TSMC and Intel Microchip Breakthrough: The Future is Glass

[@AnastasiInTech]

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[@GualaDRAKE]

Are of Glass, the animals? :D

[@spadeespada9432]

Question from the peanut gallery, isn't glass made from silicon?

[@LAKEVILLEKONICA]

Transparent comedy. Very Punny. 👍

[@LAKEVILLEKONICA]

Wouldn't some rigid strong porcelain function similar?

[@RampagingCoder]

just hope our expectations aren't shattered. would be a better line.

[@abbcc555]

I like this channel because how you're genuinely excited about all these advances.

[@jonathonschott]

I wanted to clarify one part of this. I recently worked at that research fab in arizona for intel as a contingent worker, and have held in my hands those glass substrates, very cool stuff. But i wanted to clarify, their organic substrate wafers are also rectangular. They only use circular wafers for logic. I would hope thats common knowledge at this point (thats not a jab at you, thats a fingers crossed for any nda i might be under)

[@Itskunalumare]

you do very cool stuff man! I as a pilot I appreciate people like you a lot; without you RnD lads planes would be less tech more Manual! Namaste from Bharat 🇮🇳🙏🏼

[@BigSources]

Hello, this is the intel ceo. You will be hearing from our lawyers jonathon.

[@ariisaac5111]

Why is logic still on circular wafers? I thought I had something to do with the way they make the silicone Crystal ignots as a cylinder and then cut them. I think they probably do some kind of spinning operation which favors circular dimensions. So why can't logic go to however they're doing the square wafer substrates if efficiently? TIA.

[@joshua43214]

@@ariisaac5111 Even if using round wafers is entirely last-gen, there is well established supply chains, lots of infrastructure that is paid for and profitable. There is a huge market for legacy chips, they go in lots of cheap IoT devices and are probably the bread and butter of most of these companies profit wise.

[@jtjames79]

​​@@ItskunalumareThere's an electric flying taxi startup that has a fully agnostic autopilot. It was possible more than two decades ago, so it's only a matter of time.

[@jaccurtis5789]

So many glass puns I lost count haha love it thanks Anastasi! Very entertaining and informative :)

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

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[@gronkymug2590]

🤦‍♂ she is hilarious

[@brodriguez11000]

This development will shatter the market.

[@fetB]

"this technology hasa huge promise and i hope glass wont break it"

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

@@fetB You just got yourself seven years of bad jokes with that one...

[@springwoodcottage4248]

Super interesting to be kept up to date with these developments & to learn how glass that humans first made over 4000 years ago is finding new applications. Lovely also how you understand & support wildlife. Our planet needs people like you who push forward technology & who use some of their rewards for this work to support the health & well being of our planet & its flora & fauna. Thank you for sharing & inspiring us all to make the future better.

[@pucmahone3893]

And we haven’t even “scratched “the surface. LOL

[@_september_4799]

Scratches at level 6, deeper grooves at level 7 😋

[@abelincoln3261]

The new sub straight is scratch less ! LOL !

[@daveamies5031]

so many glass puns in this episode ❤

[@simongross3122]

How long did you polish that joke?

[@MrLuigge]

glass is still glass and glass breaks 😂​@@_september_4799

[@dahlia695]

I saw through that clear cut transparancy joke

[@kendoSiwakorn]

I thought she meant it. lol

[@zacharysherry2910]

Datas da joke

[@brettlemoine1002]

I get so much information from your videos... but your puns always crack me up. Never stop! :D

[@MolenXs]

Actually, let's hope it DOES shatter our expectations.

[@BobDiaz123]

In 1965 when Dr Moore published Moore's Law, no one dreamed we'd get as far as we have come. The amazing part is that we haven't hit all the limits to improvements yet.

[@gary.richardson]

I'm glad I clicked on this video. The content was filled with such great information I stayed glued to the video. Re-watch in process after this post!

[@vi6ddarkking]

So Glass Substrate. Now I am just waiting for the Diamond heat sinks.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

IBM used that decades ago

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

Diamond dust in a dielectric fluid flowing across copper fins. Cool down as low as 150F below zero. No water incursions. Spool that clock up!

[@SlimDaddy9]

Hey, why not?

[@Jayf1981]

I remember hearing something about manipulating the properties of lab-grown diamonds; I think it was for use in memory!? IDK

[@MagruderSpoots]

9:05 ?

[@opcn18]

When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a makeup pallet and I was wondering how I ended up subscribed to a chanel doing makeup videos!

[@istiakahamed4804]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@martin22336]

Love how you talk about it. Its rare to find people like you good on you

[@Crimson_201]

love when she mispronounces alot of words.. but still nails it with the puns. she "cracks" me up 😂

[@lovergirl________]

😂

[@okman9684]

The only transparency we can get from the chip industry 😁

[@fermigas]

I wonder if the semi industry will follow the same path telescope making did going from glass to pyrex to cervit to zerodur and even more exotic variants to get improved thermal and dielectric properties both in manufacturing and use.

[@mememaster147]

Not necessarily. The optimum glass for a substrate would have the same thermal expansion as the chiplets so zerodur might cause a problem by expanding less than silicon.

[@monad_tcp]

@@mememaster147 make CMOS out of zerodur

[@jhschmidMD4]

So many puns breaking through that glass ceiling in this one!

[@TheDineinhell]

Those mysterious eyes transcend her excitement through the camera, lips curling into a subtle, elegant smile directed at you. I catch myself thinking "I don`t even try to continue getting what ever she might explaining currently. My goodness your smartness combined with your beauty is so mesmerizing, I am willing to believe you everything..."

[@randytaylor1406]

I still remember in the olden times, they grew SiO2 (glass) to insulate the layers. During that time they spoke of better substrates, like Silicon on Sapphire which was resistant to radiation, but those were expensive. Now, we have gone so far that we have diamond as a heat sink for thermal management, just mind blowing. Great video, once again.

[@rayrocher6887]

Thanks for helping people, and helping the future

[@chriscole2243]

You are so informed in so many ways. Thank you for sharing your intellect .

[@tuirin]

Your content is top notch!!!!

[@markfischer3626]

Glass could be bonded to something more rigid like diamond. There was one physicist in Germany who figured out how to grow flawless diamond crystals in a microwave oven. He needed them for his Q bit experiments. He actually grew some for a necklace for his fiance. The diamond cutters scoffed at him because raw they looked black. However when cut and polished they were stunned. Glass is a supercooled liquid with a very low elastic limit. However there are some types of glass that are much stronger to resist shattering.

[@SureNuf]

Love your puns :) Sharp sense of humor! Thanks for another EE level 500 video.

[@asafhaviv1]

Thank you for this insightful video. The shift to glass substrates is largely driven by the need for much tighter design rules, enabling denser redistribution layers and reducing parasitic effects-key factors in achieving better 3D IC integration at high frequencies

[@Nobody_114]

I made a small PCB our of glass for my Masters Thesis in 2005: it was gold deposited on chromium to make a rectangular rat-race balun. Worked to get my Masters 😀. Then I did my PhD 😀

[@hsingchen321]

Chromium is harmful to environment.

[@Lardzor]

@0:50 I believe the substrate is conventionally made of a composite material made from a glass fiber mesh and epoxy resin binder.

[@markvietti]

warranty void if you hear a crack while installing the heat sink

[@dominus6695]

lmao

[@veda9151]

You reminds me when AMD CPUs comes with no ihs. You actually feel a crack when making an expensive mistake.

[@tiagof857]

@@veda9151 I burnt my first AMD Athlon Firebird, powered on the pc without the heatsink on by mistake, only took a couple seconds to smell it..

[@monad_tcp]

@@tiagof857 those chips where horrible anyway

[@fishingdude67]

Such an interesting presentation. Thanks.

[@jplkid14]

I have been saying optical computing, including use of glass, will be the future for quite some time. In fact, I think some form of amorphous programmable glass will be best. You can basically "tune" a neural network on the glass substrate, then lock in the metamaterial surface patterns, then use light input as the signal and the output is the computed result. If you need to change the function of the chip, change the internal amorphous glass structure and you instantly have a new network that can process on different tasks.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Using glass as an integrated circuit (IC) substrate could offer better heat dissipation compared to traditional silicon or organic substrates.

[@dchdch8290]

And also better for transparency :)

[@teekanne15]

@@tkermi people just read the title of a video and straight up start writing comments before they finished the first minute of the video.

[@meteor2012able]

Great! I just love glass, it is literally magical. The ancients were spiritually awed at how something made from sand could end up in glorious works of cathedral art.... P.S. As an hobby, I used to do stained glass windows for my home... Spiritual, yeah, for me and mine❤

[@pazitor]

Love the enthusiasm. Thanks!

[@ritheshp1170]

Great video explaining about the glass subtrate and you really nail with the puns!!!

[@eyesonly4451]

Amazing! And she gets better and better looking by the year.

[@MikeKranidis]

Very informative and explanatory video. Thanks Anastasi you keep us (old engineers) sync with forthcoming high tech trends ❤

[@ITSupport-q1y]

Brilliant, thanks for the learning.

[@advarkmerrygoround1425]

Wow, thank you for the info' . The way to deal with shock stability is to laminate! look at bullet proof glass and shrink the dimensions. Float glass is a super cooled fluid which has a grain in line with its production process. Take two sheets of glass, transpose one at 45 degrees and put a thin film of polymer between the two, you now have a shock resistant glass. The coefficient of expansion is the same if the buffer polymer between the sheets is the same. Thanks again for you podcast

[@metalhalokj7vzy164]

Many MOSFET devices have internally connected Zener diodes on the gates to reduce the chance of static damage to the gate. the most useful characteristic of a Zener diode is a constant voltage drop under conditions of varying current. The field-effect transistor (FET) is a type of transistor that uses an electric field to control the flow of current in a semiconductor. It comes in two types: junction FET (JFET) and metal-oxide-semiconductor FET (MOSFET). FETs have three terminals: source, gate, and drain. FETs control the flow of current by the application of a voltage to the gate, which in turn alters the conductivity between the drain and source. FETs are also known as unipolar transistors since they involve single-carrier-type operation. That is, FETs use either electrons (n-channel) or holes (p-channel) as charge carriers in their operation, but not both. Many different types of field effect transistors exist. Field effect transistors generally display very high input impedance at low frequencies. The most widely used field-effect transistor is the MOSFET (metal-oxide-semiconductor field-effect transistor). Using glass as an insulator is good until it gets a crack in it because a static charge will find the path of least resistance through the cracks rendering 99.9% of the rest of the Non cracked glass insulator useless. This is not a new technology Anastasi, this is widely available information in the world of us FCC Amateur Extra licensed radio operators and commercial radio and radar endorsed operators as well. I like your enthusiasm on the tech subjects though.

[@jaymethodus3421]

Thanks for the in depth info. Your general feeling on this glass chip technology is that it's not the best way to progress?

[@toddmonka275]

They are both sand, just different forms, right?

[@rapamune]

well, purified silica as raw material for sure (sand is a mixture of minerals)

[@mickbadgero5457]

Similar but not the same. Silicon is an element, and is used for making semiconductor chips. Sand is an oxide of silicon, similar to the way rust is an oxide of iron. Glass is usually a combination of several metal oxides. The advantage of glass is that its thermal expansion can be designed to be the same as silicon. The disadvantage is that glass is by definition amorphous; that is, not a crystal. Silicon used for semiconductors is made from crystals. This can be a disadvantage because crystals do not expand thermally the same in all directions, whereas glass (in theory) does. So perfect thermal expansion matching is not really possible.

[@c94d44027]

Glass has a tendency to flow even under gravity, at a room temperature. Clearly visible when you look at the old windows. I understand that is a different type of glass, but still it would be interesting to see, how this problem is going to be solved.

[@billalumni9142]

@@c94d44027 That is false. The old windows were created as disks spun around and were thicker at the ends. When they were cut the original window framers always put the thick end down. Look it up.

[@HolarMusic]

​@@c94d44027 not quite true, here's a quote because I'm too lazy to type it all out: "It's not totally bullshit, per se. Glass is an amorphous solid. The viscosity of glass is really high, but the bonds between the molecules are not as strong as the covalent bonds in crystalline solids (like diamond and quartz). But the "proof" in old window panes is total bullshit. The bottoms don't gradually get thicker than the top because the glass "flows" downward due to gravity, but instead, the panes were made in a non-uniform thickness back in those days, and the thicker part was oriented downwards for stability. Also, just because it's an amorphous solid doesn't mean it flows. I mean, glass has a greater viscosity than even some metals like lead. In summation, this is a classic case of science textbooks not knowing what they're teaching." Veritasium has a pretty good video on this if you're curious

[@PACotnoir1]

The will technical revolution will arise with photonic chips

[@Cipotalp]

Exactly!!!!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I thought that was the positronic?

[@dchdch8290]

most likely

[@PACotnoir1]

@@antonystringfellow5152 And what about the Taichi-II Chip ?

[@OrbitalSP2]

Intel was doing some good research with silicon photonics but now that the company is restructuring, idk about that anymore.

[@yagoa]

5.5D is a silly naming convention right?

[@geordi-gabrielrenauddumoul449]

Seems misleading ahah

[@alastairleith8612]

I just posted same thing. a super dumb mnemonic

[@Sassafrassassassa]

it was first coined as a joke in 2012

[@nikluz3807]

The glass puns are so clear

[@lovergirl________]

😂

[@ikust007]

I have been a material RD researcher for many years in the field of Ceramics/glass. And a dedicated stained glass restorer / builder . Glass is at the Beginning of its come back .

[@rcamidis]

Thank you for simplifying things for us. I really appreciate it and I have to say you are one of a few analysts I like to watch

[@ve6pte]

Thanks for the clarity! (love the puns)

[@ST-xc3qw]

Great video Could you do a video on the equipment manufacturer for advanced packaging for glass substrate Thanks

[@AugustineAriola]

Anastasi, I love your videos. Please make video on how to make a simple chip at home that contains just one transistor, two resistors, one diode, one or two capacitors. Start from design to finish. I will be glad to learn something new.

[@markhammer9975]

I work at Intel in a fab and I was working on their glass substrate wafers. It's really cool to hear you talking about something that I've been working with. It happened that way with catalyst heaters for the polishing as well

[@PeterBergstrom-vv2sl]

I'm glad you're so transparent on this subject. Thanks for the puns as well!

[@l1CappYl1]

Interesting video, thanks for sharing. We have been using silicon substrate in chips for so long, it's almost surprising to learn that it is finally about to be replaced.

[@jorgebarrero5299]

Now we will have a very "clear" path to the future, a very transparent process

[@DAH-ss1nu]

If the substrate is glass microfluidic heat pipes can be etched/embedded in it to provide unmatched heat transfer away from the die.

[@moosethompson]

You shattered the glass pun ceiling in this video.

[@416dl]

Should add that when we refer to glass there is a lot of chemistry and physical nature involved when it comes to its properties...I know this having studied a lot of glass engineering in pursuit of some projects a few decades ago and of course the material science of it has really expanded in understanding. Looking forward to more...and more. Cheers.

[@TonyRodriguez-Trod312]

Hi Anastasi you know as an electronic engineer I thought about it , using the glass as a substrate when we start using fiber optic instead of cooper wire, and now it's a reality, Wow!

[@tjairicciardi9747]

I really appreciate the non-technical explanations of the extreme technologies covered by this channel

[@saultube44]

Diamond, industrial probably, is a great idea; more of them should be made for all Chips so the Industrial Diamond for Chips gets really low, and don't make Chips expensive and 30% cooler

[@conradohernanvillagil2764]

Thank you Anastasi. Great video. May be the glass would be our answer to CPU, GPU and RAM, ROM memories developing ( and light computing).

[@charlesrovira5707]

@11:22 I can see *Corning* getting into the substrate business and partnering with the planned *TSMC* chip factory which is being built in the *US.* Now that would be one heck of a *Chip **_Fab._*

[@tobiasit1743]

love your videos! you are amazing.

[@wackogeckoatc9060]

Thanks for anther very informative video

[@randletaylor3987]

Great video, you really cracked the topic.

[@walterlyzohub8112]

Reminds me of the logic blocks for HAL in the movie “2001, A Space Odyssey”.

[@dchdch8290]

Wow, really insightful. Definitely will push next gen of chiplets

[@AriBenDavid]

Years ago hard disk manufacturers switched from aluminum to glass for the platters. The surface was smoother and without the micro-pits in aluminum. As far as shattering, Sediver in their glass insulators and Corning in Gorilla glass make "toughened" glass that does not shatter easily.

[@TheMetalMag]

thank you for informative video

[@Jason-vm3lz]

Diamond substrate would fix the fragile glass problem

[@EnlightenedSavage]

Brittleness can be an issue.

[@trinitemplar]

Cant melt diamond. Cutting it wouñd mske too much ridges

[@death_parade]

@@trinitemplar Cutting it? Don't they grow it on top using CVD?

[@Ruhgtfo]

Diamond are full conductor bru

[@Humbulla93]

GDR invented almost unbreakable glass in the 80s called superfest they replaced small sodium ions with larger potassium ions, they just put the glass for 45 minutes in a potassium nitrate bath at 450°C. Cornings gorilla glass is created with the same technique. So fragility issues are remedied rather easy

[@Topgunchannel]

This is interesting. I’m ceramic engineer, so I can involve this project maybe

[@ThePCExpertAmateur]

Hi Anastasi, I wanted to let you know I recommended your video to Bleeping Computer as a resource for their news. Great job!

[@AnastasiInTech]

Thank you

[@ThePCExpertAmateur]

@@AnastasiInTech You're welcome - you clearly deserve it.

[@hdushshs3263]

Love how informative your videos are can you start to cover general technology news as well,I really like the direct research based way you present the changes in the chip industry I don’t know it’s just an idea I guess

[@MASLOV-OLEG-I]

хороший канал ,продолжай нас просвещать !. удачи.

[@lmmortalZodd]

You got my upvote for the constant puns

[@WilliamTaylor-h4r]

As a photon moves through space, normally space is the ground; black points transitioning with plank astral surface area points, two grounds exchanging imaginary transform axis. But the photon is many times slower, so in a snapshot of time, the two grounds latch onto it and barrel shift in the 4096 dimensions range, thus it doesn't have an absolute chiral radix, but churns the space with most of its energy. The implied vector means unradixed points are infront and post radixed points are behind. A very juvenile iacobian cramer rule can be observed in its power over frequency spectrum.

[@hakarthemage]

Linus from LTT better not drop his glass CPUs

[@masterinico]

You know he will. He has to.

[@АльбертС-ф8и]

Из физики мы знаем, что есть проводники электрического тока и диэлектрики. Но это деление условное. Дело в том, что это деление предусматривает некоторые условия, при которых возможна такая классификация. Это означает, что через стекло электрический ток идет, но величина его настолько мала, что ее можно не учитывать. Но при нагревании стекла через него может идти достаточно большой ток.

[@mikeafter5]

Thanks for covering this.

[@caseymead9399]

I love silica microchips, photonic computation, diamond heat sinks, AND little owls! :D

[@ThePCExpertAmateur]

Keep sprinkling your commentary with puns! I love it! Which company do you work at? I love the environment, too!

[@247TechYT]

Hey Anastasia 👋 I'm hearing about various companies including Intel, IBM, and others getting success in making 1nm Chips since 2018. But when these are actually coming to our devices? Thank You 👍

[@vrendus522]

Valuble info. Thanks for the fill-in. Dan Blatecky USA

[@chrisw1462]

Can't believe I didn't think of this.. After all, glass has been used for hard drive discs for years for the same reasons - it's thermal and physical stability over time.

[@D.u.d.e.r]

As the CEO of Intel put it - they as well as the whole industry will be exploring periodic table and use all kinds of materials to deliver innovation in the semiconductor space. Experimenting in labs is going on with TFETs, GFETs and others we don't even know about. Human ingenuity is endless as long as it is stimulated and supported👍Thank u for this vid!

[@tastyfrzz1]

There are many types of glass. Which type are they using? Soda lime, borosilicate...

[@mg4u4ever]

Thanks for your very clear explenation 😜

[@PrincieD]

Anastasi's voice is so soothing

[@delkroupa]

I have followed your advice, and subscribed to Planet Wild. I will also support them.

[@delkroupa]

When we "discovered" America, it was full of bison, deer, elk and fish filled the lakes and rivers, that needed no veterinary care,, and which provided ample food. Then we decided that we had to "fix" it, by cutting down the forests, and plowing the land to feed livestock. What were we thinking?

[@reuvengruber7139]

Very exciting and informative Please do another on glass as soon as possible

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

Babe wake up.... Anastasi In Tech dropped a new video ❤

[@carloslemare6060]

Excellent article. Thanks

[@ManyHeavens42]

Diamonds will be the center of computer chips in the future. You still have to use nickel if you want to time travel.

[@robertboudreau8935]

Corning produces pristine glass surfaces for photolithographicly formed circuits in displays, where yield has to be very high. If you use glass for denser circuits for AI, where heat is generated, I know there is a challenge in dissappating heat. Thermal vias of metal can be introduced but that adds complexity.

[@kashyapchonekar5437]

We can tell you enjoyed making this video with all the puns

[@ariisaac5111]

Love this in-depth analysis and update on this amazing new development in silicon chip /processing fab technology. One question though, for at least 10 or 20 years I recall silicon on insulator being commonplace at high end for high-speed communications and maybe even photonics applications. How is this very different than that SOI technology and white only now has it come to APUs/CPUs? I'm guessing so I was only good for small-scale things like LEDs or I've been with transistors maybe, and not systems on a chip integration on the insulating substrate.

[@_september_4799]

Loving the transition to 4K ❤

[@sandyleask92]

Very transparent technology! I like it.

[@user-lo4er8wy9l]

So the glass substrate can only be used as an interposer? Versus using lithographic processing to layer silicon onto it right?

[@schrodingerscat1863]

I had the same question, this video seems unclear in that respect.

[@TheIgnoramus]

From my understanding, Glass is a “non crystaline solid formed by rapid melt quenching”. So could be either, both or neither. They can use quartz, silicon, and mixtures of many other materials that or conductive to resistive. It’s honestly very flexible, and less restrictive than silicon. Surprised they didn’t do it sooner. Probably just due manufacturing speed and profit limitations, as business does its entropic dance.

[@julioguardado]

I could imagine doing something like SOI, Silicon on Insulator, where the glass is the base substrate instead of a bulk wafer. I think that would have been tried by now because SOI has been around for 30 years at least.

[@kazedcat]

This is possible but expensive. Growing crystalline silicon layer on top of glass substrate involves several cycles of epitaxy and grinding to get a very flat and thin layer of crystalline silicon on the surface.

[@Andysfishing]

I see glass combined with graphite technology in the future.

[@michaeledwards2251]

Silicon graphite is very promising : much higher heat transfer rates than pure silicon.

[@grogyan]

There has been a lot of discussions about photonic transistors in years past, almost entirely using light. So this glass wafer tech is a stepping stone towards that goal