An Earnest Plea to Roman Catholics

Does Rome represent the true catholic faith? What is the testimony of the Bible and the early church? Christ Presbyterian Church examines the claims of the Roman church and points viewers back to the Jesus of the Bible.
0:00 Introduction
3:41 The Unanimous Consent of the Fathers
23:22 Is the Pope Catholic?
46:57 Sola Scriptura
1:11:13 The Holy Catholic Faith

[@RoyalDiadem91]

These kinds of videos showing the transparency of history are much needed, it would be interested also to see if I may add a video maybe addressing popular RC apologists like Trent or some on the orthodox side? Thanks for your efforts!

[@ancientpathstv]

Our two most recent videos on this channel are actually on Eastern Orthodoxy. 🙂

[@RoyalDiadem91]

@@ancientpathstvthank you !

[@culpepper7665]

These videos are actually pointless as much is misconstrued or ignored, cherry picking what seems to make his case. The maker of this video is a big fan of James White. James White debated Trent Horn... in which he failed so badly that afterwards he had to make another video explaining how to "properly decide who won the debate". Pretty cringe. I personally do not know who is right... but I have learned to trust no one source such as this video. Every point in this video will have at least one counter point equally convincing.

[@rexpaden9509]

​@@culpepper7665 My friend, if it is unwise to trust 'one source such as this video', which you've labeled an example of pointlessness and cherry-picking (without evidence), why do you get to take 'one source' at face value in the Horn Vs. White debate? Does that not seemingly contradict your unbacked issues with this video?

[@rickcampanella4254]

​@culpepper7665 Jesus never started a state run religion. Jesus wasn't catholic and Mary never prayed the rosary. Catholicism has been a lie from the very beginning. I watch video after video and research both sides.

[@TheSMEAC]

This is a mighty fine and full throated plea for those in the RCC to repent and believe the Gospel.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@ancientpathstv]

You might also enjoy this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLTnYqPjauceaM

[@joshuadonahue5871]

We must pray fervently that God has already unchangeably and eternally decreed that the some of those whom he has already eternally decreed to be Catholics will turn out to have been elect the this whole time

[@savedbychrist504]

Excellent video. I am a former catholic, and found truth only when I began reading the Bible - something I had never done in my 49 years of going to catholic mass. I like this video, because you explain all the heresies of the Roman Catholic Church in a very logical and non-insulting manner, so I would show this to my catholic family. Thank you!

[@jmjaquinas7298]

That is so sad that you never read the Bible outside of Mass. You were wrongly catechized. The Church has always encouraged people to read the Bible every day. In fact, Catholic priests are required, at minimum, to read Scripture at least 5 times a day.

[@kabuuj3400]

@@jmjaquinas7298 I am former catholic too but is not exactly how you said. Catholic can read the Bible, yes but with catholic interpretations. If passage tells that blood is red but Catholic Church tells that blood is blue so you must obey catholic words. You must blindly follow catholic interpretations even if it contradicts the Bible. Otherwise you are call cultist. That is sad but true.

[@SAHOVNICU]

Is the Bible Alone the only authority for a Christian?

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

@@SAHOVNICUonly Sole infallible authority for the Church. Any lesser authority for the Church must be based on scripture.

[@SAHOVNICU]

@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Using the Bible Alone as your sole authority, where in the NT does it tell me which 27 books are supposed to belong in the NT, chapter and verse please. The Table of Contents are not inspired.

[@TheManseHen]

Greetings J. Your Mrs Shared this link with me on the OPC PW's list. Well done. I enjoyed this presentation! Mrs F of San Francisco OPC (-:

[@eclipsesonic]

Very well-researched, presented, documented and delivered (just like your one on Eastern Orthodoxy). I really hope any Catholics who have or will watch this video will really consider what you have to say with a open heart, because I like to think that some of them will be convicted by what you have said and will believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you! Lord willing, we have a video coming soon on Patriarch Cyril Lucaris, the "Calvinist Patriarch."

[@Mergețipejoscaesanatos]

Outstanding, brilliant and Thank you. I am taking notes.

[@philiptecson6354]

Thanks and God bless

[@rybojames4111]

Excellent video, thank you for such a valuable resource of concise and well explained information.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@Mergețipejoscaesanatos]

The best video on Catholicism. I'm addicted to your programs. They are like spring water to my soul and brain.

[@tomtemple69]

I have found one of my new favorite channels The time and effort put into the very thorough research for the videos is spectacular 🙌 God bless you brother in all that you do, as Paul says ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ [7] I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; May we imitate Paul as he imitates Christ

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@orwellianpepe7660]

@@ancientpathstvyour videos about church history are really gold standard.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@orwellianpepe7660 Thank you for the kind encouragement!

[@haemstah]

These 'earnest appeal' vids are really good. Food for thought.

[@alanam9103]

I am an ex Catholic.. Left in my teens..Thank God!

[@dewman7477]

Planning on doing the same as former Catholic. Would you mind joining Bible study group on discord?

[@joelanturk6280]

@@dewman7477 Hello! I am a Calvinist who was well educated for many years in a RC high school. I'm not familiar with Discord, but I'd love to join an online Bible Study. Did you start the Bible study already & if so, where... Discord? Cheers & God bless you and yours! ✝

[@dewman7477]

@@joelanturk6280 I didn’t start Bible study on discord but I joined one.

[@ClauGutierrezY]

What a great video. God bless your integrity and diligence.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you! You might also enjoy our latest videos on Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@davidstockman3362]

Excellent. Confirms all the reasons I reject it as heresy.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you. You might also enjoy our most recent videos on Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@DavidNicholson101]

Dang, so much for Martin Luther being the first man to make a stand against the Catholic Church. My RC family member says a lot of disgusting things about him.

[@LorenzoMasterConnector]

They’re right. He took out scriptures to separate from Christs church. Repent and reject that

[@DarnedYankee]

I know Hus wanted the RCC to reform 100 years before Luther, but I didn’t know the Church Fathers we’re talking like the Confessional Protestants 1000 years before.

[@DavidNicholson101]

@@DarnedYankee It just proves the Catholic Church has been lying to its members. Plus, who wants to be part of a church with so much controversy.

[@DavidNicholson101]

@@LorenzoMasterConnector Are you referring to Martin Luther? If so, God used that man.

[@samueljennings4809]

God definitely used Martin Luther, but he sometimes was incredibly reckless with his words, not only about the books of Hebrews and James, but also eventually about the Jews. He was used by God, but he also had his own major faults.

[@samsdad110]

Major hat tip to you guys at the OPC church in Utah. I see that you’ve also done a documentary on Mormonism. How about Jehovah’s Witnesses and Islam as well, and while we’re at it, how about the Masonic Lodge. I know these things must take much time, but God is using you in a mighty way as I will distribute this to my Facebook feed like I already have the one on Eastern orthodoxy.

[@DarnedYankee]

There definitely needs to be one on Freemasonry and the JWs. I know a lot of Masons who believe are Christians but are active members of Mason Lodges and Subgroups.

[@eliasthomas2386]

Very well informed video i hope somebody would do the translations to chinese, indonesian, spanish, etc...

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you! A church in Costa Rica is currently translating it into Spanish. Please keep us in your prayers.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@BeniaminZaboj Thank you!

[@P.H.888]

Aren’t there apps and software that can do it nowadays?

[@thebasedlutheran]

Amazing documentary

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@cmc3776]

Excellent,well researched 👍 As someone who grew up in the Roman Catholic faith I can relate to this. I hadn’t a clue to what the gospel was I just knew dead religion! Praise God for his Son Jesus Christ and His saving work at the cross and His Spirit whom reveals the truth of the gospel to us whom are perishing 🙌

[@frankperrella1202]

What are you talking about I read the Bible & Church Father's the Earliest Christians are Catholic, Eastern Orthodox & Coptic Oriental Orthodox the Apostolic Churches, We all believe in Jesus Christ he is the Savior & Lord, you read Everything from the Sacraments are in the Scriptures John 3:5) John 6:51-58) John 20:21-22-23) The Prostestants removed 7 books the Apocrypha books there in the Gospel & got removed in way after 1611) God bless 🗝️🗝️🙏 The Apostles creed is all about Jesus Christ.

[@odious5317]

I know this video is 5 years old, but I’m trying to find out which church, or churches, practice the truest teachings of Jesus Christ. There is so much confusing information, and the claim of this, or that church being the true church. Could you point me in the right direction? I’m flustered.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@odious5317 Check out our more recent videos on Eastern Orthodoxy. They may help. Also feel free to call me. My number is on the church website listed in the description. Remember, no one has anything to fear from the truth, but liars.

[@dreamweaver3406]

Excellent!!

[@thetravelingpreacher]

This documentary will be an amazing tool if it was translated in Spanish.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you! A church in Costa Rica is working on it. :-)

[@ArcticBlits]

@@ancientpathstvis it done? And where can we find it?

[@ancientpathstv]

@@ArcticBlits I never heard back from them, so I'm not sure they did it.

[@nathanael123]

Amazing documentary thank you

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@samsdad110]

Whenever Pastor Jason mentions Saint Hillary in many of these documentaries, he’s done, I keep wondering “who would make her a saint anyway?“

[@Matthew-nu8wf]

@@ancientpathstv I think he was making a joke about 'St. Hillary' bringing to mind Hillary Clinton, saying 'who would make her a saint?' That's how I took it anyway. I've been loving your videos after a friend recommended the SDA one to me.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Matthew-nu8wf Thank you! I apparently confused his comment with someone else's. I've been inundated with them. 🙂

[@Matthew-nu8wf]

@@ancientpathstv Understandable, the vast majority of the comments on your videos seem...well, you know. I've been trying to get myself to just stop reading them and just enjoy the videos

[@danib712]

Jesus said the gates of hell should not prevail against it…that alone says it’s not the catholic church 😂 sorry guys

[@jeffreyAferguson]

Masterfully done

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@orwellianpepe7660]

I have a question: The quote from St Jerome about the Apokryphes/deuterocanonical scriptures, is that a forgery? Because an orthodox Christian said to me today that it is a forgery.

[@ancientpathstv]

I've never heard it called a forgery. Athanasius took a similar position. Even Cardinal Cajetan did before Trent.

[@orwellianpepe7660]

@@ancientpathstv thank you for the answer. I did some research too and it is not a forgery (it’s from his “Prologus Galaetus”). Funny enough, when I asked him for a source, he said “you are convinced about your belief. It doesn’t matter if I send to you a source”. Yes I am convinced, but I want to know the truth about church history. I don’t think he even has a source. It was just to protect his church dogma that all church fathers had the same opinion. They really say that and they also say that every council was inspired by the Holy Ghost (yes, every…). I just want to find out the truth about everything. I respect the church fathers but they are not infallible.

[@orwellianpepe7660]

But I have made your videos popular to german orthodox and Catholic Christians. They are not happy about your documentaries and they all want to refute and debunk it. I am still waiting for it. Just saw one video on KZbin from english speaking orthodox Christians that tried to refute your points, but imo they failed.

[@orwellianpepe7660]

@@ancientpathstvI just read about Athanasius. He said that the old testament canon has 22 books, not 24 as the Jews would count their books of the tanach. Do you know why? And I have a second question. The ark of the covenant is symbolic for Christ right? Do Catholics and orthodoxs believe that as well?

[@ancientpathstv]

@@orwellianpepe7660 Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics typically associate the Ark with Mary. As shown in our Eastern Orthodox video, her devotion takes off in the late fourth century. Athanasius simply combined the books differently. www.bible-researcher.com/athanasius.html

[@ScroopGroop]

Its crazy how much better the response is here as compared to your work on Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@ancientpathstv]

Eastern Orthodox haven't really been challenged that much, so they don't seem to know how to respond, other than with ranting and unsubstantiated charges of "quote mining."

[@ScroopGroop]

@@ancientpathstv I love your counter EO work. I came so close to converting, but your work helped me see through the silliness. Now a Lutheran Seminarian.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@ScroopGroop Thank you!

[@Roufus55]

Any suggested books on this subject that handles the information found in the video?

[@ancientpathstv]

The Roman Catholic Controversy by James White is good, as is Roman Catholicism by Lorraine Boettner.

[@ancientpathstv]

Be sure to subscribe - - we're working on a video addressing the claims of Eastern Orthodoxy, that also applies to Rome. We hope to have it out in a couple of months.

[@Roufus55]

@@ancientpathstv unfortunately, neither are in ebook format.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Roufus55 archive.org/details/romancatholicism0000boet

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Roufus55 Here's one you don't have to borrow. archive.org/details/RomanCatholicismLoraineBoettner1962/mode/2up

[@canadiankewldude]

This is the first time I've heard of when the rosary was introduced to Catholicism. Do you know when the Muslims started using a stringed prayer bead. The oldest use I am aware of is the Hindu. Still in use today.

[@kickpublishing]

This channel is an oasis, a feast, in a land of famine.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@ZonexNT]

The video been good, keep it up.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you! You might also enjoy our more recent ones on Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@ZonexNT]

@@ancientpathstv sure I’ll watch those to, thanks

[@jtzutube]

Broussard's nonsense equals outright lying. ∴, he's anathema.

[@juliocesartsuarez7658]

Has this video been translated to spanish?

[@ancientpathstv]

I heard a church in Costa Rica was working on it, but I don't know if they finished.

[@aCatholicOne]

Mind if someone can send time stamps, thanks if you do so and no worries if you dont :) Blessings

[@ancientpathstv]

What time stamps?

[@aCatholicOne]

Oh hey, just for the topics of the sections of the video, like the section about the Pope and such.@@ancientpathstv

[@ancientpathstv]

@@aCatholicOne I'll try to add chapters, but it will be a few days. I'm in the middle of other things right now.

[@aCatholicOne]

@@ancientpathstv Oh sorry, I was just asking for time stamps like 00:00 , thank you for one upping it

[@Freezedriedbs]

Chris Arnzen from Iron Sharpens Iron Radio 16:48??

[@ancientpathstv]

Yes. Good ear. 🙂 My personal favorite of his voice overs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ7Hn2hmjMqmZtE

[@sakogekchyan7366]

OK so here is a question though. How liturgical are protestants allowed to get? Like OK no veneration of icons, got it, but could a protestant church Cover its walls in frescos Biblical figures and post biblical Saints? Can it use incense and build churches with beautiful ornate architecture? I ask this as an Armenian because as much as I might be considering Protestantism, I wouldn't want to practice worship in a generic Apple pie American fashion. I think every country should practice worship in a manner that is natural to their culture, so long as it is not violation of scripture. There is beauty in liturgy and to just dismiss it offhand as emotionalism is unfair.

[@ancientpathstv]

Americans have sometimes overreacted and swung the pendulum to the opposite extreme. Historic Protestants didn't believe we should renounce tradition or beauty, but they understood extrabiblical tradition is fallible and our hearts are idol factories. Hezekiah had to destroy the brazen serpent made by Moses, because Israel had made it an idol. They would never have agreed with a praise band or pastor in "skinny jeans," nor would they think there was virtue in ugly architecture. They modeled their liturgies after those of the early church. Their goal was to focus on Christ in His glory. I encourage you to watch our videos critiquing Eastern Orthodoxy and check out www.reformationtoday.org

[@sakogekchyan7366]

@@ancientpathstv I have actually seen your video on Eastern Orthodoxy. I am currently in the process of checking the arguments point by point as I myself have a library of the church fathers. I think you do make some fair arguments, especially in regards to some of the more bombastic claims made by EOs, but I don't agree with everything. For example, I disagree with what appears to be your suspicion of mysticism and mystical theology. Mysticism has been part of the very bones of Christianity since the time of Christ himself and varying degrees of asceticism have also been part of the Christian experience. You see this in the writings of St. Paul which are deeply rooted in the mystical theology of Second Temple Judaism. Then this tradition is simply inherited by the desert fathers. I mean the very hermeneutical method the authors of the New Testament used to interpret the Old Testament is inherently mystical in nature because it reveals the mysteries that are not obviously apparent in the plane text. It is essentially a Christian form of midrash. So I would argue that it is disingenuous to fault the church fathers for seeing Mary as the new Eve or the new ark of the covenant, or seeing Joseph in the Old Testament as a type of Jesus, when they are simply using the same hermeneutical method the New Testament uses. There is nothing in scripture that says we have to limit ourselves to the typological examples explicitly stated in the New Testament. That said, I think there is godly mysticism and demonic mysticism. Demonic mysticism revolves around the covetous pursuit of hidden or forbidden knowledge. It is inherently secretive, clandestine and Full of itself. Proper mysticism weights on the Holy Spirit and is inherently submissive to God. I also somewhat disagree with your take on asceticism. However, I do agree with you when you say that some church fathers did take things too far in subordinating married life to asceticism and monasticism. I don't think it's good to be on either extreme of the spectrum. And where asceticism is practiced, I would agree that it shouldn't be to the point of tormenting and causing pain to the body. I think the Benedictine reforms were necessary in this regard. The other thing I disagree with is the assertion that believing in the perpetual virginity of Mary is necessarily tied to asceticism or a distain for healthy marital sex. Personally I do believe in her perpetual virginity, but primarily because I believe she was set aside for the purpose of being the mother of God. While marital sex is good and godly, we do see a separation between it and that which is set aside for God alone. Even those who do not believe she remained a virgin after the birth of our Lord will at least acknowledge that for the time she was pregnant with him, she did not participate in marital sex. While sex is good and godly when it is done within the confines of marriage, it is not holy. It is profane, profane in the more mundane usage of that word. This is why we don't have sex in church. This is why the God of Israel did not have Temple prostitutes. Still, I will agree that perhaps Mary's perpetual virginity should be a matter of personal pius opinion and not dogmatized. Finally, I disagree when it comes to the issue of the intercession of the Saints. While again I might agree that some people might go a little too far in certain cultural practices, we know through the Bible that the Saints and angels are praying for us here on earth. So it's not that big of a jump to actively ask them to do so in particular instances. This doesn't mean we aren't praying directly to God. Eastern Christians have been praying directly to God since the beginnings of the church. This isn't a case of either or. I know you probably heard this many times before, but for me it's just simple and intuitive. I ask for the intercession of the Saints just as I ask for the intercession of my friends and neighbors. And that is all I do. I am very attached to my patron saint and I believe he protects me and intercedes for me. Again this is not at the expense of God. We see throughout holy scripture that God uses people as his instruments to carry out his will. Why does God need armies of angels? Why does he need apostles to spread his gospel? Clearly he doesn't. But he loves to involve his creatures in his Holy work. So that is exactly how I see the Saints. They basically do the same things that the angels do, and you see several hints throughout scripture that glorified humans become part of the heavenly host. So if angels guard and protect humans here on earth, it seems only natural to me that glorified human saints do the same. If angels pray and intercede on behalf of humans, it's only natural that glorified human saints do the same. So I guess if I were to be a protestant, I would be a pretty borderline protestant. I can agree to a very precise understanding of sola scriptura which recognizes the Bible as the only infallible Authority and source of doctrine and morals, but my interpretation of the Bible would be heavily influenced by the church fathers, the councils and historical research and context. That last part is especially true as of late as I have been doing a lot of research into Second Temple Judaism and the ancient near eastern context of the Bible.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@sakogekchyan7366 God tells us the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. He says, he that trusteth in his own heart is a fool. Mystics reject a piety rooted in God's Word, for one rooted in their own feelings and experiences.

[@sakogekchyan7366]

@@ancientpathstv Ah and this right here is why even as a Protestant, I could never be a Calvinist, although I do see Calvinism as a necessary counterbalance to those Christians who cringe at Biblical passages that act as a mirror to their own perverse and fallen hearts. Whenever I find that a person is too far in one extreme, I usually like to emphasize the opposite Extreme in order to hopefully bring them back to center. However, I fundamentally disagree with the Calvinist understanding of free will and fallen human nature. I agree with you on depravity, but disagree with you on total. I would argue that your doctrine of complete and total depravity is not in continuity with either the Jewish or early Christian tradition. The heart is corrupt and deceitful, but this is all the more reason why it must be submitted to God. Yes, the Bible does say that the heart of man is inclined towards wickedness, and yes in some places it even says that our thoughts are all wickedness all the time. Still, this must be balanced out by those passages that give examples of people whose hearts do seem to be inclined towards God. The fundamental disagreement between us is the question of whether the free will of man after the fall is completely and irredeemably corrupt so that it only seeks after the evil, or if it still bears the image of God and has the ability to recognize and accept the grace of God. I would argue the numerous figures in the Old and New Testament who are specifically referred to as righteous or good people are a counter to the doctrine of total depravity. It wouldn't call those people righteous if they weren't. At best, it would say simply that they were obedient to God or something along those lines. Some people might ask that if there were righteous people, then what is the point of Christ and His salvation? But I think this misunderstands what righteousness is. Righteousness is not inherent goodness that does not require salvation; it is simply having a heart that is inclined towards the good, and God is the ultimate good. Furthermore, we see from human actions every day both the corrupting influence of the fall, but also the seed of righteousness that is the image of God within us. You have soldiers in the trenches who jump on a grenade out of love for their brothers in arms. In that moment, they don't weigh out the pros and cons; all they can think about is protecting those they love. Humans also have at least a basic understanding of fairness and justice. True, our corrupt hearts do often pervert justice, as we can see with the modern-day cult of social justice in much of the western world, but they aren't automatically inclined towards that particular perversion of justice; it needs to be beaten into them through college indoctrination. Look, I will agree with the position that because the imago Dei is corrupted by the fall, nothing we do is ever truly good from the perspective of God. It's always distorted by at least a little bit of evil. This is where I agree with you. Where I disagree is the assertion that because our righteousness is imperfect, everything we do is automatically displeasing to God. Again, in scripture we see numerous instances where such and such a person is pleasing to God. And it's not because they had perfect righteousness, but it's because God saw the seed of righteousness within them that He could cultivate and grow. The love of God is transformative and purifying. It's the love that gradually turned seriously flawed people like Abraham and Jacob into the righteous fathers of nations. I feel like it's easy for Christians to fall into one of the two extremes when it comes to human nature. Either they take the warm and fuzzy view that the fall wasn't really that serious and that human beings are still inherently good, or they take the view that we are just complete shit with no redeeming qualities. I think the most sober position to take is one that avoids these two extremes. I don't take the fall lightly at all. Whenever I need a reminder of the depths to which our nature has fallen, I need only look at things like the Holocaust, the Cambodian genocide, or even the genocide of my own people. I see the ugly face of fallen humanity staring right back at me in those events and it makes me shudder. And I recognize those same tendencies within my own heart. At the same time, during those same dark chapters in human history, there were men and women who risked and often gave their lives to protect those who were persecuted and give comfort to the orphans and the widows. Those are the people who I would argue are pleasing to God. That is the imago Dei at work in them. Still, I will agree that all our righteousness is as filthy rags before God. But of course it is. There is no way that any finite creature could ever through his own will be perfect before an infinite, all-good and all-holy God. Compared to the goodness of God, the most saintly person is the most grievous of sinners. And you know what? Even those Christian monks and mystics knew this. They said it all their lives. They always recognized that any goodness they had comes from God alone. Far from being in a constant state of happy crappy euphoria, they were constantly and poignantly reminded of their own sinfulness. You see this when you read the writings of the Desert Fathers and the later Eastern and Western monks and hermits. King David is the perfect model of repentance, a beautiful example of a broken and contrite heart, pouring out his soul before God and drenching his bed with tears. When I read the stories and the writings of those monks and hermits, that is exactly what I see. The mystical experience of God is what some Eastern monks call "joyful sorrow." It is a simultaneous unfathomable joy at beholding the glory of God before them while at the same time, an unfathomable sorrow at seeing their sinful nature reflected back at them when in His presence. They are in awe of His infinite perfection, and this forces them to see their filthy rags. So no, I would disagree with the assertion that mysticism necessarily entails going off of your own feelings or what feels good. That might be true for the mysticism or mystical theology of the pagans, grounded as it is in "self-knowledge" and "self-realization," but not so for the mysticism of the Bible and of the many godly men and women throughout Christian history. A proper Christian mysticism does not reject a piety rooted in God's word but deepens our understanding of His transformative power and reminds us of the constant need for repentance and seeking His face.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@sakogekchyan7366 You're arguing against a caricature of Calvinism.

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 :) :) .

[@ZenatiOmar]

Roman Catholic Roman General Ore Roman Universal It looks christian but its paganism gods became saints

[@KenoReplay.]

1:04:01 big leap in logic there. To go from: "theres 2000 'denominations' counted in this survey that don't adhere to Sola Scriptura so therefore the majority don't hold to it." No no no. You explained 2000/40000. Explain the other 38000s chaos

[@ancientpathstv]

You weren't listening. The vast majority don't hold to Sola Scriptura. The Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Mormons, Pentecostals, and a host of others add something to the Word of God.

[@KenoReplay.]

​@@ancientpathstvah I see. No TRUE protestant falls into the chaos of the Reformation. Just like no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge

[@evanbrown2594]

​@@ancientpathstvSo all the dead branches broken off bellow a healthy tree are evidence of what exactly? I am paraphrasing here but go find where this original quote comes from. Are you trying to pass off Mormonism onto anything but the logical conclusion of the banker revolution against Christendom? It isn't like Joseph Smith tried to print his own currency or anything... Smith, Luther, Calvin, all thought they were modern day prophets, their immediate followers like Theodore Beza and Bringham Young thought they were. Yet today we are expected to pretend such parallels don't exist and not to look to closely. Amazing how wars between Christians always start out after such men "somehow" gain traction.

[@dpwXXIPolskaPolak]

Jesusin Agony of His Supernatural Humanlike Nature Told, Said to His beloved disciple John Is Your Mother in Context of Mary. His standing before cross

[@DavidNicholson101]

Paul confronted Peter for agreeing with the Judaizers that one needs to be circumcised in addition to being saved. If Peter was the pope, Paul would have mentioned circumcision as a requirement for salvation rather than confront him on the issue.

[@Triniboyforchrist]

This happen after acts 15 were the matter was already settle, so you talking nonsense, Peter was the first to preach to the gentiles in acts 10, and the jewdizer made a big fuss about him going into house of a gentile, which God show him that he was going to bring salvation to the gentiles

[@DavidNicholson101]

@@Triniboyforchrist Read Galatians chapter 2. I am not talking nonsense.

[@Triniboyforchrist]

@@DavidNicholson101 Gla 2 say nothing about Peter wanted the gentiles to be circumcise, Peter withdraw himself went the other Jews came to Antioch, acts 15 say certain Jews came to Paul and say the gentiles must be circumcise to be save, of which we the Apostles give no such command, so you are talking nonsense, acts 10 and 15 took place before Gla 2 incident.

[@DavidNicholson101]

@@Triniboyforchrist I know that, but according to the Scriptures, Peter didn’t want to be seen eating with the gentiles, and Paul confronted him for trying to compel the gentiles to live like the Jews. I am not talking nonsense. Peter caved to the Jews, and Paul called him out on it.

[@Triniboyforchrist]

@@DavidNicholson101 hey, nobody Perfect right, although Clements of Rome did say The person Paul rebuke wasn't the Apostles Peter, but one of the seventy from the book of acts, who name was Cephas also, but it make know different eaiter way

[@StElijah]

Comment at 1:32:20 "None in saint Athanasius, saint Augustine, or saing Chrysostom in the 4th century." Please refer to: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theotokos#Early_Church It mentions St. Athanasius, St. Chrysostom and St. Augustine all 3 by name. Also refer to Papyrus 470 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rylands_Papyri

[@ancientpathstv]

You're confusing the title theotokos with prayers to Mary. Papyrus 470 is probably mid to late--4th century not mid-3rd. Even if it is, it's clearly not representative of the catholic faith of the early church.

[@SolarSiege]

Former catholic aspirant now idk I was aspiring orthodoxy but idk anymore please pray for me

[@ancientpathstv]

Please watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLTnYqPjauceaM Also, feel free to contact me through the church website.

[@sahilthedisciple]

Who else is here from Redeemed Zoomer’s story?

[@ancientpathstv]

What story?

[@Raisin22_]

Yoooooooooo what's good broooo

[@jesusmuseandcoffee]

Ayyyye nice to see you here too!

[@KenoReplay.]

1:04:46 my brother in Christ, people are fallible. The Church is not. That is why men fall into the sins of contraception and yet the Church has not. Bold words as well coming from a Protestant. Do you not deny Christ's teachings on Marriage? Why do mainline protestant denominations allow Divorce?

[@rickcampanella4254]

Because they live by grace and they don't live under Jewish law .

[@KnightFel]

The churches of Galatia and the church in Corinth were in error, especially Corinth which persisted in it. The church can err, the way to be corrected are by the scripture.

[@kimwolf1708]

Very well done. So much great information. Thank you.

[@ancientpathstv]

Thank you!

[@dpwXXIPolskaPolak]

Not Rome is the center of Catholicism but Vatican on his subarbs.

[@bmc8871]

You criticize the Church because of irreverent worship? But Protestants have no mass. An irreverent worship is still better than no worship at all.

[@jasonpoole2093]

Irreverent worship is better than no worship at all? God says we are to worship Him in Spirit and in truth. So, I heartily disagree with any such assertion.

[@bmc8871]

@@jasonpoole2093 "God says we are to worship Him" So you do not disagree with the assertion.

[@DarnedYankee]

Confessional Protestants hear the Word preached and receive Holy Communion. How is there no mass by your argument?

[@philippbrogli779]

​@@bmc8871It sounds to me like you are saying the only way God accepts worship is through a catholic style mass. Is that true and if so how did you come to such conclusions. I prefer Biblical arguments, but I also accept any other form of reasoning which made you come to such a conclusion.

[@bmc8871]

@@philippbrogli779 Do Protestants offer the sacrifice of the Mass where the hosts are consecrated into the body and blood of Our Lord? I don’t think Protestants do and either way you don’t even agree on what that means. An exegesis on the Eucharist is one thing, calling it ‘irreverent’ is another.

[@dyilandlord3518]

I love the youtube age everything is expose so easiy even if you don't seek it. Now go listen to the opposing arguments in the comments, i leatned a lot.

[@dubbelkastrull]

2:15 bookmark

[@lukes2254]

After analyzing this video you have indeed strengthened my Catholic faith, thank you.

[@ancientpathstv]

Mormons say the same.

[@conservativecatholic9030]

@@ancientpathstvI can’t speak on the Mormon part, but video’s like this remind me how much of a disregard for truth many Protestants have when doing apologetics. If you really had faith you wouldn’t be so afraid to argue against a standard Catholic teaching instead of strawman arguments. I’m only about 30 minutes in and I’ve already seen multiple major mistakes. (Easy ones at that)

[@conservativecatholic9030]

@@ancientpathstvand honestly, the way Evangelicals distort Catholicism (I don’t know if you’re Evangelical but the video does mention Calvinism) I sometimes wonder if what they say about Mormons are lies. Honestly, I’m more likely to convert to Mormonism than I am to your brand of Christianity based upon the standard apologists I see coming from the Protestant side.

[@roberteaston6413]

@@conservativecatholic9030 One person I cannot figure out is Michael Coren. He was an Englishman who immigrated to Canada. He was an ethnic Jew who was actually from a Catholic background. In Canada he became an evangelical Christian. He was a TV journalist and writer who was a conservative. After ten years as an evangelical he converted to Catholicism. As a Catholic convert he was smug and smarmy. He would lash out against those who were not Catholics. He was against gay marriage and considered homosexuality to be morally wrong. Then he said that he met some gay people and found that he liked some of them. Just like that he became a priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. He is now a "Christian socialist". In 2018 the Anglican Church of Canada announced that based on current trends it will cease to exist by 2040. Coren wrote books such as "Why Catholics Are Right". Now he is a priest in a dying apostate denomination.

[@conservativecatholic9030]

@@roberteaston6413 I’m not entirely sure why you’re bringing him up

[@LorenzoMasterConnector]

I love how everyone claims to be the truth. Judgement day is gunna be one heck of a day for everyone now isn’t it?

[@MrSeedi76]

Certainly for you, since you're spreading lies in the comment section. But everything is possible with God so even Roman catholics might be saved.

[@LorenzoMasterConnector]

@@MrSeedi76 You mean Roman Catholics will be saved and maybe everyone else will too. Correction ✅

[@P.H.888]

@@LorenzoMasterConnectorNo! JESUS CLAIMED TO BE THE TRUTH ✝️🩸🕊️ & HE IS Rome says Simon Peter is, and his successors !?

[@LorenzoMasterConnector]

@@P.H.888 exactly ! JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF said Peter ok this rock I will build my church. He was the first pope and protects Christs scripture from being twisted for humans personal gain aka having Christians break away from the true church being the holy Catholic Church!

[@rickcampanella4254]

Those of us who are saved won't be judged.

[@supermanandbatmanishere]

u like how if yo look in the comments of this video and the orthodox, you can kinda see a differences of how orthodox and catholic and protestants speak (imo orthodox is very prideful )

[@ancientpathstv]

Eastern Orthodox tend to ignore the evidence and simply assert their opinions as fact.

[@supermanandbatmanishere]

@@ancientpathstv yea, and when is your next video

[@ancientpathstv]

@@supermanandbatmanishere Did you see the one on Cyril Lucaris?

[@supermanandbatmanishere]

@@ancientpathstv yes, but that was some months ago

[@ancientpathstv]

@@supermanandbatmanishere Lord willing, soon. 🙂

[@FimiliarGalaxy9]

Soo… is ‘the church’ like just you?

[@MrSeedi76]

The typical ridiculous claim of a catholic who's too lazy to figure stuff out. The church is all true believers. But for starters here's a quote from a guy whose teaching you're supposed to know: "Wherever there are 2 or 3 gathered in my name, I am amongst them." I'm certain you'll find out who said it 😂.

[@Max-he6yc]

​@@MrSeedi76who are the true believers

[@tomtemple69]

​@@Max-he6ycthose who believe the gospel

[@Max-he6yc]

@@tomtemple69 how do you know what the Gospel is?

[@tomtemple69]

@@Max-he6yc because there are these books written called the gospels... theres 4 of them

[@mrpell]

If men are dead in their trespasses and cannot choose God unless they are born again of the Spirit, what good does it do to implore people to choose the true God of the bible? If they are born again, will they not choose? If they are not born again, isn't it futile to ask them to choose? I'm confused...

[@ancientpathstv]

Please watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHy1qGlqq9FofJY

[@ancientpathstv]

This is also very helpful. archive.org/details/evangelismsovere0000jipa

[@mrpell]

@@ancientpathstv So basically because, 1. It is right, 2. It glorifies God, 3. God has chosen to work through people to accomplish some of his purposes. Thanks for pointing me towards some helpful resources to think about

[@thomascicero128]

LOL!

[@dpwXXIPolskaPolak]

and manyGerman .BrandenburganLutherans mordered other calvinising protestant and atacked and mordered catholics from time to time.

[@samsdad110]

I wonder why all the pedophilia among the priests doesn’t tell many of the Roman catholic, faithful something about their so-called sacred church. Then again, when I was one as a child, I wasn’t really aware of it or thought about it much. Just so thankful, I escaped that private meeting with one of my parish priests to talk about my becoming an altar boy because who knows what would’ve happened. The other thing is, do they ever wonder how number 1 Timothy 4:1-5 applies to Rome?

[@P.H.888]

They will throw it out, how could it possibly be addressed to them!? No wonder they demanded The Hebrew Scriptures to be only Latin! Demonic false priesthood.

[@Diapason16ft]

The Vatican2 sect is not the Catholic Church tho. Sede vacante…

[@ancientpathstv]

That's a convenient game to play. We'll stick with the Bible and the early church, instead of medieval fictions.

[@Diapason16ft]

@@ancientpathstv kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2GVpIF-h7N_ec0si=6oqnHn5Vc_MB123W That Protestant horse you ride sits a bit high, dun’nt it? And from where i sit-somewhere between sedevacantism and 7thDay Adventureism-the whole church seems to be a game. One i’m done playing. A mustard seed will move a mountain? I got about half a seed left. I think i will keep it someplace safe for when i really need it.

[@JoshCatholic]

@@ancientpathstv It's n o game at all, but a serious issue. You labeling it as a game is a weak cop-out

[@ancientpathstv]

@@JoshCatholic No, my point is that you're treating it as a game, rather than recognizing that popes and councils have contradicted one another. I take it very seriously; your "game" will lead you and your children to Hell.

[@YourBoyJohnny94]

The Church of Rome was apostate waaaaaaaaaaaaay before Vatican 2. Besides Roman Catholics look at you sedevacantists as “ Protestants” and schismatic.

[@rickcampanella4254]

The law is a curse

[@ancientpathstv]

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully. . . 1 Timothy 1:8

[@david_porthouse]

The nearest Orthodox Presbyterian Church to me is on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. What sort of animal is it? Are you former Presbyterians who have done a U-turn on the Filioque, or former Orthodox who have done a U-turn on episcopal government of the church?

[@ancientpathstv]

We're confessional Presbyterians. After J. Gresham Machen was run out of the mainline Presbyterian Church (USA) for holding to the historic faith, he and others founded the Presbyterian Church of America in 1936. The denomination was sued for having a name too similar to the mainline. Not having the resources to fight the legal battle, the name was changed to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.

[@david_porthouse]

Your name is very confusing.

[@orwellianpepe7660]

@@ancientpathstvplease make more documentaries about the Catholic and Orthodox Church and the church fathers. Your documentaries are getting popular and Catholic +orthodox are very angry because you destroy their lies 😂

[@ancientpathstv]

@@orwellianpepe7660 I'm currently working on Cyril Lucaris: Calvinist Patriarch/Orthodox Saint.

[@tomtemple69]

Orthodox doesn't mean eastern orthodox, it's just the word orthodox

[@doomerquiet1909]

15;45 sounds like chris arnzen

[@ancientpathstv]

It is. 🙂

[@frankperrella1202]

But i ask you a Question & ill answer it the Catholic Church put together the Bible Canons of the NT if we didn't we would have Weird Gnostic gospels! The Church got rid of Heretical books of the Gnostic gospels like The Gospel of Thomas & many others. Matthew 16-19) & Matthew 18:18) there's a handful of Jews that differ on the Apocrypha books & there's Jews that back up the Apocrypha books For the Catholic Church came out of Judaism which our Lord Jesus Christ especially picked out Simon Peter CEPHEUS & changed his name. John Calvin fought with all of the Reformers. DR Robert Sungenis has good rebuttals on the Reformers. Martin Luther wanted books removed from the Bible also! Nothing Wrong to Honor Christ Mother & his Family & Saints Revelation 8:3-4) ill say it once more Without the Catholic Church we would have Gnosticism in the Bible aka Heretical books like the Fake Gospel of Mary Magdelin & the book of Thomas & Enoch. Peter CEPHEUS was giving the keys 🗝️🗝️ to.

[@ancientpathstv]

Sungenis (who we had debate in Salt Lake years ago) doesn't have good rebuttals. Did you watch the whole video? We deal with your questions.

[@thomashogan4908]

The Catholic Church is the true and original Christian faith founded by Christ when he was personally present on earth.

[@ancientpathstv]

Mormons also ignore all the evidence and "bear their testimony." Did you even watch the video?

[@MW-eg4gu]

To - Ancient. They're all restorationists. So what? So what's your point? Ok, genius, exactly which church should I join if I were to leave the Catholic Church?

[@ancientpathstv]

If you take Jesus seriously, you'd join one that listens to His apostles and represents the faith once delivered to the saints. That's not Joseph Smith being baptized by John the Baptist in 1829, Pope Francis blessing homosexuals in 2024, or Eastern Orthodoxy claiming John of San Francisco levitated when he prayed. America is overrun with Gnosticism, but as in Athanasius' time, there are faithful churches. Let me know where you are, and I can point you to some.

[@philippbrogli779]

57:52 To me that sounds like this guy claims that the church is what causes the infalability of the Bible.

[@user-yu7wu3ye4z]

Catholics are still bound under pain of sin to do penance on Friday. Either they can substitute another penance or can abstain from meat. Abstinence is still required on Fridays during Lent. If you're going to make an honest criticism of Catholics do your research

[@ancientpathstv]

I did my research. The substitution was not allowed in years past.

[@user-yu7wu3ye4z]

@@ancientpathstv yes, and? It's a discipline, not a dogma/doctrine

[@ancientpathstv]

@@user-yu7wu3ye4z Roman Catholicism keeps redefining mortal sins, just like it forgets the Isidorian Decretals and the Papal Syllabus of Errors.

[@Damienoos]

I wonder if you will also make a video about protestantism. You said Paul called the leaders of the church elders alone but that is just not true. Paul went around the world in chains of the holy spirit which he appointed bishops in every church to lead the flock and most of his letters were aimed to them.

[@ancientpathstv]

Instead of making baseless assertions, you need to deal with the evidence. In Acts 20, Paul called the Ephesian elders (presbuteroi) to Miletus and told them to guard the flock over which God had made them overseers (episkopoi). The terms for elder and bishop are repeatedly used interchangeably in Scripture and the early church fathers. There was pressure towards a "bishop of bishops" within each city, but it can be documented to be a later development. Paul established elders in every city (Titus 1), not a single bishop.

[@Damienoos]

@@ancientpathstv Baseles? Exactly acts 20:22-28 says overseers (episkopos), meaning bishops. He litterally calls them overseers not elders in the passage, so that's denying scripture? And to your point in Titus 1, also read Titus 1:7 again the word Overseer (bishop) is used. And if they are called both it does not mean that they are only one or the other.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Damienoos Please reread my reply and the text. In Acts 20:17, Paul sent for the elders (presbuteroi) and in Acts 20:28, he calls them overseers (episkopoi).

[@Damienoos]

@@ancientpathstv i have. So in Titus 1:5 Paul is saying appoint elders.. appoint to what? Titus 1:7 Overseer.. And how do you explain 1 Timothy 3, Paul too speaking about the roles of the overseer and the deacon in the church. So it's undeniable

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Damienoos It's deniable if you let Scripture correct you. If you can't see that Paul is calling the elders (presbuteroi) OF ONE CITY overseers (episkopoi) in Acts 20, then you'll see whatever you want to see in Scripture.

[@KenoReplay.]

"If you say, Do not believe the Catholics: you cannot fairly use the gospel in bringing me to faith in Manichæus; for it was at the command of the Catholics that I believed the gospel." St Augustine

[@ancientpathstv]

Did you watch the video? Rome has abandoned the historic faith and is no longer catholic. So long as you identify Joel Osteen as "Protestant," you can live in your fantasy world, but it's real Protestants are those who still hold to historic and biblical faith - - real catholicism. John Calvin's French Confession reads, ". . .we confess that which has been established by the ancient councils, and we detest all sects and heresies which were rejected by the holy doctors, such as St. Hilary, St. Athanasius, St. Ambrose, and St. Cyril."

[@SergioBriMa]

This video is fascinating. RC here and I find in your speech and perspective an utter lack of understanding of catholic spirituality. I find reformed theologians have incredible intelectual capacities, but seem to miss the necessity of reaching for the spiritual life, for example a tendency to downplay the work of the Holy Spirit in our age, dismissal of rote prayer, and inability to combine seemingly opposing viewpoints into a greater and holistic understanding of that which has been revealed. But maybe I’m doing same thing yo reformed Christians as I claim they do to Catholics! Would love input from reformed people on this dynamic.

[@ancientpathstv]

It sounds like you're responding to a caricature. Read the prayers in The Valley of Vision and get back to me.

[@KnightFel]

The Puritans were much more spiritual than the Roman Catholics, they were all reformed. Catholics are inundated with superstition.

[@dpwXXIPolskaPolak]

The parents of Nary wgere sinfull people but She as Mother of Supernatural Human nature of Son of God=Man Jesus Christ was without any Sin because Dhe WAs and IS Supernatural Human.HumanLike Being Witout any Coruption.

[@ancientpathstv]

That's not from the Bible or the early church. We deal with Mary more here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLTnYqPjauceaM

[@tomtemple69]

Show me where that is in the Bible...

[@Max-he6yc]

​@@ancientpathstvquantify early church, what period are you referring to

[@ancientpathstv]

@@Max-he6yc Generally, the term applies to the church of the first, second, and third centuries.

[@rickcampanella4254]

There's only two kinds of people in the world saved and unsaved. If you are reborn then you're in the body of Christ. The true Church Jesus founded was the Holy Spirit that He left with us.

[@kariukimuiri2496]

These are twisted facts to bismirch the church God founded

[@ancientpathstv]

We documented our claims. All you offer is name-calling.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@ivanvasquez9432 They can sneer and bluster, but they can't make the truth go away.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@ivanvasquez9432 Because like Athanasius, he believed in a real, spiritual presence, not transubstantiation.

[@alpoole2057]

Gladly Catholic. I love Jesus. Be careful judging your brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@ancientpathstv]

The Council of Trent anathematizes me and my faith. Be careful trying to rewrite history.

[@jodykissel8115]

NOT JUDGING JUST FACTS. READ THE BIBLE

[@emiliaion3094]

Stay Catholic and don't listen to this heretic. He has no brothers and sisters, he is not even Christian. He is someone desperate to destroy Christianity. He trashes in his videos all Christian denominations. From an orthodox Christian, God bless. ✝️

[@rickcampanella4254]

Jesus never founded a state run religion. You should just call yourself a Socialist Globalist in the one world religion.

[@douggauzy6258]

Wrong ! If you’re Catholic that means nothing to you being my brother . The Bible that you never read - we are called out all over the place to judge False teachers . Ephesians 4:14. For an example or Roman’s 16: 17-18. Read it ! Your first pope . 2 verse 1-2. Read it . My brother is a redeemed soul by Faith in Jesus Christ plus nothing . Roman’s 4:5. 2 Corinthians 5 verse 21. You are not my brother .

[@MW-eg4gu]

And then I read my Bible, and I realized I have to leave the Catholic Church and join the Pentecostal Church ... the Baptist Church ... the Seventh-Day Adventists ... the Church of Christ ... the ... No! I am not a Protestant! I am OBEYING the Catholic Faith! I am not protesting anything!

[@ancientpathstv]

The Pentecostals, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, and Church of Christ aren't Protestant. They're all restorationists.

[@MW-eg4gu]

To - Ancient I'm in Miami, Florida. Yes, you do that. Point me to some. You still are not NAMING the denomination. Oh, I forgot. The one you point to isn't a denomination. It's the True Church.

[@ancientpathstv]

Please don't set a standard for a true church to which even your own can't live up. Rome has its divisions: Latin Rite, Byzantine Rite, Maronite, and a number of others, as well. Within those, you have Father James Martin, promoting homosexuality, and Mel Gibson, promoting the Latin Mass. The only real unity is they acknowledge the pope as the head of the church. As shown in this video, his is not the biblical faith, nor the historic faith of the church. There are faithful denominations. We are part of one. I asked, because, some are better represented in some areas than others. A solid church in your area is Pinelands Presbyterian Church (10201 Bahia Drive Cutler Bay, FL 33189).

[@mikejames303]

You poor, poor protestants. May God lead you to the true Church.

[@ancientpathstv]

You poor Roman Catholics who ignore all the evidence and try to rationalize that Francis represents the historic faith.

[@danib712]

Peter is not the rock! It’s right there in your face and you ignore it not because you’re a good Christian but because you’re too stubborn to see Gods truth. Don’t be afraid to read the Bible

[@mikejames303]

@@danib712 you ignore the Orthodox Christian belief of 1500 years, instead relying on the belief of a gluttonous, arrogant heretic. Peter is the rock and has always been. Jesus didn't speak Greek, he spoke Aramaic. He named Simon Kephas, not Petros.

[@mikejames303]

@@ancientpathstv Francis is just one pope in a line of many, he may not represent the traditional faith, but his office does. No Christian for 1500 years, and no real Christian for 2000, has not recognized the bishop of Rome, the See of Peter, as the shepard of the flock, the one Jesus chose to "feed my sheep". Without the unity the of the papal office we would eventually end up like protestants, leaving one Church to start another, believing in all kinds of heresies.

[@ancientpathstv]

@@mikejames303 If you'd actually watched the whole video, you'd know what you're saying is untrue.

[@DanielWard79]

Christian's believe God is the final authority and protestants believe the bible is the final authority.

[@andrewclover1462]

That's a bit like saying some children honor their parents, but good children obey what their parents say.

[@wellofsevenph]

That's like saying, God is not yet done writing the Bible.

[@DanielWard79]

@@wellofsevenph it's like saying God is not bound by how you interpret his words

[@DanielWard79]

@Martin Ramsbottom yes I am Catholic. 1 Corinthians 4:3 But to me it is a very small thing to be judged by you, or by man's day; but neither do I judge my own self 4For I am not conscious to myself of any thing, yet am I not hereby justified; but he that judgeth me, is the Lord If were a bible Christian you would know we are not to judge ourselves Justified or Saved. Has my life been changed? Well yes but slowly. For some getting Grace is like being hit by a lightning bolt but for others it's a slow process.

[@DanielWard79]

@Martin Ramsbottommay I ask you how your Lenten fast is going? Most protestants don't like to imitate Jesus and fast for 40 days and 40 nights.

[@mrpell]

If men are dead in their trespasses and cannot choose God unless they are born again of the Spirit, what good does it do to implore people to choose the true God of the bible? If they are born again, will they not choose? If they are not born again, isn't it futile to ask them to choose? I'm confused...