Anand ranganathan vs Salvatore babones | Decoding the democracy rankings | Arth-2023

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this thought-provoking panel on ‘Decoding The Democracy Rankings’, Salvatore Babones and Anand Ranganathan come together to discuss the concept of democracy and its ranking systems. The speakers delve into a critical analysis of where India stands as a democratic state. This panel is a must-watch for anyone interested in exploring the nuances of democracy and its ranking systems and understanding the current state of democracy in India.
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@sureshkpuppala
@sureshkpuppala Жыл бұрын
Ay ay Ranga Sir, I concur. Democracy rating - 5 (with respect to idea of democracy we dream) And it's a Banana republic, Nupur Sharma goes into hiding 6 people cut off heads, Zubair serial offender is hail and happy in public, Akabaruddin Owaisi roams free. Yet we are called Hindu fascists and Muslims victims.
@mearjun88
@mearjun88 Жыл бұрын
It still is a democracy with a bad law and order. Will people vote out BJP for it? No because they don’t have an option. But theoretically they could if someone was to take that plank.
@GRIMRAJ
@GRIMRAJ Жыл бұрын
​@@mearjun88 PPL had no option for Indira gandhi too then? She was so ineligible that to hold pm post had to take up rajya sabha membership
@KarthikKesiraju
@KarthikKesiraju Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked when he said Shekhar Gupta, karan, Rajiv as his gurus 😀, probably he is being sarcastic may be
@AnAn-yn7yd
@AnAn-yn7yd Жыл бұрын
Babones is not wrong. They demonstrate how competitive and free wheeling Indian democracy is. And how Indians have more free speech and freedom than Indians think. Babones is rating Indian democracy, not other aspects of India.
@kambojexpress6230
@kambojexpress6230 Жыл бұрын
bhai ye mc in gadaro ko hi guru manege jo India ko hate karte hai Hindus ko hate karte hia ye sale left wale bahut ghatia aur neech hia
@vaishnavsahil
@vaishnavsahil Жыл бұрын
​@@AnAn-yn7yd but those Journalist are Fake news Paddler and they have spreaded Anti Hindu remarks so many times
@dancingnachos3634
@dancingnachos3634 Жыл бұрын
We all live in hope lol
@RoshanKumar5-d
@RoshanKumar5-d Жыл бұрын
What's your insta?
@drsaikamal
@drsaikamal Жыл бұрын
😁😁😀😀😀 Ranga sir is the guru to unmask hypocrites.
@___-cx6bw
@___-cx6bw Жыл бұрын
Anand is angry! Being a hindu Indian who is let down by all political parties for their orientation towards Islamists/jihadis while making policies for Indians is painful!
@ravivaid1260
@ravivaid1260 Жыл бұрын
Anand sir....always rocks...🤟
@shiva4ever
@shiva4ever Жыл бұрын
I think that Babones's definition of democracy is limited to technicalities and processes, whereas Ranganathan's concerns are about the functioning and results of democracy. This is why the latter is alarmed by the unchecked prejudices of the Supreme Court while the former feels that since the electoral process is fine there is no need to look at anything else.
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 Жыл бұрын
The question at hand is the flawed ranking of India as a democracy.
@shiva4ever
@shiva4ever Жыл бұрын
@@seshanm54 ranking by institutions of vested interests.
@maheshviswakarma3043
@maheshviswakarma3043 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful Anand Ranganathan.🎉
@hareramv
@hareramv Жыл бұрын
Shekhar Gupta is also my guru. I regularly read him. Whatever he justifies, I readily know it is wrong. He saves me lot of time and energy. Prof Babonese is a genius student of terrible teachers. Kudos to Prof. Babonese. Ranga sir, as usual, makes himself un-ambiguously clear.
@SandeepKulshrestha
@SandeepKulshrestha Жыл бұрын
Print gives a great deal of nice news I guess.
@revashid4193
@revashid4193 Жыл бұрын
True😂
@pankajbharmoria
@pankajbharmoria Жыл бұрын
I think the Prof. Ranganathan was very interruptive during the discussion. Although I agree with his argument that how can he have Shekhar Gupta, Rajdeep Sardesai and Karan Thaper as his Gurus. The most vicious and outright liars journalists INDIA has ever seen.
@shiva4ever
@shiva4ever Жыл бұрын
I think that SB was saying this tongue in cheek for the EDUCATION he received from them. It's unfortunate that AR did not catch it and went on bulldozing, and that SB never clarified his view.
@sharvanverma1097
@sharvanverma1097 Жыл бұрын
Prof Ranganathan thought he was on Times Now Debate. Essence of Arth is lost
@rajeevratnalikar1132
@rajeevratnalikar1132 Жыл бұрын
लुक अलाइक एस नेहरू ड्रेस !!!!????
@ArunPaji
@ArunPaji Жыл бұрын
@@stuv_wx I don’t think there are any serious journalists.
@vinod1147
@vinod1147 Жыл бұрын
Shekhar Gupta is absolutely great with his CTC in Print, however, it is only so because I know if what I have to listen to or what I have to let go/ discard/trash. He is very cunning and vicious while peddling false and poisonous narratives in a very subtle way. If you are unaware of his tactics then mind you, you are played and indoctrinated...
@capt.rajivkumar352
@capt.rajivkumar352 Жыл бұрын
Anand Ranganathan you are simply great
@vinaymehta8200
@vinaymehta8200 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant I may add
@jinks3669
@jinks3669 Жыл бұрын
Anand ji is phenomenal .
@anvivek
@anvivek Жыл бұрын
Love to see ‘ಅ' on the center of the stage❤️
@Indian-dc6xr
@Indian-dc6xr Жыл бұрын
ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರಿಗೆ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆಯ ವಿಷಯ❤
@sandeepsaxena8266
@sandeepsaxena8266 Жыл бұрын
I love you both for what you do in relation to our nation. I really respect the calmness of babones inspite of Ranganathan's interruptions and not letting him speak. I think babones has walked a straight line and made his points correctly with logic and rationale. Ranganathan tried to hold him responsible for which he's not. But anyways it was an interesting intelligent discussion
@caarvaak
@caarvaak Жыл бұрын
Shekhar Gupta, Rajdeep Sardesai and Karan Thapar? 😊 We have had enough of the professor!
@manojchari7732
@manojchari7732 Жыл бұрын
Professor?I would rather call them professional manipulators .
@IndicThoughts8
@IndicThoughts8 Жыл бұрын
Ranga sir got someone equivalent to to debate with. 😛😝😜🤝👍🙏
@cpatil-vh5bw
@cpatil-vh5bw Жыл бұрын
Anand ❤❤❤❤
@lopa4899
@lopa4899 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Salvatore Babones is doing what western world is doing, using their own yardstick to measure India's democracy. Is what is happening in America really democracy??
@theyoungwolf4381
@theyoungwolf4381 Жыл бұрын
Why would he use yours?? Do you use Muslim's measures to evaluate Democracy or your measures
@amlaanjthengal852
@amlaanjthengal852 Жыл бұрын
These Western Supremacist themselves place their Indian puppets in various fields and then they say "we don't know anything, we are just echoing what Indian intellectuals are telling. And so Indian intellectuals are anti India not us..." What a B S.
@samyeharshel
@samyeharshel Жыл бұрын
@@theyoungwolf4381 Actually we do
@yashchauhan7448
@yashchauhan7448 Жыл бұрын
@@samyeharshel how ?
@rd_HIND
@rd_HIND Жыл бұрын
On this democracy point , Dr Ranganathan , Prof Salvatore has gotten it right.
@kuralovien5524
@kuralovien5524 Жыл бұрын
Actually he didn't, J&K was a democratic state when pandits got killed, and if govt could protect the very nature of the country and constitution by dissolving the democratically voted parties in India which are also allowed by indian constitution may sound undemocratic to him but if it's saves lives and saves the core of the constitutional definition of India, woudn't it be justifiable? He thinks freedom of speech is subjective to India but wants the same democratic way in India as it is in US and Australia. And the democratic way to even let the ruling parties pass the right policies in the centre to save the democracy is an huge hurdle the courts would only get more inefficient once politics is mixed in
@Mevlog143
@Mevlog143 Жыл бұрын
I am a Engineer by education but a History Teacher in a school by a profession. After listening to people like Anand Ranganathan, Sai Deepak, Vikram Sampath and Rajiv Malhotra, I have a question and a suggestion to my extend. 1. Why no public debate on school textbook with people of right and left? 2. Why can't NCERT come up with a internal choice inside the book with two set of chapters. I.e. one textbook having students/teachers option to select either Delhi Sultane or Bharatiya Kingdoms? (Something That NCERT follows with class 9 & 10 curriculum even today. Interternal choice of chapters.) Kindly someone educate me on this. Thank you.
@vm667
@vm667 Жыл бұрын
brilliant clarity on prof babones' end... till the people don't want those issues resolved, they won't. till then they will be pet peeves... at the altar of free logic.
@sanjayshah4372
@sanjayshah4372 Жыл бұрын
I like Anand Ranganathan, but I wish he would not keep interrupting Salvatore Babones.............Babones is very data centred and has intelligence based explanation of Democracy...... and he needs to complete his explanations. Interrupting others is such a rude behaviour that a lot of Indians do, without realising how rude it is
@kuralovien5524
@kuralovien5524 Жыл бұрын
The one thing I've noticed is how this guy keeps comparing democracy of india with US and Australia but the second we take freedom of speech his standards change,,, but obviously US and Australia doesn't face the same impact due to Islamic terrorism as much as in India does, when when India does sum that's undemocratic it's democratic by indian standards because these policies are making sure that it doesn't end up like Pakistan.
@61sukanya
@61sukanya Жыл бұрын
Anand Ranganathan is just too knowledgeable.
@shiva4ever
@shiva4ever Жыл бұрын
How on EARTH can Babones calmly categorise the arrests by manata as 'sensible'??????
@arational9920
@arational9920 Жыл бұрын
We have to understand that being a Professor Salvator might be good in understanding the figures and datas and he criticised the surveys, which are maligning India's reputation. But he doesn't understand the real problems and criticalities of India.
@atulkothari1999
@atulkothari1999 Жыл бұрын
Professor Babones Atire is superb 👍🏻👍🏻 And it’s always great enjoyment to hear this man who always relies on facts. Mr. Ranganathan speechs are cherished as well.
@AT-gk7ib
@AT-gk7ib Жыл бұрын
First time I felt Anand was actually not letting Professor speak and also given his usual appearances on TV debates where there is always one interrupting the other. Ranga should have allowed Prof Babones to speak more.
@kambojexpress6230
@kambojexpress6230 Жыл бұрын
saru sulle porksitan hcala ja kute e
@Salmonellatyphi
@Salmonellatyphi Жыл бұрын
No need
@balasubramaniansanjeevi3046
@balasubramaniansanjeevi3046 Жыл бұрын
The Muddle in Anand Ranganathan's brain is beautifully brought out by the Professor. Bravo.
@funkyou2443
@funkyou2443 Жыл бұрын
I get that Ranga is just having some fun. But I would have loved Prof being asked more rigorous questions on his understanding.
@rajeshjaiswal9038
@rajeshjaiswal9038 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Anand Sir☺️😊👍👌💐
@rajappashama6247
@rajappashama6247 Жыл бұрын
Babones is right about process which is what democracy is; policy is shaped by democracy and that is ALL he is saying to us. An elected Court is a good point and a collegium is less representative is true. Freezing of Reapportionments is a wonderful point.
@geethar3573
@geethar3573 Жыл бұрын
Foreigners need not teach us and define us. If they r really generous and large hearted let them accommodate all the Muslims india on their soil. Let them give them all privileges like wakf several others which they r enjoying inspite of carrying out Kashmir genocides from thousand years here on daily basis.
@valmikivaani
@valmikivaani Жыл бұрын
Its wrong to call India Hindu Majority, its a Dhimmi Majority state, the divide is a clear 70-30, hence Dr Babones is right, 70% of Hindus who are Dhimmis don't mind the exile of Kashmiri Pandits, they don't mind several other things that are about dignity of a community, but they vote, and that is democracy
@thaneswarkalita9679
@thaneswarkalita9679 Жыл бұрын
India is a country of thousands diversive views, religious beliefs and faith, even though we are mor Democrats than any other countries in the world
@rohitsaxena3373
@rohitsaxena3373 Жыл бұрын
While Anand is correct in his assessment, Salvatore (being an outsider) doesn't know the ground realities so much.. But.. Salvatore's points are very very clear.. he is very clear in his head which I think we are not able to appreciate. I must say though, that for the first time - Anand seems to be lacking confidence and gravity of points.. he constantly interrupting Salvatore possibly due to a realization that his arguments lack weight when compared to the clarity coming from Salvatore's side..
@illogically_logical_
@illogically_logical_ Жыл бұрын
I agree with Salvatore, democracy is different for different countries, what freedom of speech is in the USA, can be different in India and it's an example why democracy ranking is meaningless.
@kuralovien5524
@kuralovien5524 Жыл бұрын
Obviously the one thing he failed to ask is if Salvatore thinks freedom of speech is subjective in India and there's nothing wrong with that , what makes him think the democratic way of running a country should be the same as it is in US or Australia. And if democracy cannot save the pandits of Kashmir on time due to heavy bureaucracy, where even a ruling party with right policies cannot be implemented without proving majority in the parliament whereby regional parties are willing to throw the pandits of Kashmir under the bus for muslim appeasement in their own states, what good is democracy to a country where the majority gets persecuted by the minority. And if he thinks the inabilities or issues of a country is due to bad policies, how exactly did democracy help India in 1946 when the elections decided the national borders whereby majority of muslims voted in support of it, so is it just the policies that are to be blamed here? Not the people who vote for it? And the very basic of democracy itself given J&K was a democratic state when pandits got killed and dissolving democracy there may sound undemocratic but is an essential step to preserve the very nature of the nation thus preserving democracy thereby also justifiable...
@14thghost2
@14thghost2 Жыл бұрын
My observation- Salvatore is being extremely careful and neutral while Anand is clear where he stands.
@sampadalele1249
@sampadalele1249 Жыл бұрын
31.30 क्या बात ! आनंदश्री का अभिनंदन !
@peacek6909
@peacek6909 Жыл бұрын
Mr.. Babones, you look great in Indian clothes.👍👍
@MVJ99
@MVJ99 Жыл бұрын
all he needed to ask is if Christians could be exterminates from a state and not get a justice in America. our democracy needs to take care more conplex religious contradictions than America. cant even compare. Our democracy's issues need much higher standards. so does Mr Anand on his logic...sorry but that's what I felt. its too aggressive to be taken seriously.
@prakashvusvadudevan6204
@prakashvusvadudevan6204 Жыл бұрын
Western in Indian Attire Indian in western Attire!!!
@whaddoiknow6519
@whaddoiknow6519 Жыл бұрын
1. Love the crowd shots. Always interesting to see how many people are surgically attached to their phones. 2. Ranganathan is not really interested in listening to what Babones has to say.
@utpaalbadwaik7638
@utpaalbadwaik7638 Жыл бұрын
For a change Dr. Anand was a little impatient and interruptive and too stubborn today....surprising! Hats off to Mr. Babones for being soo patient and kind! Audience couldn't understand and in a hurry raised hand for Dr. Anand just because he is Indian and mostly RIGHT!😅....Anand ji just couldn't understand the essence of babones point which he actually put across very well!
@amardatta4471
@amardatta4471 Жыл бұрын
Look at the attire of two individuals - one who claims to be an Indian is wearing Whiteman's dress where the Whiteman is wearing a pure Indian attire. It's hard for Indians to get rid of slavery mentality. It's so deep rooted even for Anand Ranganathan it is difficult.
@Pork393
@Pork393 Жыл бұрын
Anand u didn't get the pun behind Prof Babones mentioning his Gurus! He meant these "gurus" he mentioned, opened his eyes and thats why he is giving to Indian democracy 10/10 whereas his gurus democracy doesn't exist in India!
@rajappashama6247
@rajappashama6247 Жыл бұрын
Good point on election and transfer of power. 8points for free n fair sounds like fair criteria violence, vote buying, electoral authority are metrics wout speaking of competition
@PrashanthJi
@PrashanthJi Жыл бұрын
Anand Ji, you made me to feel irritated. Salvatore is really an unbiased gentleman. I almost saw all of his debates for couple of months. He is highly constructive and rational. You did not even let him talk. If i were Salvatore I would walk out or kept mum for the entire 40 minutes. Anand, and Arnab, you both are good when you have a controlling authority! Furthermore, you wanted to get the praise from majority when you made those immature and irrational kind of arguments about India as a Banana Republic. In my opinion, it's a stupid argument to assert that Indian is a Banana republic. As Mr. Babones says, compare other democracies who have same per capita GDP and you will realize that India stands very high in this category. Pls make your ears big when you sit for a debate. I tell you all these because, this is the first time you made me to feel irritated. I am your fan for about 8-10 years and do not let me to lose the interest in you by doing what did you do today. Arnab did it the day he established Republic TV. By the way, I loved and watched 100s of times when you trolled Manishankar Iyer in a debate that too in front of him.
@TheB657
@TheB657 Жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@amardhillon2414
@amardhillon2414 Жыл бұрын
Bhai you’re right.. now Tyagi will have some wise remark. Right Tyagi..
@achalshrikhande5047
@achalshrikhande5047 Жыл бұрын
In his opening statement, he defined democracy and later on he talked about Rajdeep and Karan Thapar being his gurus there itself he defied his own opinion & logic. He is one of those liberals who will always believe in if and buts has no exact opinion.
@raghavnamasivayam8706
@raghavnamasivayam8706 Жыл бұрын
​@@achalshrikhande5047 well who is that
@jaibharat8932
@jaibharat8932 Жыл бұрын
Anand can't make nuanced arguments and sounds pedagogical and playing to the crowd types. He needs to be more balanced insightful than simply going by rhetorical passion.
@nitovatorsnitj
@nitovatorsnitj Жыл бұрын
I kind of respect Salvatore Babones, his opinion is actually unbiased and objective, and is not slave of any ideological umbrella!!
@dominicalphine7764
@dominicalphine7764 Жыл бұрын
👍
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 Жыл бұрын
The topic was "DECODING THE DEMOCRACY RANKINGS". So the sequence should have been a) What IS Democracy in the first place? b) What are the parameters on the basis of which the ranking is done? c) What parameters should be included, excluded or modified to arrive at a fairer ranking? d) How have the flaws in the current system of ranking placed, India at a lowly Rank 126?
@peteskom4372
@peteskom4372 Жыл бұрын
Why are these videos hard to search
@chris89ize
@chris89ize Жыл бұрын
Probably shadow banned because they talk sense and that goes against the agenda
@indianvoice8684
@indianvoice8684 Жыл бұрын
Arth KZbin channel 👍
@hemkeshyeole4630
@hemkeshyeole4630 Жыл бұрын
Yess
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 Жыл бұрын
All factual matters concerning Indian democracy a) Inadequacies in our Constitution b) The collegium system of appointment of judges c) Freedom of speech issues d) The paradoxical biases against the majority Hindu community etc...should have come up thereafter...
@dancingnachos3634
@dancingnachos3634 Жыл бұрын
Damn Dr Ranganathan is rather sarcastic. I like!!
@sivatata6970
@sivatata6970 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no one says that democracy is from Bhaarat as a part of its ancient civilization. Will Durant in his book says Bhaarat gave the Zero, Democracy, etc.
@samb23692
@samb23692 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I found Anand to be less than awesome. He did make lot of really silly arguments which felt like he was being devil's advocate.
@tamberlame27
@tamberlame27 Жыл бұрын
I think because Anand was not being exact
@withmaithili
@withmaithili Жыл бұрын
i hate to see it but i agree with Mr. Salvatore… especially about the meaning of democracy and the nature of freedom of speech of india. since absolute freedom of speech is not right for any country. have you seen the way the american democracy is going towards hell… active school shootings and at the same time 3year old kids getting sex change operations to change their gender
@vinaymehta8200
@vinaymehta8200 Жыл бұрын
The Judges restrict what the public wants and the public or its elected people cannot do anything about it - then democracy in India is compromised due to it having powers within India that can circumvent Indian Democracy THIS (THE SUPREME COURT) DOES LIMIT DEMOCRACY IN INDIA So its a one in my opinion - Indian Supreme Court taking Indian Democracy to the ground
@kitnanaai
@kitnanaai Жыл бұрын
Mr. Ranganathan was obnoxious in constantly not letting the other guy speak.
@sanj-is-here
@sanj-is-here Жыл бұрын
For the first time I felt Ranganathan was not as articulate or accurate and Barbones was more lucid to the point.
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai Жыл бұрын
Checkout democracy rankings by Abhijit chavda for additional information He rips apart these hitjobs
@amarjitgill5650
@amarjitgill5650 Жыл бұрын
same like Saying Modi treats every Indian Equally .
@reddysreddys1395
@reddysreddys1395 Жыл бұрын
Jai sree ram ❤😊
@vaakkaalan
@vaakkaalan Жыл бұрын
Salvatore is very clear on his thoughts and ideas. Anand, this time, didn’t get the core concept and was very interruptive and borderline annoying. Salvatore had a stranglehold on the concept of democracy while Anand was beating around the bush conflating various issues moving away from the core concept of democracy.
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 Жыл бұрын
Anand was very disappointing to say the least. He seemed to make no difference between the general and the particular. Here is where he parts ways with a J.Sai Deepak, for example who has strong views but never veers away from the argument. Anand's heart is in the right place, but he is too excitable and full of himself. In this discussion, where a Prof Babbones is on record to say that he does not question the motives...that his objections are to the methodology employed by the rating agencies, any interviewer should have been content allowing the Prof. to elucidate on that point first and then come to why India's ranking suffers on that account.
@vaakkaalan
@vaakkaalan Жыл бұрын
@@seshanm54 Exactly. Well put.
@geethar3573
@geethar3573 Жыл бұрын
@@vaakkaalan both of u r typical tn fools where sentiment rules reason. Anand is always Anand and so is sai Deepak.
@TheVicdub
@TheVicdub Жыл бұрын
And I smell a sense of inferiority complex from you. Gori chamdi dikhi nahi ban gaye gulaam. Each and every argument given by Ranga sir are marvelous and unmatched ❤
@vaakkaalan
@vaakkaalan Жыл бұрын
@@TheVicdub Well, that’s your view. In this discussion, Salvatore was absolutely spot on and Anand was all over the place. If J Sai Deepak was here discussing democracy with Salvatore, you’d have seen the difference. Sai Deepak is a scholar while Anand is a media debater. Anand is too enamoured with the audience and their applause while Sai Deepak is focused on sculpting every word he says and going to the root of the debate and dismantling the opposite views. So, if you think this is coming from my ‘inferiority complex’ toward ghoras, I present you J Sai Deepak as my go-to man for such topics.
@sushukrish
@sushukrish Жыл бұрын
What does it even mean to hold elections when there is only one party contesting 😂
@mch3644
@mch3644 Жыл бұрын
Democracy is prajakiya People are the ledars, appoint workers of there choise as MLA MP CM PM act.. To work as they say
@yadavkomal
@yadavkomal Жыл бұрын
Professor Babones is a researcher (statistician) and is inherently objective+ analytical owing to years of work in the field. Dr. Anand seems way too swayed by his personal bias and seems to have lost track of the bigger discussion here! Professor seems to come from a more sincere place here than Dr. Anand does. And as someone who's experienced the way of working of the professors from abroad at least in my field- they are very objective and unbiased in their analysis. They'll never quote something out of personal bias or something they didn't first hand observe in their analysis. It has its own respect in the research arena and you should stop pushing another on their lack of bias. He's only mentioning what he observed from those data and has good things to say(if at all you will) to pander to those who want to put words in his mouth. He's just being true to his work! Indians need to stop herding and forcing individuals into submission!
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 Жыл бұрын
You said it🙏
@vishalsoodiima
@vishalsoodiima Жыл бұрын
Prof. Anand I am a fan...but for this debate I give you 5 out of 10 😀...your points are important but not congruent to definition of democracy and ratings...
@1980titu
@1980titu Жыл бұрын
The first pitch to take the audience in awe is to JAISA DESH WAISA VESH .. a great communication strategy by Mr Salvatore He used his non verbal gestures to further his narrative as trained communication fox…! He talks like a planted stooge who talks sweet and holding a knife at back At the end of the day A gora is gora and we Indians always fall for them even if it means Gulami…! We have deep respect and support for Ranga Sir .. a nationalist and an Indian.. Certain a foreigner is coming and teaching us about democracy 😂😂😂 Ranga is peaking or spoken what best for India …!
@vivekpuri3384
@vivekpuri3384 Жыл бұрын
26:29 aa gya paseena goray ko 😂
@lakshala
@lakshala Жыл бұрын
Mono ranting by Ranga. Don't invite a guest, ask a question, and then keep giving your views or speak over him. If someone were to time both speakers, the questioner took 80% time and the guest got 20%. Problem with Ranga is that he likes to hear his own voice and views. He will make a perfect dictator.
@kashgokli2743
@kashgokli2743 Жыл бұрын
Anand was very unprofessional. He did not allow Professor to finish his thoughts.
@nishideeptewari
@nishideeptewari Жыл бұрын
Sorry to see, Salvatore's is struggling to hide his expression and anxiety anger... Nailed it Andandji :)
@classicninetythree
@classicninetythree Жыл бұрын
for an American, democracy means u have the freedom to own gun. how many students have been killed on mass shooting incidents??????? so u need restriction in order to save lives. that's the justification of Mr. Jaishankar's speech
@Tatpunjiya
@Tatpunjiya Жыл бұрын
Babones is right. USA, aus have absolute freedom of speech yet less violence like we have with the restrictions. Says a lot about us as people.
@geethar3573
@geethar3573 Жыл бұрын
Unlike here they don't have Muslim majority who indulge in Kashmir genocide from Kashmir to kanyakumari on a daily basis from more than thousand years.
@karls9879
@karls9879 Жыл бұрын
If the public response doesnt suit him, he changes the democracy ratings from 10/10, 5/10, the very embodiment of entitlement seen in this American professor guy.
@princevegita2006
@princevegita2006 Жыл бұрын
Ranga got schooled hard by the professor. Essentially, Ranga thinks that democracy is this fairly tale land where everything should be perfect. In essence, democracy comes with its shortcomings within its very own design, which he potrays many times to justify India being a banana republic. In fact voting from a sample size of 100 students in front of him is actually 'Banana Republic tactics ;)
@knightatdawndonbynight8432
@knightatdawndonbynight8432 Жыл бұрын
The reasonable restrictions to freedom of speech in India is meant to prevent hate speech and incitement to violence and anarchy that would lead to degeneration of law and order, damage of business envioronment and associate economic activity in a religioculturally, ethnically and liguistically diverse, populous developing country straddled with the reality of its fair share of fault line, that has potential to lquidation and balkanisation of the young and fledgling modern democracy. But Indian politicians on numerous occasions have misused the restrictions meant to used reasonably in certain extreme situations to suppress their criminal wrongdoing, to suppress voices of dissent they think would be detrimental to their electoral prospects, as a tool of intimidation, to buttress their ego and in doing so, they have failed their democratic mandate. Similarly the judiciary have, often out of their individualistic ideological leaning, often out of "we judges know it all and we judges are almighties over our people" sort of arrogance, often out of their personal interest of social climbing and in order to secure future of their children, have denied the victims the rightful justice and have overreached their judicial mandate by wading into the authority of the deocratically ekected representatives, by misappropriating their constitutional safeguards (for example through according the power of appointing judges on judges themselves) that has eroded democracy in some ways in India.
@AnupamDeoArya
@AnupamDeoArya Жыл бұрын
As much as I call Mr. Ranganathan a legend....this debate particularly was not moderated well. It felt Mr. Ranganathan came with a preoccupied agenda....and a bit of humility wd have made this debate a lot better.
@vinaymehta8200
@vinaymehta8200 Жыл бұрын
I thought he made it interesting and if his agenda was to bring out the gurus of this professor - its not an agenda but more of having done his job brilliantly without the Stockholm Syndrome.
@rooh7125
@rooh7125 Жыл бұрын
Prof. Salvatore sounds rational.
@naveenparashar764
@naveenparashar764 Жыл бұрын
But he is using political correct language in a public analysis. This rationality sound like diplomatic
@sushmasagar316
@sushmasagar316 Жыл бұрын
We should not allow a foreigner, any foreigner to acquire so much clout as a media personality in our country. We do not need validation from foreigners. Their opinions about us should not matter. By inviting him to so many forums we are simply saying : AA BAEL HUMEY MAAR. So the bull does his thing.
@mrsiddhu2012
@mrsiddhu2012 Жыл бұрын
Professor Salvatore is brilliant. Anand sir as usual is falling on the prey of rhetoric points. Anand sir should rethink what points he is going to present in what debate. Same 30 Secs points in every topic does not work. Also please learn to give opportunity for others to talk and present their points. Also Anand sir wants to listen his answers to his questions :) I am slowly declining as his fan. By the end he has managed to gain one more enemy of the state, who was putting effort to be neutral.
@adarshkrishnan7941
@adarshkrishnan7941 Жыл бұрын
Salvatore is rather optimistic about democracy Anand is rather cynical But judging by the nature of common Indian man or woman. The Cynic is always at right
@mpadalax
@mpadalax Жыл бұрын
Even Salvatore logic is flawed on 2nd reason when he said NORTH (Minority Muslims) are under represented in Lok Sabha. Actually the problem is for states which followed the 1 Family with 2 or less kids policy (decision good for the Nation) in South India and are represented less. Now compare with UP which has nearly the population of PAKISTAN. I think GDP of state should also be one of the factors for representation along with population.
@coachlife1753
@coachlife1753 Жыл бұрын
Why would I allow a person to decide and talk about my country. Why can't he go and talk in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan etc and talk about democracy??
@devendramishra2026
@devendramishra2026 Жыл бұрын
Twitter handling of Salvatore Babones shown was incorrect
@rajeshjaiswal9038
@rajeshjaiswal9038 Жыл бұрын
Salvatore sounded horrible with cruel biased mindset.Salvatote very cleverly sweetly coated his venom spit with smile, and softness.Devil disguised himself as Salvatore, which was unhidden inspite of Salvatore's good look, bad acting by Devil as Salvatore.
@amitasawant6327
@amitasawant6327 Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely liked each and every argument of Dr. Ranganathan in all his debates, Except this one. This debate is a hard blow of disappointment of his performance. He seems to be totally offtrack with his arguments. And doesn't seem to listen and understand his co-speaker. Mr. Babones is speaking logic and making informed comments.
@sevenseasgamerz5698
@sevenseasgamerz5698 Жыл бұрын
B*A*N*A*N*A REPUBLIC OF INDIA
@shardachoudhary5877
@shardachoudhary5877 Жыл бұрын
Salvotore owned Ananda
@udaysharma3646
@udaysharma3646 Жыл бұрын
I like Prof. Babones. He resembles Nehru. He's attractive, he speaks well, he's a European (all Whites are) in the robe of India. He doesn't offend anyone but his words are sweet poison. He left an impression on all of us. But still I would surely prefer Dr. Anand Rangnathan over him. Because for calming myself Instagram is full of attraction. And I come here for truth.
@balajikandavel
@balajikandavel Жыл бұрын
agree with Salvatore a lot. His arguments are facts vs emotional.
@nishanthm79
@nishanthm79 Жыл бұрын
Anand delivers a KO to Salvatore in a pure democratic way😂😂😂
@sanjayshah4372
@sanjayshah4372 Жыл бұрын
Anand Ranganathan...... your points maybe valid, and indeed they are, BUT as the HOST, please pick up on the (sledge hammer) subtleties of the English language especially when Salvatore Babones said "When do the questions start?" !!!!!!!! Anand Ranganathan you have been on too many Indian TV shows where ALL the panels shout and interrupt each other to make their points and it is now that rude behaviour, at least the constant interrupting, is what you are doing !!! Anand Ranganathan you are great guy, ....I am actually on your side, but please please, please, let QUALITY PEOPLE like Salvatore Babones finish his explanations in full.
@MVJ99
@MVJ99 Жыл бұрын
not impressed by Anand sir...not really in the same level as Salvadore...little less descriptive and adjectival use of langiage would do👍
@ShivendraVerma
@ShivendraVerma Жыл бұрын
Babones writing on democracy is on topic when other index were saying cause modi won there is no democracy in India his paper was on that ascept 😂😂
@vutubeify
@vutubeify Жыл бұрын
At 14:00 Mr Ranganathan says Election commission is independent....ha haaa 🤣🤣🤣🤣what a Joke...Supreme court had to intervene as they felt EC was not impartial having been picked by the Govt..
@KRajMF8
@KRajMF8 Жыл бұрын
Why Ranga is so inturrptive and impatient in this debate. He should stay away from those TV debates, it's affecting his health 😂. Salvatore babones is great in putting across his point perfectly. In one TV debate sanjeev sanyal failed badly to counter SB arguments. Only the likes of Rajiv Malhotra can handle him.
@avinasm
@avinasm Жыл бұрын
Wakf has highest amount of land in India and they are adding more and more land so what is future of Hindus and others
@anilthomas3716
@anilthomas3716 Жыл бұрын
Anand is a victim of his own curation of his persona. One of being a rabble rouser, the desperate need to to say something outlandish and provocative to make his larger point. He thus gets mired in his own mess of meaningless arguments leading to no solutions and total waste of time
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