An update on the war in Ukraine

On April 24, 2024, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists hosted military strategist Stephen Biddle and Ukraine expert Melinda Haring in a conversation with national security reporter Julian Barnes to discuss the strategic landscape of the war in Ukraine. They discussed military strategic options from both Russian and Ukrainian perspectives, including what the next phase of the war could bring.
Speakers:
Stephen Biddle, professor of international and public affairs at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs
Melinda Haring, senior community engagement advisor, Razom for Ukraine and nonresident senior fellow, Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center.
Julian Barnes, reporter, The New York Times
Thumbnail image: Motherland Monument in Kyiv, Ukraine. (Rostislav Artov, Unsplash)

[@benwarnock]

Stalemate? Lol wut. This should just be unbiased commentary, not propaganda

[@user-jc4ko9wh2x]

Как всё запущено!...

[@oscaroscar6197]

🤩Properganda, hilarious Mr white hir !

[@selfworm]

54:01 I I think Stephen made a really interesting point about halfway through and uh it's not one that we make enough. Both sides are learning uh especially in Washington especially among the more muscular hawkish crowd *we like to pretend that the Russians aren't learning* but they are uh both sides are uh tweaking their systems and responding to each other and I think it's an obvious point uh but the Russians are not idiots and we need *we need to to be honest about that*

[@alexissercho]

I thought this org was serious. I'm out.

[@stl1321]

byeee

[@user-jc4ko9wh2x]

Хорошая дискуссия... Спасибо! Только надо договаривать до конца... Где первопричина напряженности в мире, кто виноват и что делать? Подумайте... Если бы Сталин в середине июня 1945 года решился начать первым, то его, конечно, все обвинили бы в агрессии.... Но... 2-я мировая окончилась бы гораздо раньше и не была такой кровавой.... Не было бы миллионов погибших на поле боя и в концлагерях... И тысячи городов и сёл не были бы разрушены... Кстати, не было бы и атомных бомбардировок мирных жителей Хиросимы и Нагасаки американскими ВВС... Хочется думать, не было бы и проблемы ядерного соперничества... А, возможно, и военного вообще... Не было бы ни НАТО, ни ОВД... И т.д. и т.п. Но, увы Всё пошло, как пошло. И, хотя у человечества есть много общепланетарных задач, мы продолжаем маяться дурью.... Жаль!

[@selfworm]

55:02 "we're also going to look back and say that the tank is not so useful another another thing that we've learned uh from this war it doesn't make sense to send extremely expensive weapons if a very cheap drone can obliterate it" Then why is Ukraine desperate for more tanks? Tanks have a specific role on the battlefield. That role NEEDS to be filled. That's why tanks won't be going anywhere.

[@selfworm]

About halfway through, Stephen Biddle starts giving some insightful comments. That's worth listening to. The other 2 say nothing insightful. Just propaganda we've all heard before mixed with wishful thinking.

[@VT-mw2zb]

Steve teaches at SIPA. His colleagues include Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland.

[@selfworm]

@@VT-mw2zb Even so, he repeatedly pushes back at the more asinine talking points the other two regurgitate.

[@VT-mw2zb]

@@selfworm i mean, Steve is a fairly good author when it comes to modern warfare and he knows what he's talking about. His books are exceptional.

[@anastasiaderugina5704]

US Atomic scientists for war

[@dvfr750f]

A great conversation. I have spoken to frnds about this conflict and uneducated views see this as an American problem. "Why should we help? Its not our problem" I think ppl have forgotten that Russia invaded Ukraine and even said they were going to do it. At the end of the day it is a question of right or wrong. If you saw a person getting beat up on the street for no reason, is it right to intervene and support the acosted or should you stand by and watch. To do the latter just emboldens the bully.

[@JustBobcat]

За Россию!

[@JustBobcat]

Скоро Европа будет нашей