good. Very good. Let's put it this way ----- you're a lot better than a bunch of us that don't seem to have that sort of ability.

[@maddiepaints8670]

xD it kinda bothered me that the perfect pitch guy was getting it so quickly and made me feel bad for the other, but I’m pretty sure they’re just as good as the other, because they both got the same answer, but tbh I i think i might have perfect pitch :0

[@bobblues1158]

You guys are cracking me up so much. I have done the same with a friend with perfect pitch and the result was pretty much the same.

[@user-li9vq8hw6p]

I love the fact that true pitch is a reliable pitch. Sometimes KZbin can be an amazing place!

[@JackHagar]

I think there’s some degree of variance with perfect pitch. One test I think is pretty good for measuring that is to ask someone to sing a note and to have a hidden tuner to see how close they’ll get. If the have some form of perfect pitch they’ll get close no matter what probably but some get closer than others.

[@JackHagar]

@@jamesthegooner Agreed

[@Med_Onc]

I was wondering how temperament, in particular on a piano (the current standard being equal temperament), plays a role in perfect pitch or “true pitch?” I have done some work trying to obtain a better ear (poorly I would add) and when I hear some major 3rds they just seem slightly “off” which I assume is a result equal temperament. Can someone with perfect pitch detect these slight differences? Are the tones embedded in the brain of these musical anomalies’ in an equal temperament? (Seems unlikely?) Are they more bothered by these imperfect intervals or are they so small they are mostly just ignored? In addition, when playing a wind instrument like sax I assume the pitch can be bent so the intervals are exact with respect to the key a piece is written, the same would obviously be so for a violinist as well. Does the player do this either knowingly or subconsciously? Also do you have any input on using any of the many apps available or other methods to improve pitch and interval sense? I have no desire to learn perfect pitch but just interval and chord identification is a real struggle when you are starting from square one and you really feel lost most of the time. I play almost exclusively classical piano but you have actually inspired me to try and take up jazz and improvisation and I realize these skills are required. Thank you.

[@stephenweigel]

Absolutely. (I’ve got perfect pitch and work with microtonality, so it’s easier for me to hear small differences). If you want to work on things like that you can try using synthesizers to play, say, the difference between just and equally tempered chords

[@jan_Masewin]

I think perfect pitch gives you an edge on intonation from the beginning (e.g. you don’t drift). But beyond that it’s all learned. Experience is all you need to tell 3rds from different temperaments apart.

[@RafaelCarneiromusic]

I think this test was flawed in one fundamental point. in a earlier video about true pitch you mentioned that you hear the notes in the saxophone and immediately know their names because of their particular sound and when you hear a different instrument you imagine the sound of your saxophone, so there's a bridge there. To me the fair test was to have you name the notes played by a saxophone or even have the keyboard being set to the sax sound. Later on you can work with each instrument separately to develop the "true pitch" (to me it's all absolute pitch in different levels tho haha) in all the sounds :)

[@cjgreen4331]

This video had me rolling the entire time, hilarious

[@taibaldridge70]

i’ve never clicked on a video so fast

[@artmeatj6620]

Honestly true pitch is just as good as perfect pitch. They both still got all the answers right. Rarely was there even a difference of more than a second.

[@jasonyoungblood9359]

For that guy not having perfect pitch, he's doing really good!! I've been trying to develop perfect pitch for like 10 years now (I know you have to be born with it) because my band director in high school had it and I thought it was an awesome ability for someone to have.... This guy is pretty damn close to having perfect pitch though. :)

[@derekskinner5026]

You do have to be born with the ability to have perfect pitch, but true pitch, yes, you can learn how to identify it fluently.

[@Moonwizard420]

@@ORCINUS You do have to be born with it. That's the point. You just have good true pitch or relative pitch.

[@derekskinner5026]

@@Moonwizard420 Yes. Correct!

[@mariacarmojorge2284]

@@ORCINUS how did you got it? What exercices?

[@uraharakisuke5305]

@@ORCINUS you have developed true pitch, not perfect pitch.

[@ernst-filipmichel9744]

4:02 Metroid intensifies

[@MAlexRamirez]

Love your videos man! Trying to do the same slowly but surely but much inspiration comes from you so thank you!

[@ehrenromblon5392]

Just a theory but I think as an adult, having relative pitch will actually make it more harder to learn perfect pitch (if it's possible) because the brain will instead recognize the already known intervals instead of focusing the note's colors. Not sure if this applies to true pitch too tho.

[@coconuts1483]

You can not learn perfect pitch

[@soywho9837]

@@coconuts1483 stop gatekeeping .-.

[@coconuts1483]

@@soywho9837 ? It is not an acquirable skill. It’s crazy that hurts your feelings.

[@soywho9837]

@@coconuts1483 theres no scientific proof that it's not acquirable. Also, I get easily offended by realists i cant help it

[@coconuts1483]

@@soywho9837 give me an example of one person who has done verifiably.

[@d3ia]

There might be something with you playing in eb as a sax player and him playing concert. I know I have to spend an extra moment converting from how I'd hear it on a saxophone to concert

[@Saxologic]

Yeah I do have to transpose which is a lil annoying

[@mo8239]

Exactly the same with me. I have to think.. If someone plays B on piano I immediately think of Ab. Then I have to transpose it

[@GabriTell]

I have actual Perfect Pitch and can identify every note, but William (and even Nathan in some) is way faster than Me... But to be fair, I've never taken Music Classes (excepting school ones years ago) and I started to learn the notes a Week ago.

[@AdamHallacher]

i have true pitch for my voice so in middle school i convinced everyone i had perfect pitch ahahahahaha

[@rainydeestar]

Sometimes, hard work cannot beat talent, that's the truth

[@13579hee]

@@jamesthegooner exactly and tbh perfect pitch means NOTHING if you don't know notes of a piano. Just imagine how many people have perfect pitch but they don't know it. What is is doing for them .......nothing

[@МаксимХайрун]

Looks like this true pitch is timbre dependent, so probably you would be able to hear notes played on sax much faster.

[@bontrom8]

I had that experience. As a trombone player my true pitch had to be relearned when I started playing a larger bass trombone.

[@thehoodedvagabum7375]

Are ya winning son?

[@LA-fr4gp]

Both perfect snd true pitch are very amazing

[@timmycompositor]

True pitch is waaaay better than perfect pitch, considering that you actually lose perfect pitch

[@RohannvanRensburg]

Are you here from Neely? 60 years of having a superhuman gift is hardly "worse".

[@richardshipe4576]

I disagree. Non-musical ears deteriorate as well.

[@DJDadonik]

@@richardshipe4576 I disagree too, training does not deteriorate, sadly not only you will lose perfect pitch but also it can be really annoying. Imagine someone with perfect pitch completely messing up with baroque music because was written at A=415Hz. What happens if we change it again?

[@wiltisdabest]

Unfortunately you lose true pitch in the same way. Which is interesting, they must act on the same mechanisms.

[@turnleftaticeland]

It’s impossible to be actually “born with” perfect pitch when the western scale is a social construct. I think perfect pitch is just true pitch developed really early on in life.

[@henryprice7817]

I literally don't know if I have perfect or true, I'm getting all the notes like half a second after the guy with perfect pitch

[@christsservant5472]

So, perfect pitch peoples can just recognize the pitches at a faster pace. They don't have to think as much as people that learned perfect pitch later in life. I used David Lucas Burges's perfect pitch course course in my early 20's. I guess I have "true" pitch because I can recognize these tones but I am on the slower side.

[@user-li9vq8hw6p]

Man I admire these 2 pitches!

[@sambrady4916]

love the vids nathan! lol this is sam blanco!

[@kevinp4323]

So, Is Eddy a true pitch gang?

[@Mellow985]

eddy has perfect pitch so no

[@osaze2708]

@@Mellow985 he learned it so at might be a true pitch

[@benadams8224]

Idk but I think he learnt in about at high school??

[@theghattlings8995]

@@benadams8224 key difference- he learned he had it at highschool, he didn’t learn it *in* highschool

[@kirjian]

@@theghattlings8995 naw, he's said he learned the skill in high school, that he remembers not having it. I really don't think you're born with it either

[@olakolade6656]

Nice smile Josh!

[@SaxophoneSteveKortyka]

🤣You’ll always have smash bro’s, Nathan ❤️ great video - interesting to see the time difference 🤔

[@Saxologic]

That is true, Smash bros lives on!

[@Fabian0257]

I learned all notes 2 years ago because I realized I had F, Bb and Eb memorized and I wanted to see if I could learn all of them. I still can't hear notes from the first octave so do you think this can also be learned? Can you identify those notes?

[@GabriTell]

If we start from the general definition of "Perfect Pitch", anyone who can name any note without reference has it. Anyway, this is too shallow a definition, as Perfect Pitch comes from the unusual cognitive ability that endows the person with an extraordinary Tonal Memory (at least compared to most people, many animals have even better one). From a Perfect Pitch person's perspective, learning & remembering note names is as easy as learning colour names. That's why a Perfect Pitch person can say the name of the note almost instantly. For us, it's as simple as learning & naming 12 shades of Colour. ✨🎶

[@PopovSB]

When you sing phonemes corresponding to the sounds of your saxophone, I can clearly hear them in the sound of your sax too. Could you record a video where you play each of the 12 notes separately and sing the corresponding vowels?

[@jasonyoungblood9359]

This is like my 4th time watching this video. This video was totally made for me!!

[@williamcarrmusic]

I'm William too and I have perfect pitch too lol

[@cynicaldrummer286]

4:10. Hahahahaaah. I didn't get any.

[@bwmfstutz9962]

😂😂 love these videos man

[@captainuniversalart3796]

Question. Can you have an underdeveloped perfect pitch? You recognize pitches and can replicate them with ease but have no classical musical training to associate them with. I'm 23 and I finally embarked on solidifying my understanding of music theory to help further my music production. I was able to "wing it" surprisingly well and worked amongst other trained musicians who were surprised I could adapt and learn so quickly. I guess to summarize, can it be similar to knowing the colors, tones and values as well as their Harmony with one another but never leaning their names or any "theoretical" established applications of such concepts.

[@Jamzamurai]

what you’re describing is what’s known as relative pitch. i have it too, it’s kind of like a muscle you can train. having a good ear helps a lot with it, but basically being able to hear something and associate the proper sounds with it based off its “color” is something many musicians develop over time. doesn’t make it any less impressive, but perfect pitch is more like “that doorbell rang and it’s a C to an F” relative pitch is like hearing the doorbell, realizing you can play an fmaj7 underneath it and from that deducing it’s a C and an F

[@chethanposanipally2124]

“hey man your pretty good at the-“ pitch

[@andrewdang2902]

At 4:37 does he say G E or G D bc I swear that note is a D or im tripping.

[@zacksima8333]

My time was exactly the same as the perfect pitch guy but I can’t tell pitch if it’s not piano/orchestra instrument range

[@Helio_Asou]

I don't know what do I have. I can identify single notes just as fast as perfect pitch regardless of the instrument, but when it comes to chords I need to think a little bit to tell exactly which chord is, and the more complex it gets the more time I need. I get the color (major, minor, diminished, etc.) really fast tho. About intervals... I get those fast but not fast enough. I think about them as separate sounds cuz it's easier for me, then I calculate the distance between the notes.

[@insidejazzguitar8112]

Very entertaining. I am truly impressed with your relative, or true pitch

[@torizzz3vr222]

When that one friend needs every condition to match in order for him to win

[@emberdrops3892]

In this duel, I'm Josh

[@falls2180]

Great smile Josh

[@justabot27]

*ARE YOU WINNING SON?*

[@zack01598]

Today I learned: - I have true pitch, not perfect pitch - I'm still faster than saxologic 1:12 (lmao, I had to put that timestamp somewhere)

[@TheMadFoxes]

That’s the dichotomy; true pitch is a difficult skill to master, but very impressive! Perfect pitch on the other hand *isn’t* a skill and isn’t *difficult* We’ve got our true pitch friend doing his best, and we have our perfect pitch friend just telling us the note because it may as well be written down for him because the notes sound different enough from eachother

[@TheMadFoxes]

P.s. I’m not dissing him when I say perfect pitch doesn’t require skill or real effort by the way; from my understanding of it, calling his perfect pitch a skill would be analogous to calling our ability to name the color of the shirt someone is wearing “on cue” lol The same way a blue shirt just looks different than a red shirt, a C just sounds different than a C# he’d also probably be just as confused if he misidentified the value of a note, as we would be if we misidentified the color of a shirt

[@s7ai]

That's hilarious and educative at the same time

[@Kelarys]

What a valuable lesson, no matter how much you practice you will never be as good as someone who has natural talent and doesn't have to try at all. Hurray.

[@beluwuga]

4:16 *EMBARRASSMENT INTENSIFIES*

[@tallscreengabbo]

This was a super close battle...

[@Saxologic]

You are close to me

[@turnup2048]

watching this made me realize i have perfect pitch lol

[@JakeBerryMusic]

Lol same!

[@JoeARedHawk275]

How do you not realize you have perfect pitch? Didn't you ever hum or something and noticed that you hit all the right notes?

[@96ordinarygirl]

@@JoeARedHawk275 Personally I grew up not knowing too, bc I thought everybody could identify notes they hear and I didn’t know perfect pitch was a thing until I joined a school choir when I was like 13 😅

[@rodrigoappendino]

2:04 It seems that sound takes longer to travel to the guy on the left.

[@sleevman]

PERFECT PITCH VS PERFECT PIZZ

[@kofiasumaning896]

Hey mr saxologic, so I’m planning to play dolphin shoals in a concert next year but I don’t have a backing track. Is it possible for you to send me the one you used, if so I’ll be extremely grateful

[@jacobbrockert6953]

Do you have advice to get better at knowing chords? I am a pianist who after a few weeks of training I can get single notes in around 2 seconds now and just root chords like C, F,G Am but if they are inverted or like Ab my brain takes forever and freezes any advice?

[@merc8460]

Hey what about doing a video on the sax solo from Living in America. Please

[@dakedres]

I have the same shirt William is wearing in this video

[@kindasomthing2508]

As a william with a friend named nathan happy for the william dub

[@Ougagagoubu]

That's like guessing colors when you're colorblind against a normal seeing person... "That Tomato is red." "OMG HE IS SO GOOD"

[@emmaalyson13]

🤣😂 Stuart was trying to go along with the video too but he also has true pitch instead of perfect

[@ronenrozenberg8742]

Lol I have perfect pitch too,and I named the notes just as fast as William,it was fun :)

[@incognitoburrito7458]

Does anyone else get a feeling of deja vu when you hear a note or chord? I know I’ve heard it and even played it before, I just can’t quite get the answer

[@cyomara89]

Hey nathan, just wanted to check up- has your brother (and anybody else you've coached) gotten true pitch to your level?? i seem to have not progressed too too much, even though i've been doing it a couple months, and just wanted to see how others were faring. cheers man!

[@RohannvanRensburg]

As much as this is entertaining, I've seen a lot of weird insecurity about this online. "I'll never be as good as someone with perfect pitch", "Oh you wouldn't want to have it cause you might lose it (Neely even did a video about this)". One is a cool and extraordinarily useful gift with a timeframe on it, the other is a learned skill. Neither makes you a more expressive or skilled musician in and of themselves.

[@beter7886]

hey saxologic, I've had a tenor for over a year now, but I'm getting an alto on the Christmas. Which instrument should I learn true pitch on?

[@sengroagers1111]

both

[@Sully365]

A weird thing about saxes that has helped me is that every note before altissimo has a certain tone.. so i can tell when someone plays a D.. i just can't tell what pitch it is... Just that it's a sax playing their version of d... Or c# or Eb... Or whatever. I have zero ability to tell the pitch, only that it's a specific note on bari, tenor and alto. Soprano seems to be too different

[@nicolaslofgren]

You’re getting a second saxophone after only a year of playing?? Well learn true pitch on the horn that you want to play primarily. You need to choose a main instrument that you want to become very familiar with, because that’s what true pitch requires. That being said, the different saxophones do have a distinct sound on their respective Ds, C#s, etc. The next step is just to hear that sound from the sound of a piano for instance, and convert that pitch to concert pitch.

[@beter7886]

@@nicolaslofgren Thanks! And my parents are getting me an alto for Christmas (it was suupposed to be a suprise). Is it bad to have multiple saxophones after only a year of playing?

[@bordersw1239]

@@Sully365 . That’s called ‘relative pitch’ - pretty useful if your playing multiple instruments.. correction - it may be called ‘tonal memory’- personally I think it’s a mix of both - I have it - on flute, all saxes and clarinet. Tends to work the rest of the day for most other instruments.

[@frankmendozaesparza4668]

It was so close just 3 seconds off

[@giggy4321]

I don't even have a saxophone or any instrument to use for true pitch so I am listening to a guy playing saxophone on KZbin :>