Analyzing History Channel's AWFUL Civil War Games

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Hey so this is different. I have another channel talking about realistic and incredibly high quality nerf guns. I wish this stuff was around when I was a kid. Check it out and maybe subscribe! kzbin.info BIG thanks to every one that kept me sane on twitch. If you want to hang out in the future you can follow me here! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon

[@milos2478]

Hey jarek have you ever heard of publisher called "Groove games" It was low budget company back in 2000s They published and also developed some titles. CTU: Marine sharpshooter (developed by Jarhead games) Marine sharpshooter 2 (developed by Jarhead games) Marine sharpshooter 3 (developed by Jarhead games) Marine sharpshooter 4 (for some reason developed by Groove Games) Pariah (developed by Digital Extremes) This is Halo clone with Awesome ragdolls physics. Land of the Dead: Road to Fiddler's Green (developed by Brain box) And more... They were something like American version of City Interactive. For example Jarhead games developed Army Ranger: Mogadishu and the game was published by Groove games, but in Europe it was published by City Interactive and they even change the game's name to Terrorist Takedown: Conflict In Mogadishu to fit the European market. Check the list here: www.mobygames.com/company/groove-games

[@alexanderhunt88]

If you wantto rename your second gaming channel, why not Jarek The Gaming Dragon Raws

[@gabrielsantosbastos5257]

Ngl, i have a crush on those type of nerf guns, sometimes i think of buying the m2 browning one even tho i wouldn't play with it as much as i whished to

[@stuglife5514]

Union troops were known to use level actions and revolving rifles, and the confederates often used their own weapons. A double barrel muzzle loading shotgun was definitely something that was used. The confederates actually used British rifles quite a lot. It would have been a lot better imo if they had these lever guns only on the union side, to show the disparity of weapons

[@drkalowski256]

U can compare the industrial capabilities of the USA and CSA by comparing rifles made by south to ones made in the north. For example arms plant in Selma, AL reverse eningeered repeating rifles. the ones made by conferdates look extremely rudimentary & rustic while the US made ones are well built. and simply by looking at the amount of arms produced by the USA and CSA.

[@abysswalker2594]

@@drkalowski256 and for many years you could use your own personal weapons in the army you just had to worry about ammo for them like someone in ww2 used single action army revolvers

[@turtek12]

@@drkalowski256 In Atlanta, there is a museum of the civil war which includes a Confederate-made rifle. It was a breach-loading weapon that was modified during the war into a muzzle-loader because the Confederates couldn't make enough ammo for the gun as-designed. The museum admits that they're not aware of anyone else ever getting that desperate.

[@turtek12]

So, fun story: lever-action and single-shot-breachloading rifles were available, but the US Army quartermaster corps vetoed them because they were afraid the troops would burn through their ammo faster than it could be supplied. Single-shot rifles were intentionally mandated to keep the rate of fire down. However, soldiers responded to this by saving their money and buying repeating rifles on their own--especially in the western theater (Tennessee-Georgia). In terms of gameplay, that's kind of a missed opportunity to have lever-action rifles be something you could level up to by saving up your soldiers' pay.

[@AtrociousAK47]

@@turtek12 also even the single-shot breech loaders were mostly reserved for cavalry, because it was acknowledged that it was near impossible to reload a muzzleloader on horseback. Cavalry were also generally fewer in number compared to regular infantry so it was easier to justify the cost, as a percussion muzzle loading musket wouldve been far far cheaper than any form of repeating gun.

[@followerofeir]

"Don't forget me!" That scene is seared into my brain forever.

[@riograndedosulball248]

*I'm glad you're here*

[@cckiller0053]

"You can still fight, move!"

[@GarkKahn]

Same here

[@abrahamtrinidad26]

Never forgot em. Played this in December 19 2007 and remembered just because of that line

[@samzorn4656]

Same here. That guy has been forever etched into my memory.

[@nathanielcrosby2426]

I wish there were more Civil War and other non-WW2/modern warfare games. There's a ton of wars like Crimea, the Franco-Prussian War, the Italian Wars of Unification, and the Russo-Japanese War that could make great games.

[@SStupendous]

@@HelghastStalker I swear I've played a "55 days at Peking" shooter, I'll send if I find it, used to be relatively popular

[@teddyfresh9605]

I can see it now....drum mag, red dot, short barreled musket with extended barrel.

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

I really want one with the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. The only time that was in a game was a few missions of CoD Black Ops 2. Just have some CIA guys fight for the mujahedin if you really want American representation.

[@FordHoard]

War of Rights is the best Civil War game currently out. Battle Cry of Freedom is also good. Good Civil War strategy game are Ultimate General: Gettysburg, Ultimate General: Civil War, and Grand Tactician: The Civil War.

[@FordHoard]

@@weirdeurasianboy8091 I want some Korean War games. There's only like 1 strategy game and DCS World has the F-86 Sabre and Mig 15.

[@jaysanj152]

playing as someone on the losing side of the war is quite a neat concept actually,shame it's done poorly in this game.

[@huytungnguyen119]

Well, almost every Vietnam War games made you play as American soldier anyway.

[@funnyperson7656]

@@HelghastStalker nah we lost

[@funnyperson7656]

@@HelghastStalker forgive me for i have not slept in 24 hours lmao

[@Mojo32]

​@@huytungnguyen119😂 True.

[@TheGayBlackMen]

Dixie forever [>

[@samz8691]

Any chance of covering 7554? It's a now free-ware COD Clone in the Franco-Indochina War, which isn't a setting you see often.

[@endless_limes]

That's really cool actually. Didn't know a game set in that era existed!

[@FR4M3Sharma]

Damn Jarek needs to check this out.

[@Derivedwhale45]

Tag Jarek and show him some footage, it looks interesting

[@varsityreviews707]

Sounds super interesting! I'll check it out!

[@huytungnguyen119]

@@endless_limes And technically the first and only Vietnamese made FPS game.

[@metalheaddread3234]

I remember playing this in middle school thinking it was the coolest damn thing but now I’m wondering why I didn’t stick with my 007 games and time splitters 😂 also speaking of 007 games could you maybe do one of Nightfire!?

[@TheScrubmuffin69]

I fucking love nightfire! Best 007 by far. Also the one before it was pretty good too

[@endless_limes]

Dude I did something similar with the History Channel battle for the Pacific 😂 I thought it was okay back then but now looking back at it - holy crap 😅

[@varsityreviews707]

If you do a video on Nightfire, You MUST play the console version, not the PC version. Trust me

[@metalheaddread3234]

@@varsityreviews707 yes!! I played the gamecube and PlayStation versions and they were always so crisp!

[@ThePineappleKnight932]

Man I grew up play agent under fire. Kicked ass

[@FG-ww8rc]

Shotguns were actually decently common with confederate cavalry because they often had to procure their own weapons

[@slayersarge]

I actually played that first game. The sad part is there is so extremely few Civil War FPS games that I got enjoyment as a kid back then when they came out. I knew the game was bad but it was amusing at least. Weapon Animations were cool and seeing the Colt Rifle a gun infamously being dangerous to shoot to the user was fun to see despite the fact that the gun could have chain fired and blew off your left arm.

[@Cyan_Nightingale]

Yeah. It was refreshing because late 19th century warfare rarely portrayed in videogames

[@comettamer]

It was a very amusing game for being so bad.

[@nuclearfish010]

I love how realistic looking guns shooting plastic bbs is not okay but if it shoots darts its okay

[@X.Y.Z.07]

I played this game on PS2 back in the day... Pretty interesting actually, as most FPS back then were dominated by WW2 era theme... Although yeaahh the control and animation is very clunky. But it's just satisfying to use the single shot musket, with it's terrific accuracy. 😂

[@Web720]

I heard the PS2 versions were better? Idk.

[@SStupendous]

Animation is very good though

[@X.Y.Z.07]

@@Web720 can't compare it, as i forgot how it was...

[@blackfoot8975]

Rifled barrels Enfield were accurate at 600 yards

[@victorvangrimgamming6784]

Thoes history Channel games were my entry into FPS games. back in high school, we had a "field trips" to the "local arcade" (it was a coin op arcade, but their was a room that was for rent for "LAN partys". when you rent the room, you had console options. they also used to "rent" consoles for parties such as a COD WAW and MW painted console, where they looked like ammoboxes, or the vault armor xbox 360 slimcases, or in wooden trunk with monitor and console.) in our civil war unit, during one of these "field trip" we visited the local Civil War battlefield museum. sence most of the class did not want to come on the trip (the trip was 8 students, and 1 teaches). the teacher overhead us talking about COD WAW, and how "history accurate" it was. so the teacher asked us if we wanted to do the long 3+ hour tour, with the 2 mile walk, outside in summer (no, we said no). OR go and try a hybrid learning event in auditoriums of the museum. (the teacher was friends with the owner, and opened hung out at the arcade on weekends, and worked the "LAN room" when the owner was booked solid.) and had the 4 consoles shoe up in steamer trunks. and set them up with the Civil War history Channel games. we took turns playing it, and it was great fun. we did something simular in the WW2 unit, where we visited a "retired ww2 base" we visited an old military base, where they had a "vintage aviation show" and spoke with reenactment group who had vehicles, equipment all the guns were airsoft guns, and had a "qualification course" where we shot targets with airsoft as 15 yards. and the arcade had copies of history channel world war 2 games, but "oops" the wrong game was inside. inside was Call of Duty World at War. well, we played cod, shot airguns and had a blast. and in the "80s - 90s unit" when we learned about the end of the cold war, the video game crash, rise of the microprocessor, the oil crisis, the gulf War, and outher subjects, we visited that arcade for "field trips" and got to play games from that decade to get a "feel" for the decade.

[@_Dat_Edgy_Boi_]

That arcade sounds so fucking cool

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Best story ever.

[@miatalife94]

History class was fucking dope lol

[@JS-gc7kf]

*DON'T FORGET ME*

[@StellarYankee]

“It’s so hard to die in this game” 8 year old me in 2008: “Is it possible to learn this power?”

[@finchborat]

That was me during 2007 when I was 14, later turned 15.

[@toddhoward1133]

I'm 26 and I originally found your Airsoft channel when I was 13. The nerf guns are pretty sick. Hope you gain some traction on that channel again.

[@brandonwooldridge1877]

Sounds like Mike Rowe narrated this game. He was a regular on the History channel back then, when the History channel was actually about history.

[@brawler5760]

Why does he sound like a text-to-speech robot?

[@brandonwooldridge1877]

@@brawler5760 probably didn’t get paid enough to care.

[@brawler5760]

@@brandonwooldridge1877 No he legit sounds like a text to speech robot, especially with those weird pauses and starts and whatnot. Sounds more like the editing team was being lazy.

[@brandonwooldridge1877]

@@brawler5760 well it is cauldron, they aren’t exactly known for quality

[@phyisck5235]

i forgot who actually narrated it but its the same dude who used to narrate every civil war documentary from the 90s and early 2000s

[@matthewknight5926]

I find it funny how the most emotional part of the whole game is just that one guy saying “Don’t Forget me”. On the one hand, it’s a genuinely sad thing to have someone die in front of you and all he says before he fades into History is “don’t forget me”…. On the other hand man sounds like he’s dying because he’s bored

[@TheLaLeeee]

There are so few games about the civil war, especially shooters. That alone already makes these games interesting imo.

[@slice2219]

I honestly have a soft spot for the second game. I played it a lot when I was a teen because I was big into historical shooters. Yeah it’s not the greatest game but I love all the historical weapons you don’t get in other games.

[@Bubbleskittymaster]

this game pisses me off as a gamer that wants a fun historical shooter and pisses my off as a history buff.

[@Born2kill2891]

As a kid I was a HUGE history nerd and played all of the History Channel games as a result Rose-tinted glasses can't save these trainwrecks of games lol

[@kainhall]

ya....after playing these (the civil war and WW2 pacific) games........ i actually got pissed off . i was pissed my dad spent money he really didnt have to buy me these PISS POOR games that was the day when my inner child died.... and i became an old, bitter, doubting adult

[@briankeane9981]

Nah bro I'm still sucking the copium for the original civil war

[@Bulwarkbarnacle99]

Same man I grew up on the things the don't forget me scene. Brought back so many memories lmao

[@Nick_4545]

I remember loving this game as a kid and seeing this video I don’t understand how or why i played this so much 😂

[@tannerheekin9605]

Growing up I remember loving these games, one thing good I will say about the game is I love the letters in the loading screens before each mission. It was very immersive and interesting as a kid!

[@gp9850]

I played these as a kid, I just loved history and thought it was cool to see a different war. Looking back, especially with this video, I don't know how I got so much fun out of them.

[@I_horde_dogs]

"Don't Forget Me" had me dying

[@pandastical9205]

Honestly I’d love to see more Victorian based FPS games. Like that may sound dumb but a game on the Spanish American war would be so dope

[@burnyburnoutze2nd]

Are you going to cover the forgotten game Cauldron also worked on called "Jurassic: The Hunted"? Hilariously bad; they literally recycled every gun in the game from all their previous games, including these ones.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

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[@DeathMetalThrasher]

Kinda wish we get a good polished Civil war game today. Battlefield pulled off a WWI game and I think a great civil war fps is possible. It's not going to be historically accurate weapon choices-wise, but it can be made to be fun.

[@BastosFC2]

That first game has surprisingly good reload animations

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Honestly, I played the first civil war game in this video, to me it didn't really feel boring or anything but that was before I tried playing Call of Juarez and RQed it because trying to aim that fucking cannon during the civil war section pissed me off so much because of how unplayable that section felt with a controller.

[@jimcrow582]

Yeah, Confederate battle flag was portraited here as official state flag of Confederate States of America...

[@wolfovodin7193]

Honestly I loved the first civil war as a kid and didn’t see anything wrong with it then. Super nostalgic

[@TheSpacey52]

10:47 Indestructible tents, apparently lost technology

[@foongus2462]

Loved these games as a kid. Some of my first on the 360 actually. Got them out of the bargain bin at gamestop

[@ATOMICWANTON]

This reminds me of the deadliest warrior game. It was charmingly awful and I absolutely loved playing it with friends growing up.

[@SergioHdez]

You should review Unit 13 for the Vita, not enough people know about that one

[@kilsya1392]

Definitely love the nerf idea as I've been getting into the aftermarket modded nerf guns myself

[@Timberwolftrass]

it's funny you said "this is like school" when you showed the cutscene, 'cause the narrator of the cutscenes sounds just like Principal Skinner from the fucking Simpsons XD

[@hieunguyenrileygekko]

solid content as always i know you dont like zombie but i think you should do a video about Land of the Dead the fps

[@niccolomiglio6996]

"Developers" is too much: "Culprits" is a better term for them.

[@SStupendous]

And an insulting one. For 2006, these animations for reloads etc. are really good...

[@niccolomiglio6996]

@@SStupendous the animations are nice, but that's it: nothing else is too incredible. Quite the opposite , to be honest.

[@SStupendous]

@@niccolomiglio6996 Yeah, that's correct. Don't need to be slandering people over a decade and a half later though.

[@niccolomiglio6996]

@@SStupendous wish I could have done that sooner then ahahhahah

[@SStupendous]

@@niccolomiglio6996 yeah lol

[@scaredstar9127]

This is a fever dream for me as i played this when i was super young, pretty sure i frostwired or limewired it after my dad showed me how to torrent, avoid the porn ads and scam links while i was just 12 and had a great time playing this game. But seeing the gameplay makes me question how i enjoyed it lol On a side note if you enjoy games with old weapons like that try hunt:showdown

[@robertorellana103]

I played this game and I always remembered the “don’t forget me guy” 😂

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

I remembered playing these as a kid and noticed how inaccurate the guns were for the period which is funny for a game produced by the History Channel but its nothing to how the History Channel (yes some of these did exist at the time but they are prototypes or are limited to a handful.) would later become the Pseudo History Channel and Pawn men and Swamp people.

[@walkerj.7895]

I was a huge civil war buff as a kid and played this game quite a bit. I was always disappointed that a better company like dice or treyarch didn’t make a fps set during the civil war.

[@joylocksgamesandstuff]

If you think the Cauldron Civil War games were bad, you should see the Gods & Generals licensed game that was made on the No One Lives Forever 2 engine. It makes the Cauldron games look... well, certainly not good, but at least mediocre.

[@moser502]

your willingness to play games this awful for us deservers far more credit

[@teh_killa]

@JarekTheGamingDragon fun fact: Civil War: Nation Divided supposed to look much better than on video. For example, trees must have some actual foliage on it (most of the models with transparency are missing). But due to awful coding it won't run as intended on anything except the era-appropriate hardware and OS (WinXP) even WITH patch for modern systems.

[@BallinLikeMike23]

The air soft videos used to go so hard. Used to always watch your gbb pistol reviews

[@JodyParsons]

I remembered his old spas12 video

[@roninevans6795]

I had the first game when I was a little kid. I finished the whole game and the few things I remember was the officer inspiring me, people yelling "MINE!" when they die, the guy in the trench who calls you "son" (my sister yelled "IS THAT YOUR DAD???") The level where you have a knife and cut the spy balloon away, the level where you're an officer and you have the saber, the level where you start by sniping on the ridge and use the gatling gun at the end (I remember I loved shooting the trees trying to break all the preassigned branches that would break) and that's basically it...

[@okayjsun]

wait... you're jarek the jarek that made the airsoft vids me and my brother used to watch as kids. I knew you were familiar. and now I've been watching your gaming channel for the past year without noticing that. wild.

[@IceNinja2007]

Was that Mike Rowe doing the cutscene audio?

[@GarkKahn]

5:18 Come here and tell me right into my face that the phrase didn't worked You still remember that man

[@InsanityPrevails]

Bolt action Sniper got me interested in the channel but you haven't uploaded it yet QwQ Subbed with notifications on though, can't wait until it's there ^w^ Unless it is and I'm just a dumb dumb ;w;

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

I've recorded footage of it but not edited the review, yet. I'm posting one video a week and have A LOT of blasters so I'll have content for months.

[@InsanityPrevails]

@@Jarekthegamingdragon Thank you so much for replying and letting me know! Honestly, you've replied to me a few times before, not sure if it's always been on this account of mine, and you've always been extremely nice, so thank you very much for that Jarek ^-^ You're awesome. ❤️

[@ccramit]

I remember playing one of these civil war games and getting stuck in a level that wouldn't end. I finished all objectives and there must have been a glitch or something because the level just would not end.

[@benkilla]

0:20 was NOT expecting Ts2 main menu theme here

[@kabob0077]

1:42 One, that's literally just a Cyclone from Perfect Dark if it loaded from the back. And two, have you heard of that one Nerf Sniper Rifle that can punch through fabrics?

[@LoveFactorySweatShop]

Spunkgargleweewee HERE I COME! (added on gamefly queue)

[@Thatoneguy-sq6re]

Man I love these games they cover an era that you barely see covered in video games especially FPS games

[@victoriaevelyn3953]

Shit as these history games are these and the world war 2 game I can see alot of mod potential ie redo a much better campaign redo AI becuase there is nothing else like it it just needs someone who knows more than me to make it happen

[@TheStapleGunKid]

Double Barreled shotguns were commonly used by cavalry troopers in the civil war.

[@bobgunter9608]

Oh they didn’t even get the guy reading the text sound like Ken Burns that would’ve made it a bit more fun

[@sdivine13]

That guy during the cutscenes used to read all of the history channels exposition pieces.

[@zombiehalo9588]

So I actually have the civil war secret missions game on the PS2 and when I was probably in 4th grade it was one of my favorite games because of being interested in American history

[@Vermilleno]

Yo so you never made that video on Secret Service? Good, I don't know how you'd do that.

[@SeshanTM]

Oh god the voice acting is soo much worse than stalker even though this is a big budget game made in America

[@Sedan57Chevy]

Bland and unpolished, but my biggest complaint with the original was that it was just too short. Still, I enjoyed playing it new on my ps2, along with the older ww2 MoH and CoD titles. I'd love to see more SP FPS games with unique settings on consoles these days, but the focus on MP and live service means it'll probably never happen.

[@endless_limes]

It'd be so awesome if there was better games set in this time period. I'm from Sweden so i don't know too much about the American Civil War, but I'd love to know more since I'm really into history. And sometimes video games can be good starting points to get you interested in that particular subject. Too bad none of these games managed that

[@Calvin_Coolage]

There is the game War of Rights, but it's a multiplayer only thing. There's also Darkest Days but does that really count as Civil War if you gun down the enemy with future guns?

[@endless_limes]

@@Calvin_Coolage Oh yeah Darkest Days is a classic. I guess it semi counts?

[@baggedcorn9694]

Is that the timesplitters menu music in the background?

[@JediArgento]

I played the first Civil War game. I have a little... "affection"? Actually the pretty close to "affection", yes affection between quotation. I don't like much that game neither find them catastrophic. I liked the weapons despite the reload animations are too long, but in general is a wasted potential fest.

[@JBWFILMS]

These were actually my first FPS games ever 😂

[@fdfd4739]

Just a suggestion of a franchise to maybe look over. Mercenaries was a childhood favorite of mine, and I played the hell out of the first game. The second game came out in 2008 on both the ps2/xbox and ps3/360 and they were two completely different games. I played the old gen for the longest time and still enjoyed it, and eventually the newest one. It's one of my favorite open world destruction shooters and it's a shame that Pandemic Studios was axed by EA along with so many good IPs. They had a small demo of a third game but it never went anywhere.

[@musicalDrebin]

never played the second game, but i did play the first one a lot as a kid. gotta say, i remember enjoying it quite a bit. i was, and still am, a pretty big history nerd, so playing that and listening to the narrator was pretty interesting to me. kinda spawned my interest in the period

[@DanielFuellengrabenComedy]

New to your channel, props for using the time splitters 2 theme!

[@redbullninja11]

I remember in elementary school always seeing these on the shelves of GameStop and being very interested in them but never played them

[@AReservoirDog]

Civil war was the war that got me interested in history as a kid, so I had to have a game about it. my mom bought me secret missions. i remember being a stupid kid and loving it, but holy shit is it way more boring than I remember. The mission where you capture the gatling gun is the only one that stands out, and the last one where you come in on the ironclad.

[@tangyorange6509]

Me and my dad LOVED these games

[@METALWULF]

Lmao do the Gods and Generals FPS next

[@followerofeir]

Loved these games as a kid with limited access to shooters. Went back to play them later, was very underwhelmed 😂

[@leonardomafrareina7634]

I actually enjoyed playing it on my PS2.

[@lololopez503]

Yo the secondary channel idea looks good man. Would love to see this resurgence of high quality dart guns, but please specify where did you get them from because there's like a thousand of them and I don't know where to buy them XD

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Read the video information on those videos. I even state where you can buy them so I don't get that question spammed at me.

[@brawler5760]

A common thing I keep seeing is that every game Cauldron has made has the tendency to break when they run above 60 fps. Why?

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Tying physics to frame rate.

[@LovReika]

I played one of these civil war games as a kid, it was one of my favorites

[@TalentedTacoTrex]

So happy you're finally covering these games. They're so dumb, janky, and not particularly good but I love them anyways

[@matttorres5510]

I remember as a lad I was getting bored of the games I was playing so I dusted the secret missions of and popped it in and it was not the best game but I got to shoot stuff so I was satisfied for like a couple hours. Boredom makes everything better

[@D_M_U]

I used to watch your airsoft channel what feels like ages ago. I'm glad to see you're still making videos!

[@Praetorian8814]

I always found it a weird aspect that every single mission is played by a completely different soldier. I mean, I get that some of these big battles were spaced out over years sometimes but so much for immersion and story telling.. Imagine if in CoD World at War, you played as a completely different private after each mission. Its too bad they couldn't give a quick post-mission voiceover telling you what happened to Pvt. Jeremy Burnet, or Pvt. Jim O'Neil, or whoever. Did he die in a bayonet charge, did he get wounded in action? Did he attempt to desert and get executed?

[@Matt-md5yt]

You covering the non-Nerf branded things does sound neat. The community of that hobby calls them blasters but hey toy Guns they are. Anyways glad you covered this my friend

[@Dremeli]

They would have been decent games if the AI was much better. They are more like interactive civil war lessons than games.

[@Samuraikush420]

Bruh I made my dad buy this for me when I was like 12 for 50 bucks, best it like the first day, rough stuff.

[@Mezurashii5]

Legit question about the nerf guns: what do you ~do~ with them? Is it just a case of collecting neat things?

[@homefront1999]

Back in 5th grade. We did stuff about Civil War and I got obsessed with Civil War stuff. Like really obsessed. My aunt who lived about 30-minutes away from Gettysburg went there just for me and got me souvenirs. I remember getting a Union and Confederate shirt. But I eventually got these two games as a kid. I played them a ton for some reason. I think even back then I realized how bad t hey were. but just the fact they're Civil War kept me interested. I rebought them for the 360 a year or two ago and replayed them. Definitely did not live up to my memories. Having to hear the same exact voice lines over and over again drove me crazy.

[@THE_NEW_CRUSADER]

I have a Union Sabre and Union musket

[@WillieCuz]

Personally I enjoyed the shit outta this game as a kid lmao

[@ChaseMC215]

I'd rather play Delta Force: Black Hawk Down than these games.

[@kainhall]

6:00 LOL, they tried to copy COD1!!! . COD1 had journal entries for each levels loading screen except... it was actually interesting to read....... and not basic B AF . some had real life documents and weapons in the background..... like EVERYTHING the US paratroopers were equipped with or mission planning / intel reports that would get crossed out and "edited" as the mission went on (British levels IIRC) . . . these games REALLY showed everyone what the history channel had become..... (or was JUST starting to become) even the REALLY old documentaries were filled with lies and propaganda (yes, even "Time Watch") . but compared to whats on history channel in the last 10 years...... ya, this game is actually SUPER realistic

[@ethanlaborde]

I had the first game on PS2 as a kid. Shame it's so bad, since I think a Civil War FPS has a lot of potential.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

At least these games aren't spunkgargleweewee's! 😂

[@Railhog2102]

The Civil War isn't a popular setting for video games, The weapons used and tactics that defined that era are old and outdated nobody wants single round muskets or using just horses to get around although railroads were in use at that time

[@jmbent77]

The narrative should have been presented better. Scrolling text with a single albumen image is boring.

[@bloodrunsclear]

I think the voice over is literally text-to-speech

[@L3THALXFOX]

For the civil war those guns were pretty accurate