An amazing camera (except when it's not)

recent quirky camera pickup, the Sigma DP3 Quattro. It's incredible. Just beware of all the usual Foveon sensor quirks.

[@CianMcsweeney]

patiently awaiting their full frame foveon sensor

[@snappiness]

I am watching that news like a hawk. I love that they are keeping it alive.

[@AngeloRyanMaalat]

They said they aren't giving up and neither am I 😤

[@zahariastoianovici8590]

I hope they will bring a full frame camera and some really good lens, small and crystal clear. I am thinking for this as a street photo camera… hope is the focus 😊

[@aryankhan1985]

Yep , X 3

[@aryankhan1985]

Foveon

[@asmcinn]

I can hear the resale prices climbing 😢

[@nikytamayo]

They're already too high.

[@snappiness]

I do wish they were lower. There's not a lot of them out there, and they are good, so the price jumps.

[@Chris-ey7zy]

I have two of these. The 2 and 3. Color is out of this world

[@tovopro]

@@Chris-ey7zywhat are the differences between the two?

[@m.s.g1890]

Yeah, because everybody wants a camera that's lousy over 100 iso

[@chrismofer]

Foveon was such a great idea, so filmic to layer the color filters. Lovely images! I hope the technology comes back some time

[@CianMcsweeney]

Hope they can perfect it, images from cmos sensors need so much work in editing to look good, would be great to get great colors by default

[@cjhmoors]

I'm so in love with this camera's! I accept every quirk they have.

[@amermeleitor]

That's love!

[@eatswodo]

I’ve had an sd Quattro for 4 years. I’ll keep it until it craps out, and then try to find another one. I love the clunky old thing, purely because it makes me work for the shot, and when it works too, the results are just magic.

[@RedMediaStudios]

"the lens is high resolution"

[@lorenzobiondi5727]

You simply have to love sigma for constantly putting out concept products into the market: both the quattro and the fp series were amazingly creative. I ended up with nikon for practicality reasons, but these weird bois have a special place in my heart

[@crazybut_true]

You can’t use it cus u no sigma

[@GP7shorts]

Sigma camera 💀 🤫🧏‍♂️

[@dylancblue]

What would a beta camera be then?

[@tkk0o]

Happily shooting ISO640 and 800 on these. Chromatic noise can be alleviated via detailed post options in Sigma's software. 'ISO100 only' is a common misconception with this line of Foveon sensors.

[@gtjack9]

Am I missing something? ISO 640 is fucking dreadful

[@crongl]

These are pretty awesome. I have one of the original DP2's, and also had a DP2 Quattro come across my work desk about a week ago. I think the best way to think about them is as if they're medium format. Similarly slow, but also produces quite the unique image, just as a medium format camera would!

[@wubbsy]

I first saw these recently on Pixabay when I filtered for cameras. Very interesting cameras.

[@chuckmoser9662]

I have an SD Quattro. It has the same limitations as the DP3 Quattro but I can swap out lenses. Using fast high quality lenses is an absolute must. It's a challenge to shoot with but when it hits, it hits.

[@thedarkslide]

Fast lenses = shallow depth of field = waste of a Foveon sensor that allows to show insane amounts of detail IF you have details in depth of field. I recommend shooting all Foveon cameras on a tripod, set them to ISO 100, cable release with long exposure times and closing down to maximize for depth of field.

[@Kevins_Camera]

I Really want to try one out, great pictures my man.

[@andremertens]

Got recently the dp2q and although the iso 100 sometimes is anoying, the image quality and fun to use always win. ❤

[@melody3741]

Iso 400 used to be considered high-speed lol

[@andremertens]

Indeed!

[@jshell]

I have the dp0 Quattro and learned to treat it as a specialty camera. I mostly use it for landscapes and it just absolutely shines. It’s my digital XPan / digital 6:7 medium format camera for a fraction of the cost. A killer camera but not an “everyday carry” camera. I wouldn’t mind if they release a new APSC version. I don’t need it to be full frame. I just want a Foveon body that can take L mount lenses.

[@saturatedodin476]

It looks pretty cool and I like that.

[@s.tunafish]

I just checked prices and compared them with the ones from a few weeks (because of another video about it) and they sky rocketed like I've never seen before.

[@brushie.photos]

Got the dp1 from Japan, super nice to have in Central Texas when it's sunny 90% of the year for keeping it at ISO 100.

[@EveryTongue]

That thing is a work of art in itself ❤

[@shapesinaframe]

i have all 3x DP Merrills, same deal with them: slow af, battery hungry and hella noisy above 100iso. great for B&W, essentially 3x monochrome sensors

[@singsingmei]

It's amazing how it still looks so futuristic even today.

[@Ildskalli]

You would've lost that bet 😜 I always wanted a DP0, but the prices were almost always outrageous, and when it was cheap (a brief window many years ago) I didn't have the funds ☹️

[@bot25x]

Most Beautiful camera I have ever seen.

[@RobertLeeAtYT]

The reason why the ISO is so low is due to the unique sensor structure. It has no Bayer filter. Instead the R, G and B sites are stacked vertically, very much like film. The problem though is that the bottom layer now actually receives very little light.

[@uncertainrelease]

I got an SD Quattro H last summer, it's such an incredible camera. Very specialized, not versatile for one bit. But when it hits, oh boy does it hit.# (If you're curious, it's basically an APS-H version of the same sensor inside your DP3, but with an SA mount in front of it (yes, the removable hot filter is still there. This is the best camera for IR photography as you can put the filter back in in seconds and it's a mirrorless camera so you see through the EVF what you're shooting with a full spectrum + IR filter setup !)

[@surfsuplukeasmr]

When is the sigma rizzler coming out? Might have to fanum tax tbh

[@charlessands6933]

Except for all the problems that other cameras don't have, I love this camera. 😉😉😉

[@gundamaction1201]

I have a friend who is obsessed with the sigma dp line of cameras. They all had the same issues mentioned in the shorts. Frankly, I think the image quality alone is not enough to make up for all the other issues. Also the battery performance of these cameras ate horrible. I guess this is fine if you really love that specific sensor. But dont expect anything more than shooting landscapes or anything that is still. I heard some use this to do product shoot as well.

[@christians.9058]

I have a Sigma SD15, the fine drawing is incomparable.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

Not a big fan of fixed prime lenses cameras. The DP series is nice, and the sensor are awesome, but I would rather put my money in the SD Quattro cameras. Had a SDQ-H for a little while, and it's a litteral beast. too bad they are quite pricey and rare now

[@jordylaforge3522]

The SDQ is a beast until you want to shoot red/orange/yellow, or unless you want a pocket cam for the day. This is why I've kept the DP3Q and DP3M. The SDQ is definitely the best designed camera I've ever used though, what a tank!

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

@@jordylaforge3522 Honestly, the SDQ, or any Foveon cameras in general, CAN'T be used as primary cameras for (almost) anybody. They are cumbersome, generally require a tripod to shoot, have limited dynamic range even compared to 15 year old APS-C DSLRs. BUT. As a side camera to use when you want to slow down, have absolutely gorgeous colors and pretty much unmatched image quality until you reach medium format (albeit with a sharp lens) : those cameras are unbeatable. The best second camera you can wish for imho. Your second system should give you something different otherwise it's just more of the same. (also, the SDQ can remove the hot filter just like the SD1/SD14/SD15 except it's a mirroless, not a DSLR ! do for IR photography it's the best camera out there as you don't have to permanently alter the sensor to do a full spectrum conversion !)

[@JoeDorn]

Have a SD Quattro H and love it. The noise over ISO 100 is real though.

[@chris24hdez]

I’ve missed the foveon tech!

[@daviehudson4270]

Had a dp0 for a long time with fixed 14mm lens, then an sd Quattro

[@argentik82]

As user from EOS 5D I'm perfectly accostumed to take my time with slow processors... So it looks delightful. (it's shape resembles to a 6x9cm mamiya film charger)

[@fatepone]

sigma moment

[@AMTunLimited]

The colors are gorgeous, I don't even mind the slowness, but not being able to get usable pictures above 100iso is a HARD sell for me

[@dbmeo3417]

As a non-pro camera, what it can offer far outweighs its shortcomings. Those colors and details are magical

[@samk2407]

You underestimate my camera nerd power level. I very much remember the sigma quattro 😂

[@DrumCobra]

Looks nice, but the matrix noise is killing it.

[@free_re_fells]

One of these days Sigma is going to get it right. A great body with their tack sharp lenses will be unstoppable.

[@heartshapedfilms]

Ergonomically sound as a horse, I remember you could.also get odd colour shifts with them it's like they work amazing in this perimeter if everything is perfect. Though would be cool if they made an L mount version

[@Capturocks]

Made for macro, pictures looks like the good phones camera

[@TheOgreKingdom]

I love these cameras. I regret not buying the set off him from a colleague before he quit where I worked.

[@ricbattaglia6976]

Perfect camera❤

[@SUPERDASHPRO]

"this is the best camera i ever used" "But everything is slow"

[@maxwellwellmax878]

Sadly Im old enough to have seen alot of Old Digicams lol

[@trektaco]

Oh I remember this camera!!!

[@kevina.600]

Yea I’ve never seen it because I always sort prices low to high and never get past page 3 😂😂😂

[@trashgaming3510]

Link to get that camera?

[@lidge1994]

I'm pretty sure the compactness of the camera beats the noise and slow AF for some people. Just depends who wants what out of their camera.

[@MrJohnvalenton]

I loved that camera and the older one.... they should release that same camera with new technology and new write speeds. Those write speeds were so bad because of how big the files were.

[@OutRAjious]

they need to update it now to make the best camera … address it’s shortcoming with new tech

[@felicitykassie]

Is it good for portraits?😅

[@FineW_TurboM111]

The lens is high resolution? THE LENS? And the Sensor puts out good detail?! Bro you got it so much reversed

[@TimelapseKing]

I use a Sigma DP2, I'll wait until the fullsize foveon comes out.

[@photohiker81]

i wish there would be a micro four third camera with a foveon sensor....

[@DrWakey]

Bet lost. I own a dp2 Merrill, but the quatro is still on my list to get!

[@roboblog]

Ergonomic is on high level

[@jasonandrews7355]

Oh come on now, I watch Mattias Burling 😉

[@khalifazhari010]

erm what the sigma

[@israeldavila27]

This thing sounds like it was meant for a tripod if it is adding an unnecessary amount of noise after ISO 100

[@numbersix8919]

I done seen that there camera. It's built like a bank vault and weighs about the same!

[@rickson50]

Looks like it's from the 1980's with they wear and tear plus it's general shape

[@FrankyFeedler]

An aps-c 20mp sensor made by Sigma providing "unparalleled detail". Tell me more.

[@FrankyFeedler]

@volumetric9454 Good information, thanks!

[@IM-ic7rr]

Everything its slow but images are amazing

[@trainsarecool190]

I don't think I've ever even shot below ISO 100?! Good thing I like noise

[@jordanhunnicutt2328]

Erm what the sigma

[@Tekrel]

Tried to get one a few years ago was way too expensive

[@thompsonevergreen8006]

still is

[@snappiness]

Yeah :(

[@DesoloZantas]

It's almost like they should work with Sony on building the perfect camera. The Sigma's images look better than Sony's but Sony's cameras work better than Sigma's

[@DynamicPhil84]

I'm a big fan of the Sigma FP and have wanted to check out the Quattros mainly out of pure curiosity. But I'm kind of wary now if you are saying that they can't take reliably good photos when ISO is over 100, which is kind of ridiculous... Anyone else think otherwise?

[@Rudyalfons100]

Is it apsc?

[@tovopro]

Right after watching this, I took to Ebay and just bought a DP3. Is the DP3 the best upgraded model? Or is the DP0, DP1 and DP2 each unique???

[@snappiness]

The DP0, DP1 and DP2 are all the same generation, just the different focal length lenses. Enjoy!

[@tovopro]

I fell down the rabbit hole and ended up buying the entire series (all 4 of them). 😅 Some of the most unique point n shoot experience ever!

[@larsm.4400]

Saw it before, many times … what do i get?

[@gdjaybee742]

You have a new microphone? or a cold? You sound different.

[@BackSwamp_Outdoors]

Sigma camera🍷🗿

[@itsjustpizza]

I mostly use a DP1x

[@LoFiAxolotl]

I have the DP3 and DP1 at home... i really like them but really over 200 ISO the images just.... yeah Foveon sensors are dead for a reason

[@andreasschroder7880]

You lost your bet. How much do I get?

[@HelamanGile]

I thought it was cool wanted to buy one then saw the price

[@aoasupply2197]

Every month is a new old piece of shit that specialize in one good thing lol

[@adden2242]

That never ever arrived here in the Philippines.

[@smith507]

Looks really similar in ergonomics to Zeiss’ ZX1. What happened to the camera?

[@snappiness]

I see the Zeiss every now and then used. Still like $4k though, and this channel doesn't have that kind of budget yet 😂 that $3k Pixii used that all up for this year.

[@Subzerowins]

Well it depends on the price, how much is that ? If it’s cheap it’s worth it

[@soup5344]

Sigma's cameras are so strange for....maybe 2 good reasons

[@martagalanoficial]

“This is one of the best cameras I ever used BUT, ISO sucks, AF, sucks… 😂

[@taylor1038]

I appreciate the crazy camera design. Camera design has become as boring as phone design.

[@fellowcitizen]

#FoveonForever

[@froggdomain]

so what is it good for?

[@Rebelnightwolfe]

I'm going to guess a price. $1800? Niche cameras like this always have a ridiculously high price with compromises.

[@zach1835]

Me out here comfortably shooting 10k iso on Canon and Sony systems without any need of denoise

[@avebave6550]

We, what the sigma?

[@seantomlinson3320]

Goofiest designed camera I’ve ever used from my rental.

[@RagingBubuli]

Sony is developing a variant of this.

[@jestonyaguilar9069]

oh I see a Pixel 6. btw I love my DP1Q

[@MeAndCarKeys]

Does it also shoot video?

[@paulmenard7400]

the previous one did i think, and it looks alot like vhs from what i remmber...

[@Coppersulfate9009]

There’s a reason they’re a lens company not a camera

[@joiscara7191]

Biggest mistake was buying a Sigma Quattro H. I took care of the camera, no tomfoolery, and the sensor is fried, probably overheated. Now, I have a metal brick with a 21mm ultra wide equivalent lens collecting dust. 😢😭

[@snappiness]

Oh shoot! Sorry to hear that!

[@brianshort7944]

Looks like a Sony Vaio product

[@av.punk.801]

I think it's a cashgrabby gimmick camera with a bad sensor. I'm sorry, I love low ISO, I shoot on 50 and 25 speed film regularly. But a digital camera needs more range than that, I'm positive they marketed their design failure as "film like photos"

[@bluberblasenroller]

Did you just bake a cake, before filming this video?

[@Station9.75]

Can’t you shoot XPan on this?