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No Backup Plan – Nathaniel Drew

No Backup Plan – Nathaniel Drew

Жыл бұрын

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This is a conversation with my dad where we discuss growing apart and the tensions that appeared in our relationship as I was becoming an adult, and how we’ve overcome those tensions to become close again.
My hope, in sharing this conversation, is to show that there is a better, more emotionally intelligent way for men to communicate with each other. It’s not easy, but it can lead to much deeper, more meaningful relationships.
I hope you enjoy.
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@BeneaththeSurfaceYT
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT Жыл бұрын
It was a tough conversation, but I am so grateful that we could have it, and that we have arrived at such a great place in our relationship. A very difficult experience, but also so rich in all the gifts that it gave us. The entire journey, from the moment we hit the road till now, has ultimately all been worth it. Love you so much. ❤
@karin_annv.290
@karin_annv.290 Жыл бұрын
I think you are special and so is your son who has become the person who he is also because you raised him and he is the man he is now also because of what you experienced together and that is incredible important ❤
@mystical_cupcake
@mystical_cupcake Жыл бұрын
You are an incredibly brave, vulnerable, and beautiful soul. So much love and respect for you and your family 🙏🏽
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT Жыл бұрын
@@mystical_cupcake Thank you so much. 🙏❤️
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT Жыл бұрын
@@karin_annv.290 Thank you!! 😊
@Practice_Kindness-1st
@Practice_Kindness-1st Жыл бұрын
This experience sounds like it bonded all of you as a family. Thank you for letting us in on such an intimate moment between you. 🙏
@helenee.5462
@helenee.5462 Жыл бұрын
I’m so impressed that your father took accountability and responsibility - I think that’s really rare. Most parents that feels attacked blame their kids and pretends to be the victim. But he stepped up. It also takes guts to stand up to your father, and challenge his views. I don’t know you guys but I’m still so proud of you.
@christina9238
@christina9238 Жыл бұрын
"Most parents that feels attacked blame their kids and pretends to be the victim ".... THIS.
@TenTenJ
@TenTenJ Жыл бұрын
This is not necessary in public.
@charlottea0157
@charlottea0157 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you!!
@christina9238
@christina9238 Жыл бұрын
@@TenTenJ its a healthy demonstration of conversation. Neccessary ? maybe not. Helpful? Sure.
@MishaElRusito
@MishaElRusito Жыл бұрын
The fact that you can calmly talk about your bad experiences with each other in the past, speaks volumes. Not everybody, especially not every father could swallow the ego and just normally talk and listen to the son saying "dad, you were bad, you did this wrong". Many fathers (at least in my country) have that father ego thing where the father can't be wrong and they are not trying to hear anything that ruins that picture, especially from their child. Kudos to your dad!
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT Жыл бұрын
You’re the best, Rusito. We all love your comments and having you along on our journey of exploration. 🙏❤️😁
@MishaElRusito
@MishaElRusito Жыл бұрын
@@BeneaththeSurfaceYT ❤🙏🤝
@pouetpouetdaddy5
@pouetpouetdaddy5 Жыл бұрын
and does Son, especially the gen z and millenial ones, can swallow theirs ego? Nope, they will make a video about their soooo special hurt feelings.
@davidgallo2098
@davidgallo2098 Жыл бұрын
Bro! Excuse the ignorance of a simple viewer who knows nothing, but dont let your Dad take all the responsibility. There was not a single moment where you owned up to mistakes. Your dad loves you so much, he's completely surrendered, also honor him and give him place as your dad. I can see how from this experience, he may have had failures but he's taking all the blame and giving you a free pass, again he loves you so much! Thank you for sharing.
@equatorialjourney4478
@equatorialjourney4478 Жыл бұрын
Hear, hear ! The arrogance of the son is quite mind boggling & the way he spoke over his father was quite revealing . But,it’s also easy to see why the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree w these two egos . Let’s see how much hubris junior has learnt when he faces the same convo w his own 20yo kid .
@minou2
@minou2 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Nathaniel's condescension and lack of self-reflection is glaring next to his dad's willingness to accept blame for everything.
@susanharkema2888
@susanharkema2888 Жыл бұрын
Actually, I think this was a mature entrepreneur's failure in planning and execution that threw his son into the maelstrom of delivering on a big contract with no outside help. Nathaniel did take responsibility for how as a 20-something, he didn't handle what happened well either. But, it sounds like if it wasn't for Nathaniel's ability to rise to the occasion despite this experience being with his own father in a professional capacity, this project would have been an epic fail and the closing of his dad's career. What's beautiful here is that they both got to experience each other as humans. I wasn't able to accept my father as a person with his own shit until he had a major stroke, and life made him a little more humble. Nathaniel got the value of knowing his dad as a person early in life. His dad broke through a whole lot of ego and life barriers through this experience that has made ALL of life richer and better. It was crucial that he take responsibility because it healed his entire family. Just my sideline 2-cents, cheap analysis from years of my own personal and father therapy work. Bravo for both of your bravery to share, be honest, accept each other and the past, and to create new selves in relationship.
@davidgallo2098
@davidgallo2098 Жыл бұрын
@@susanharkema2888 love your take on it as well. Agree with everything you just shared. I come from similar background with my dad and we’re in a very similar phase now as Nathaniel and his dad. It was just my opinion that on this video he could’ve added a bit of balance.
@pce12345
@pce12345 10 ай бұрын
What a little brat. He'll regret that one day
@stevenoliver7613
@stevenoliver7613 Жыл бұрын
This conversation was beautiful yet very challenging to watch and listen to (I checked out the podcast) in that it felt very one sided. All if the vulnerability, admission of past mistakes, talk of personal growth and so forth was expressed by the father. It felt like other than talk of being aggressive Nathaniel doesn’t admit to any character flaws or the ways in which he contributed to the dynamic which didn’t seem fair. The father has to listen to very hard words which he processes and owns in beautiful fashion. Nathaniel doesn’t have to endure anything close to that in return and comes across with a kind of arrogance and self assurance that in fairness as a person closer to the fathers age I’ve come to associate with youth. Someone who has not yet lived through the kind of heartache that can come with age, loss and aspects of decline. To be clear I am a huge fan of both men whom I find to be brilliant and I’m thankful for this content. It could be that the mutual vulnerability that I wanted from Nathaniel in this conversation is expressed in other videos and podcasts. I’m just sharing one perspective of how I experienced this. I encourage Nathaniel to hold onto this conversation and listen again on his 50th birthday to see if he picks up on any of what I’m poorly trying to express here.
@bnovick3194
@bnovick3194 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@hjdreams1429
@hjdreams1429 Жыл бұрын
Agree 2
@fionabrown3428
@fionabrown3428 Жыл бұрын
Agree, very well said.
@elizabethfelton1973
@elizabethfelton1973 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, they are talking about a time when Josh wanted to be seen as this hero by Nathaniel and then basically bailed on managing the situation that he set up. Sometimes the adult needs to take responsibility for a situation. Nathaniel does admit that he was angry and didn't handle it well, that seems to be enough. For those of us that weren't there we don't know how harsh Josh was towards Nathaniel, and again when he dumped responsibility for his project on his son.
@Bluetangg
@Bluetangg 11 ай бұрын
One of the prime things the son can’t admit is the inherent unfairness/fantasy of expecting your parents to be perfect. That’s an impossible expectation and kids get so angry at parents when their true flawed humanity disappoints them. It’s just youth and immaturity.
@aurorap.7578
@aurorap.7578 Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing that was said "That's very difficult to hear" instead of being defensive I wish I could see that in my parents.
@EveningTV
@EveningTV Жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to see a father like this take such responsibility for the mistakes that were made. I have been around so many people who point fingers and blame everyone else for everything that goes wrong. Our culture has done something to men that has made them feel they cannot admit to being wrong or to not knowing something and so much damage is done to relationships in the process. This is one very lucky son.
@danieldunst9937
@danieldunst9937 Жыл бұрын
Your Dad is such a hero in the way he decided to fix himself after such multilevel fuck up. Also a way to still teach your kid something that he might need at some point of his life. Enjoyed the podcast.
@SisterSherryDoingStuff
@SisterSherryDoingStuff Жыл бұрын
Wow!? This is the very conversations I've had with my adult son. As a parent it's hard to hear that your child doesn't respect you. It cuts deep. The childhood myth that ones parents are all knowing and perfect can be shattered when they realize that their parents are HUMAN. My son recently said that he wonders if he'll ever enjoy my company. I've worked on myself - have a therapist and I'm moving forward as I evolve into a better person. I'm sad that this is where our relationship is currently at. But the bottom line here is this: It takes two to change the dynamics of a relationship. He doesn't respect me because I'm not living the life he thinks I should be. At some point this becomes his issue, not mine. This podcast really hit a nerve with me. Grace and compassion are key. I really, truly enjoy Mom and Dad's vlogs. The journey, the way it's presented, all of it. I'm their target audience. I just wish the uploads were more frequent.
@norahheller9518
@norahheller9518 Жыл бұрын
I appreciated your dad's ability to hold his composer. I think you were so harsh with him. like you were still angry or still trying to tear him down. Almost like you felt like you're better than him. Idk.
@peterkelly8357
@peterkelly8357 Жыл бұрын
Mozart, Bach or Rachmaninov?
@nicoleschyns
@nicoleschyns Жыл бұрын
You are both so incredibly brave ❤ love your honesty, vulnerability...the fact that you can talk about it in this way with each other is so special and beautiful to see. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼
@teetertotter5787
@teetertotter5787 Жыл бұрын
The depth of self-awareness and commitment to growth here are so beautiful to witness.
@FluffySoftSoffy
@FluffySoftSoffy Жыл бұрын
What really struck me in this conversation was the part in which your dad said he realized "he was not special". I think that we all make the mistake of thinking that our worth is deeply tied to our work, our achievements, external measures of success. To me, Josh (Mr. Drew?, haha), you are so very special in the way you handled this difficult episode and your ability to learn from it, to change, to communicate the hardships. Very few people have this emotional intelligence to learn from it, going to therapy, doing the work and you went beyond that : you exposed yourself in front of strangers and opened up. Chapeau, Josh!
@fernandonicolasszeliga8919
@fernandonicolasszeliga8919 Жыл бұрын
I agree that there isn't much content like this on the Internet. I appreciate you sharing this video. However, I don't particularly agree with the way you address your dad sometimes in the conversation. I feel that if you are actually over that experience you could have used less harmful words to describe your feelings, especially for a KZbin video. The respect has to always be there for your parents. I understand the intensity of that life experience and how hard it must have been but saying that you didn't respect your dad anymore because of a project gone wrong is pretty harsh. That was a learning lesson for both of you and I'm sure it benefitted you drastically having all that responsibility for the project as stressful as it was. I'm glad that you two have found each other again and now have a good father and son relationship. All the best.
@seaofsolace
@seaofsolace Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and moving conversation!! One of the best I have ever seen between two men. It also had the additional emotional charge of being a father and son conversation. These types of conversation are so difficult to have and you made it look easy. Josh was so gracious. It was impressive to watch. You are setting a beautiful example for other men. For other fathers and sons. Wow!! I am in awe of you two. So much self-awareness, vulnerability, compassion, support and emotional intelligence. Bravo...and thank you so much for sharing it with us. It gives me hope for men in this world. ❤
@EvelynBaron
@EvelynBaron 9 ай бұрын
Tx for this candid interview with someone you love so deeply Nathanial. My Dad was almost 50 when I was born and a kind of legendary force for good, WW2 resistance fighter my parents met as Europeans here in North America and if I have anything to contribute to a moving exchange I took my Dad for granted because he represented optimism and paradoxically safety for my mum, a strong person who survived the holocaust. When my Dad developed late onset alzeimer's I was privileged to be there for him. An inspiring conversation. My Dad was an inspired raconteur and looked after other people before himself. Tx for reminding me how lucky I was.
@coolpersonwithcake98
@coolpersonwithcake98 Жыл бұрын
I'm going through a similar situation with both of my parents at the moment. I hope some time away will fix our issues.
@ApiieceofKaii
@ApiieceofKaii Жыл бұрын
This is so important!!! People rarely discuss the point in moving from childhood to adulthood where you see your parents for who they truly are. It truly feels like a spiritual death…thank you for sharing!
@sarahedgar8812
@sarahedgar8812 Жыл бұрын
You really did win the lottery. How great is your Dad for owning it and bettering himself. The self-reflection from both of you is really admirable.
@MamaCocaSF
@MamaCocaSF Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting and ironic. After 20-25 years of enabling, it took Cecilia to raise Nathaniel to eventually get Josh mature, creating stronger bond between family members and transforming those life lessons into meaningful and long-lasting relationships. Sincere public conversations, like venting are extremely potent and liberating for the soul… Thank you 🙏💞
@mermommy9
@mermommy9 Жыл бұрын
What a massive soul your father is! I hope you can be even half as courageous as he is when your future son comes in contact with your humanity, like you have with your beautifully imperfect dad.
@sarabirns9860
@sarabirns9860 10 ай бұрын
Every single person goes through watching their parents fall from hero's to normal people who fail. I know Iv'e gone through this with mine and it was bad. We have a good relationship now, but we never talk about what happened or reflect like this. I'm grateful and feel more healed watching you two reflect on your experience. After watching this it made me realize that I think most of us do go through this parent/ child shift. Our parents are only people.... let them be people. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Your dad is a great man and also just a person like you and me
@iamkevinkouassi
@iamkevinkouassi Жыл бұрын
34:53 It isn’t that you can’t make people change, is rather that you must change for others to do the same. In these frustrating times, it is difficult to look at ourselves in the mirror (because we believe that others put us in these precarious situations). Frustrations are signals for hidden opportunities for us to grow. I’m glad that you guys found your way back to each other. Great conversation!
@raenakim-geyer
@raenakim-geyer Жыл бұрын
When the relationship does not evolve, it cannot adapt then it dies. So many parents don’t allow the evolution of their relationships with their children, so much conflict comes from that. Sometimes things have to be “destroyed” in order for it to be created a different way. Great conversation! Honesty = clarity. Your father is taking responsibility. Bravo.
@IAmPeterCook
@IAmPeterCook Жыл бұрын
_"A crisis is a negative label we place on a period of change where you are required to face some hard truths. And if anything, that's a great thing."_ (52:28) That summarizes this vulnerable conversation perfectly. I am grateful that the two of you were willing to sit down with each other, speak candidly without holding back, and pull back the curtain for us to listen in. It's easy to picture an alternative scenario where you would not have reconciled. Instead, your dad did the work with a therapist and took _"actions that spoke infinitely louder than any words"_ (38:53). Impressive, it must be hard to face the fact that you lost the respect of your son and swallow your pride. This was a moving conversation, I hope it will inspire many viewers/listeners to practice introspection, possibly sit down with a therapist, and do the work to better themselves and live with more intention. Thanks for sharing, Josh and Nathaniel!
@ale.rdp1
@ale.rdp1 Жыл бұрын
I envy your relationship with your father! I wish I could speak so honestly non judgmentally and openly with my parents. You have a very rare and precious thing going on with your family. Take care of it. Abrazos desde México
@bellaluce7088
@bellaluce7088 11 ай бұрын
This was deep, wise, and moving. ❤The false belief that "specialness" is required to be respected and loved is such an important myth to shatter! And the analogy about therapy being like athletic coaching was spot on. Thank you for sharing!
@LennonZA
@LennonZA Жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful conversation. I regret that I don't have the same access to my father to have an honest dialogue. Thank you for sharing.
@jesperhallas
@jesperhallas Жыл бұрын
I really resonate with the notion of challenging your own ideas of who you are. I love what your dad said at 48.39: "If there's anything you feel attached to then you have to look at it. Why am I so attached to that? Why is that so important? And how is it keeping me from so much else?". - Very important lesson right there. Thank you for the podcast. :-)
@jess8935
@jess8935 Жыл бұрын
I am always in awe of the deeper conversations you’re able to have with your parents. My parents are both emotionally unavailable and it’s hurts. This was a great episode!
@MishaElRusito
@MishaElRusito Жыл бұрын
You are the only FAMILY I follow on KZbin and feel a connection to. And it takes time, started with Nathaniel videos 2 years ago and now I follow the whole family. And I just feel like everytime I see you guys, I learn something new and find so many things I can relate to. It's not very easy to find friends or people with a similar mindset or similar values, so listening to y'all is like I'm having a conversation with you right there in that room. Just glad there are such amazing human beings on this planet like you are and that you share it with others!🙌
@cavumine
@cavumine Жыл бұрын
Wonderful content. At 57, I’ve been a preceptor to many adults in healthcare. I’ve learned that in order to grow, to learn (as an adult) one must allow vulnerability, what you call “opening up.” For men in certain cultures, that vulnerability (as you’ve shown in other videos) is often a breaking point. Your Dad clearly wanted to be “special;” I’d argue that he is, but more accurately, he wanted to make a mark in his profession. He wanted to be a savior, the leader, THE GUY. But he had deficiencies in his learning that were no longer hidden. You saw them, and he was not willing to own his deficiencies, and be vulnerable to your teaching. I’m proud, on your behalf, to allow him to fail. You didn’t allow the project to fail, because it was a reflection of you, but you allowed your father to fail. I’m so glad he found the edge of the cliff and felt the fear before he fell irrevocably. BRAVI!
@Rando327
@Rando327 Жыл бұрын
I was emotional in all of this episode. Thank you, both of you, for having the courage to share this online, and for inspiring me to have an honest conversation with my parents. Sometimes we forget that our parents are just as humans as we are, and we need to remind ourselves for the sake of our families and loved ones.
@mickandtraceycope7826
@mickandtraceycope7826 Жыл бұрын
Nathaniel, you said some really tough things for your Dad to hear, but it highlighted just how much your Dad must have hurt you too. Great conversation. Talking about can only have been a good thing for you both. Loving the work from both of you. 🎤🤜🤛🎤
@ruarifinn
@ruarifinn Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this after watching your dad’s journey to his 50s. I want to say to him specifically that he may not be “special” to the world, but each of us is “special”to some and to some whom we may never know. And to Nathaniel on growing up, it happens when we begin to see our parents as mortal human beings with all the faults and all the goodness of which we are all capable. Then it is possible for our parents to become our friends.
@mikelongco
@mikelongco Жыл бұрын
Came here in the same way, and to say something similar. Josh, you may not be "special" in the specific way you wanted to be. But you are absolutely, positively, 100% "special" in a completely different way. You are showing all the men of not just a certain age (I'm 53, so right there with you) but all ages, how to move in this world as a man - the right way. How to open up, how to be vulnerable, how to accept failure, how to learn, how to grow, how to admit to your humanity to your children, how to take responsibility... I could go on and on, but I'm sure you get the idea. You ARE special Josh. 99+% of men can't and/or won't do this. As someone who has walked a similar path, made similar errors, and is continuing to do the difficult work of accepting responsibility for the mistakes I made - both in my life in general, and with my own now 20-something child, you possess a rare quality this world needs more of. Please don't stop. Don't stop learning. Don't stop growing. Don't stop examining. And most of all, don't stop sharing. The world needs you. You got this.
@livzyful
@livzyful Жыл бұрын
In our family we have a different but maybe not so different scenario. I am the grandmother and my husband is the GRANDfather. He has been so successful in virtually everything he’s done. I can guide him to an extent but he has very little humility and is judgmental about others who accomplish less. If he joins a company in a low position, he rises to become CEO. Several times. If he builds furniture, it is of such high quality that I’d challenge any furniture maker to do better. He can be generous as we are with our three children, one of whom is severely brain injured. He built a group home which we donated to our local ARC so that we became empty nesters at age 72. As he’s facing physical limitations , I can see how little prepared he is to be less than outstanding. Listening to you two has been delightful. I am happy for your whole family. Bravo to your dad for freeing himself and all of you to become more genuine and comfortable with the vulnerability that makes us all human.
@Hey_its_Dre
@Hey_its_Dre Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly powerful to see your Dad own up to his mistakes. I am in a heartbreaking situation where my Mom cheated on my Dad as I was entering adulthood - in turn, and probably to preserve some dignity, my Dad has pretty much abandoned all three of his adult children. Some of his most hurtful words were “I’ve done my job as a father, my kids are raised and adults. My job here is done”. I try to sympathize with my Dads pain after a bitter divorce with my mom, but I can’t ever imagine seeing myself be done with my kids ever! You are very lucky to have a Dad with introspection and insight. I can still sense some anger on your part with your dad, but man what I wouldn’t give to see my Dad have the love for me like your Dad has for you. I make the effort to see my Dad twice a year and every time I walk away realizing the relationship is one-sided and all I am doing is grasping for something that just isn’t there. Your Dad is genuine and owns up to his mistakes and that really speaks to his character. Great podcast!
@chioma5633
@chioma5633 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is fascinating. This sounds like an incredible story
@mwellmwell
@mwellmwell Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how lucky you are to be able to have a conversation like this with you father. Mine has zero semblance of self-awareness, any and all conversations with him are completely surface as he doesn't have the capacity for any more than that. I love your dynamic and bond.
@jocaz4931
@jocaz4931 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Nathaniel! This is so relatable. When breakdowns happen, it is such an opportunity for people on both sides of the story. Incredible content and it is of such service to your audience!
@AddictedToMyDesires
@AddictedToMyDesires Жыл бұрын
thank you both for sharing this. I wish this kind of conversation could take place in all families. This is so healing.
@thesparkedlife
@thesparkedlife Жыл бұрын
I have worked as a therapist, trained in body centered psychotherapy and this conversation made me cry, it was so beautiful. Bravo for your openness, vulnerability, commitment to growing as humans and your courage to confront things that are hard and a huge THANK YOU for showing people what can be on the other side. I love this.
@agyos
@agyos Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I greatly appreciate both the father and son KZbin channels, and this conversation, while difficult to watch in places, was simply a gift! Thank you!
@shaistaali9802
@shaistaali9802 Жыл бұрын
Still watching this. Its incredible. The conversation, the emotion that can be felt through the screen. This is so raw . Thank u for this video
@dionline88
@dionline88 Жыл бұрын
I subscribe to both of your channels and am so impressed by not only the videography of both channels but the depth to which you both will delve. The story of your parents leaving the US is a huge undertaking and that path has led your parents to grow closer... look at what they've gone through - together - to get where they are today! Your own path to moving to France is quite the story, as well. I feel blessed to have found both of your channels. Thank you - both!
@claravonessen5673
@claravonessen5673 Жыл бұрын
Love your vulnerability and the kind of humans you are. So humble, bravo, guys.
@kathy2910
@kathy2910 Жыл бұрын
Good for him! He worked it out and his new channel is fantastic. I look forward to them! You both are good at what you do :)
@DoYouSalut
@DoYouSalut Жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate the frankness and honesty your family share. I'm hoping to parent like this when i have children. thank you both for sharing your story.
@wendywilson-fall3973
@wendywilson-fall3973 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely wonderful! Among all its outstanding qualities, the video shows the love that is possible between parent and adult child as they both continue to grow. In it I found great affirmation. Thank you for this video!
@Thenextphasemusic
@Thenextphasemusic Жыл бұрын
This was so insightful in so many different ways. Love to see the respect and empathy you are able to show each other after doing all the tough work over the years.
@aleksandrawitkowska299
@aleksandrawitkowska299 Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful conversation. Thank you for your bravery to share these vulnerable moments with us. ♡
@MrFacucastino
@MrFacucastino Жыл бұрын
I wish I could have a conversation like this with my own dad. You two are a great example to a lot of people. Thank you so much for this amazing share!
@venusias4243
@venusias4243 Жыл бұрын
I relate so much to this. I had a very complicated relationship with my mom for years, and now we’ve both grown by ourselves and together, it is amazing how people can transform when they are willing to, even if they identify themselves as inflexible, she amazes me every day. Thank you guys so much for sharing such an intimate moment.
@barbdowns1
@barbdowns1 Жыл бұрын
Wow - so much growth is just readily apparent in this whole conversation. One of the hardest things to do as a parent is to stand back and allow our kids to struggle, especially when we may be able help alleviate things somehow. The truth is, as our kids grow into their own paths in life, it requires us to become more “consultative” figures in their lives who are available to our kids when they call on us, rather than being “directing” authority figures who are trying to keep them out of harms’ way. It takes a shift in us AND a shift in them. From what I heard in this discussion, you’ve both made the transition through that life passage very well. Sometimes we have to let things that aren’t working fall apart so we can grow from the soil the lies underneath the wreckage. Thank you both for your vulnerability and for sharing an excellent example of great communication that can be had in a family. ❤
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT
@BeneaththeSurfaceYT Жыл бұрын
Beautifully put. 🙏😊❤️
@auggied6760
@auggied6760 Жыл бұрын
A good, loving, sane father does not lose respect for his son, but for Nathan to lose respect for his father requires some deep introspection. A father expects his son to learn and keep learning, but the bar is set much higher by the son for the father who is unfairly placed on a pedestal. None of us are perfect. Fathers and sons make mistakes. I think the greater concern is when the father or son creates suffering; this is a completely different problem to have. Otherwise both father and son need to give one another some space to try and fail and succeed.
@virtualcoffeeshopmusic9752
@virtualcoffeeshopmusic9752 Жыл бұрын
You have a gift which is your father, our father is our king!!! from Afghanistan!
@Lu._.Soriano
@Lu._.Soriano Жыл бұрын
This level of communication is HUGE. I had so many insights on how I feel myself through your experiences. I inmensly respect your vulnerability. Thank you!
@ConniBiesalski
@ConniBiesalski Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful conversation! Having a parent that does therapy is huge. Hopefully the norm in the future! Stoked about your upcoming course!
@yvonnebirch6026
@yvonnebirch6026 Жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful and rare example how it can be when father and son truly communicate. So brave of both of you. I love the honesty and I love your family ! Thank you ! 🙏💕
@eileencronk7520
@eileencronk7520 11 ай бұрын
Your natural story telling abilities is what makes me come to both your channels. You both reel me in.
@mindiwilhelm4322
@mindiwilhelm4322 Жыл бұрын
Every family has struggles. Being honest about them and working to resolve them sets you apart. Thank you.
@VeraGolosovaArt
@VeraGolosovaArt Жыл бұрын
As a mother of a 6yo son and a daughter to amazing but humanly in-perfect parents, I always have a thousand of thank yous for any material you publish with your parents. It gives both perspectives from a position of an adult child and a parent. And it is treasure! Also it is a very raw and vulnerable insight into how you operate as a family and it gives a ton of thoughts for me when I think about my own life, family, choices, lowest lows etc. This particular idea struck me very much - that there is no room for a change, when you are drowning and suffocating and being on the survival edge. Thank you a ton, Nathaniel, for the creative path you keep choosing here on KZbin and bringing us with you!
@lolamaria2255
@lolamaria2255 Жыл бұрын
That was beautiful, thank you for your vulnerability. Especially as men, it is so important to show up confident in your emotions! Thank you!
@jlanguage7315
@jlanguage7315 Жыл бұрын
This was incredible. Very healing for me to hear as a daughter and helped put a lot of things into perspective, that I know I will help me carry forward in some of my relationships. Thank you for sharing and being so vulnerable
@organic-artistic
@organic-artistic Жыл бұрын
I loved this podcast so much. Truly. Thank you for your honest vulnerability. My parents are gone and you’re so blessed to have each other ❤
@AD6DMDennis
@AD6DMDennis Жыл бұрын
A very vulnerable conversation, and I greatly appreciate your sharing it. When SHTF, you go to your lowest level of preparation. Great resonant words.
@pabloconsiglio7403
@pabloconsiglio7403 Жыл бұрын
I felt very represented in your relation and in your dinamic from 2018 to now. Amazing interview guys! Thanks for giving us an open soul and genuine interview
@LookingForAdventure
@LookingForAdventure Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful conversation between father and son. A practical example for others to experience honest, emotional, meaningful sharing.
@rs2447
@rs2447 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful Nathaniel 🌱 I've been watching your channel for years now and I'm so grateful to you and your dad for opening up like this. I'm sure I'll reap more insights as I let my brain unpack all of this, but almost immediately I realized that my most recent crisis is just me coming to face with hard truths-- only I can hold my fears and faults to the light, and free myself from them. Beautiful lesson, thank you 🌻
@Lobstrique
@Lobstrique Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this podcast! i discussed it with my mom, it was a really nice bonding opportunity for us :) we had a rough patch too and i can relate so much to the notion of good strong relationships being the result of overcoming shit situations and learning from them, and appreciating each other more for it
@beeheart6324
@beeheart6324 Жыл бұрын
Self Compassion is so important! It leads the way into wisdom, love, gratitude for what life offers us, what we have. Thank you for your open chat! Something incredibly precious and it's so good to see that you both know how precious that is!! Humanity is on a good way for sure😀
@rosygomezsales
@rosygomezsales Жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing. I started to follow you and i believed i watch all of your videos. Now i follow your mom and dad. Amazing what they are doing. Admire the courage to do what you guys do and the transparency. Seeing how honest to the process and being open on the conversations that most of us try to get away from, it is so encouraging. Keep creating and sharing. God bless you and your family.
@egomez7850
@egomez7850 Жыл бұрын
wow the journey you and your father have gone through especially being in the same field. 30:50 talking about the bubble popping on your view of your parents I think most people go through that and it’s life changing good and bad. So vulnerable yet such a universal experience honestly.
@radostinageorgieva800
@radostinageorgieva800 Жыл бұрын
What a magnificent conversation! If all parents and children had the ability or worked towards the ability to speak so openly and with such love and care, the world would be a great place! Thank you both for the vulnerability! :)
@anthonyfox477
@anthonyfox477 Жыл бұрын
Bravo gentlemen! It's these kind of monumental experiences which shape us forever. For Nathaniel, it was a chance for him to step into his power and explore his innate gifts, while also witnessing the ability of people to do tremendous work on self-awareness and transformation. For Josh, it was an incredible opportunity to come face to face with ego delusions and attachments to fantasy which ultimately limit us from our true expression. And for both of them to sit together and reflect in a real yet empathic way is such a powerful demonstration of what's possible in terms of intimacy, trust, humility and family.
@LavenderHazelwood
@LavenderHazelwood Жыл бұрын
OMG, I wish I could have these conversations with my parents. I really resonate with not respecting behaviour that my parents have but there is no way I can talk about it with them. And it does affect our relationship but they are not willing to look or to take responsibility for themselves. They are untouchable. This is so wonderful to see. Thank you for modeling what a healthy dynamic can be between 2 human beings. Your dad sees you as a separate human, worthy of respect and that is gold. xo, Aurora
@jean6151
@jean6151 6 ай бұрын
Nathaniel, your dad is SO special, and it shows in the way he speaks, the words he speaks, and in his composed and calm nature. This is a rare quality I see in very few. I see now why you yourself are so incredible
@BaiLiStacey
@BaiLiStacey Жыл бұрын
We need more of this content, especially such open and vulnerable conversations among men or with men.
@sicklecellwithdr.o
@sicklecellwithdr.o Жыл бұрын
Love how your dad holds himself accountable.
@catherinedominguezfisher3907
@catherinedominguezfisher3907 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this conversation. Your vulnerability means a lot
@sabrinacortellini6922
@sabrinacortellini6922 11 ай бұрын
the courage to seek the inconfortable in order to grow pays off, meaningful relationships, thank you !
@aledelmar2557
@aledelmar2557 11 ай бұрын
You guys are amazing at communicating and showing your vulnerability to the world. It was helpful to me in the sense that you put words to thoughts I have. Thank you for that.
@lis_shirina
@lis_shirina Жыл бұрын
switched to YT from Spotify because it felt necessary to see you both. Thank you, Nathaniel, it really is helpful to see what might be behind good parent-child relationship. Made me understand some important things for myself.
@lynseychristensen2340
@lynseychristensen2340 Жыл бұрын
Loved this episode! Relate so much to so many aspects of your story, experiences, and feelings throughout the episode.
@saraennis1402
@saraennis1402 Жыл бұрын
This was so vulnerable and interesting to listen to. Thank you both for sharing
@marciamartins1992
@marciamartins1992 11 ай бұрын
I wish my brother and dad were able to talk like this. It's important to get past these things, and to the light on the other side.
@sallywashington3691
@sallywashington3691 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nathaniel. I've noticed a trend in all your videos on both channels. There's this palpable tension between capturing vulnerability versus letting it flow, even if it interrupts the flow of the intended video production. It's like trying to fit a container of a beautiful edit over a rawness that keeps leaking out the sides. Watching you and your dad (both videographers) go back and forth trying to reconstruct a pivotal moment in your lives is funny, strange, inspiring, and awkward at the same time. I keep coming back to your videos to see how you (try to) resolve this tension between realness and prettyness
@michellerivera1710
@michellerivera1710 Жыл бұрын
If a parent could teach the most valuable lesson it’s accountability, apologizing, and courage to change. I’ve been disappointed by my parents so often that the gap has widened between us. If they did the hard work to prioritize their mental and physical well-being, we’d probably have an amazing relationship and break that generational trauma. Thanks for this video and thanks to your dad for his vulnerability. It’s absurdly admirable.
@allyson--
@allyson-- Жыл бұрын
@certinho76
@certinho76 Жыл бұрын
I wish my dad was still alive. You have such a great dad and great family for that matter. I'm so glad that you guys are all in France now and have left the United States. This was very inspiring for me to hear. I'm very impressed that your father took accountability and responsibility as well. My family would never do that. They would get really defensive!
@StevenERice
@StevenERice Жыл бұрын
Thank you both for sharing such a powerful conversation. As so many has said, it is incredibly valuable to see two men-a father and son speak with such clarity, self-awareness, empathy and grace. And in someway, I think that this interview helps me to understand both of your art better. And I will enjoy your channel content and connect with it in such a much more profound way.
@charlottebonavia9157
@charlottebonavia9157 Жыл бұрын
I felt like this towards my Father until I became more fully grown and could see him as a fellow human being with his own foiled programming... You both are really beautiful humans and are living extraordinary lives in front of us.....❤️❤️‼️🙋🏻‍♀️
@svetlanatikhonova8741
@svetlanatikhonova8741 Жыл бұрын
i was waiting for this podcast so much!)) thank you, Josh and Nathaniel, for being sincere and real with us and each other. super valuable conversation 🤍
@dianejohnson6914
@dianejohnson6914 11 ай бұрын
You're podcast was so honest and incredibly helpful to me. Thank you!
@sofiaserenac8520
@sofiaserenac8520 Жыл бұрын
wow thank you for sharing this so vulnerably, truly. it gives me hope that I'll one day be able to have a conversation like this with my parents ❤
@learnenglishwithdayamudra704
@learnenglishwithdayamudra704 11 ай бұрын
Wow. So much rich content here. Patience, commitment, vulnerability. We cannot change one another, but when we do our own work to grow and evolve it impacts all aspects of our lives. "I won the lottery..." Thanks to you both for this courageous conversation.
@daphshares
@daphshares Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your story and your experiences with so much vulnerability. that is really inspiring.
@tiziano.27
@tiziano.27 Жыл бұрын
Hermoso todo lo que cuentan que aprendieron a lo largo del tiempo, juntos e individualmente. Gracias por compartir su experiencia, y permitir expresarse genuinamente, es muy lindo de ver 💕
@isabt4
@isabt4 11 ай бұрын
Wow! I am so impressed with your conversation! You are both so brave! About your comments at the end, that you do this for yourselves, I think we all mostly do things for ourselves, it's just part of being human and natural, although it takes time and growth to accept that. I so identify with your father, and his words have actually helped me see things in myself, but I don't want to go through something so excruciating (although I have in the past) that destroys your self identity. This conversation that you have bravely and generously made public is tremendously helpful. You are an awesome family! Sending you all tons of love ❤
@inhale.exhale.2527
@inhale.exhale.2527 5 ай бұрын
kudos to pop man. an open, honest heart. from there it can only get better. 🙏
@momione11
@momione11 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could have the same conversation you have with my dad. Had needed it. Because this has hung like a shadow and a truama over my whole life. It then continued in relationships. But fell apart in August 2021. It was the turning point in my life. Even like you to accept others as they are. My father died when I was 14 years old. This year I will be 49 years old. This needed to surface and heal. Which it did. Also see my patterns clearly. Now I'm on my way into a new freer part of my life. Opened my eyes. Getting to know myself. I disappeared when I was seven years old. So time to go out into the world with experience. Thanks for a great vlog, podcast episode. They also helped my healing. Was thinking of having a little ceremony tonight for my dad and me. But also move on and live my life.
@paulwoerlen6328
@paulwoerlen6328 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this has blown me away. Thank you for this important topic. Excellent video and message.
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