An Ordinary Boeing 747 Landing almost Turns into Australia's Worst Disaster | Terror in Sydney

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Жыл бұрын

A Boeing 747 operating as Ansett Australia Airlines Flight 881 is on final approach to Sydney Airport when the flight crew deploys the landing gear. However, the nose gear fails to extend. Believing the gear to be down, the crew elects to complete the landing. Find out what really happened on board.
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@rickyscott9351
@rickyscott9351 Жыл бұрын
I was on this flight. This flight is the reason I have a phobia of flying. I was a small child that had no idea what was going on but could see the worry on so many faces of adults. So I knew something was wrong. It's now 2023 and I still need something to calm me down when flying.
@KateMcAuley
@KateMcAuley 9 ай бұрын
I was on this flight too! Only 19 flying by myself. Still remember every minute.
@rickyscott9351
@rickyscott9351 9 ай бұрын
@@KateMcAuley It was not fun. Hugs!
@geraldlynn1827
@geraldlynn1827 2 ай бұрын
Are you saying you were on this flight that blew apart and crashed into the ocean? How is that possible to survive unless you are talking about the previous flight.
@atzuras
@atzuras Жыл бұрын
Some flight engineer was known, since then, as "4- greens".
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
no, he never worked again and was executed by putin
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Жыл бұрын
Long live the 747, an aircraft that has repeatedly suffered incompetent crews and adverse conditions and still brought everyone home safely time and time again.
@rickyscott9351
@rickyscott9351 Жыл бұрын
Unless it's the TWA-800. Unfortunately, that 747 tore apart, and everyone did not survive. 😢❤
@RoyalMetal9
@RoyalMetal9 Жыл бұрын
They let the plane go with an engine that has a “recent history of high oil consumption” Brilliant. What could possibly go wrong?
@backedupwithtruth7525
@backedupwithtruth7525 Жыл бұрын
Bad management
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@backedupwithtruth7525 Criminal Managlement
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Жыл бұрын
@Snoopy Yes but in 2005. The 747 was rated in the flight manual, by Boeing and by the FAA to be clear to fly with one engine out. The Flight 285 incident was a questionable judgement call as they were simply circling LAX for an hour trying to decide what to do. They could have landed, but BA policy was to penalize flight crews for cancellations.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ Жыл бұрын
@Snoopy A LOT of things get 'signed off' and it's almost commonplace. Usually they are things which don't constitute a hazard to normal flight but not all flights are normal. 3 flights back for me we had to wait for something to get 'signed off' before we could depart- apparently someone had forgotten to do that after deficient equipment was noted. Knowing how things work I was somewhat worried, but I was probably the only passenger on the plane who knew what was happening.
@williamfeilhauer2667
@williamfeilhauer2667 Жыл бұрын
Is this mess for real, I'll never fly again
@richardmartin8998
@richardmartin8998 Жыл бұрын
I was a 13 year old school boy in Sydney at the time this happened. The day in question was cloudy, but not wet. Reading through the ATSB summary later on, I realised that crew mismanagement of the situation was the underlying cause of the accident. It exacerbated the material defects on the aircraft, a leased B747-300 from Singapore Airlines (I think). Ansett was trying to expand into international operations (they were a domestic carrier), to try and take on Qantas (which had been merged with Australian Airlines the year prior). In hindsight, this was the beginning of the end for Ansett. Rupert Murdoch, Air NZ, and TNT holdings asset stripped this airline in the years leading up to their collapse, causing fatigue related groundings of their B767 fleet and regulator intervention in 2000. The airline collapsed on Sep 12 2001, and administrators tried to get a functional service going with its A320 fleet, but it proved unsuccessful and operations ceased in 2002.
@MadroneHumanRights
@MadroneHumanRights Жыл бұрын
Damn, this captain needs post its on his window to remind him that if the landing gear alarm is sounding to do a fly by and allow the tower to confirm. Such madness.
@ecclestonsangel
@ecclestonsangel Жыл бұрын
Everybody lives! Just this once, everybody lives! An exciting and educational video, TFC. I always look forward to Thursdays!
@OwnedByACatNamedC.C.
@OwnedByACatNamedC.C. Жыл бұрын
That’s a spoiler alert that I appreciated!!
@acb747
@acb747 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there...
@ecclestonsangel
@ecclestonsangel Жыл бұрын
@@acb747 hee hee hee I wondered if anyone was gonna catch that!
@AviationJeremy
@AviationJeremy Жыл бұрын
The captain would have been wise to to do a low approach and have the controller visually inspect the gear, but at this point, confirmation bias has set in from the engineer’s miscommunication. He believes that everything is safe for landing.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 Жыл бұрын
I know, right ? That would have been wise & prudent. That damage couldn't have been cheap !
@pishyp
@pishyp Жыл бұрын
Problem is most airlines are so stingy/ strict on fuel consumption and you will find pilots fear losing their job/ license. *Crazy bosses people have to deal with* 😭😢
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 Жыл бұрын
@@pishyp in other words they might get in less trouble for _actually crashing the plane_
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
They didn't seem aware and when ATC told them...too late
@hudsonstraight8628
@hudsonstraight8628 Жыл бұрын
@@pishyp NOT fuel stinginess, they just dumped most of it.
@enigmawyoming5201
@enigmawyoming5201 Жыл бұрын
The FE not saying the nose gear light isn’t lit is like my accountant telling me I have so much $$$ in my account without mentioning there is a minus (-) sign in front of it.
@MontanaDior
@MontanaDior Жыл бұрын
LOL! Great analogy 😫😂
@ricardovazquez1840
@ricardovazquez1840 Жыл бұрын
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@ricardovazquez1840
@ricardovazquez1840 Жыл бұрын
@@MontanaDior 1
@ricardovazquez1840
@ricardovazquez1840 Жыл бұрын
@@MontanaDior 1
@ricardovazquez1840
@ricardovazquez1840 Жыл бұрын
@@MontanaDior 1
@terryhughes7349
@terryhughes7349 Жыл бұрын
obviously, the whole problem initiated by a mechanical problem but the engineer should have been more forceful saying 4 out of 5 green. Execute a fly by to have verification from the terminal. Regardless the captain landed it very well.
@Hartbreak1
@Hartbreak1 Жыл бұрын
The issue was that the flight engineer didn't recognize the problem, that's why when the captain tried to re-confirm if all the landing lights were on the flight engineer only said "yes".
@errorcode6168
@errorcode6168 Жыл бұрын
My issue is if the flight engineer didn't recognize what constituted a problem on his board, he had no business being on that flight. He was useless.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын
reminds me of the Gimli Glider. That 747 ran out of fuel and upon descent, couldn't extend it's nose wheel. It landed safely at an abandoned drag strip.
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
The FE had recently experienced a sprained thumb and was subsequently unable to count to 5 using his fingers. He was later promoted to CFO to ensure the company would not survive bankruptcy.
@davidbeckenbaugh9598
@davidbeckenbaugh9598 Жыл бұрын
@@adotintheshark4848 That was a 767... But, yeah....
@jamesthereaper7
@jamesthereaper7 Жыл бұрын
The flight engineer did not perceive that one of the five gear annunciator lights on his panel was not illuminated when he was asked to check their status.
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 Жыл бұрын
Well done, as usual. Thanks for this, nice to see no casualties.
@marynamurray9385
@marynamurray9385 Жыл бұрын
So happy that there was no casualties!
@clarsach29
@clarsach29 Жыл бұрын
This incident is a bit of a metaphor for Ansett itself- a great airline with a long history which was run into the ground by a combination of management incompetency, take-over bids by other airlines, lack of maintenance and union stubbornness which cost the airline employees their jobs in the end....a real shame as Ansett had been the only real competitor to Qantas' monopoly.
@noneofyourbizness
@noneofyourbizness Жыл бұрын
'only real competitor to Qantas'...which charged astronomical prices nonetheless. i paid AU$1100 for a Per-Syd return in 1989 !
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 Жыл бұрын
If management was incompetent, why would you even set foot on this airline?
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
@@paulkoza8652 The same reason 8.3 million people bought GM vehicles the year before the company went bankrupt. Most people don't know very much.
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 Жыл бұрын
@@jshepard152 You are mixing apples with oranges. Not the same thing.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
@@paulkoza8652 It's exactly the same thing. They patronize the business because they don't know the management is crap.
@mbvoelker8448
@mbvoelker8448 Жыл бұрын
One would think that in this situation of a disagreement between indicators and a known hydraulic problem that the obvious course of action would be to fly by the tower and ask them to look and see if all the gear were down.
@BobBlarneystone
@BobBlarneystone Жыл бұрын
I think the 747 is one of the finest aircraft ever to fly, but like all complex machines it requires diligent maintenance. One thing that I noticed is that both the flight engineer and the copilot were not fully checked out for the 747 in this type of service operation, and perhaps this contributed in some way to the confusion.
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
I flew in 2 747s in the 70s...beautiful plane
@margeebechyne8642
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how they could gently land it without the nose landing gear down. So glad they all survived! Thank you for another great presentation.
@miguelperaza6615
@miguelperaza6615 Жыл бұрын
The weight on the nose is totally incredible , but just to be on the safe side and be professional ? The whole aircraft should have been landed on grass to avoid sparks and heat and possibly flames!
@margeebechyne8642
@margeebechyne8642 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelperaza6615 That would have been ideal, but it was stated they were not informed until they were actually touching down that the front gears weren't down.
@miguelperaza6615
@miguelperaza6615 Жыл бұрын
Four green landing lights can't make the other green one work! No fkn way !
@cindytartt4048
@cindytartt4048 Жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly; despite the issues subsequently noted, the landing was gentle.
@cindytartt4048
@cindytartt4048 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelperaza6615 it wasn’t possible, and getting stuck on the grass, particularly at that airport, would’ve created an entirely different problem. In the end, they landed carefully (though refraining from recognising the obvious problem & acting upon it).
@hachimaru295
@hachimaru295 Жыл бұрын
why didnt they opt for a fly by and eyeball ? they had plenty of fuel and unless somone can say for sure 3 engines would still have done it
@barakatshahkhan3176
@barakatshahkhan3176 Жыл бұрын
Everyone survived by Almighty's grace and mercy and the excellent flying skills of the pilots. Salute and respect to them.
@cattinkerbell4946
@cattinkerbell4946 Жыл бұрын
A flight engineer who cannot even read the display for the gear correctly? Appalling.
@gm12551
@gm12551 Жыл бұрын
Was he fired or reprimanded
@mrichards55
@mrichards55 Жыл бұрын
@@gm12551 Accident reports never recommend disciplinary action even if a crew member was an absolute moron.
@rstidman
@rstidman Жыл бұрын
He could read it fine. This is yet another attempted murder-suicide by a flight crew member, and the industry just won't admit it.
@enigmawyoming5201
@enigmawyoming5201 Жыл бұрын
“Four green lights”… not a complete report. Hearing “Four green lights” and not processing what was said… is criminal.
@iconicshrubbery
@iconicshrubbery Жыл бұрын
.. as is your spelling of appalling 😉
@jmurray01
@jmurray01 Жыл бұрын
A captain who is monitoring a new FO and has a FE who has just qualified? Seems like very poor judgment from whoever put that crew together.
@theycallmetundraboy914
@theycallmetundraboy914 Жыл бұрын
And even further enhanced by the fact that the captain elected to let the FO keep flying during an emergency for "training purposes" instead of taking control. What poor decisions all around.
@BillGreenAZ
@BillGreenAZ Жыл бұрын
@@theycallmetundraboy914 I was going to comment on what must have been going through the captain's mind during this event and then let the FO keep flying. I can understand at first that he wanted the FO to get real world experience in an emergency but then came across your comment on how foolish that decision must have been.
@csolivais1979
@csolivais1979 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was a new FO. Thought they said he was doing his last training flight to become Captain.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ Жыл бұрын
Not really. The Flight Engineer was fully qualified, only lacking solo experience. He should have known his systems. The Co-Pilot was similar, only lacking requisite hours to be certified. Apparently he handled the plane very well. It's actually the pilot not flying who has the biggest workload when landing, and the Captain probably had confidence in his Co-Pilots abilities and so took on the hard job himself. The only fault I can find in this is that they should have requested a "fly-by" so the tower could visually inspect the landing gear as they passed. This is a normal procedure for many airlines when there's a question of the landing gear's proper deployment. And the Engineer should have been more vocal about the low pressure and what it meant, asking for both Pilots to confirm that they heard and understood him. Today's concept and implementation of good "Cockpit Resource Management" would have prevented these errors. Many lessons are learned the hard way but this one happily saw nobody harmed.
@u171098atgmail
@u171098atgmail Жыл бұрын
the problem actually, nobody 'monitoring' the captain, really!
@helencb9940
@helencb9940 Жыл бұрын
Great video! So glad to hear there were no injuries! I love your videos, always love the music too!
@robertzeurunkl8401
@robertzeurunkl8401 Жыл бұрын
12:43 - How in the world, when the Captain has repeatedly questioned whether the landing gear is down or not, how does the flight engineer not notice that the gear indicator was telling him it was NOT down?
@Snookynibbles
@Snookynibbles Жыл бұрын
The captain bore ultimate responsibility. He should have requested a low & slow pass over the airfield for a ground observation report before attempting a landing.
@vipahman
@vipahman Жыл бұрын
What a great example of "correlation is not causation". Great video.
@d716agq
@d716agq Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I don't understand.
@animyosfox8617
@animyosfox8617 Жыл бұрын
@@d716agq I think he instinuates on the situation that the pilot thought that the flaps 25 (or was it 50) setting had caused the landing gear issues, while it just coincided in reality.
@shellyraymond4337
@shellyraymond4337 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are fantastic! The cars and semi trucks going down the freeway and the motor noises are so realistic!
@salamander5703
@salamander5703 Жыл бұрын
There's even a car running into the back of a truck at about 44seconds in!!
@shellyraymond4337
@shellyraymond4337 Жыл бұрын
@@salamander5703 I'll have to rewatch and look for that!
@freewill1114
@freewill1114 Жыл бұрын
They still need to do some work on people walking. Getting better all the time.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 Жыл бұрын
That was dippy. A flyby and inspection of the gear by tower personnel was indicated.
@felineflixie
@felineflixie Жыл бұрын
I never did get to see ansett bit im lucky i was able to see the Qantas 747 a few times before retirement
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. One of the best civil aviation channels on YT IMHO
@2002mikelbu
@2002mikelbu Жыл бұрын
airplanes need external cameras for the flight engineer
@006yt8
@006yt8 Жыл бұрын
Such a huge plane could easily and cheaply carry one to view all landing gears at once if placed at the back bottom far enough.
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
correct, or at the very least have a very clear visual indicator of all landing gear in the cockpit? this is why aviation is so trash as its run by military people who simply dont have brains or common sense
@cinematiceye7057
@cinematiceye7057 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trust that engineer to interpret a video image if he cant see that 4 out of 5 lights is a problem.
@PhillyMotoXTS
@PhillyMotoXTS Жыл бұрын
Flight Engineer: "We have 4 greens" Pilot: "But we have 5 sets of landing gear" Flight Engineer: "But we have 4 greens" He's lucky no one got hurt due to his incompetence
@riogrande5761
@riogrande5761 Жыл бұрын
That was bad communication. No one was penalized or retrained?
@jimboyarab1072
@jimboyarab1072 Жыл бұрын
Atleast they are safe
@cindytartt4048
@cindytartt4048 Жыл бұрын
Luck shouldn’t have anything to do with it unfortunately. But yes, you’re spot on. Makes me embarrassed to be a Sydney-sider. For a few hours, anyway.
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
The FE is a climate change denier.
@dx1450
@dx1450 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking. 4 greens is good, but the 747 has 5 sets of landing gear.
@NV555_82nd
@NV555_82nd Жыл бұрын
In any industry, warning alarms mean just that WARNING. It happens so many times when people hear alarms or alerts they disregard them. What is your first thought when you hear a car alarm down the block? There is some psychology behind the denial of alarms and alerts.
@gwiyomikim5988
@gwiyomikim5988 Жыл бұрын
This “queen of the skies” was repaired to fly again. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@joelpackett7582
@joelpackett7582 Жыл бұрын
Sad to think Ansett Australia collapsed in 2002
@roscoewhite3793
@roscoewhite3793 Жыл бұрын
Ansett was a fine airline. A shame that it's gone.
@cindytartt4048
@cindytartt4048 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I flew on that airline everywhere in Aus & had brilliant experiences every time. A sad day.
@juanjodpr
@juanjodpr Жыл бұрын
Honestly, 4 greens out of 5...I would be terrified by this, because it's clearly indicating it's not down...my gosh, it's a miracle nothing terrible happened and it went fairly well.
@miggis
@miggis Жыл бұрын
the fact that this was made with FSX is amazing! it will never die!
@SpidaMez
@SpidaMez Жыл бұрын
It is p3d not fsx. P3d is still used alot, fsx is kinda dead
@miggis
@miggis Жыл бұрын
@@SpidaMez but it says in the description that it is fsx
@mikeyplayz8438
@mikeyplayz8438 Жыл бұрын
​@@miggis Sometimes it says Roblox is Call of Duty it definitely isn't perfect.
@NugChannel
@NugChannel Жыл бұрын
Was watching patiently all the way to the end, hoping to read some texts saying that the Flight Engineer had been held responsible for calmly letting hundreds of lives go through such dangerous event.
@purtis99
@purtis99 Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that not only is there a visual observation window in the dog house but an emergency free fall extention release in the flight deck.
@noneofyourbizness
@noneofyourbizness Жыл бұрын
flight engineer's first and only B747 trip ?
@StuartConsulting
@StuartConsulting Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched 100’s of these videos, Aussie pilot crew resource management is the best there is, no egos, no chain of command, even when under intense pressure and mistakes are made, lets just get this broken bird landed and save as many lives as we can.
@NV555_82nd
@NV555_82nd Жыл бұрын
Not in this case.
@premkudva
@premkudva Жыл бұрын
What a beautifully made video that was. Great job.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын
"Ladies and gentleman, this is your student pilot speaking. Today we will be practicing no-nosewheel landings, so please don't be concerned".
@theferrones
@theferrones Жыл бұрын
I sort of expected a statement saying the ac was offline for two weeks for repairs. Guess I’m spoiled. Great video as usual. I’m a retired a/p mechanic so oddly I find these disasters relaxing so I tend to watch them before going to bed. Probably the music
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure that'll buff out lol. I think they need to install cameras in various places of the planes where they can make visual inspections of various systems while in flight. Just as they started putting them on spacecraft to monitor things during launch and separation sequences. Great video as usual buddy. 👍
@johnmclean6498
@johnmclean6498 Жыл бұрын
I have thought this for a long while. You watch the Bathurst 1000 and you see everything from multiple angles on the car. The technology is available - just program a MFD with four or five extra buttons. Gear, empennage, flaps, doors. Easy.
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@robsmith3291
@robsmith3291 Жыл бұрын
@@johnmclean6498 Back in the 60's they didn't have the videos, that is why the 747 had dual landing gear warning systems. Independent of each other. Both independent systems showed the nose gear was not down and locked!
@pullformore
@pullformore Жыл бұрын
To be fair to AN, I am not certain they maintained their 747s - I have a vague memory that SQ maintained them, since AN leased them from SQ and SQ owned them anyway.
@HenrysHowTos
@HenrysHowTos Жыл бұрын
Ansett, now that’s a throwback to when I was a kid!
@isabellind1292
@isabellind1292 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, TheFlightChannel.⭐✈⭐
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@TechnoBlogGuru Жыл бұрын
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@AnthonyCartmell
@AnthonyCartmell Жыл бұрын
Should there have been "five greens" for the four main gear and one nose gear?
@Rufus6540
@Rufus6540 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was wondering as well.
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA Жыл бұрын
That is correct, five greens. The design was criticized in that rather than have for example a red light indicating a problem one of the five lights simply did not appear. The engineer was apparently unaware of what a problem with the landing gear as happened here was supposed to look like.
@robertbarnier45
@robertbarnier45 Жыл бұрын
So sad. The demise of a great airline. Vale Ansett. ❤
@merckmaguddayao6814
@merckmaguddayao6814 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the stench of the cabin when the doors were opened.
@brentengstrom5406
@brentengstrom5406 Жыл бұрын
It's always the little things in life that will get you.
@MrMudbill
@MrMudbill Жыл бұрын
Hey TFC, could you start to add the date and year into the description as well? I feel like the year in particular can add a lot of context throughout and it can be easy to forget later on in the video (or if you miss it in the first few seconds)
@ClaireH1418
@ClaireH1418 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel Жыл бұрын
Good choice, good piloting. Great plane! Landed beautifully with no nose gear. 👍
@nathanfreire2456
@nathanfreire2456 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. keep it up
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын
the landing was good. The choices before it not so much.
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 Жыл бұрын
as an experienced captain he shouldn't have overlooked the most obvious reason for the front landing gear warning inspite of one engine being shut down resulting in a sloppy response of the hydraulic system . . . but the B747-300 had a triple redundant hydraulic system . . .
@anononinternet
@anononinternet Жыл бұрын
Great work as always. I was wondering if you'll post an updated version for Sriwijaya Air Flight 182 since the final report is released?
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
Thank God all survived...pretty good flying by the FO keeping the nose up so long and gently putting it down.
@ilovetotri23
@ilovetotri23 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@annakeye
@annakeye Жыл бұрын
Inexperience is the name of the game here. The FE was on his first waged flight on a B747 after recently being certified. I would've expected them to know that the landing gear consisted of five units but even the captain failed to ask the question correctly. He basically had two rookies as his flight crew for this plane and I doubt they'd even flown together before so no understanding of how each person communicates. Just fortunate it turned out okay, even if Ansett had to get a specialist team of cleaners in to get the stench out of the seating after almost everyone on board crapped themselves. Not the flight attendants. Nothing phases them. Especially those Ansett women back in the day.
@gilbertsantacruz1397
@gilbertsantacruz1397 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was a old video of yours but it was uploaded 45 minutes ago. Whoopee! Let's get into it
@MansakeLabsOfficial
@MansakeLabsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Captain: "Huh, why is the landing gear malfunction alarm going off? It has to be a false positive." The positive: Being the exact opposite of false to a ludicrous degree.
@javianjohnson8746
@javianjohnson8746 Жыл бұрын
Ok I'm being honest, I highly doubt that with "giving more time" the landing gear would've eventually come out. How long were they waiting on the nose gear to come out? Because if all of the others ones had no problem coming out, then it had to be a mechanical problem with the nose that would've required much more than just "a few extra moments". Theres definitely something more to that
@WhenTheLionRoars
@WhenTheLionRoars Жыл бұрын
I would suggest that all commercial plane manufacturers start installing cameras inside and outside so that the pilots can see their aircraft to alert them to incidents like these and many more that I've watched on this channel
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant re-creation of the actual events. 👍
@Maxverstappenfan1286
@Maxverstappenfan1286 Жыл бұрын
the captain did an excellent job to the land the plane without the nose land gear
@user-qs9ys4dk5l
@user-qs9ys4dk5l 2 ай бұрын
we love you the flightchannell
@lindawallace6750
@lindawallace6750 Жыл бұрын
WOW ! FANTASTIC JOB !!
@annawilson8801
@annawilson8801 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing! The flight engineer didn’t see the landing lights also the pilot lost situational awareness due to the lack of probability management of the airlines!
@gregorybaker330
@gregorybaker330 Жыл бұрын
Their 744s later were from ANA. The 743s were from SQ but the line captain was CX trained and at that time retired from CX.
@donaldsalkovick396
@donaldsalkovick396 Жыл бұрын
Flight engineer dropped the ball
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why we bother to keep the NTSB around now that we have youtube know-it-alls to figure this shit out from the comfort of their basements.
@dagneytaggart7707
@dagneytaggart7707 Жыл бұрын
@@johnd5398 Have a Snickers
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 Жыл бұрын
@@johnd5398 Oh no....anyway..
@DaveInBridport
@DaveInBridport Жыл бұрын
I like the screaming bits when they face their destiny in a mountainside.
@kevin_mitchell
@kevin_mitchell Жыл бұрын
It may not have been mandatory to check and service the oil thing, but coupled with the fact that they had been using excessive oil, you would think that it would have raised alarm bells to have it checked!
@Dr.Frasier_Crane
@Dr.Frasier_Crane Жыл бұрын
2:10 I WISH people boarded that fast!
@ansettproductions
@ansettproductions Жыл бұрын
Aww yes Ansett Australia. 🇦🇺 ☺️
@robbiebunge859
@robbiebunge859 Жыл бұрын
Well despite all that, it was a magnificent landing. Pity such an illustrious career ends like this. I suppose you're only as good as your last flight
@Delete_The_Elite
@Delete_The_Elite Жыл бұрын
I miss Ansett a real Australian icon
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 Жыл бұрын
It would help if you explained what the "engine angle gearbox housing"is. We're not typically mechanics.
@hansblitz7770
@hansblitz7770 Жыл бұрын
I love the music, it is hopeful and sad at the same time.
@sueshaw7834
@sueshaw7834 Жыл бұрын
The demise of a once great Australian airline.
@fifty9forty3
@fifty9forty3 Жыл бұрын
I'll take the extra time and walk, roller skate or skate board, especially these days with all that's going on with air travel and air planes. I question the people maintaining the planes, the people who travel by plane, the people who fly the planes, the entire transportation system and the man in charge of it all.
@TonyM1961
@TonyM1961 Жыл бұрын
The one sad truth about regulations regarding all types of transportation is that frequently they are written in blood. It really shouldn't take a tragedy to change hazardous operational procedures, but it seems to almost always be the case. We need to do better. We MUST do better
@christrahi16
@christrahi16 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work! Would it be possible to do a crash video on Malev flight 240?
@v1cut60
@v1cut60 Жыл бұрын
I don’t fly this old version of the 747, but don’t they have an indication on the panel showing a green light for each landing gear? In which case also the flight crew should have seen that the nose wasn’t “green”… (May be the old 74’s had the landing gear indication on the FE’s panel only…)
@RonPiggott
@RonPiggott Жыл бұрын
That was intense.
@gregorybaker330
@gregorybaker330 Жыл бұрын
When I flew 743s and 744s on AN as pax threy never used a remote gate. I did see the plane starnded on runway 16R at 5pm or so from General Holmes Drive.
@RandeepSingh07
@RandeepSingh07 Жыл бұрын
#Everyone_Survived the best words. #Exciting Video throughout. Thank you #TheFlightChannel
@davidimhoff2118
@davidimhoff2118 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know about this one. I would of been 13 at the time. I think it's very demanding to be a captain training a new pilot as well as having a new engineer. My feel is if 3 people are working in the cockpit only one should be training or brand new. It puts too much on the plate of the captain. However the co-pilot did an excellent job landing. They were lucky to be able to slow it down and not cause a fire. The captain knows the plane. If you are getting a warning sound and it's telling you a problem with the gear and you have a brand new engineer my view is that they should of tried to go by the airport and have ground atc check to see if the gear was down. I do get that he was probably concerned with the hydrolics too because if your having slow moving flaps and gear you kind of want to be out of the sky as fast as you can. You want your passengers to be safe. I don’t understand how the FE stated all greens and then later stated they were all set. If you don’t know what you are looking at speak up. If you aren’t sure say something. Don’t assume. I don’t like the fact that there are planes out there that have a flight engineer. I say this because you have the captain and the co-pilot who are flying the plane based on the instruments in front of them. If they can’t see other instruments and you have a guy that is relaying info that you can’t see, you are putting a heck of a lot of trust in them. Whereas if it’s just a captain and co-pilot they can look at the other persons instrumentations.
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
That should never have happened...there should have been an experienced FE on board a training flight.
@robsmith3291
@robsmith3291 Жыл бұрын
The pilots had the indication in front of them and they disregarded it. They had a continuous Aural warning horn and disregarded it. They should have done a go round , cleaned up and looked again. They may have even found the #1 ADP switch in the wrong position.
@davidimhoff2118
@davidimhoff2118 Жыл бұрын
@@robsmith3291 I agree
@Fischer007
@Fischer007 5 ай бұрын
The situation with the nose landing gear means that the airplane should be equipped with a video camara watching the position of landing gears so that the captain be informed without fail.
@tonytaylor5204
@tonytaylor5204 Жыл бұрын
back in 1994, Ansett leased a pair of b747-300 classic from Singapore airlines rather than the video shown 747-400
@philipnoonan4721
@philipnoonan4721 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The video may have mentioned that the model shown was different.
@MrCrystalcranium
@MrCrystalcranium Жыл бұрын
Jesus...no nosewheel and no comment. I don't understand this one at all. How the flight engineer didn't recognize the incorrect landing configuration and why the Captain and FO didn't identify it in the landing checklist tells me the flight crew and not the plane were on autopilot. They were damn lucky.
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
moments before landing, the FE was still busy counting to 5 using his fingers.......by the time he got to his 5th finger, it was too late...... management retrained the FE to have his finger tips numbered with permanent tattoos going forward
@makavelifei
@makavelifei Жыл бұрын
how do you make these videos? so awesome
@ZyciewKanadzieAnitaBeataVlog
@ZyciewKanadzieAnitaBeataVlog Жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to watch a video about ow these videos are made, right?
@ru.azer4leningrad
@ru.azer4leningrad Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful big bird
@jaxybrein8483
@jaxybrein8483 Жыл бұрын
Thank God, due to the advancement in aviation technology, aircrafts have better cockpit instrumentation that assist the cockpit crew in avoiding these types of incidents. I know this, because I grew up an airline brat, having a father who worked for United Airlines for almost 40 years. I've flown on so many different airplane models in my 64 years then I can tell you how much safer it is to fly now. I once worked for a non-commercial airline myself. Today, FAA regulations are much more stringent, thank God! Back in the day when I was a kid, I could tell you stories told by my dad that would make you wonder, if you are as old as I am, how we survived any plane flight back then. I won't go there. 😉
@larou14
@larou14 Жыл бұрын
Ouffff...everybody are safe !!! Bravosss... ! ;-)
@jonmyers8046
@jonmyers8046 Жыл бұрын
Tell me Picard, how many lights do you see?....."THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!" 🤣
@backedupwithtruth7525
@backedupwithtruth7525 Жыл бұрын
Even this animated version is very accurate because Aussies do drive on the left side of the freeway like the Brits
@robbiebunge859
@robbiebunge859 Жыл бұрын
And here in South Africa 🇿🇦
@joshuaslee7079
@joshuaslee7079 Жыл бұрын
My dad use work for Ansett and vh inh is a 747 300
@jokers7890
@jokers7890 Жыл бұрын
hopefully he learned to count to 5 using his fingers
@carmelhudson9811
@carmelhudson9811 Жыл бұрын
Well this must be very old, because Ansett last flight was in 2002. It was a good Australian Airline that flew for 65 years.
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