An Old Friend Picking Up His Ritchey Road Logic frameset!

[@aintnobodygottime4dat]

That's a great format, interviewing your customers. Really interesting to hear the conversation.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thank You i think it’s a good format too. Unfortunately, many of my customers are either camera shy or reserved and are hesitant to be filmed for my channel

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

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[@chrisscott8362]

RIP Nytro - was a great bike shop. Still ride my Quintana Roo Lucero bought from there. Nice to see a Keeper of the Old Ways with new updated gear. Super Nice Ritchey!! Thanks for the great content George 👍👍

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Nytro was such a great high-end road shop! Lucero! Wow I haven’t heard that bike in conversation for a long time! Thanks for watching!

[@SIvers-or2ke]

Gee. I like this guy’s commitment to simplicity and totally agree. However, I love the idea of getting on an Outback ( with the taller headtube ) and running Paul’s Klamper mechanical disc brakes to keep the simplicity still. Plus he would get larger tire options ( like a 38mm road tire ) for comfort on his back. Either way, I’m envious of his bike and happy for him. Great video

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I love Paul Components! Great stuff! I put a pair of Mini Motos on a customer's bike and man did they perform well! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

[@morristaub3194]

I like the fun name Ritchey gave the frame color, Sally's Macarons, but as soon as I pulled mine from the box at home my wife said, so, you decided to go with a Bordeaux for color this time. I didn't know what to call the color before. Now it's Bordeaux or burgundy. They both seem to fit. Took mine out for a first shake down ride last Friday. Damn, it felt great. Good luck to Mark with his. I'm sure he'll love it. Oh. One more thing. Based on my other road bike and the measurements I decided to order a Nitto S-92 inline seatpost. Centered my saddle. Once adjusted for height placement was perfect. It felt great on my first ride. I'll need a few more rides to make sure. I just love Nitto stems and bars. Now, my first Nitto seatpost. Excellent.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Nitto makes beautiful simple, elegant and classic pieces. Your wife can call this Ritchey, or any other bike, any color she likes as long as you get to buy new bikes ...N+1 Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

[@rosomak8244]

"Real man" don't name colors. Real man talk RAL code numbers.

[@markganzer]

George, it was great to see you and get to chat again! While I will agree that carbon frames and wheels, disk brakes and aero cockpits are technically superior (and “sexy”), they come with the penalty of added complexity. To me, there is a beauty in a simple steel rim brake road bike. And it ridiculously easy for me to maintain a rim brake road bike with external cable routing. Living in Southern California (dry) and being a larger rider that rides custom alloy wheels with higher spoken counts (28 or 32 rear), I never encounter conditions where I lack enough braking power.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

it was great to see you as well! I agree with you on so many points. They call me a Retro Grouch but honestly so many "new and improved" things are simply not necessary to enjoy a great day out on the bike. I can't wait to see your Road Logic built up. Send me a few pictures and I will post them on the channel. Thank you for your business and your friendship over the years!

[@WowRixter]

Beautiful bike Mark

[@mathieublandin5231]

It checks all boxes for easy maintenance and home mecanics . Bsa BB, external cables, 27.2 seatpost, you can fit whatever you want. As it’s a steel bike, no removable derailleur hanger. What could fail ?😅 We see a nice Celeste Bianchi in the background. Could you présent us this one? À Columbus tsx frame?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Correct there is nothing to fail and all simple and elegant construction. It is a Bianchi from 1987 I think the tubing only says "Chro Moly" I will check though

[@pipoann]

I got the new road logic as well in a 55. As for shock-absorbing seat posts - go for the Ergon all road carbon post. It’s the split one they also fit on canyon endurace. It came best by a mile in flex tests and I swear by it and put it on my road logic. Smoothest rise of my life and traveling with me to Laos for work and ride tomorrow.

[@markganzer]

As I mentioned elsewhere, the Ergon has a recommended max rider weight of 220 lbs. I am currently at 215 :-/ Also it is not flex I wanted as much as dampening. I was dealing with pinched nerve in L5-S1 joint that was excruciating painful every time I hit a pavement joint. The rubber cushion in the eeSilk+ is just enough to dampen those hard road shocks.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello Philip thank you so much for chiming in on the Ergon All Road seat post. I think I will get one for my Outback and try it out. Thanks for watching!

[@markganzer]

The other issue I saw with the Ergon is that it probably optimized to an average rider that is considerably lighter than l am. The CC eeSilk+ has interchangeable rubber inserts that allow you to tune it based your individual rider weight and amount of dampening desired. Again a “Clydesdale” rider problem :-/

[@pipoann]

@@markganzerI guess, I mean they make the endurace in big sizes and fit the ergon post throughout but yes, I am sure a weight limit applies. Good luck with your new setup!

[@pipoann]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoadcheers. I am curious to see whether you can fit a 32 tire on your road logic as you suggest in the vid. In my mind the tight spot will not be the fork or rear but the brake caliper. I am running conti 4s 28s on 25 mm rim and it’s not tight but anything above 30 will be.

[@MontyWoo64]

George, I love your videos. I wish I could get a pair of those HED wheels in the UK and some of your gorgeous weather!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Yep the weather is amazing here! We pay through the nose for living in San Diego but I can’t think of another place to live with beaches, mountains and deserts all within a bike ride away.

[@hardmtnbiker]

It’s so true that tire and rim width choice is what really matters. I also think that custom wheels are something to also consider.

[@markganzer]

Being a “Clydesdale” rider, I am very careful with my wheel selection. I have broken my share of spokes on rear wheels with 24 or fewer spokes (even on an old carbon-alloy Zipp 808), so I stick with custom-built 28 or 32 spoke rear wheels with alloy rims.

[@bonbonflippers4298]

I'm no heavy weight but I prefer spending the cash on custom wheels when buying expensive wheels. I just feel you get more for your money amd durability. After riding on 24h aluminum wheelset as my gravel wheels that was custom built I just find custom wheels are built stronger than off-shelf wheels.

[@ian_pedalz]

Easily fitting 30mm tires on HED Ardennes with 4mm of clearance left on cane creek eebrakes, on my new 2024 ritchey logic I got from George. This new frame just rides so nice, everyone should own a rim brake ritchey, truly a beautiful riding bike! And for the price it can’t be beat.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Aww thanks for the shout out 📢 I’m so glad you took a chance on my recommendation. As they say if you know you know 😂

[@ericeinar]

I’ve got a Ritchey road logic #424. Looks nice! Bought for $18 at a garage sale. Steel IS real. My carbon bike can’t hold a candle to my Ritchey.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

OMG! Is that a typo? $18? 😂

[@thedronescene7474]

Hi George. I've had the new Ti Moots with disc brakes for a few weeks now, and I can honestly say that these disc brakes are the best I've ever tried. Before this bike, I had another Ti with rim brakes and a Cervelo S5 with rim brakes, both equipped with Enve 4.5 and 5.6 wheels. Those Enve wheels had a textured braking surface (you can Google it), providing excellent braking even in the rain. I also tested some Hed wheels with a similar texture, and they performed as well as Enve (using DA calipers and special Enve pads). My new bike is equipped with Ultegra 12-speed Di2, and these disc brakes are on another level. They stop incredibly fast, and the brake feel is excellent. Time will tell, but for now, I don't see myself going back to rim brakes. Oh and Tubeless has been great! Super nice and Dynaplug is holding strong.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching

[@andrewhamilton3486]

Once youve ridden the outback you wont consider selling it 😊. Im actually considering sizing up on my road logic. From 51 to 53cmm. More stack with only 5mm more reach. May get the rim brake version. Fitting 32mm on my disc road logic. Great work too 👍 👏

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Higher stack can be a good thing for sure! Let us know how it goes. Thanks for watching!

[@StanEby1]

Wow! You know Mark Ganzer! How cool is that!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

ha ha yup! Thanks for watching!

[@lenkomsa1399]

Very enjoyable video!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching Len!

[@gianpaolocunha]

Nice video. I use Canyon seatpost S14 and S15 for a more smooth riding. It works amazingly well...

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Is that the "same" seat post as the Ergon All Road?

[@doughorner5730]

That jammed all the way back on a set back seatpost seems out of the ordinary to me. I would want to address that.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching Doug

[@n22pdf]

Congrats on the lovely Ritchey dude.. Love my steel rim brake bikes.. one of them my beautiful 2023 Condor Acciaio Columbus spirit, rim brake brake, campy chorus is a dream to ride.. for road rim brake is best.. disc for gravel in mud and off road.. in my opinion.. I have disc on my titanium gravel bike. Tubes for me to 😊 I’m a dinosaur but works for me 😊😊 Pete

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching Pete!

[@jonathanellis1842]

I dream in another world the bike industry would have not taken the turn that led us to SL8 and the like. The Road Logic rim, with a Mech groupset is something that just seems so right to Me but at the same time wrong (where would you source DA 9000- DT Swiss Oxic 32 wheels?), as it seems like its from a long gone and now outdated era, of simple but beautifully crafted bikes.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I agree with you. Sadly we may need to start riding Campy being they have rim brake groups still

[@WowRixter]

Ride what you like. Great that Mark knew what he wanted and wasn't swayed by all the marketing hype

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Indeed! I hope you are well. Thanks for watching

[@WowRixter]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad all is well. Looking forward to riding outside, soon

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

⁠cheers mate!

[@stibra101]

Ritchey WCS Flexlogic seatpost is amazing!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Indeed! Although the viewers have got me interested in these other seat posts Ergon and eeSilk now lol Thanks for watching!

[@DonkeysRChaos]

Can you do a bike profile on the bianchi that you have in the background.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Yes I plan on it at some point. It’s my oldest bike 😊

[@davidide1525]

Love the videos. I have a question for Mark. I would like to know if there are handling compromises in using the Swiss Cross ( cantilever brake ) as a road/gravel bike ? I have a Moots road bike , all mech.disc.Campy and would like to replace my Raleigh Willard 4 disc brake aluminum frame with a steel rim brake frame. Thanks, Dave

[@markganzer]

Sorry did not see your message earlier. I have a Breakaway Cross, not a Swiss Cross. The BA Cross has 7mm higher bottom bracket, but the 60cm version I ride doesn’t feel twitchy all.

[@jfrunner1]

Simplicity... ❤

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Yes! Mark must have said it at least three times! Thanks for watching!

[@nursultansaljakbaj9401]

I love steel, RIM ❤

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Me too! Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing

[@nursultansaljakbaj9401]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad RIM is like hairy women 🤣😅

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I’m confused I thought you liked RIM?

[@nursultansaljakbaj9401]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad In general i like to ride. Dons't matter where🤓

[@byc1013]

Imagine a day when George doesn't talk about Ritchey :) Will be an omen

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

It gets the clicks. What can I say 😂 Every Ritchey shoots up to the #1 viewed video 😁 but seriously I love their bikes and I now own 4 Ritcheys with a backorder in for my 5th Ritchey a Road Break-Away 😁

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching!

[@jayobannon5359]

I am sold on the ergon seatpost

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Is that the one that has a split in the main shaft and no moving parts at the saddle clamp?

[@jayobannon5359]

yes, Canyon uses it@@SeeYouUpTheRoad

[@markganzer]

I looked at the the Ergon seatpost, but it has a rider weight limit of 220 lbs.

[@reginaldscot165]

Nice 😎

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thanks for watching Reginald!

[@barrytantlinger1033]

Am I the only one not enamored by either of the colors Ritchey offered this year? The green Disc is especially lackluster.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello Barry, you're not alone. I am not particularly enamored with the Road Logic Disc green color. However, as I mentioned in the video, I didn't think much of the Road Logic rim color combination until I saw it in person. It struck me as an odd color combination when looking at the pictures on the internet but I really like it now. Thanks for watching!

[@barrytantlinger1033]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad It's a shame for me about the Disc. I really wanted a modern steel road bike (I have a perfectly good rim brake bike and don't need another), but I think when you look at your bike, it should make you want to ride it. That paint job just doesn't do that for me. I also wish the Disc had a little more tire clearance than the rim brake version; Ritchey will tell you it should take a 32, but I would like a more definitive answer from them. It basically comes down to it might depending on your tire/wheel combo but a disc frame should easily clear 32 in this day and age. I'm looking for other options - maybe a Fairlight...

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@barrytantlinger1033you know the old saying - you can’t please everyone. I absolutely LOVE the new rim brake frame colors and so does Jess 😊 It’s different and nobody has anything close to it. And you really need to see it in person it looks freaking amazing! Also there is no reason anyone needs more than 32 tire clearance on a road bike. I’m happy with my Road Logic colors and I’m happy with 32mm tire clearance and so are so many riders I’ve spoken to. If you need more than 32 get a “gravel” bike and put 48’s 😂 just kidding but not really

[@michaelfasher]

If your back gets worse check out Cruzbike recumbents.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

oh those are cuss words around here 😊 😊 😊 Thanks for watching please consider subscribing