An Eye-Opening Conversation with Podcast Legend Tim Ferriss

Thanks ‪@timferriss‬ for joining us on the show
Tim's Newsletter -- tim.blog/friday
Tim's Foundation - saiseifoundation.org/
Tim's Pod - open.spotify.com/show/5qSUyCr...
1,000 True Fans - kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-...
00:00 Who is Tim Ferriss?
01:25 Tim’s first memorable guest and learning how to podcast
05:04 The evolution of long form video podcasts
09:25 Why Tim has resisted video
13:06 Optimizing workflows to play the long game
15:58 The cons of public recognizability
16:53 Why Tim wanted to appear on our show
18:35 Our relationships with fame
24:17 Parasocial relationships in long form content
28:21 The paradox of permission and the half-life of fame
35:06 How to vet an ad partner for your content
55:17 Holding off on monetization
58:25 The 4-Hour Work Week
1:00:27 Tim’s investing & equity history
1:04:34 Tim’s ad rate pricing strategy and CPMs
1:07:32 Quality content, value, & public view counts
1:10:40 The risk of taking equity deals
1:13:49 How Tim vets his show guests
1:22:49 Tim Ferriss vs The Tim Ferriss Persona
1:28:28 Don’t be the best, be the only
1:33:10 Is there still space left for new podcasters?
1:35:41 17 Questions to Solve Your Life Problems
1:40:08 Fear setting and how it can help you
1:51:15 What Tim would like you to check out
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[@SenpaiKai9000]

Whoa!! I don't think the younger crowd understand how huge of a Icon Tim is. Thank you for sharing this with us Colin and Samir!

[@its_raavi]

I've been listening to Tim for a long time, thank you guys for interviewing him 👍

[@GEMSofGOD_com]

U must be an i--ot to not understand the catchiness of "4-hour" headline, the number of billionaires behind "tools" and the rest

[@tawsifakkas]

To see Colin and Samir interview one of the bests in the game - and outside of the typical KZbin circuit - is not only incredible but inspiring. Thanks C&S. Only way is up.

[@its_raavi]

I've been listening to Tim for a long time, thank you guys for interviewing him 👍

[@ThinkMediaTV]

“Choose a game you can play for the long term.” - Tim Ferris Thanks C&S for this episode with Tim. Knowledge is everywhere, but wisdom is rare. Awesome to hear Tim speak into the creator economy. Appreciate you! 👊🏼💯

[@its_raavi]

I've been listening to Tim for a long time, thank you guys for interviewing him 👍

[@BrendanEvan]

That single concept explained why I burned out last year. 3.5 years of KZbin try-hard Mode and enough is enough. Just hit 4 years and I’m making far fewer videos and only those I WANT to make.

[@grannyronna]

Great interview. Amazing insights. I love how he discussed fear-setting and the benefits of imagining worst-case scenario so you can manage your own fears.

[@HONESTGUIDE]

"Don't be the best, be the only" really struck a chord with me. The whole interview was excellent. Very happy Tim decided to more social than solo. Thank you all for yet another amazing show!

[@DarrenLevy]

Years ago I used to work in corporate sales for a very old school company. I didn’t fit into the culture there and in my process of looking for something more fitting to my wants and needs, Tim’s podcast was a warm friend who kept me sane. Now, working full-time as a content creator, Colin and Samir keep me sane in this space too. Thanks for the quality guys, this episode rocked!

[@joshuamckelleher6520]

DARRENNN KEEP UP THE UBER CAR RIDES

[@SpencerCornelia]

Huge fan of Tim Ferriss. This is amazing seeing you guys get him on as a guest. I've listened to his 17 questions podcast numerous times as it always helps open my mind to my blind spots.

[@thatllwork_official]

There’s so much in here even for someone who doesn’t do podcasts. Great interview! Thanks guys!

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

Idk it was pretty boring as a service based business owner

[@VioletEmerald]

​@user-nj1zu2nf1x I'm a service based business owner too and I'm surprised the word boring came to mind. This was all really interesting

[@FTAMT]

I just gotta say - I love that y'all put so many chapters in the videos! Makes it so easy to go back when you can't finish a vid!

[@TheJordanK]

If only everyone did this. Especially for long form. I think I leave the video if they don’t have it sometimes 😂 If I’m gonna watch this for this long I want to know very roughly if it’s gonna be worth it. So ya I’m with you on that.

[@ericrussell1744]

100% agree. Especially for longer vids like this one.

[@thebrandonvu]

This has got to be my favourite Tim Ferris interview. I love how you guys came at it from a different angle and asked him things he’d never discussed. I felt giddy with excitement when he turned the tables back on you guys asking how you approached your own strategy for question asking. Top notch interview guys! Keep it up.

[@FerdinandZebua]

"We need words to fill this part of the board because when we film interviews it looks too empty and we don't want our subscribers to think that we don't have important things to say that would fill a board." Love it! 🙌

[@thenextlayer]

Fantastic interview. Tim was much more likable than I've seen him in the past (and I used to his #1 fan)... seems like he's really grounded right now, which I like. You guys did a phenomenal job.

[@TommyGMcGee]

This interview is worth it’s weight in gold

[@rawan.jahjah]

I watched this over the span of 24 hrs.. I wanted each part to sink in. You guys continue to deliver impeccable public knowledge with the guests you talk to and the conversations you effortlessly create. I feel so happy and touched when the guests compliment you. Also, I literally laughed out loud when Samir asked Tim's special question towards the end 😂

[@diegoc.ynfantas]

Thank you for this guys, It's so rare to have Tim on the other side of the table. You guys did a great job in the interview. This is something that I will rewatch multiple times.

[@MattEstlea]

Such a great episode. I read 4HWW years before I even considered starting my own business. But I can't help but recognise, whether it's through internalised learning or confirmarion bias, that many of the concepts taught in the book directly correlate to my decision making in what I do. Regardless, this podcast was a great reminder of how much I still have to learn. Thank you all 🙏

[@DinaLu]

This is exactly what I was thinking! Read the book years before starting my business. I was so in awe of what the book taught I think it was ingrained in my unconscious.

[@3khoDance]

Never heard of a creator vetting their potential ad read with such detailed and thorough process. Learned so much! Thanks guys.

[@Muhluri]

All those finance KZbinrs need to take notes

[@LauraTryUK]

One of my absolute favourites! I’ve followed Tim’s work for years! I am reeeeaaaaaallly looking forward to listening to this! Just started. Here we go! 🔥

[@2350J]

as a podcast producer, the 1 hour mark to the end is absolutely priceless. Thank y’all for leading such a phenomenal conversation

[@carolspencer6915]

Hello to you three fab people Thankyou for this shared discussion. Mental Nurse😀 requiring a change in lane after nearly two decades. You guys here on KZbin and more have REALLY saved my sanity professionally and indeed much more. Most grateful. Eyes nearly wide open. New fresh worldly eyes at that. 💜

[@NonnativeCreative]

What an incredible discussion. Tim is a truly great interviewer. This was a masterclass on so many levels! Amazing, deeply inspiring talk from start to finish. Will absolutely be re-watching. Thanks to C&S team and Tim for making this happen!

[@TheCreatorsAttorney]

Colin and Samir meeting you guys over this weekend at your creators event was so amazing. Seeing your rise and being able to interview people like Tim Ferriss is so exciting and I’m so happy for you all. I was there last year when you hit 1 million of that some of that was such an electric special special day. I know you guys have not given up and kept pushing on and pushing on in. You’re such an inspiration to other creators like myself. It’s people like you that inspired me to walk away from traditional Hollywood to open up my own law, firm representing creators and helping them negotiate their brand deals. I don’t like the fact that creators are out there wing it on their own without any protection and this is the most meaningful work I have done in my entire career as an attorney. The creators economy will only keep growing, and I am so grateful that I started my channel a year ago. Samir a year ago you told me that if I try to become an attorney that represented Creator is that the niche would be so small. I’m OK with that but I also think that you guys hitting 1 million might indicate that maybe the creators space and creating content for creators is not as niche as it used to be. 🎉🎉

[@RenataPereiraTV]

This conversation is pure gold. Needs to be rewatched every once in a while 👏👏👏👏👏

[@redajai718]

I didn't know you guys prior to this podcast with Tim. Thank you so much for getting us to know much more about Tim and the podcasting industry as a whole. I will be coming back after this. Your way of analyzing and asking questions is amazing and really brings the best out of guests.

[@karimasanti]

Love the shoutout to Dr. Sue Johnson! Her interview with Tim changed my life ❤ and his results with that episode should remind male content creators not to sleep on female guests and fans!

[@TheNewTravel]

Superb interview. Tim Ferriss is one of the best interviewers in the game, and it’s fascinating to see him sit down on the other side of the table.

[@tobinhaasdehejia]

I seriously cannot get enough of your guy's content. I usually listen to the longer interviews while driving and while I am hesitant at first if theres an interview with someone I haven't heard of, I always get such valuable information out of it and get so invested. I'm so glad I found you guys a little while back. Please never stop.

[@omjill.]

Halfway through and am just in awe at the conversation here. Thanks to all three of you for this crossover event and incredible content. I think Tim's outlook on advertisers is fascinating.

[@RobertNowland]

Tim is such an interesting guest to have on as someone who bridged the gap from traditional to new media and has so much unique experience, couldn't be more psyched to see this unexpected collaboration happen with the MVP's of the creator world!

[@thehumblewolf]

Been following Tim (Tim Talk Talk) since 2010, he’s pioneered (mainstreaming/influencing ) so many industries. Podcasting, drop shipping, subscription boxes, easy meal prep services, fitness influencers, probably many more. His books (especially 4hchef, my desert island book) and podcast interviews opened me up to so many smart books and creators; he does Not get enough credit imo. Shaped my world view in my 20’s and is a big part of why I’ve finally been accepted into an entrepreneurial program this year. Goal of mine to speak with him one day!

[@beckwilde]

Couldn’t help myself from smiling ear to ear watching this 🫡 a legend!!!!

[@ElbowsTight]

Tim is so inspiring on the amount of work he does before ever pressing record. Asking "What will make this time the most valuable for you" is something I will be adding to my chat before pressing record from now on!

[@randomindianguy]

Honestly was not expecting how in depth Tim would be going into vetting advertisers and guests. Insanely detailed pod! Great work, C&S!

[@TheBackpackingBiologist]

I hope this ep blows up. There are so many great nuggets of info in here. I've been a Tim Ferriss fan since 2015 and now I can safely say I'm a big Colin and Samir fan as well

[@hugoowona]

As a podcaster myself, this was a very valuable episode - thank you Tim, Colin and Samir for sharing your knowledge

[@agametedua]

WHAT?! SUCH a universe crossover. I'm ready for a full listen (you got a 100% retainment viewer here). Great initiative guys, thank you :)

[@humbleinthejungle.]

Tim freakin' Ferriss, what a legend. Fantastic interview! Great show, guys! Thanks a bunch.

[@SociallySoundDJ]

I'm a marketing guy for DJs who's now 136 subscribers into my KZbin journey and has had a newsletter for two years. I've just watched this in two parts and I've taken away a lot from just my own enjoyment. Next time I listen to this is with a sharper and a few pieces of paper to make some notes. Great work guys.

[@SeekersofUnity]

Great convo. Thank you guys.

[@MaxReisinger]

Great episode, thank you guys!

[@ericrussell1744]

Such an unexpected collab but the most excited I've ever been to watch a Colin & Samir episode.

[@byrnaaliciahernandezsolis276]

Gracias por compartir 💕💕💕💕 puro Nogalitos sonora 💋💋💋💋 Byrna 🔥🔥🔥🔥 2023❤❤❤❤

[@joyelvin7145]

I hesitate to click & listen and then it turns out to be one of your best. Thanks

[@AIPixelFusion]

Man so cool to host Tim Ferriss especially given how influential he's been for you all (and myself)

[@DJRaphi]

3 legends in a room.

[@richardmoore6078]

I'm watching this for the second time around. I also collect quality questions for both self-reflection & to upgrade my conversation skill-sets.

[@MakeEverything]

What a valuable conversation. Thank you for doing the good work!

[@kayjaylin]

View No. 28! Lets go! Tim Ferris definetely a creator without being a creator.

[@christine_Bru]

Amazing! Thanks guys!

[@bobreynolds]

Absolutely killer conversation, gentlemen. Long time Tim Ferriss fan and it’s so nice to see him here.

[@BrentPinkston]

Super Useful and Inspiring conversation. So many gems.

[@RetroNerdGirl]

I am so happy you interviewed Tim Ferriss. I think he's incredible! Great interview!

[@jippylip1309]

Yep! I bought a Helix mattress because of Tim's ad. Best decision of my life.

[@whostammam]

been watching y'all for a min and I just wanna say you guys are super cool and the amount of value you bring to creators with these interviews awesome, keep killing it!!

[@SachinKhona]

Thank you for the FREE (!!!!) Masterclass. Unbelievable. Very grateful. Tim, you're a special human.

[@Muaddibkhan]

Thank you so much guys for this episode, Tim's voice is so soothing what an icon. Amazing conversations👏

[@RoyishGoodLooks]

What an epic pairing! I would love to hear Colin and Samir interviewed on Tim's podcast next!

[@LeahandLevi]

This was an incredible interview. So cool to have this for free on youtube. 👍🏻

[@gordondewittjr2347]

Solid again, guys! Thank you.

[@TohirT]

I’m rewatching it again, because I feel like i missed things by passively missing it the first time. Every minute of this interview is gold!

[@isabellewellman]

First video I’m seeing of yours- love hearing Tim’s perspective!

[@emilychertow6178]

Epic. Tim Ferris is the reason I found and went to an off-the-grid healing retreat for 6-weeks. He briefly mentioned it in an episode that he went and experienced this, I looked it up and I, myself went. It changed my life.

[@jakemclachlan6271]

Great work fellas. Amazing questions that created one heck of a conversation.

[@jeanpaulfung_]

Hands down one of my fav interviews of all time. Thank you all 🙏🙌😍

[@austinbrady]

Such a valuable conversation. Didn't plan to listen to the whole thing but I made it to the deep end. Big fan of Tim Ferriss!

[@justinjesser]

This was one of the absolute best! The content and convo was something that I hoped you'd dive into... delivered 100%!

[@chillydoog]

I love you guys. Such a facinating convo.

[@MicahErumaka]

This was very beautiful to listen to 🎉... Nice one guys

[@RyanWLucas]

As a podcaster myself, THANK YOU for this episode. Huge fan of all of you and I learned sooooo much in this episode. 🙏

[@md8way]

This is one of the best podcasts I’ve seen and heard in a long time. Extremely informative for a podcaster working on episode number 19 and very entertaining. Tim is in a class all his own

[@suri4Musiq]

Wow.. i didn’t expect this at all! Thanks:)

[@bhrawii]

Tim is a payoneer in a lot of areas. His tips have had an objectively positive effect on my life. Great interview, guys!

[@josepalma8937]

This is the best interview I've seen in a long time! Epic C&S!

[@andrew_rubia]

The most informative video I have watched in regards to podcasts and the creator business. Absolute gems of knowledge.

[@ashleighbhole4573]

Great interview guys!! This is the first time I've watched (and quite honestly heard of) you guys. I watched because it was Tim...BUT I'll definitely be adding you guys to the queue going forward. I really love your insight and interesting, unique questioning I haven't heard elsewhere.

[@thiagoliguori]

This is one of the best podcasts of the year! tks guys! : )

[@drewhitchcock]

I got to say, it's been about 6-7 years since I listened to a Tim Ferriss Interview that I enjoyed this much. Thanks so much Colin and Samir!

[@ricflomusic]

Iconic interview, thank you!

[@TellMeWorld]

Well done guys . Fantastic rhythm and proximity. Tim brings me back to the 2000s , he's one of the greatest

[@helloryantanaka]

Excellent conversation guys. I could feel the respect you guys have for Tim throughout the entire episode.

LOVED how he asked you about your own interviewing dynamic! Even in an interview about him he manages to make the most interesing questions! Thanks for this, guys.

[@preethradhakrishnan2792]

Excellent interview, huge credit to C&S and TF!

[@martinmenesestv]

Thanks for bringing Tim! He's books are awesome and as a creator he is one of the bests 👍

[@NafisSadekeen]

This is the second time I am listening this podcast and I can't make you realize how important this podcast was for me. So much valuable information and insights all for free. Thank you guys ♥️🔥

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Great interview! I love the question about battling the Tim Ferris persona!

[@mimimoungovan9238]

omygosh he looks SOOOOO HEALTHY! so great.

[@TheMoShowPod]

Tim is the best! Love how he has no problem sharing all his industry related secrets! A true wealth of knowledge

[@chadwalkaden6375]

Crazy to think about the reach and impact Tim has had on the world 🙏

[@turyatembamartha8034]

Absolutely love when wise minds come together ❤ Thanks Colin & Samir

[@giovannimaldonado2275]

First Beast and now the OG Tim Ferris...wow! Just the best!

[@giovannimaldonado2275]

This is like watching a All Stars game. A reunion of titans!

[@brandontrue813]

Remember on your Rhett and Link episode, where you talked about types of experiences that are validating to you based on what was exciting or impressive to you when you were growing up? At least for me (and I'm guessing for you too) - getting TIM FREAKING FERRISS on the show must be one of the most validating things about your business ever! Keep it going guys!!

[@ranplan]

This interview will change a lot of things I do. As well as start several things I’ve put off. Thanks!

[@brilliantvoiceovers]

epic conversation definitely watching this again. wow

[@lewysigns]

Love the preview snippets at the beginning.... Way to keep the viewer wanting!

[@EmpathAwaken]

This has been the most valuable piece of content I've listened to in at least the past month.. thank you so much!!!!

[@its_raavi]

I've been listening to Tim for a long time, thank you guys for interviewing him 👍

[@solariatrecords]

Brilliant convo. Thank you for this

[@tusharkhandelwal0709]

What a day to release - this channel and Tim's channel has the same number of subscribers!

[@GCInvesting]

Fantastic pod and great insight!

[@pollyonline]

This was absolutely fantastic. Wonderful guest choice, brilliant questions. Appreciate the work you guys are doing.

[@SahithValluru]

huge fan of Tim Ferris, so this was a really enjoyable watch and listen. Remember reading his book 4 hour work week way back too and subscribing to his newsletter. Loved the insight he provided into his interview format for the podcasts. You guys killed it on the interview and just liked the vibe of the whole thing.