Shooting with the PRO814 Super 8 Camera | PRO8MM

I got out with the Pro814 Super 8 camera from Pro8mm to shoot some Super 8 and show off the camera! Huge thanks to Pro8mm for sponsoring this stuff and helping me shoot even more film this year to show you all!
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[@Derginator]

Every video you do about super 8 I look at my wallet and think “not now, later”

[@AnalogResurgence]

Every video I do about super 8 my wallet looks at me and says ‘my god what have you done’

[@therestorationofdrwho1865]

@@AnalogResurgence My wallet doesn’t even look at me, it doesn’t exist.

[@orangebetsy]

@@therestorationofdrwho1865 My wallet beat the shit outa me last year.

[@carstenkoloc5226]

I hope film-making exists still for many years.🎞🎥🎬😝✌️🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

[@bryandawkins]

I could used one these 40ty years ago back in the 1970's when I was shooting my zero budget sci-fi epics

[@iDigress77times]

I mean you had more than a zero budget.

[@thedenmeister6414]

You've gotta upload them here, I am dying to watch zero budget scifi

[@1CONOCLA5T]

Awesome video. I actually own one of those exact model cameras I bought used. In haven't run any film through it yet but I did get it signed by my favorite directors last year back before the pandemic when such things were possible. I managed to get it signed by Tim Burton, Terry Gilliam, John Waters, Werner Herzog, Kenneth Anger and Floria Sigismondi! Its essentially my most prized possession at this point!

[@AnalogResurgence]

Damn what a lineup!

[@1CONOCLA5T]

@@AnalogResurgence yeah it was fantastic meeting my hero's! And they were all super nice.

[@martyjackson4166]

I can’t recommend the Canon 814 series enough. All of them are really amazing cameras. I have the Canon 814 Autozoom Electronic, and it’s always given me great results. Pro8mm has always given me great results too with their processing and scanning. They are a bit more expensive than other labs, but very user friendly and reliable and always have quality service so I think the higher price is still reasonable.

[@mickroyster6442]

How did you get yours to run because I have an 814 electronic and I haven’t tried to get it to start but do you do anything else besides put on batteries

[@martyjackson4166]

@@mickroyster6442 assuming your camera is in working condition, you should just be able to put 4 AA batteries in the handle, turn the dial switch from “off” to “R”, then press the trigger

[@super8blog71]

Once again an immensely informative video. I've seen this gear and drool about having it, one day!

[@Malandro.]

Hey man I found this camera at a street market in Italy, and I am super happy about it. I had no idea I had this, I had it sitting in my room just as decoration but today decided to do some research and came across your video. Thank you for the explanation

[@doctorstrobe]

The footage is insanely good!

[@e_mo_son2646]

awesome review bro, really informative thanks heaps! 🙏

[@MSLLUXE]

So informative, thanks so much!

[@paulbelloni4932]

This was VERY helpful; thank you SO much.

[@chromatic-we9eo]

You channel is awesome and I have been watching your videos for a long time now. Here is a constructive comment: I think you should slow down a bit. Maybe it's how you edit. There is almost no pause between your sentences. You give us detailed info on your cameras and films and that is amazing. Just slow down a bit. Make it sound more like a conversation (more intimate and relatable). I am not a video creator but I know a good deal about speech, language and communication. I am a subscriber as well! Cheers!

[@Meofcourse2319]

I was able to get my hands on this camera at a thrift store a couple years ago for like, $10. Looking at this video, it was definitely a great opportunity. I haven’t been able to get my hands on any film, but I’m considering it now.

[@MIKIZAZPIKI]

Great camera!

[@legohkfan]

Great video m8! Can u talk more about pro8 processing and all of their services?

[@antneybodean]

Thank you for demoing how the audio can drift off! That wasn't super clear in the explanation but in the video its noticable right away. It does add some interesting character to it though! :)

[@CreepingDead]

I know I’m going to end up buying one of these.

[@CreepingDead]

I ended up buying one of these lol

[@cubdukat]

I'm hoping to get a Pro814 after the new year. I've owned various 814's over the years, but this is as close to a new one as I'm likely to get. I'm tired of trolling eBay and taking a crap shoot on getting a quasi-decent one; I'd rather just get one of these and be done with it. That was my go-to camera back in the day.

[@tedse21]

I have a Zoom 518 not quite up to this standard but it was free and works well. I must look at working the light metre into the main battery supply.

[@into.the.wood.chipper.]

Used to have an 814. If it had a video tap, I would totally get another one.

[@autisticrebel1253]

I have an Eaton's majestic super 8 camera which has manual and automatic exposure, The canon motor zoom 8 EEE also has this feature.

[@areallyrealisticguyd4333]

MonsterFlipsUSA also does a lot of great work on super 8 cameras!

[@seand5517]

That was nice footage. 24fps is definitely more noticeably better. What scan was it? 2k or 4k?

[@autisticrebel1253]

The Olympus OM-10 has a similar feature and it works very well.

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

I have a Sankyo XM XL camera with a bad viewfinder, but everything else is near brand new. Therefore, I must shoot it while manually focus. I would like to know if the distances indicated on the focus ring is the where the zone of focus is, or is everything within that distance is in focus?

[@btrdangerdan2010]

I haven't really used my Minolta XL400 in a while since it's expensive to develop

[@tentothec2625]

Maybe you could take a look at Zenit Quartz 1x8C-2, it's a neat little soviet Super8 camera, super cheap being second-hand (got my for like 10 bucks in full set)

[@kassandra9448]

I have this one and it's great! sometimes the rolls come back blank is there a special trick to tell if its catching the film besides the sharpie trick?

[@robertfontenotmorris733]

With a sound camera with a sound monitor, I was wondering with a cartridge in the camera and capturing, Can you use an external audio device that runs through the camera to capture the while it is running or does it have to have a sound cartridge to have monitoring sound?

[@wellingtonnickles7560]

I was about to purchase the PRO814 until you explained about the sync motors not syncing to sound. Can you suggest something similar to the PRO814 that does have sound syncing motors?

[@4CardsMan]

I had a new Canon 1014XLS and a Beaulieu 4008. I hated the Beaulieu, but the Canon was a dream.

[@stefflus08]

Nice! Your sprocket hole is doing the same wobble uniformly. Is the sprocket crooked?

[@AnalogResurgence]

The sprockets on Super 8 aren’t incredibly precise when punched in manufacturing! So if you were to say use it as a reference point for stabilizing or scanning then it could be an issue. On a good scan the frame should remain mostly stationary while the sprocket moves because of the variations in spacing.

[@Andrew12759]

I actually have one of these. Have not shot with it yet. No matter what I try, I can NOT get the light meter needle to register.

[@michatroschka]

could someone explain how the exposure mechanism in super 8 or cameras in general works? and what the exposure setting changes? thanks! i have a nizo and i dont really understand that, also it doesnt help that the batteries for the internal light meter that i used are a bit too hight voltage. thanks ;))

[@tassadar1977]

I would advise you to ignore your internal meter (they are old and crap imho) and learn how to use your external one for consistent results. Learn reflective and spot metering and read about the Zone system. The times given for shutter speeds in this video only apply to this Canon camera. The nizo 801 has a 170 degree angle and I believe this Canon has 150 shutter angle.

[@jurajvrkljan7532]

Hi! I have a problem with my super 8 camera. Everything works incredibly well, but my focus ring is stuck at around 5 meters, and I cannot move it. Could anyone help me? Btw, I have a Canon Zoom 318. Sincerely, George

[@kunaikai]

so is the next episode going to be the high end camera

[@seand5517]

Hi do you think the Canon 1014 has significantly better quality than the canon 814?

[@ralphhoskins2115]

Such a nice camera,,, but why don’t they ever send you reversal film ?

[@filmeproductions]

Dear my friend, Hello from CYPRUS. I am new in super 8 filmmaker. i saw a lot of youtube videos and i try to understand how i can shut with super 8 camera. CAN YOU GIVE SOME ADVICES HOW I CAN USE THE scale in camera CAMERA with the MANUAL EXPOSURE. What i have to do when the camera metering system (like you video in 8:43) show 2 or 16 in other case. Please help me and other people to understand how we can use the manual exposure.. thanks for your help and for your excellent videos.

[@jrewretro]

I purchased my camera on eBay and had a successful first roll developed, the last two rolls I’ve sent off have come back completely blank and is very disappointing, any suggestions/ thoughts on why I’m getting this result ? Thanks !

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

This is a bit late, but maybe your camera shutter is closed.

[@ItsWilheim]

So you're saying Canon's prices really haven't changed in over 50 years? Sounds about right.

[@Impermeabilizados]

This wide aspect maybe is the most impressive feature of Pro8mm cameras. What camera works with the same aspect?

[@AnalogResurgence]

The aspect ratio of the frame size seen here is the standard Super 8 frame size that most cameras have. The film is over scanned to see outside of the frame, but the frame is the same as most Super 8 cameras. Pro8 has in the past offered what’s called Max8 conversion for a full widescreen aspect ratio of the frame size that extends further on the right side of the frame. It is best to contact them and see which cameras they offer a Max 8 conversion for currently.

[@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112]

If you don’t mind going the Double Super 8 way (if you can put up with b/w film, shooting can turn out to be a LOT cheaper than with “real” Super8), at least some of the S8-modified Bolex H8 (Rex) cameras also have (almost) full-width gates even, in cases, approaching the Max8 aspect ratio (1.58). I have two modified Bolex H8 (Rex) cameras with widened gates: 1, an RX model 3. This has an excellent ratio of 1,571 ( see for example kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYvIYaxmfZanpaM ; particularly the parts shot with the normal/tele lens) 2, a non-RX model. This is narrower (1,539) but still significantly better than the 1.44 ratio of stock S8 (example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nInbmKOkgb6ia9k ) Note 1: with both cameras, I used the standard (stock) three prime lens and not anything zoom. These lens are vastly different in the two systems. However, in both cases, they’re similar in that the widest one (5,5mm) has a narrower image circle than the (widened) Super8 frame. This is particularly the case with the non-RX version, which, originally, was a D-mount one (and not “C”). The normal and tele lens, however, fully make use of the available image area. Note 2: I don’t know how other (modded) Bolex H8 cameras behave - whether their aspect ratio exceeds the S8-standard 1,44. Should you want to go DS8 and purchase a Bolex camera, ask for a scan of a frame first to easily see the aspect ratio. (Prefer overscans if possible so that you can see whether there’s also full vertical space usage. My Rex above doesn't have a single(!) unused row; the standard H8 is a bit worse in this respect.) While I have no fewer than three modded RX cameras (and the above-mentioned non-RX one), only another one of them is in working condition at the time and I still couldn’t get its test roll developed, “thanks” to the travel restrictions caused by CoVid. Note 3:the above only applies to Bolex H8 Rex cameras and not anything “officially” supporting DS8: a, Quartz DS8-3. The aspect ratio (AR for short) of these are about the standard 1,44: 1,454 (example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJLJlWBjZrRrhcU ) b, Canon DS8: this is also almost standard S8-wide: 1,47 (example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6vLeZpja5eam5I ) c, Pathé DS8: this is even narrower than the standard: 1,42 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ7VdHysaa-gnqc ) (Too bad the Canon DS8 isn’t very wide - otherwise, it’s the go-to camera for me as the, compared to the RX primes, inferior-quality lens isn’t a problem with the b/w Fomapan stock and, othrwise, its usability is FAAAAAAAR superior to that of the Bolex cameras.)

[@AnalogResurgence]

@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 Keep in mind that Pro8 themselves offer Ektachrome in DS8, with potentially more color options to follow in the future, meaning it's not limited to black and white anymore.

[@MicrophonicFool]

Ahhh Dude! When did you take a roadtrip from Toronto to the Lake Counties? I have many pictures of the Mustang Drive-in: i.imgur.com/0DQgTZn.jpg I haven't lived there forever, but pre-covid when I was allowed to travel I always stop there on the way by. Perhaps there is a closer Mustang Drive-in I didn't know about? Research: I had no idea there were so many...

[@AnalogResurgence]

Canadian Thanksgiving! Love the area, I have family there.

[@mickroyster6442]

I’m 16 and I got a canon 814 super 8 from my dad that he got in college in the 90’s and I live in North Carolina so I have almost no places in my part of the country that work with film cameras that I know of

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

You will have to mail the film to CA for processing and scanning. Pro8mm

[@iDigress77times]

How long do you think Super 8 will be around?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Kodak’s sales for the film have been on a good increase over the last decade especially and they reintroduced Ektachrome in Super 8 in 2018 as well. I’m sure the format will survive for years to come.

[@iDigress77times]

@@AnalogResurgence I am just scared to invest in a Pro814 and then bam no more film haha. And developing is wildly priced. Do you think that will ever go down? Thanks again for answering questions as always. You the best! I am gonna contribute to you Patreon soon because I think you're doing solid work here and I believe you. I want you to make a living off this because you are a key element in keeping film alive these days.

[@AnalogResurgence]

@@iDigress77times Thank you so much for those kind words! Also I just saw this article this morning in regards to the future of Super 8! www.super8.tv/en/new-super-8-films-soon/

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

The films will, but not sure about the cameras. There is no new camera being made. It's like vintage airplanes.

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

@@AnalogResurgence Euro films are EXPENSIVE!

[@realspyfrog]

It feels so strange to see modern computers and cars in Super8 movies....

[@knife-wieldingspidergod5059]

And seeing people using mobile phones to video while you were filming them. Like alternate 1980/2022 universe ✨🤯

[@christianschonberger9695]

Looking great! As far as I know on the Canon only the gate has been widened to Max8, so the lens is not re-centered, nor the viewfinder widened (next to impossible with the Canon). So how did you center your image so nicely? I have a Super 16 converted K-3. Getting the framing right is a matter of practice (in the future I will use my cell phone to help it out). Anyway: the footage looks really nice and very stable. Thanks for sharing this! Film rocks.

[@AnalogResurgence]

This Canon is not modified for Max8 (though that is a conversion that Pro8 is able to offer on special request). If you watch the footage you can see it has the regular Super 8 frame size because of the empty black space on the right side past the frame. A Max8 frame size would cover this entire area similar to Super 16.

[@JR_Taylor]

Alas the price of super8 film processing and telecine has killed it. I knew after two years the Kodak couldn't deliver the eco system need and the price of there prerelease 35mm film show me they will never get to a price point that I could enjoy my old canon 1014xls, anyone wanna buy it?

[@iDigress77times]

How much?

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Does Pro8mm resurrect possible dead ones too? Because I’m taking a $101 gamble on a untested one…👀

[@AnalogResurgence]

Best to reach out to them directly and ask!

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

@@AnalogResurgence turns out my camera does work (motor and zoom wise) that’s a relief! 😅so if I want to send them mine it would make a good canidate BUT I could get a Beaulieu or a H16 REX like I was supposed to plan but for $101 I lucked out!

[@ferretace]

Can it do stop motion though?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Yes! It has a socket for a standard cable release on the side in order to expose single frames.

[@ferretace]

@@AnalogResurgence Thanks, good to know. Does this one support interchangeable lens?

[@InAnInstant]

That hoax guy trippin 😂😂😂

[@AnalogResurgence]

Some poor souls have strayed too far from the light

[@MORCOPOLO0817]

I am glad they sponsored you and did not rope you into spending the rediculous $988 for a camera you can get at a flea market for $20!

[@gemista]

It’s just like the people that complain about their $500 SLR when the $10 Argus C3 from 1939 that I use takes better photos.

[@dollhausenx]

I doubt you're going to find one for that cheap. But let's say you can get one for $20, then you'll find out it doesn't work properly after spending $$ on film for processing and scanning. Genius. I have one of these cameras that I bought years ago on ebay for $250. It worked for a couple rolls, but now a roll is stuck inside. The last roll didn't turn out. I'm about to send it to Pro9m to have them refurbish for $600. But that brings it up to new specs. Pretty good for a camera that old.

[@MORCOPOLO0817]

@@dollhausenx The real Genious is you for spending $250.00 on camera that only worked for a couple of rolls. If you don't know cameras and the right questions to ask the seller, you should not be shelling out the "Bills" on it!!!

[@dollhausenx]

@@MORCOPOLO0817 These are forty or fifty year old cameras. It's not about the right questions, it's about the fact that materials don't last forever. Anyone who thinks that the flea market is full of amazing 50 year old cameras that will last forever for $20 is living in fantasy-land. The real point here is that the Pro8mm cameras are priced appropriately for the amount of time (labor) and materials that goes into refurbishing one of those cameras.

[@MORCOPOLO0817]

@@dollhausenx I had such a camera and the most it cost me was $250 from Spectra film and video to do a clean, lube and adjustment. After that it ran like a charm. If you do any business with Pro8mm, you are asking to have your wallet raided!!!!

[@braxtonrussell998]

I wish I saw this before I wasted $200 on a "[Tested]" Canon. Totally trash, corroded batteries and stuck warming filter. Also smelled like they were using it for an incense holder...

[@bottomendbliss]

cut back on the coffee

[@AnalogResurgence]

Nah

[@bottomendbliss]

@@AnalogResurgence Yeah coffee is almost as addictive as cameras and film