NATO’s Fascist Inheritance & the Long War On the Third World, w/ Pawel Wargan

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BreakThrough News

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Жыл бұрын

To understand how this new Cold War might play out, we have to understand the foundations of the original Cold War of the 20th century. What was NATO’s role? What did it mean for the Third World back then? What does it mean for the Third World today, particularly those countries that seek an independent, sovereign path? What is the danger of rising fascist movements? And what are the lessons for anti-imperialists who live and organize in the imperial core?
To discuss this and more, Rania Khalek was joined by Paweł Wargan, an organizer and researcher based in Berlin, the coordinator of the secretariat of the Progressive International and author of the recent Monthly Review article “NATO and the Long War on the Third World,” in which he looks to the past for lessons about the future, concluding that capitalism cannot be overcome until the arteries of imperial plunder are severed.
Article discussed in this episode:
monthlyreview.org/2023/01/01/...
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@patrickfarrell5092
@patrickfarrell5092 8 ай бұрын
Wow, how futuristic was this interview, Rania is becoming one of the most forward thinking journalists on the net.
@Shairony
@Shairony Жыл бұрын
Rania has been doing such important interviews . These are not only full of information and historical context, they give us hope and a path forward. She deserves flowers. ❤️❤️❤️
@mikaelholt8509
@mikaelholt8509 8 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@gordonmorris6359
@gordonmorris6359 7 ай бұрын
Important context omitted though about the atomic bombing of Japan.
@TheKofinyarko
@TheKofinyarko 7 ай бұрын
​@@gordonmorris6359never omitted unless you didn’t listen to the whole segmet
@gordonmorris6359
@gordonmorris6359 7 ай бұрын
@@TheKofinyarko No, I heard it all, they said nothing about the repeated offers to surrender that were rejected, and the American mass leafleting of Japan in the weeks before warning the citizenry before the bombing, or that even after the first bomb Japan still wouldn't surrender, and the fact that the US knew that, like the Nazis, Japan was trying to develop an Atomic bomb too, although it wasn't known that their progress had only developed a cyclotron at that point. Also, the citizenry had been instructed to prepare to fight a land invasion, which would've necessitated more destruction as well as loss of lives on both sides.
@manichaean1888
@manichaean1888 6 ай бұрын
She is an intelligent, beautiful, charming person indeed.
@jeffjacobs4182
@jeffjacobs4182 Жыл бұрын
Watching this after the insane reaction to an off course weather balloon from China this is terrifying. In the 1st Cold War hawks like Douglas MacArthur who wanted to nuke China after they intervened in the Korean War or Curtis Lemay who wanted to launch a 1st strike on the Soviet Union and wanted to bomb the Soviet middle sites in Cuba in 1962, it makes you think who are today’s hawks in the 2nd Cold War against China in our government who are calling for similar actions like those by people like MacArthur, LeMay, etc. we are living in dangerous times with the US being a jingoistic imperialist rogue state that brought to the world in most cases only war and suffering in the whole of the 20th century and into the 21st. Thank you for raising awareness of issues that actually impact people and stupid issues in western corporate media. Quick note about LeMay he was the commander of the US army Air Force in 1945 who started the firebombing campaign against Japan and was probably also kind of a racist and I also think MacArthur;s chief of staff was a supporter of Mussolini and fascism. Final note on Haiti it doesn’t get taught much and if it is it is somehow justified is that the US occupied Haiti for 19 years between 1915-1934 where marines killed and tortured thousands all at the behest of banks in the US, absolutely disgusting.
@standalby6949
@standalby6949 8 ай бұрын
We know who the talking heads are , Kissinger that works for the Rockefeller’s , just the same as Soros being under the Rothschilds shield , same with Brezenski
@garyschneider6644
@garyschneider6644 7 ай бұрын
Weather balloon … right dude. A weather ballon that just happened to linger over US military installations. Sheesh, you guys are delusional.
@wwatson8891
@wwatson8891 6 ай бұрын
Curtis Lemay was of the same mindset as that of Arthur 'bomber' Harris -- two psychos
@martinmulholland3342
@martinmulholland3342 6 ай бұрын
He also used 2 nukes against Japan who was on its knees Because Russia had over 1 million army storming through Mongolia into China extremely fast Usa did not want to divide japan as they had to do in Germany After surrender to usa by japan none where signed by Russia and japan until Russia captured Islands North of japan Still disputed terrorism that Russia holds
@BCooperArtMind
@BCooperArtMind 5 ай бұрын
May I add as a son of a Native American and the father of Native Amazonian children, The US brought war and suffering into the 18th century into the 19th century, then into the 20th and now 21st. The context of the indigenous peoples of the Americas is vital to understanding the US, and other Settler-States.
@sulandelemere
@sulandelemere Жыл бұрын
Wow what an interview got to keep inviting scholars like this on ❤
@kentauree
@kentauree Жыл бұрын
People think that slavery is no more. But it's just that the whip is changed out with hunger, you are free because you can choose between slaving or dying from hunger. Gandhi said "poverty is the worst form of violence" They have just realized that it's much easier to fool people into slavery, than to force them into slavery.
@eriolthemariner
@eriolthemariner 5 ай бұрын
Slavery still exists in many areas of the world.
@samaval9920
@samaval9920 5 ай бұрын
United Nations enlarged slavery definition to include forced marriage, endentured labor & several other categories, so now there are more slaves than ever,
@YTChannel344
@YTChannel344 Жыл бұрын
Lovely work both Pawel & Rania were excellent & truthful God bless the good people making the world fair for everyone.
@sammavaca5714
@sammavaca5714 Жыл бұрын
Thx Rania and Pawel for this lucid conversation about the key issues behind our current global nightmare. I have heartily recommended this piece to friends.
@pariaheep
@pariaheep 3 ай бұрын
@guiller2371
@guiller2371 Жыл бұрын
This is very good information. It brings sense to all the nonsense of the west where no injustice ever gets solve.
@SixOneNiner23
@SixOneNiner23 4 ай бұрын
Nope, some of the online NATO operatives are Nazis and try to troll people into taking their lives
@andrewshepersky8704
@andrewshepersky8704 2 ай бұрын
It's lies..uranium is congos gold mine nato wants for more bombs
@666DrDr
@666DrDr Жыл бұрын
Great work as always Rania!!!
@adamjohnson286
@adamjohnson286 11 ай бұрын
I went back and watched this entire interview that Rania Khalik did with a German socialist intellectual. The authentic socialist left is worth listening to, especially with regards to international relations and how we reach global peace. The election of Lula in Brazil was a huge break for the global peace block and gives some hope that the global majority can successfully resist the neoliberal economic and military imperialist force based primarily in the U.S. and Britain.
@stevecelestin6716
@stevecelestin6716 6 ай бұрын
As a Haitian, I’ll admit. This page is by far the only one that seems to be aware of the part haiti has played in history and I hope overtime more people will know.
@antonykalawangi7538
@antonykalawangi7538 Жыл бұрын
Great talk and sharp analysis! Thanks a lot Rania for producing this interview. Sending you my respect and best regards from Bitung, Indonesia.
@karlm1495
@karlm1495 7 ай бұрын
as an italian we know very well fascism goes hand in hand with capitalism
@carrerau7138
@carrerau7138 4 ай бұрын
As Europeans we know that marxism goes hand in hand with mass murder.
@o0posh0o58
@o0posh0o58 4 ай бұрын
Except that no one knows what fascism actually means.....ask 10 people what it means and you'll get 20 answers.... even "anti-fascists" don't know what fascism is.... because fascism is very similar to how communists run things but different enough (culturally and nationally and economically) to be different than capitalism also.... ANTIFA basically is against a recognized pattern of behavior... if a behavior becomes fixed they want to unfix it.... antifa are just "anti-autistic" in that they hate routines and patterns...
@lisemarie2362
@lisemarie2362 Жыл бұрын
Truly interesting a thought provoking discussion. Thank you Rania.
@elenitsigante3256
@elenitsigante3256 Жыл бұрын
Europe was socialist in different degrees and much of this social infrastructure still remains, hanging on by a thread for now. Greece , my country, has NOT been an imperial power for 1000 years and was given NO choice post WW2 into whose bloc it was stuck willy-nilly, nor over NATO membership (imposed, along with Turkey's, to threaten Russian access to the Mediterranean) , NOR over "joining" the EU - once again, imposed - nor over joining the euro. Greece has kept out of NATO's wars except when forced to join (Korea, Iraq 2, Afghanistan) but even in those conflicts kept it's nose clean and left ASAP. And Greece is not alone in "Europe" as an imposed upon imprisoned country, threatened, beaten up and robbed by the same "Europe" that Pawel Wargan speaks so sweepingly about. It would be a major improvement in this discourse if these distinctions were made, ie that Germany, UK, France are active colonialists, that Italy, Spain, Portugal and NL are semi-retired colonialist powers - and that leaves 18 OTHER countries who do not attack, do not rob and steal , many of whom from state level to population would love to escape NATO and EU TODAY and forever, not tomorrow. Without these distinctions talk is cheap AND dangerous. Greece for one will not deserve future retributions made against it for being "European" when it has been a US/EU hostage for almost 80 years, kept in line by an imposed civil war, a GLADIO military dictatorship and the fake debt crisis imposed upon the country to rob its gold, 49% of all public and private money, and by now almost full loss of state assets to stabilise Deutsche Bank and other northern "systemic" banks. Pawel Wargan should speak more carefully. And please note that I am not pointing any fingers at Poland in this discussion. I WILL say you'd have to search far & wide to find a single Ukrainian flag in Greece because we know too well what nazism is.
@pausereflect5911
@pausereflect5911 Жыл бұрын
Wow! First time I hear what you posted. European to not 🚫 all be LUMPED together.
@bettytigers
@bettytigers 6 ай бұрын
Treat other people as you would like to be treated yourself. Countries too! How could you encourage North Korea to be a better country for it's citizens? A kind considerate leader might help!
@wavelength7503
@wavelength7503 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent interview. So much information in it all.
@firnantok
@firnantok Жыл бұрын
How was I not following Pawel's work yet?! Great episode and the last statement about the western left is so on point it hurts.
@medicuswashington9870
@medicuswashington9870 Жыл бұрын
Capitalism versus Communism is front and center on the world stage. The fact of China has changed the balance of power. The developing nations have an opportunity to resist the colonizers. The fact of Communist China is bringing CHANGE and HOPE.
@woodytobiasjr8265
@woodytobiasjr8265 Жыл бұрын
Rania nailed it when she said fascism goes hand in hand with capitalism.
@sentientnatalie
@sentientnatalie Жыл бұрын
"Fascism is capitalism in decay." - Lenin
@AlexanderUnit-731
@AlexanderUnit-731 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Capitalism is an economic basis. Political structure can be liberal or fascist, and ideology of society can be liberal or fascist.
@kentauree
@kentauree Жыл бұрын
If some people weren't greedy capitalism would probably work fine....
@kentauree
@kentauree Жыл бұрын
Alexander, capitalism is when some people make money on other peoples work, it's slavery. And what they call liberalism is the freedom of the rich to treat their slaves as bad as they like.
@AlexanderUnit-731
@AlexanderUnit-731 Жыл бұрын
@@kentauree Capitalism is not aboud greed - it is about monopolization of financial capital and centralization of production. And Communism is not about charity - it is only about eliminating private ownership on monopolies and on the means of production.
@TerranMetal
@TerranMetal Жыл бұрын
Incredible analysis from Pawel Wargan. Thank you for bringing this wonderful interview and intellectual to us!
@danielopdenakker3010
@danielopdenakker3010 7 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@alicehamers7996
@alicehamers7996 Жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely fascinating interview. Thanks Rania. Thanks Pawel.
@robertseaborne5758
@robertseaborne5758 Жыл бұрын
As tragic and bloody as it is, the war in Ukraine is a mere side show compared to what is actually happening between the so called unipolar world order and a newly emerging so called multipolar world order. It amounts to being a contest between a US dominated unipolar world that advocates neo-liberalism and a China dominated multi polar world that advocates neo-socialism. As for where this is leading the human race; the expression 'follow the money' is still relevant advice. The global economic centre of gravity is migrating from its Anglo/American/EU centres toward eventually settling within Eurasia, where it will be kept economically viable and secure by a core China/Russia strategic trading and military alliance.The US dollar as global reserve currency will be replaced by a multiple of gold backed currencies, enabling more economic security and trading flexibility between sovereign states and thereby eliminating the economic domination of a single nation state.
@colonel__klink7548
@colonel__klink7548 6 ай бұрын
You... do realize that the way the Chinese economy works is identical to Hitler's Germany right? Right down to party loyalists being made industrial oligarchs, billionaires and allowed to gorge themselves as long as they are loyal and toe the line. They did take a queue out of the US in the 1800s though and per statue a "funny sounding name" is just cause enough to send someone to a labor, I mean a "job education camp for ethnic minorities."
@truthseeker6541
@truthseeker6541 Жыл бұрын
Great show, great guest Rania. For those like minded watching your channel, he is preaching to the converted. The knowledge he is espousing should be directed to the ears of the deniers. If only to save themselves. For many in the West who benifit from Western privileges and entitlements, it's quite a conundrum to contemplate. Are they willing to give up this lifestyle of semi luxury for the good of all? Or continue on this path of inevitable destruction. My belief is it may already be too late we no longer have consensus, mass propaganda has taken care of that.
@andrewpaddock7560
@andrewpaddock7560 Жыл бұрын
1:14:55: "If everything is wrong, nothing is possible." My God! That line hit me like a brick to the head! That's exactly how I've been feeling for years. Every time proposals to improve the world in some way are proposed, there's a litany of excuses that are paraded out to quash any hope. It's like, "Oh well. Nothing can be done. Why bother trying?" I've struggled to figure out a way to break through that, and I realize it isn't possible. The argument is a bad faith one, and you can't reason against a bad-faith argument. The whole point is to immobilize, demoralize, and breed bitter resignation and acquiescence to a crumbling world. Yet I get not wanting to have hope. If you've seen too much, too often had hope dashed, then you close up just to protect yourself. Ugh... That's depressing.
@MichelleHell
@MichelleHell Жыл бұрын
We have to believe, so that we try at all.
@niksatan
@niksatan Жыл бұрын
Everything is wrong, everything is possible
@jeffreyhotchkiss9451
@jeffreyhotchkiss9451 Жыл бұрын
My reply to someone peddling a version of this line: "Fine, then get out of the way so those of us who want our grandchildren to survive and thrive can get to work." When I reply. I mostly ignore and keep doing my work.
@pedropapas4596
@pedropapas4596 3 ай бұрын
​@@jeffreyhotchkiss9451your attitude is both astute and pragmatic. We do need to wake up , push away the deadwood and make changes. Of course its an uphill task but givingbup is not an option for my childrens futures either.
@mahaut1329
@mahaut1329 7 ай бұрын
Such a great discussion of high intellect, originality and humanity. Congratulations Pawel. Thank you Rania
@bobramsay4355
@bobramsay4355 Жыл бұрын
Pawel has great analytical skills, great food for thought, thanks Rania good show...
@kazab873
@kazab873 Жыл бұрын
In a dramatic speech to Parliament on Friday Senator Sosoaca said President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, had upset World Economic Forum chairman Klaus Schwab by leaving halfway through a press conference and blocking Sweden from joining NATO. “We have lived to witness production of earthquakes on demand. NATO disliked being set up by President Erdogan,” a furious Sosoaca stated. “Moreover his position of neutrality and mediator in the Ukranian-Russian war deeply disturbed them. His position to block Sweden’s accession to NATO and his speech in Davos as well as the gesture of leaving in the middle of a press conference defying Schwab did not remain without an echo in the cold world leaders of the world. “But no one thought that people would have to die so many in such a terrible way. “But ten seconds before the occurrence of the so-called earthquakes the Turks closed these (oil and gas) pipelines “In addition 24 hours before the earthquakes 10 countries withdrew their ambassadors from Turkey. “Five days before its occurrence the Romanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a travel warning for Romanian citizens in Turkey.” These damning accusations are prima facie evidence of a deliberate attack on Turkey by Deep State using HAARP technology. Senator Sosoaca’s speech will reverberate around the free press of the world but don’t expect to hear it on the ABC, News Ltd or Fairfax media in Australia. The WEF tentacles stretch far and wide and now it seems no nation state is immune from retaliation or attack by the New World Order with help from the WEF if they step out of line.
@michstockholm1164
@michstockholm1164 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for introducing me to this excellent historian. 😊 ❤️
@valeriognudi7325
@valeriognudi7325 Жыл бұрын
brilliant!!! Pawel Wargan is a great discovery, he really made a fantastic speech! Venceremos ✊✊
@craigwilson1144
@craigwilson1144 Жыл бұрын
Rania and Pawel that was the most informative, educational and historical conversations I have had the privilege to listen to out of the hundreds of videos I have previously watched featuring many notable scholars. Pawel is in a league of his own when it comes to history and political science. If anything after listening to his brilliant oration I have become a nihilist. I just want to go fishing. Capitalism has Proven to be an unstable economic system that over the last 500 years has caused more suffering, wars and an unimaginable number of deaths than can ever be counted. Truman and Churchill as you mentioned may not have been diagnosed as psychopaths, but they were obviously megalomaniacs, obsessed with power and how to keep it. Either way they were suffering from a severe mental illness which shaped their personalities and influenced all their decision making throughout their lives. The ruling elites have seized power in the U.S. and only time will tell where this privileged cartel of billionaires leads the country, whether it be toward fascism or socialism that is the challenge of humanity.
@76verdee
@76verdee Жыл бұрын
capitalism has proven to be one of the best systems we've ever had. Capitalism has done far more and work better at coming up with solutions not only to fix problems we're dealing with such as hunger, or the current climate issue but also most of the big advancements that we've made over the last 500 years. Cronicapitolism is the part that we need to eradicate. Whenever that enters the picture is when we see it going south. On the flip side Communism has also been responsible for much suffering and unimaginable number of deaths than can ever be counted. When it comes down to it, Communism and Fascism are two faces of the same coin. The only difference between the two is the path they use to get there.
@Moosemoose1
@Moosemoose1 7 ай бұрын
@@76verdee Will you people stop it already with the "Crony capitalism" bull? It's all just capitalism. Capitalism is a winner-take-all system of cutthroat competition. Any competitive system of winners and losers is inevitably going to end up as monopoly and oligopoly simply because they form from companies merely acting in their own rational self-interest to defeat their competitors (remember the POINT of competition and capitalism is to BEAT your competitor to grow and accumulate capital). The whole point of government under capitalism is to manage the affairs of the rich and keep the country stable enough for the economy to grow - and who contribute the most to the economy? The largest businesses, since they hire the most people and generate the most wealth. And you're wrong about Socialism/Communism causing "unimaginable number of deaths than can ever be counted" - Capitalism has been around for almost 500 years and has been the cause for GLOBAL COLONIALISM, the TRANS-ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE, nearly every single war over resources and conquest of indigenous peoples, countless man-made famines and genocides around the world, human trafficking, drug trades, countless death from starvation, poisoning, unimaginable poverty, strike breaking, crushing uprisings, lack of worker safety, exploitation and environmental destruction that has taken place IN EVERY SINGLE CAPITALIST NATION ON EARTH FOR THE PAST 500 YEARS. That means every capitalist country in Latin America, Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, Australia for the past 500 YEARS. The colonial period ALONE has killed 100 times more than communism ever has. Whereas under Socialism not even 100 million people have been killed; 100 million is the highest number associated with "Communism", and it came from the Black Book of Communism. The authors of the Black Book of Communism - THE AUTHORS OF THAT BOOK - have disavowed and repudiated it, saying that the number is a gross exaggeration which they fabricated from meaningless statistics because the person who hired them was obsessed with reaching the number of 100 million and told them to pick whatever deaths they could find to meet that number. They said they even included everything from natural deaths to the deaths of Nazis who invaded the Soviet Union as well as children who never existed in the first place simply based on an ESTIMATED statistic about EXPECTED birth numbers which NEVER happened. It was all a lie. The real number was closer to 30 million over the course of 70 years, most of which taking place early in the USSR and China's histories during SPECIFIC periods like the great leap forward, WWII, the Russian Civil war and 5 year plan - in the 21st century Capitalism kills more than that in 6 years. The Capitalist King Leopold of Belgium ALONE killed 20 MILLION Congolese people with his "Congo free State" which he ran with his personal corporation - nearly as much as every single Socialist nation on the planet over the course of 70 years. Educate yourself. Capitalism by every single metric is worse than even the most repressive form of Socialism and is the primary cause of climate change. CAPITALISM caused climate change, and it's not going to fix it, since every capitalist nation has refused to even try to do anything and instead have been fighting these last 20 years over gas and oil. You are a fool if you still believe it is superior even as its leading us all to our deaths.
@sutikareoluwagbenga1272
@sutikareoluwagbenga1272 7 ай бұрын
@@76verdeeIts all relative.Capitalism can be considered the best system if you’re capable of benefiting from its oppressive nature of raping the poor and extracting/stealing its resources for personal gain.
@Vhlathanosh
@Vhlathanosh 5 ай бұрын
@@76verdee "Capitalism has done far more and work better at coming up with solutions not only to fix problems we're dealing with such as hunger, or the current climate issue but also most of the big advancements that we've made over the last 500 years." LMAO! Capitalism coming up with a solution? Capitalism has always been about rewarding greed.
@daveelcock607
@daveelcock607 Жыл бұрын
Great session. Thanks Rania for the knowledge you always try to share.
@alaskagoldtoolco.4915
@alaskagoldtoolco.4915 4 ай бұрын
is this the twilight zone
@timothygrayson
@timothygrayson 8 ай бұрын
I'd like to thank Rania for her commitment for social justice and her bravery. To invite speakers from independent voices who are opposed to violence and intention. She is guiding light and a guardian of factual reporting and discussions concerning the policies of the West. Much love and respect I send to Rania and truelly hope that such dialogue can continue and our struggle to banish fascism which has its origin in the West and is the antithesis of global justice for every citizen and hope for the enslaved of the Third World.
@CliveBarnettrecluse
@CliveBarnettrecluse 8 ай бұрын
Rania's eyes are betraying her but I love it but I digress. This is history from today and yesterday. Her guest is loaded with very important knowledge. He has mastered his subject and I appreciate it. Thanks to you both for the excellent work and bringing this knowledge for so many of us.
@southpaw786
@southpaw786 Жыл бұрын
Another important and informative interview by Rania and BT News, thank you Rania and Pawel.
@antonevelone1439
@antonevelone1439 Жыл бұрын
The question we're all asking is how do we stop this suffering and dying of innocent people? Some of us look to history and come away with capitalism, fascism, exceptionalism, and racism. All four of these words are not the cause, it is something deeper, or something far removed. These words are mere tools to verbally create a picture, to draw a wedge in between. For example, good and bad, evil and saint, high and low, etc. You got my point. Nothing is going to change until there is a revolutionary transformation within the soul and heart of mankind...
@taq1238
@taq1238 7 ай бұрын
The global south had nothing to do with the current state of affairs.
@royn6971
@royn6971 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Rania for bringing Pawel onto your show. He provided a wealth of historical context for understanding the current cold war
@mikegonzales1028
@mikegonzales1028 7 ай бұрын
It makes me so happy to see that US NATO and Ukraine are all losing the war against Russia 🇷🇺. I am an American citizen, but I do not stand for bullying, nor corrupt governments like the US pretends it’s not and points the finger to everybody else. This is a loser, mentality, and an ugly American attribute that finally shines light on itself
@vplan
@vplan 6 ай бұрын
Sorry this is not how I see it. Nato always knew that ukraine will not win, there are plenty of documents... as such NATO is very successful in exterminating slavs. I guess they did not learn the lesson from WWII...
@markmahan38
@markmahan38 Жыл бұрын
I wrote this on another channel I keep a watch on. About how the insane concept of "tactical nukes" of the US and West. Is basically the destructive power of the 1st Atom Bombs used on Japan. Now Thermal Nuclear Weapons or Hydrogen Bombs are 100000nds times the destructive power of the 1st Atom Bombs. And the Thermal Nukes or Hydrogen Bombs of the ICBM class of Nukes. Have 10 or more war heads on a single intercontinental ballistic missile or ICBM. And only 30 of these are needed to be used to trigger Nuclear Winter. And the nukes in the world. Such as those in Europe, Russia, US, China, India Israel, and Pakistan. Amounts to well over 15000 if not more than 16000. That is enough destructive power to wipe out all living life and ecosystems for life sustainability on planet Earth. For 1000nds if not millions of years. Planet Earth would be a toxic hell for life. Only possible the extreme micro organisms could possibly go on living. At least carbon based life would be not able to come back for more than likely millions of years if at All. Earth would be a wasteland which even nuclear bunkers and orbital space station to house the select few could wait out to repopulate the Earth. Technology is simply not there to wait it out. And traveling to another planet also has the lack of technology to make it possible. Hell we don't even have a planet other than Earth to support Life. And even if we built a Moon or other colonies. We still have the problem of lack of gravity or gravity so low that it would more than likely kill us off anyway. So a thermal Nuclear war is out of the Question. And the use of Tactical Nukes will only trigger Nuclear Armageddon. And it won't be Russia or China who will trigger Nuclear Armageddon. It will be the Insane in the US and West.
@wwbren
@wwbren Жыл бұрын
Take away all the emotional ties, I won't be sad to see this world goes.
@laurieVote3rdParty
@laurieVote3rdParty Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rania ❤
@Banklessap
@Banklessap Жыл бұрын
Thank for referring to Haiti 🇭🇹, they rarely mention anything good about Haiti like my ancestors wasn’t fought for no reason.
@imaxinebrown694
@imaxinebrown694 Жыл бұрын
A really informative conversation with depth. Thanks for sharing
@Karamania
@Karamania 6 ай бұрын
Great discussion. Thank you for bringing Pawel Wargan's awe inspiring intellect to our attention. Impressive chronology and lucidity in the presentation of his ideas.
@Human-jj8mv
@Human-jj8mv Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion. Thank you Rania
@jrshield7793
@jrshield7793 Жыл бұрын
Sharp dressed man , sharp dressed woman , great content; what more can we ask for ?
@stephencarney3489
@stephencarney3489 2 ай бұрын
Sharp!?? 😂
@jeffreyhotchkiss9451
@jeffreyhotchkiss9451 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Pretty concise overview of where we're at. Appreciate the awareness of material needs as anchoring strategies and sovereignties. We should take heart in the ferment that's going on in decolonization spaces in the West. There's a rebirth of Indigenous thinking and doing, that's quite awe-inspiring. A subtheme, not directly addressed, likely because it would have added an hour at least, is the CIA's unrelenting, well-funded campaign of anti-communism, globally. Tactics ranging from payoff and intimidation of journalists, secret funding of cultural groups, all the way to racist mass murder and warmaking. All in the service of the broad imperial goals and strategies so clearly discussed in this video. I think a key part of leftist platforms, anywhere in the world, has to be a plank calling for the CIA's abolition. Draw up an indictment; plenty of source material out there now. Build the pressure, keep pushing. Circling back to the genocide of Indigenous people, equal pressure needs to be put on rescinding and repudiating the Doctrine of Christian Discovery. Some excellent sources there. Try the Redthought webinars; long form discussions but absolutely key. It's exciting to see forces for change coalescing, at the same time deeply agonizing to see the suffering taking place while we struggle to find a renewed path of peace.
@marlbankian
@marlbankian Жыл бұрын
Excellent food for thought
@nesanetlehulum9046
@nesanetlehulum9046 Жыл бұрын
Watching you from Germany every since I found your channel. You are telling it like it is.
@robertseaborne5758
@robertseaborne5758 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rania and Pawel, for this valuable discussion cum political lesson. Here are a few supportive quotes - "So long as socialism does not collapse in China, it will always hold its ground in the world". (Deng Xiaoping 1989). 34 years later China is; "the standard bearer of the global socialist movement". (Xi Jinping 2022)
@joerod7526
@joerod7526 6 ай бұрын
ONE OF THE GREATEST VIDEOS ON KZbin EVER.
@stephencunningham6557
@stephencunningham6557 Жыл бұрын
Regards to you, a great interview with a very knowledgeable guest. Very enlightening, well done! 👏
@ronnysmobilephone
@ronnysmobilephone Жыл бұрын
I think what most people, if not everyone, realizes is he relationship between Germany and Turkey. Abd how Germany learnt about genocide, not just from America, but also from Turkey. As Turkey genocided and expelled the Armenians.
@kazab873
@kazab873 Жыл бұрын
It helps to understand the appalling poverty and chaos in Haiti
@nieskeolinga4556
@nieskeolinga4556 Жыл бұрын
Pawel Wargen,eye opener conversation, thank you.
@sharonmarino1408
@sharonmarino1408 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your reports Rania. I love the learning.👍❤❤❤
@pariaheep
@pariaheep 3 ай бұрын
This is a TOP NOTCH interview, Rania!
@eightiefiv3
@eightiefiv3 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion! Thanks, Rania!!
@hansbright-mohr5178
@hansbright-mohr5178 Жыл бұрын
This guy rules
@newtagwhodis4535
@newtagwhodis4535 4 ай бұрын
Another incredible interview! Thank you! You're a superstar, Rania! ❤
@dodemocracy2426
@dodemocracy2426 7 ай бұрын
This is a very educational and important talk. NO to NATO!!! Let's build a better world with BRICS! Don't be distracted by the "issues" that the mainstream hands you. History is happening across the globe. Thank you Rania.
@jilj1948
@jilj1948 3 ай бұрын
Love you Rania for all you do,, thanks so much
@rabiuhassan8403
@rabiuhassan8403 Жыл бұрын
That being said, the general analysis is very good and educational.
@cpc9563
@cpc9563 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview! ✊
@leoanazemi3797
@leoanazemi3797 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Raina for excellent and informative interview.
@vladimirmihaljevic9764
@vladimirmihaljevic9764 9 ай бұрын
So strong intelligence, so powerful education, so large knowledge. Gays nice from both you .
@guerillagardener2237
@guerillagardener2237 4 ай бұрын
I said that the facsist adopted capitalism years ago, but you are right, capitalism adopted fascism. Stunning how the conversation on the genocide of the indigenous population of America is never talked about. This should be talked about everyday, in regret and shame.
@josephfomunung2875
@josephfomunung2875 11 күн бұрын
I learned a lot from this guest on the state of our world. Justice breeds peace and prosperity. These are old concepts that have been refined and applied to our contemporary world.
@user-ol5jn8jf7c
@user-ol5jn8jf7c 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing light and truth to the world! 💪🏼
@jensterooniam
@jensterooniam 4 ай бұрын
Amazing interview Rania. I can't thank you enough for bringing so much vital information forward through such powerful dialogue.
@rolandhippe903
@rolandhippe903 7 ай бұрын
Coming from an old guy [70] years it,s s refreshing to find young people [no offence] who are up to speed on the going,s on in the world and history .Certainly more informed than I was at your age. keep doing what youre doing. cheers.😁
@alanconlan8337
@alanconlan8337 Жыл бұрын
Superbly intelligent presentation showing there is hope for the US people after the coming revolution and total upheaval of the corrupt system
@nicholasevangelos5443
@nicholasevangelos5443 Жыл бұрын
I like this interview very much. Nevertheless, correction: John Louis O'Sullivan brought the term manifest destiny into widespread use in 1845, at time when J.Q. Adams was late in life (although he was still serving in Congress until his death in 1848).
@longyou8254
@longyou8254 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, great guest
@suzymac27
@suzymac27 5 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT Reporting 😊 HISTORICAL FACTS 😊😊😊😊
@BillKort-xo8nj
@BillKort-xo8nj 2 ай бұрын
Great guest and great interview Rania.
@sombut415
@sombut415 Жыл бұрын
This is so deep 👏👏👏👏👍👍🇺🇸
@dkblack1289
@dkblack1289 Жыл бұрын
I am always overwhelmed by the intellectuals populating the left and I always wonder why the sharp difference with the right who are usually mediocre or just average. I have been rambling through various philosophers for two decades and I seem to find my answer in Hegel's idea of Divinity through rational truth which is repeated in German Romantism of Johann Gottifried Herder. The genius of Karl Marx is in making the divine accessible to all those who are willing. What is clear to me is that once you are in search of rational Truth in human affairs, your lot is already cast with the left.
@pausereflect5911
@pausereflect5911 Жыл бұрын
Brains versus brawn. Thugs always beat up the intellectuals.
@numbersix8919
@numbersix8919 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for introducing this Mr. Pawel!
@PrincipalDBA
@PrincipalDBA 6 ай бұрын
Good to meet you Mr Wargan. The perspective hold true. Seems all this trouble is about capitalism and trying to keep it going.
@Mirrorimagerule
@Mirrorimagerule 4 ай бұрын
Pawel, you are great! Keep it up!
@chrisgreene2623
@chrisgreene2623 7 ай бұрын
As a host you ask great questions. Nice to see somebody understands recent history.
@kathreenpoulos3341
@kathreenpoulos3341 5 ай бұрын
Shape shifting imperialism you nailed it.
@Jimi_Lee
@Jimi_Lee Жыл бұрын
Great show! 😊👍
@LabrosPanos
@LabrosPanos 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kindness.
@suzymac27
@suzymac27 5 ай бұрын
Excellent Reporting HISTORICAL FACTS 😊
@charlesmoyo1284
@charlesmoyo1284 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant guest and interview. Almost prophetic
@mikebacchus721
@mikebacchus721 Жыл бұрын
it was US that form NATO to fight and break up USSR all Europe countries still have to follow orders from the US today. US is still the leader of NATO COUNTRIES.
@alexa.9446
@alexa.9446 17 күн бұрын
Writing from Hungary and Romania, where is split my time, I can only say that this is a conversation you could never have with anyone who survived communism. The sheer ignorance is breathtaking.
@kathycollett4318
@kathycollett4318 6 ай бұрын
I wish everyone could and would listen to this discussion.
@kaimingraymondchoi9909
@kaimingraymondchoi9909 4 ай бұрын
Excellent interview. Both very learned persons.Thank you.
@zeissiez
@zeissiez Жыл бұрын
Please also check out “Tales of the American Empire”.
@Disorder2312
@Disorder2312 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the most censored topics to talk on KZbin, so i really appreciate talking about it. It seems that you can still say some bad stuff about Ukraine on KZbin, but accusing USA or NATO of Nazi heritage gets censored with certainty.
@Brianbeesandbikes
@Brianbeesandbikes Жыл бұрын
We NEED some tangible examples of what's working in your closing remarks! Great discussion.
@examplerkey
@examplerkey 6 ай бұрын
Excellent interviews, worth archiving! I wish people advising our governments are like Pawel and Rania.
@suzymac27
@suzymac27 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌 Rania
@elsonicsanto
@elsonicsanto 6 ай бұрын
Hi Rania, I like your presentations and your clean honest soul. Would love to have you in Bengaluru (Bangalore) to visit and appreciate the peaceful and gentle people blessed with aircondioned climate. throughout the year.
@misterjones2u
@misterjones2u 2 ай бұрын
Really interesting and vital discussion, thank you
@matthewryan2060
@matthewryan2060 7 ай бұрын
I remembered watching a film about the Nuremberg trails and one of the lawyers had a monologue about this very subject. The film was from the 60s and I was fascinated by the fact that I never heard that once while in school during the early 2000s.
@jacquelinehubbuck7067
@jacquelinehubbuck7067 6 ай бұрын
The best most illuminating video have watched he has nailed everything with pinpoint accuracy and in such an articulate way,thankyou.
@HarrryClaudeLaBar
@HarrryClaudeLaBar 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. TRUTH is so rare.
@matsemillian
@matsemillian 7 ай бұрын
Loving this channel. Great interview!
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