3 Affordable Super 8 Cameras | ENTRY LEVEL OPTIONS

[@danielkornak3]

I bought nizo s55 for like 25 dollars. It turned out that I wasn't able to see anything in viewfinder. I unscrewd the camera and glued this small mirror near prism. Now it works perfectly :)

[@gr6e]

My wife found an Emdeko EM-8000 at goodwill today for $12, and it seriously looks like it's never been used before. No dust or dirt anywhere, everything is shiny and brand new, and I can't wait to get some film for it and see if it even works

[@acmcdesign]

I’ve had the best luck with the Argus/Cosina 704, 706, 708 series of cameras. Highly recommend them as an economy camera, especially the 708 which has the best features.

[@AnalogResurgence]

Also good! I’ve heard solid things from people using Argus/Cosina models.

[@BasedStory]

"I dont want this camera price to go up. I dont think I have that impact" *opens google waiting for the camera name*

[@teddydestodes]

Hi, I just want to say thank you. I've bought 2 broken yashica ld-8s from ebay (mainly because of your videos) in the hopes of getting one working, now I have 2 fully working ones, and received my first film from the lab and it's looking great. For some reason both had only a broken battery grip (broken cables and lightly corroded contacts). So chances are if you find a non working ld-8 it could be easily repaired if you have some technical skills. There is also a service guide available online.

[@josephlynnes4849]

So I guess I will finally close that ebay tab of a $500 Nizo 156... Great video!

[@alexalba4185]

thanks for the helpful video! cant wait to get one. really interested in how these work and the footage it takes compared to digital.

[@thenexthobby]

Seems sorta like the old argument for buying the best smartphone model: Over time its expense will PALE in comparison to running it, so you might as well get one that’s nicer to use. As a kid in the 80s I briefly used the Brownie my parents had, but the only films we had transferred (to VHS) were from much earlier (mid ‘60s). For indoor usage imagine having to sport a double-floodlight attachment. For the subject, it was like looking into the sun whenever dad came around with the camera.

[@kp-ti1xv]

I've picked up a fully functional Nizo S800 for 75€ (that's Like 83 USD). Sometimes the price of a camera also depends on the country you live in (I'm from Germany and the prices of Nizo cameras here aren't nearly as crazy as in the US)

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Yeah Nizos, together with Revue and Bauer cameras, are the most common ones over here in Germany so thankfully those are often pretty affordable.

[@autumnkeys]

My best deal to date I ever got on something off ebay was a Yashica Super 600 camera, guy found it at an estate auction and clearly didn't know it's worth, I bid and won the camera for $5 + $15 shipping :)

[@mc25141]

I just got Minolta Autopak-8 D6 about 60€ from eBay a few weeks ago, but I didn't try any test shot yet, only test if the camera works. Everything works fine, only lightmeter seems not to work. May be I didn't load any film in camera yet. I presume there is no film indicate ASA to the lightmeter. However I'm really excited to begin my Super8 journey. Thanks you for inspiring videos 😊✌️

[@moosejawmedia9987]

Just bought a film tested Minolta Autopak 8-D6 this morning, glad it got a mention! Thanks for all the info.

[@haydenrandomantes4580]

I'm about to get 2 rolls of 16mm film to shoot on my Krasnogorsk-3. It really is a shame I have to spend 100$ for 5-6 minutes of filming, AND spend the addition 130$ to get it developed and scanned. So Super 8 may cut the cost down a lot, but sadly also the quality :( but it'll do. Love your videos Noah! Keep up the good work

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

Depends on what's your aim. Doing some REAL filming? 16mm. It can (when properly exposed & scanned) easily provide better-than-1080p quality. S8 is "only" an amateur format because of the vastly inferior image quality, even with the best stock available (Kodak Vision3 50D).

[@raymondzrike]

The price of a 50’ roll of 8mm is about $30 vs 100’ of 16mm is about 50$, so the price for the stock is actually pretty similar. Then scanning is actually sometimes more expensive for 8mm than 16mm, if you want acceptable scans. The only thing that’s actually substantially cheaper with 8mm right now is the gear/cameras. But you’ve already got that side of it taken care of, so I would just put your money into 16mm and forget about 8mm honestly.

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

@@raymondzrike Agreed. Provided his copy of the Krasnogorsk-3 is without problems (then, he's lucky!), it's better to stick with it than shooting Super8, assuming he wants to have excellent image quality.

[@Shanesshiit]

You should talk about using old film if you come across it for cheap. I have heard about hacking exposure with super 8 cameras, some old films probably need to be over exposed. I have a couple cameras with the step later detector, but dont fully understand it. I have just used my manual ones so far and over exposed a stop with good results..

[@Shanesshiit]

I recently developed some old Kodachrome 40 and i was really surprised how well it turned out! I did the peroxide/vinegar reversal process for a black and white positive. It looks good, though it ends up as a light brown base, it doesn't bother me to much projecting it, but you could just convert it to black and white in post for a digital transfer. Don't spend money for sure, but when you find them in cameras at your thrift store then definitely grab them!

[@briansegarra9312]

How you did it ? I have peroxide and citric acid that I use for paper reversal that I could probably use , what developer and time you used ?

[@Shanesshiit]

@@briansegarra9312 I used Kodak HC-110 for developer. I used peroxide 3% and white vinegar instead of citric acid, since it is cheaper and already mixed. I did about 15 minutes developing, 15 minutes bleaching, Luke warm from my microwave. A few minutes to re-expose to light. 2 minutes for second developing. No fixer needed but maybe a good idea for long term, especially if projection is your main use. Film was expired 1981

[@martyjackson4166]

Seconded on the Minolta! I got the XL-400 (pretty much functionally identical to the XL-401) for $15 and it’s a great, reliable little camera, perfect for starting out or just like a grab-and-go situation when I don’t feel like using my Canon 814 Electronic

[@curtkennedyscorner8949]

This might be a dumb question. I just bought the Sankyo camera you put in the video. I didn't know that it only exposed at 160. I bought 50 and 500 film beforehand. If i used the 500 film would it not work at all or expose only up to 160? Love your channel!

[@Ni5ei]

Choosing between a Minolta 401 and 601 can be tricky. They are exactly the same camera and only the lenses are different. The 401 has an 8.5 to 34mm f:/1.2 lens while the 601 has a 7.5 to 45mm f:/1.7 lens. So when you choose the 601 be aware that you're losing a full stop in speed in return for a larger zoom range.

[@diskkun4120]

This title is going to become false very quickly... "Affordable" becomes "price-gauged" when videos like this come out, haha. Thanks for posting though, I love the content.

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

Instead of eBay, try hunting for old film cameras in trift stores / flea markets. There, very few sellers are aware of the gaining popularity of S8 or these cameras in particular.

[@GregoryVeizades]

@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 Wish that were true. SF area california there are next to no deals to be had.

[@giec3484]

One good thing to think about, even with the recent Super8 comeback and the format slowly growing back in popularity, I think we are still in that time-span where people selling Super8 cameras are more willing to get rid of it rather than making a profit out of something that people (suddenly) are interested in (hello, film cameras!). So IMHO it's still pretty easy to find very good deals as long as long as the seller can guarantee that the camera's working. That's how I got my Yashica! I think that a very important thing to do first is narrow the range of brands/models you want to choose from, because there are hundreds of them, and going blindly will probably make you go nuts!

[@alexanderspence3718]

hi there i was wondering if you had the yashica super 800 electro, since i dont know how the in built 85a filter works and was wondering if you had any insight?

[@giec3484]

@@alexanderspence3718 Sure! Unlike other Super8 cameras, like the CANON ones, when you have a selector for the filter, in the Yashica 800 is automatically toggled by the film cartridge. If you look right at the open cartidge chamber, you'll notice a small button on the lower right corner, which toggles (you can see it by looking through the lens) the 85A filter. The cartridges have or don't have a dent on that spot that will push the button, depending on wether they are meant to be shot on Tungsten or Daylight light!

[@alexanderspence3718]

@@giec3484 thanks! That's super helpful!

[@themusictree9447]

Thank you for your great videos--just starting. Tow quick questions:1. Where is a place that repairs these cameras (Canon and Minolta), 2. Where can I get actual film processing (I want to project the film I shoot)?

[@AstroSamDev]

I have always wanted to get into super 8 videography. Thanks for posting the video!

[@eriksnel6461]

some other suggestions for cheap but good cameras :eumig mini 3 and 5 iso 40-160, Eumig 125XL, 128XL. plenty of them are made so many are still good. there is also the 830, 860 and 880 PMA cameras, they are also very good and there are still plenty. there are sooooo many other brands and models that still will do the job fine without spending tons of money on canons, nikons, beaulieu etcetera

[@AnalogResurgence]

Eumig has some good ones!

[@lucasdebarros8712]

Great video, thanks for the info. Got myself a Super 800 Electro after seeing this. One question: can you explain to me how does the 85A filter work on it? I want to shoot with Vision 3 200T outside.

[@autisticrebel1253]

A really good camera to review would be the Canon Motor Zoom 8 EEE, it is more advanced than a lot of standard 8 cameras. I have used one and it is really good.

[@nicholassheffo5723]

Nice choices, but the Yashica is the best-built, though that Sankyo is one of their few good ones.

[@doctorstrobe]

at 0:26 for a second i thought you were gonna say "I dont know you and I dont't... want to."

[@tedwunderlich2741]

List starts at 4:00

[@superlo6587]

Hey Man This Vid Was Very Helpful! Im looking at buying a Vivitar super 8 Camera and i wanted to know if you think that is a good choice. Also if i do purchase it can i use Kodak film on it?

[@spookisghostly4619]

I spent $20 on an old Argus from the late 60's off eBay and I was surprised the thing looks like a take though it's all metal

[@spencerfalzy]

Just bought a MINTY yashica super 800. May have never been used, but the light meter doesn’t work. Technically you can control the aperture manually with the front cover off but I bought a second one and I’m hoping to use the shell of the first one on it.

[@RoddyTullenz]

I paid $30 at a thrift store for my Super-800 Electro.

[@nielsieoiets]

My latest purchase was a canon514xl for 30 euros :). Fully working!

[@eladbari]

I noticed you gotta slap some duck tape onto the knobs of the Minolta 401/601 on the right side- as these suckers get switched unintentionally. So you end up with tungsten gel in daylight.. :\

[@michaelbruchas6663]

Have and used the Yashica. Sankyo sold well in Europe but had poor distribution in the US. The Minolta is a bit of a rarity….

[@AeromaticXD]

I have a Sankyo Super LXL... not film tested yet, but it seems to be working.... it has a macro focusing lens!

[@fabriziogiovanardi9066]

Hi man! Thanks for this amazing content. I'd like to have some advice..I'm going to buy a super 8 camera but i can't really decide between the yashika super 800 electro and canon 514xl..what do you suggest or reccomend?

[@AnalogResurgence]

I like the Yashica, but the Canon is of a bit higher quality for the lens. Yashica is likely cheaper and can make for a good starter camera though! Feature wise there’s not a big difference between the two, but the Yashica can do 24fps whereas the Canon doesn’t go higher than 18fps

[@chatabouttat9577]

I picked up a Chino classic of eBay for £5 and tested it with a expired mag of super 8 that I developed in my Paterson tank as a black and white negative

[@fcam]

Could you make a full review of the Yashica Super-800 Electro? Just got one for $20, everything worked when I put battery but after a few minutes the motor stopped rolling. Everything else works and when you press the trigger, it shows “end” in the viewfinder. Don’t know if the motor broke or if I need to rewind or something (don’t even know if this is a thing lol)

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

And folks, don't forget if you find Super8 film stock to be expensive (particularly here in Europe), Double Super 8 is way (about three times more) more affordable if you can put up with shooting b/w.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Well i thought about it too but came to the conclusion that i might as well just shoot 16mm then. Only problem is finding an inexpensive 16mm camera.

[@QwertyAsdfgZxcvb1]

At 10:57 you said Minolta XL 501 instead of Minolta XL 601. I searched for a XL 501 and couldn't find it and then went back to the video and noticed the photos said XL 601

[@yingtianfu]

I have a Canon zoom 250, I understand that it’s a lower end super 8 camera from Canon. I haven’t shoot on it yet, do you think it’s any good? Thank you! I would really appreciate your feedbacks! Great video!

[@FrankAndPhotoTutorials]

This is kind of off topic but I have a bell and howell Two-Thirty 8mm movie camera, and I can't find anything about it. Do you know anything?

[@entity9742]

Dont buy kodachrome super 8 cartridges on ebay? Well i found a few that were only 5-7$ along with some old ektachrome for 14-15$ and im just testing on them to see if the cameras work decently

[@jamesoniris2647]

You should do a top 8 video on the best super 8 cameras and call it “The SUPER 8 SUPER 8 cameras” I am really funne

[@mattlovestechyt]

Where is the best place to buy them?

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Are Bauer Cameras not a thing in North America?

[@eriksnel6461]

lets hope super 8 will become more popular. yes the cameras will become more expensive but, just bair with me... the price on films could go down :) (hope)

[@valenfields]

I did found Minolta camera on eBay but it said it was untested

[@xanderopiyo6503]

dam what a fun + informative video thx homie

[@nbvw3]

Excuse the dumb question, but why don't Super 8 cams with sound make sense - does the sound not get digitised along with the image?

[@nbvw3]

I retract that - I just saw your other video about that!

[@sdccguy]

I picked up a Korvette ZE 201 I'm trying to find info on it to maybe get it appraised or repaired

[@raymondzrike]

Are there sound-sync 8mm cameras? I’m assuming the 8mm cameras with sound you’re referring to are the ones that record sound directly to the film print, but I’m talking about an 8mm camera with a crystal-sync motor. Do they exist? Probably not cheap if they do.

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

Beaulieu 6008 Pro ( super8wiki.com/index.php/Beaulieu_6008_Pro ) out of the box or, among others, the 1014XL-S mods.

[@eastvillepark6037]

Cosina made some good super 8 cameras

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Alright man, if this Bolex 155 I’m putting a $33 gamble on doesn’t work. (And trying to convince myself the world isn’t out to get me lol) I’ll start saving up some $$$ and go with your suggestions. I hear from filmboy24 some of those Chinon models are pretty good and compact.

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Yup the Bolex works. I put in an expired cartridge of Ektachrome 160 G to test how good it works I put a dot on the film, let it go for a few seconds took it out, and I didn’t see the mark I made, so it looks like the motor seems to be working and advancing the film. I’m pretty excited. Took me over a decade to get a working S8 but here I am!

[@sj.vanlaarhoven4535]

i have a question for you where can I find cheap super 8 in the Netherlands I develop it at home using caffenol but in the Netherlands there are almost no sources for new super 8 and old is almost unfindable I don't care if it is Kodachrome because you can develop it with caffenol

[@foreverandmorefilms]

Nice Video

[@gageminnows441]

Just picked up a gaf ST/602. Seems to have lots of features. Any one have any experience with these???

[@SUBORNOVISION]

Hi Noah, this is Iftekhar from Toronto. Your videos are really helpful. I am new in super 8 world. Got interested recently after buying a sankyo 700 sound projector and some super 8 movie.I am now looking for a super 8 camera ,searching in ebay. The big challenge is to find a real working camera. Most of the cameras has problems sometimes hidden by sellers. However, I am looking for any repairing shop or any person in Toronto who can repair Canon Super 8 camera ( like canon 514 XL-S). I hope you can help me to provide some contacts of repairing shops in GTA. Thanks in advance.

[@AnalogResurgence]

Unfortunately Super 8 repair is rare. There's no where in the city that offers that sort of service. Pro8mm in California might be able to help: www.pro8mm.com/

[@SUBORNOVISION]

@@AnalogResurgence Thanks for your reply. I got some info about repair from some super 8 web sites. But these info are old. I am not sure whether they are still do repairs or not. Is there any local GTA based online super 8 forum ? it will be helpful for everyone to exchange views regarding technical issues.

[@cesargato8324]

Is there any digital cartrige solution to use instead of the normal film ones? It would be a great idea to resurge super 8 again.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

you mean like a digital back but for super 8? I'm not aware of anything like that. But it sure would be an interesting DIY project.

[@DomPolly]

What type of film did you use in the Sankyo for the shot at 7:03?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Tri-X black and white reversal!

[@DomPolly]

Analog Resurgence Looks really nice! Thanks

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

If the camera auto exposure function is not functioning, will it affect how the film is expose?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Many cameras only had auto-exposure function, if it isn’t working then the film won’t be exposed properly while shooting. There are many cameras though that have manual exposure controls as well which means you can set your lens aperture manually for correct exposure of the auto setting isn’t working.

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

@@AnalogResurgence This Super 8mm film hobby thing is super dicey. You never know what kinds condition the camera is even though you have spend a bit of money to buy it. The mechanical parts of the camera will most like to be in working condition, but the any electronic parts are mostly dead for these 40+ years old cameras.

[@giviesiava2905]

Hi,what do you think about canon 310xl or 514xl, is it any good?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Both are great cameras!

[@bullshitter905]

But newer super 8 (Kodak Vision 3 50D) are for 50ASA. the Minolta cant do that

[@Caspersdaddy]

The Minolta will read it as 25/40ISO - absolutely no problem to shoot at all 😊

[@Norri3l_]

i have the electro 600. i just want to know for sure if i can buy and use 500t film without having to buy an external filter

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

It should have an internal 85 filter so you can definitely use it outside with 500T. Super8 films were commonly designed to be Tungsten balanced films so the 500T won't cause any problems here when shooting under daylight. However this model doesn't seem to have a manual switch as i can see. So it may rely on that notch detection inside the film cassette compartment that pushes against the notch and enable the 85 filter. You can test that by running the camera without film at a slow speed and peek through the filmgate. If you see the picture inside the filmgate turning more orange if you push in a notch inside, that should indicate the notch indeed enables the 85 filter.

[@Norri3l_]

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 thank you so much this was much appreciated and needed I was so scared to mess up because it’s so expensive to develop out here in ny🤦🏾‍♂️!!!

[@leviathan_dps1572]

Do you anything about the Elmo Super 8 Sound 612S-XL? I'm looking to buy one and I want to know if it is actually worth it.

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

get it if you can for cheap, it's pretty good: super8wiki.com/index.php/Elmo_612_S_XL

[@Caspersdaddy]

It’s actually a very good camera with a very sharp lens!

[@ajenganugrah6738]

again, PLEASE TALK ABOUT SINGLE 8, PROFESSOR.

[@jamesa375]

ok film can never be as cheap as video,but if there will be any chance for it to survive the logistics are simple,a roll should cost about 5$ to shoot and develop,so half hour of film would cost about 50$.Which is still afortune to the zero cost of video but people who love film could spend that much.If the chinese can do that then theres a future.If it cant be done most people who want to try super 8 will shoot a couple of rolls,spend a ton of money and then try to sell their camera on ebay.

[@andrewbarnum5040]

Thanks, now the demand for these cheap camers is going to skyrocket along with the price.

[@redmig5]

wouldn't it be great if there were more camera repairmen so it wouldn't be as expensive to fix these guys up :')

[@larryroyovitz7829]

Question, I'm hoping someone can answer. I have a Canon 1014 original, not the XLS model. Can you change or add other lenses to these cameras?

[@AnalogResurgence]

No the camera has a fixed lens on it! You cannot remove it for a different one.

[@larryroyovitz7829]

@@AnalogResurgence That's what I thought. Is it a capable camera otherwise? It seems popular-ish. Came across it by fluke.

[@AnalogResurgence]

Very solid camera! Canon had some great Super 8 models

[@larryroyovitz7829]

@@AnalogResurgence Great news. Thanks. Unfortunately it's not running. Its in great shape, so I think it's likely the battery connections through the handle assembly. There's a camera repair place in my local city...we'll see how it goes, once covid gets better!

[@BadKarma714]

I live in Garden Grove California where is that store Pro 8 Oh never mind it’s in Burbank I think

[@Jamie-ux2lw]

Not going to lie I found the *ugliest* that you can imagine Super 8 camera for 1€ in my countries equivalent to Craigslist

[@srenhaandbk7904]

Gimme a model, i wanna see this

[@Jamie-ux2lw]

​@@srenhaandbk7904 It's a "VIGNETTE 3 Super 8 Camera" It seems like it some kind of special edition or something like that because I can't find much information on it But it looks like the previous owner might have Replace the leather with *cork board*