An Honest Comparison between the Bambu Lab P1S and the A1! Features - AMS Units and Noise Levels!

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Directed T3CH

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@jz2188
@jz2188 6 ай бұрын
Have been 3d printing since 2018. Have 7 printers. Got an A1, those 7 printers now doomed for replacement, the ecosystem , quality of prints and pure ease of use Bambu offers will decimate the market of all other manufacturers in this sector as they so far behind Bambu.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@GMCRaptor
@GMCRaptor 3 ай бұрын
I think so !
@salmanrashid6245
@salmanrashid6245 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. Bambu A1 blow them out of water. I have Anycubic i3 Mega and Viper.
@xaviergall2233
@xaviergall2233 6 ай бұрын
I have a p1p that I upgraded to a p1s. I just bought myself an AI too lol. This video was perfect for me to binge while waiting for it.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! You're going to love that A1!
@coyote1311
@coyote1311 2 ай бұрын
AI tool ? Avez vous un lien svp 😊
@ravenmooore
@ravenmooore 2 ай бұрын
Hii, would you happen to know if it's possible to have a non-AMS P1S to be upgraded to with AMS? most instructions are just P1P upgrades..
@Jyizorz
@Jyizorz 2 ай бұрын
@@ravenmoooreyes. The AMS is just a purchasable add-on that you plug into the back of a p1p/p1s/x1c
@meanman6992
@meanman6992 6 ай бұрын
Purchased a P1S a couple months ago, love it. The deciding factor for me was the P1S being enclosed and I nylon
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like you made the right call!
@mistermiagi4552
@mistermiagi4552 6 ай бұрын
Did you notice slight ringing in the X axis? That was my issue with the P1S
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@@mistermiagi4552 I did not.
@MrBiggs-wu2kf
@MrBiggs-wu2kf 6 ай бұрын
I need to print nylon. Are your nylon prints from your P1S consistent?
@gnokketto7423
@gnokketto7423 22 күн бұрын
beautiful comparison, the best I found on KZbin, I'm undecided about the purchase, could you tell me how much real space the A1 needs considering the bed that moves back and forth, is 45cm of desk enough?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 22 күн бұрын
You really need just shy of 70cm for the printer. The printer itself is 41cm and they recommend almost 20cm behind it to allow for bed travel and to keep the cable from getting bent. Plus you need 9 cm in the front. You can read about it in the A1 wiki - wiki.bambulab.com/en/a1/manual/faq#
@paulgittins6724
@paulgittins6724 6 ай бұрын
I've had my X1 for about a year now. Recently, slightly before the sale, I bought an A1 based on a review. I enjoy each of them. It is so much easier to swap the nozzle / heater on the A1. The very first time used my new X1 I selected the Bambu PLA CF filament. At the end of the print I experienced a filament break, about 1/8 inches about the heater assembly. For me it turns out that contacting customer support for Bambu is awful. I have yet to complete a customer service request due to the complexity of the request procedure. On the other hand, I was able to find a video that explained how to remove the filament fragment and I was also able to swap out the assembly. A few months ago I upgraded to the hardened hot end for the X1. Changing that proved to be a bit of a problem because it's just awkward getting the nozzle assembly attached with the heater and the thermal paste. It was a mess. I started doing some Lithaphanes with my A1 and learned that the best way to do this was with a .2 nozzle. Swapping the A1 nozzle was a snap, well two snaps, but it was so much easier than the X1. Coming from roots with an Ender 3 Pro, I had already cut my teeth in printer upgrading and maintenance, so my experience with Bambu was a relative breeze. Now, with the X1 and the A1 I spend my time printing.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@@paulgittins6724 Yes! The A1 is incredibly simple to use and gets wonderful results! Other than the heatbed recall, I have not had to deal with customer service so far.
@CozmoKills
@CozmoKills Ай бұрын
I've watched so many of these 3D printer videos and this is easily one of the best. Thank you for this!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 23 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@notchipotle
@notchipotle 6 ай бұрын
I wish they do a refresh on all the X and P series, the P1 series screen feels super old compared to the newer A series
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@kentkacs3140
@kentkacs3140 Ай бұрын
This comparison video was very well done! Very clear; just the right amount of detail.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so glad to hear that you found the video useful!
@gramcreative
@gramcreative 6 ай бұрын
Great video with lots of useful information. Similarly to you, in the summer I run into humidity issues but having my setup in the basement even with the AC on I sit around 64% humidity. I found that with the AMS system with enough silica gel packets I can keep it relatively low. One day will add the A1 to my collection but for now I'm eyeing the P1S.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Exactly! I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but I do find I use the P1S more, simply because I can look and see that the humidity is relatively low inside the AMS. With the AMS lite, I have no idea if my filament is wet, unless I've just dried it and popped the spools on.
@erniea5843
@erniea5843 4 ай бұрын
Great overview! I’m still not sure which one I’ll go with but this provides excellent information for consideration.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
@erniea5843 I'm very glad that you found the video helpful!
@livewiya
@livewiya Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for a throughout review - this video helped me make up my mind! While I really wanted a P1S, I have a one bedroom apartment. The living room serves as my office during the day, and the dog sleeps in the living room at night. I catch myself thinking I'd find ways to make the P1S quieter - but the whole reason I'm looking into a Bambu is so that I spend less time tinkering/modding (Have a modified Ender 2 v2, and a heavily-modified Ender 5 Plus, turned Mercury One.1).
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
I'm so glad I could help you decide between the two printers. I was printing on my A1 today, and I had to go check to make sure I started the print because it's so quiet 🤣
@Arkhangel99
@Arkhangel99 6 ай бұрын
For me, the A1 got the nod due to the ease of switching out nozzles. With AMS lite and being able to switch from 0.2 to 0.4 in about a minute, it has made just simple printing fun without all the hassles of changing filaments, bringing out the toolbox when there is a clogged nozzle, or sweating breaking something. The printer heads are cheap enough i keep a few on hand to switch out if there is an issue instead of spending valuable time trying clean a clog.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@Arkhangel99 Absolutely! It is so quick to change nozzles you don't have to worry about it.
@TheMagicsimi
@TheMagicsimi 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the video and comparing. The reason I don’t know wich one I should buy, is the noise level. Did you tested this with the update and new calibration? And how is you personal opinion. I living in a one-room-apartment and think the p1s is too loud.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that is after the update and calibration. The P1S is not a quiet machine. The A1 on the other hand is extremely quiet.
@TheMagicsimi
@TheMagicsimi 2 ай бұрын
Ty for your quick answer! Guess I will buy the A1 bundle then!
@brianvanzyl9841
@brianvanzyl9841 Ай бұрын
very comprehensive content thank you very much, We are considering the X1 Carbon as our first 3d printer..
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
@@brianvanzyl9841 I think you'll be very pleased!
@israelrobles681
@israelrobles681 2 ай бұрын
thank you Buddy, I had the PS1 on the cart but I want the easy swap of nozzle of the A1
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
@israelrobles681 My pleasure! Glad the video helped you out 😄
@tpusk
@tpusk Ай бұрын
Where did you find the print for the Panda Touch bracket?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
@tpusk Here is the link - makerworld.com/models/189190
@barz1981
@barz1981 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison! I'll go get an A1 combo next week!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
You'll really enjoy it!
@TheCybercrash
@TheCybercrash Ай бұрын
Did you do the sound test with the firmware that supports motor noise cancelling?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
Yes i did.
@TheCybercrash
@TheCybercrash Ай бұрын
@directedt3ch thanks. The P1 is so loud. 10db more so double the noise.
@ivansmith654
@ivansmith654 2 ай бұрын
You can 3D print covers for the AMS lite, and there are videos on this here on KZbin!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
I've seen a few of those that really intrique me! When I made the video there weren't any good ones yet. Now I've seen one with integrated hygrometers!
@TerraMp
@TerraMp Ай бұрын
I would be interested to know if the closed P1S is less dangerous to health? If the P1S uses a fan to exhaust the air from the enclosure and doesn't do it through a HEPA filter, I don't think there is much point in printing in an enclosure. I mean from a health point of view. I'd have the printer in a room, so the VOC fumes problem worries me a bit. The A1 is open, so has no protection.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
That's a valid consideration. I've only printed with PETG and PLA, which I don't think have too bad of fumes. Some of the other filament types definitely can give off some nasty fumes. The A1 isn't suited for those filaments though, so it wouldn't be terribly wise to print them anyway.
@TerraMp
@TerraMp Ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch Thanks for the reply! PLA is also supposed to emit VOCs, just less, but even that can be problematic for a print run of several hours. You mentioned in the video that A1 should not be put in a house. Is this also the case for a larger cabinet? Because the solution might be to put the printer in an enclosed cabinet that is vented with a HEPA filtered fan. Although maybe I could buy the P1S for the price difference and then it would be unnecessary. But from your video, it seems like the P1S is more cumbersome and harder to maintain. I wouldn't want to buy a problem printer.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
​@TerraMp Bambu doesn't recommend putting the A1 in an enclosure due to heat (it doesn't have any fans for the electronics). The P1S does have fans and is designed for the higher temps. It isn't overly hard to maintain, it's just not as open as the A1. I actually use my P1S the most because I don't have to worry about my filament getting too much humidity since the AMS is closed and I have desiccant inside of it.
@TerraMp
@TerraMp Ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch Great! Thank you for help!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
@@TerraMp You are very welcome.
@kripalsingh7365
@kripalsingh7365 Ай бұрын
Thanks this was exactly the content i wanted to see.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
@kripalsingh7365 Glad you found it useful!
@deathscreton
@deathscreton 5 ай бұрын
Do you have links for the mods for your P1S? Thanks for the videos!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure - Here are the links: Poop Chute - makerworld.com/en/models/15350#profileId-18691 AMS Riser - makerworld.com/en/models/19535#profileId-19420 Panda Touch Face Plate - makerworld.com/en/models/189190#profileId-208631 Build Plate Guide - makerworld.com/en/models/206386#profileId-226560
@TheFutureLooksGrimm
@TheFutureLooksGrimm 3 ай бұрын
My ams didn’t come with those tabs to keep the lid tight closed so there is a slight bit open as the lid rests on rubber pieces and the lid sits about a millimeter open.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
Really?!? That's wild! I wonder if that is a recent change. Have you reached out to Bambu? I wouldn't be very happy if my lid didn't lock closed or closed all the way at the very least.
@TheFutureLooksGrimm
@TheFutureLooksGrimm 3 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch lol I feel a little silly but thanks to you I found I had overlooked those levers. They are there I just did not notice them. I just got the P1S and I guess the dim lighting in my apartment and the clear lever made them hard to notice.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm No worries! I don't think I realized that the AMS had them until I saw them on another video and I was like SWEET!
@Gixie-R
@Gixie-R 4 ай бұрын
I started with Crealitys Ender 5 Plus.... Then a Kingroon kp3s to keep me printing while the Ender got BTT'd but that turned into a nightmare thats never ended. So I brought an A1 on its own as i dont need multi colour as a norm, The Bambu A1.... Its like jumping from a deflated Dingy onto a Jetski. Had the assistant tell me the X belt needed tightening and to lub up the screws and rails. Handy reminders thatll keep it smooth.... Although they do get a bit excited sometimes lol.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
Aren't these printers wonderful! It is a night and day difference from printers from just a couple years ago!
@pattyjeep
@pattyjeep 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Got me a lot of insight. I just bought the A1 today. I originally didn't think of buying any printer today. Just went to Micro Center for filament but then 15 minutes before I left the house I saw on their website that they were having deals on Bambu printers. I was kinda thinking of getting one for a while but wasn't serious about it as I already had 3 printers for what I needed them for. Just kinda wanted to try a multicolor printer. I brought money for a P1S but ended up bringing home an A1 after seeing them in person and asking questions and A1 seemed to fit my needs the most. I really like it that it's open for easy access all around it and easy to change nozzles kinda thing. Still stuck in my head though if I made the right decision since I didn't really have time to research before I bought it so I searched on KZbin when I got back home and found your video.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
@pattyjeep That's awesome! I think you'll love the A1. I didn't think I'd do much Multi color printing, but the A1 makes it easy!
@YaNeK92
@YaNeK92 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video! I've been a bit confused as I've heard different things about the noise levels, and funnily enough even Bambu doesn't provide any info on the matter for their P1P/P1S series in the manual or FAQ. I want to place my printer on the desk where I work/study/game and have been on the fence which one to get due to that single noise factor alone. I went from wanting to buy the P1S to the A1 Mini or the A1 haha . I just wish the A1 had a proper enclosure and it would be the perfect printer. What would you do in my situation? Thanks for your help :)
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
I'd say it really depends on whay you want to print (filament wise). I still have not used any filament that requires the heat and enclosure of the P1S. I have printed TPU which works better on the A1 (without using the AMS Lite).
@E.J.Addler
@E.J.Addler 6 ай бұрын
I got an A1 non-combo during the sale to get my foot in the door with 3d printing. Have only had it a week and have over 30 hours printing (to include more technical filaments like PA6-CF). Didn't want to blow my budget because I already have intentions of getting their new rumored "flagship" printer that is slated to release later this year.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to the fun!!
@MrBiggs-wu2kf
@MrBiggs-wu2kf 5 ай бұрын
How do you like your PA6-CF prints on the A1?
@E.J.Addler
@E.J.Addler 5 ай бұрын
@@MrBiggs-wu2kf took a while to get settings dialed in, but once I did that, they turn out great and it feels pretty easy now.
@curtflirt2
@curtflirt2 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am interested in their new printer coming out too, supposed to be a larger one. I think I'll make it my first 3d Printer which probably isn't a good idea but who knows
@alexanderneukam1065
@alexanderneukam1065 Ай бұрын
Thanks, very well presented and good overview. I thought about it long and finally decided for the P1Scombo instead of the A1combo just because of the enclosure and the enclosed AMS unit. Quite a big difference in price, but long term I'm pretty sure this is the better way to go, at least for my needs :). Now I'll just have to see if I also get the Panda Touch V1.0, I didn't see this in any review yet but it looks like a great addition :). Have to check it out. Thanks for that, also! :)
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
Thanks! You'll be happy with the P1S! It's the printer I find myself using the most. If you check out the rest of the videos on my channel, I do have a review of the Panda Touch. It's a great addition to the printer.
@jazon9
@jazon9 3 ай бұрын
Can you easy choose wich filament system you can print with A1? I mean can you choose you print from AMS Lite or single spool holder? I see you have spoll on single spoll holder on A1.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
Yes, you can. Although to use the single spool you need to disconnect one of the PTFE tubes from the 4-to-1 hub. The only time I use the single spool holder is when I want to print TPU.
@z3us226
@z3us226 3 ай бұрын
About to buy a P1S, just curious what makes you think a new printer is close? My luck they will release it as mine ships. 😂
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
@@z3us226 I believe they said there will be a new flagship printer in 2024. So... the clock is ticking...
@MRX-ff4vy
@MRX-ff4vy 2 ай бұрын
@@directedt3chBambu is messing with me, Black Friday sale starts soon but still they haven’t announced anything about a new printer :/ I was originally planning to get a XL printer but now I can’t decide between the A1 and the P1S still… AHHHH
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
@MRX-ff4vy They have pushed back the new printer to first quarter of 2025 😫
@MRX-ff4vy
@MRX-ff4vy 2 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch FFS… it’s gonna be the P1S then 😂
@NWGR
@NWGR 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I already had an A1 Mini and bought a full size A1 because of the sale. No AMS on either unit though. I absolutely love the A1 series. I'm hoping for bambu's next gen P series they implement the A1 tech like the better nozzle cleaning, easier nozzle swaps, dynamic flow calibration, etc. Basically what I'd like is a core x/y A1. Catch you on the next one!
@jmp7624
@jmp7624 6 ай бұрын
I just got the A1 mini to add to my P1S and the dynamic flow calibration is really nice, I wish the P1S had it too. I'm eager to see the upgrades Bambu makes with their next gen printers but I really hope they increase the bed size lol. I was used to printing on a 300x300x400 and 350x350x400 mm print area lol. I really love the A1 mini for what it is though!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
You are very welcome! It'll be interesting to see the next printer they release. It probably will be an amalgamation of all these newer technologies rolled up into one.
@xxxxzorroxxxx
@xxxxzorroxxxx 4 ай бұрын
Do you know when the new printers come out from Bambo I heard it’s in October or November
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
I wish I knew!
@danko6582
@danko6582 Ай бұрын
17:29 the resonance is worse with the AMS on top. The built in rubber feet don't help. And that shelf you printed to raise the AMS higher creates a worst case scenario.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I haven't experienced any such problems. My prints are beautiful. The P1S has vibration compensation so if you run the calibration after the printer is setup in the configuration you use it it (AMS/Riser on top) the compensation takes care of the changes in resonance.
@andriikichmarenko4889
@andriikichmarenko4889 2 ай бұрын
Thank's for your video. Especially for noise comparison!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
@@andriikichmarenko4889 You are very welcome!
@kitkat0981
@kitkat0981 4 ай бұрын
what is the rack that your AMS sits on? would like to print one.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
Here ya go! - makerworld.com/en/models/19535?designId=19535#profileId-19420
@AdamWilsonNZ.
@AdamWilsonNZ. Ай бұрын
i want to get the a1 because it is cheaper. but i have put my previous printer in an enclosure for temperature stability. I've heard that the a1 doesnt have a cooling fan for the internals so it is not recomended to use an enclosre.Wwhat should i do?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
That is correct. Bambulab does not recommend putting the A1 in an enclosure. If you want to print with filaments that require more temperature stability then I'd recommend the P1S or X1C.
@jmp7624
@jmp7624 6 ай бұрын
Great video as always and great comparisons! I really love my P1S and I'm so glad I listened to you and got into the Bambu Eco system. I usually don't mind tinkering with stuff but its SO much nicer to actually spend more time printing and less time fixing the printer! I've had some minor issues but everything will eventually have problems. I'm sitting around 600 print hours on the P1S and almost every issue until recently, has been from a setting I overlooked. I did have a Wi-Fi issue once but never had it again. I'm glad I got the P1S but I do really want the A1 a lot more after getting the A1 mini in the other day. They both have their pros and cons but my mini is so quiet! The purge reflector threw me off for a second on my first print, I wasn't expecting it to just launch the poop across the room like a monkey at the zoo haha. Its definitely really hard to determine the best printer in the Bambu ecosystem though and I think thats a good thing! The X1C has its benefits with the Lidar, camera, screen, and higher temps for a larger variety of filaments but its just so expensive. The P1S has so much going for it being an enclosed Core XY printer and setting up a mini print farm with it is super easy when you can technically fit like 12 printers without AMS's on a 48"x72" adjustable shelving unit. Also being able to print higher temp materials like ABS, ASA is great. Bambu says its capable of printing PA and PC but I'm not exactly sure what upgrade is needed for that when most Nylon's want the bed to be 120C. The A1 gives you the same print volume and basically the same quality that prints 90% of what the average user will print for quite a bit cheaper than the P1S while being significantly quieter too. And the A1 mini is the perfect printer for anyone just getting into the hobby or wanting to pick up an amazing yet affordable printer for their kids or family members. Even though I had larger printers like the SV03, the vast majority of my prints were and still are under 180mm. The quick swap nozzles on the A1 is a game changer though and hopefully Bambu switches their Core XY printers over to that with new releases. I do think the P1P should be discontinued though, the A1 mini has the same print quality and size for minimum $200 less. And upgrading it to a P1S costs more than just getting the P1S. its funny that you mentioned how long it too to assemble your Prusa, my first printer was an Anet a8 that was a Prusa clone and it took me a good 4-6 hours to assemble it only to find out the control board was bad lol. The A1 mini was faster to assemble than my P1S since it was like 6 screws or something to mount stuff on but I don't think the P1S took me more than 15 but I didn't have the AMS. It was about an hour to start printing because of the firmware update, calibration, and having to setup an account. Anyway, a lot of great information here and I really wish I had this video before buying my first Bambu printer! It wouldn't have made much of a difference since I went to buy the A1 combo on the day of the recall lol but if I was starting over right now, this would have been so helpful! I can't wait to see the other videos you make with these printers.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Joseph! Tons of good info in this comment! Happy printing!
@PaSu_FPV
@PaSu_FPV 6 ай бұрын
Rally nice comparison! Can you tell me where you got the printable mods for the P1S?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
The AMS riser is here - makerworld.com/en/models/19535#profileId-19420 The Panda Touch frame/mount is here - makerworld.com/en/models/189190#profileId-208631
@markkranc4478
@markkranc4478 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comprehensive review of these two printers. I was leaning toward the P1S as I hope to print ABS and eventually carbon filled nylon. The A1 is definitely enticing though. Could you please provide a link or information as to where you obtained the riser for the AMS? I see similar printables, but I like yours better. Once again, thank you for taking the time to go through the details of these two printers.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
Here ya go! - makerworld.com/en/models/19535#profileId-19420
@JoCrt
@JoCrt 6 ай бұрын
A useful detailed comparison, thanks.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
You are very welcome!
@edaxucles90
@edaxucles90 4 ай бұрын
I don't which one to buy, please help me to decide
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 4 ай бұрын
It really depends what you want to print (i.e. filament types) and your budget.
@edaxucles90
@edaxucles90 4 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch I bought the A1
@BelfastBiker
@BelfastBiker 3 ай бұрын
Would P1S give me more reliable prints?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
@BelfastBiker I wouldn't say it's more reliable, it just has more capabilities since it is enclosed.
@Red.exe7
@Red.exe7 6 ай бұрын
How is the print quality of the A1 to p1s?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Can't tell any difference. Both are great!
@chesterman18g
@chesterman18g 2 ай бұрын
great video! thanks!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@NunyaBiznuss
@NunyaBiznuss 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they I read that Bambu may expand for the A1 to accept 8 rolls. Not that it's guaranteed, but that's the reason they have the extra port.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch Ай бұрын
Where did you see that? I know the wiki and manual say that it isn't used. No idea why they put it there.... I can't imagine that head draging around twice as many tubes/filament, but who knows!
@Laserwurks
@Laserwurks 3 ай бұрын
I shielded a1 should work with abs.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
@@Laserwurks Give it a go and report back!
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 6 ай бұрын
The mini is the same as the A1 with a smaller bed. My P1S is approaching 3000 hours and I've replaced the print head once. The only real problem is that it lost my wifi network and I could never get it to work again. I finally got a mesh router and plugged it in to my ISP modem and could get the P1S to work with that. I used my phone's mobile hotspot in the intervening months. Not a common problem though from what I can tell so not a deciding factor. It is my go-to printer. Also have two A1's with AMS Lite and one mini. The A1's do a good job but they are limited by the moving bed which makes tall thin items harder. Bed has slightly more real-estate because there is no exclusion zone like the P1S. P1S is 10% faster. AMS Lite is better than regular AMS. A1's do have more problems breaking down, especially if you use a lot of silks and multi-color filaments like my wife does. I've replaced hot end heaters twice, which is a bit of a pain. I'm often having to clear nozzles on the A1s. We must have a dozen of the things lying around. I've had to replace one extruder. I replaced one of the beds when the new bed shipped, but that one's bed had died a week before the replacement came in. The other is still using the existing bed. We'll swap that out if we ever need to, but for now it works fine. ATM my older A1 is having a z-height problem that I'm working on and the other isn't heating the hot end again. I asked my wife to call in a ticket as I'm tired of paying for equipment failures and want to see if Bambu can fix something simple. My wife beats the A1's like a rented mule, so I think her use profile is probably close to a print farm, but my opinion is that if I were going to build a print farm, it would be with P1Ps since enclosures don't work well in print farms (nobody needs an opaque printer with a glass door hanging out.) The mini is too new for me to declare anything, but with maybe a hundred hours on it, it's been a champ.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for all the great info. Sounds like you are really putting these printers through the paces!
@jmp7624
@jmp7624 6 ай бұрын
3000 hours is a lot, you must be selling quite a bit of prints lol! I had that issue with the WIFI on my P1S about a month after getting it and I had to unbind the printer and basically reset it. If getting a new router fixed it for you, its usually something to do with the saved connection settings to that specific device getting corrupted. The P1S is just suing an ESP32 board with 802.11n or WIFI 4 now and its pretty limited hardware as it is so something could have gotten overloaded and corrupted the connection. I see this happen a lot with other devices too and the easiest/quickest fix is to change the WIFI password to the router and reconnect the printer. Then you can change it back so all of your other devices pick up the connection again and then reconnect the P1S again. Worst case you might need to change the SSID instead of the password but its the same process and you can change back after it resets saved data from the old SSID and password for that specific device. I don't know the specific reason behind this since I never looked into it, but I think it has something to do with the router associating the credentials with the MAC address of the device. Since something got jumbled when you forget the network and reconnect, the router still tries to pick up the profile tied to the devices MAC address and changing the SSID or password temporarily resets that and allows for a brand new connection if that makes sense.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@@jmp7624 Thanks Joseph!
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 6 ай бұрын
@@jmp7624 I've printed a lot of Dungeon Blocks for my other hobby, but typically I like bigger and more challenging projects. For example, I just finished a riser for my P1S with 33 plates using ASA and PETG-CF which has probably added another 150 hours, so it adds up. As far as the WiFi thing, I'm not as knowledgeable as you by a long shot, but I did a lot of research and tried everything I found with no success other than using a different network entirely. I don't recall the specifics, but the conclusion I arrived at based on someone's suggestion is that there is a parameter in the ISP-supplied device that you could change by going into the Xfinity web page that was not available from the device interface itself. The person showed pictures of the screen. I tried that, but unfortunately, Comcast had removed the ability to modify the parameter at some point, so I couldn't implement the fix. It was at that point that I started using my phone's hotspot, burning up my data allocation every month without fail. Then I got a three unit mesh system to facilitate better signal to the back of the house and the garage and immediately put the P1S on the mesh without issue. I never had a similar issue with the A1's or the QIDI, or the K1 Max or the Kobra 2 Max.
@MultiTman1000
@MultiTman1000 5 ай бұрын
Great information. I bought the A1 combo. Do you think a person could enclose just the AMS lite in an enclosure and make the humidity problem a lot less of a problem?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 5 ай бұрын
I think it's possible. The PTFE tubing might need to be extended to make it happen, but that wouldn't be too hard.
@waza987
@waza987 4 ай бұрын
I watched a video of someone printing and enclosure for his AMS lite on for his A1 mini. He actually printed it on his P1P as the minis bed was too small. I think it was from the bambu website, same place as you get the poop buckets.
@andreamitchell4758
@andreamitchell4758 17 күн бұрын
33:10 It rubs the nozzle on its teeth or else it gets the PTFE tube again. 🐩
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 17 күн бұрын
@@andreamitchell4758 Hahahaha!!!!
@MrBiggs-wu2kf
@MrBiggs-wu2kf 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@TomAlger.
@TomAlger. 2 ай бұрын
Great video thank you!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 2 ай бұрын
@TomAlger. Glad you enjoyed it!!
@earthsgrip
@earthsgrip 6 ай бұрын
Great video, FYI there is some pretty jarring clipping or resonance panning over to the left from your mic. With headphones it is quite noticeable. But great video, and timely!
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'll take a listen on some headphones to see if I can figure it out :)
@earthsgrip
@earthsgrip 6 ай бұрын
I noticed it by around the 3 minute mark. Again, top quality content, just finished listening
@veryrudeguy
@veryrudeguy 6 ай бұрын
My A1 is struggling keeping the nose clean.. Always some strings from hotend. Even when idling there is something hanging, and when calibrating I it's some string dragging along... I might need to hear with Bambu Lab.. It likes to let some filament out after finishing job and cleaning.. So it's there just hanging
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
What filament are you using and at what temp?
@veryrudeguy
@veryrudeguy 6 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch PETG and PLA, and what ever the Bambu Labs Studio temperatures decides. Bought Bambu labs for sole reason that I won't need to deepdive into settings and calibrations
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
If they are bambu filaments then yes, the preset temps should work without that issue. I haven't seen such an issue on either of my printers. If it is another brand, then you may need to tweak your temps.
@riba2233
@riba2233 6 ай бұрын
That is 100% normal, no worries.. It cleans the nozzle when necessary
@RAPTRS
@RAPTRS 6 ай бұрын
Can you upgrade the camera on the p1s?
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@RAPTRS No. It's less about the camera than the printer cpu/bandwidth. Many people add better external streaming cameras if they want a better video feed but that would require additional hardware and a different app to view.
@dnafpv
@dnafpv 27 күн бұрын
This isn’t a comparison. This is a guy that likes the A1 better telling us why lol
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 27 күн бұрын
@dnafpv I actually use my P1S more than the A1. Both are great machines and both have strengths and weaknesses. Appreciate your comment.
@SignKraft3D
@SignKraft3D 6 ай бұрын
Good comparison and I agree with you on some points. But, really different beasts. P1S will print PLA, including really crappy filaments (99% of the hobbyist use) all year flawlessly. Can't say the same about A1. I run a farm and I know the pains of open bed slingers, during cold months, even the best of PLA's start to warp and shift. For this reason I will choose P1S over A1 always. Not against bed slingers, just think corexy enclosed has distinct advantage. And one final thing, the heated bed cable issue they had, just wait till the bed has done 3000-4000 hours, that cable will go again. I has done for all Prusa's, all creality machines, and every other bed slinger on the plant.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
I agree. Different class of printers and one is almost twice as much as the other. I've also had cable issues with my Prusa MK3. I think it was a temp sensor cable inside the bundle that broke. Took me a few days to figure that one out.
@riba2233
@riba2233 6 ай бұрын
New cable is much better and well engineered, it will last a lifetime of a printer
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 I sure hope so!
@adrianharris2987
@adrianharris2987 2 ай бұрын
Rubbish I print generic pla on my A1 & Mini all, day long never have issues with it
@BenCerro765
@BenCerro765 9 күн бұрын
dude you p1s should NOT sound like that it should sound nice and clean
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 8 күн бұрын
I guess mine is special. It's sounded like that from day one...
@peaceorpieces8343
@peaceorpieces8343 6 ай бұрын
Good video 👍 Im really sad i switched my a1 for the p1s during the heat bed call back. The ams lite was amazing, i had ams lite with the printer. The p1s i have no ams now and i miss it. The a1 was amazing, never had 1 print fail. The p1s has a 85% fail rate so far and is alot more difficult to problem solve and maintain. I would definitely go for the a1 over the p1s in future. My creality k1 runs circles around my p1s and was half the price. K1 print fail rate 5%
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
Wow! I wonder if you have a bad P1S! I rarely have problems with the P1S, aside from the little issues with the poop like I showed in the video. Otherwise it's a very solid printer. I love my A1, but I do find that I print more on the P1S (with the AMS) since it can seal in the filament and help keep it dry.
@peaceorpieces8343
@peaceorpieces8343 6 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch im thinking I must have because my old ender 3 is more reliable
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
@@peaceorpieces8343 Definitely reach out to Bambu with your problems!
@peaceorpieces8343
@peaceorpieces8343 6 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch will do
@riba2233
@riba2233 6 ай бұрын
P1S should be 100% reliable, rma it
@gary332
@gary332 6 ай бұрын
If I had the money ..... I would try to connect the AMS to a A1 mini or alternatively AMS LITE to an X/P. I would then disconnect the pins with a Pin Removal Tool Kit from a PC. so if someone is going to do it who has enough money let me know how okey ;)
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 6 ай бұрын
That would be quite and engineering feat! The P/X series expects only one filament to the tool head whereas the A series expects 4 and then it's routed to 1. You'd have to recode all the extraction commands too.
@gary332
@gary332 6 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch What I actually mean is that both AMS/lite have a cable that must be inserted into your A1 X/P. this is done using a 4 pin cable. the only thing I noticed is that there is a kind of nipple on this 4 pin cable, it is positioned differently and because of this nipple you cannot, for example, plug your AMS lite into an x/p because it does not fit and this is also the case the other way around. the case. but suppose you were to turn these cables around in the correct order. Of course I don't know how many volts the AMS has, I believe 24 volts.
@jazon9
@jazon9 3 ай бұрын
Noise dfferent is drastic.
@directedt3ch
@directedt3ch 3 ай бұрын
It definitely is!
@jazon9
@jazon9 3 ай бұрын
@@directedt3ch To be honest except enclosure A1 have better features that p1s. I like lower noise and easy nozzle change. I seriously consider changing my Neptune 2 to A1.
@docprune9922
@docprune9922 Ай бұрын
Less gable...
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 6 ай бұрын
Both are mid, vorons are better. P1S has false marketing as well. The promotion material indicates it has geared idler wheels but in the actual machine it's smooth.
@riba2233
@riba2233 6 ай бұрын
No, they aren't in general. Both have their pros and cons, but p1s wins overall.
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