Anatomy of the Renishaw MP10 Probe

[@johnburke7253]

Very good sparky, you did good. Nice note on grease and oxygen. We had someone recently grease an O ring on an oxygen bottle. Needless to say their was a spike in the hypertension meds. market here over that. Keep them coming Tim.

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

Nice, I have a funny story about that. Was at my gas supplier just talking shop and a customer walks up to the counter. Asks if they have any "No Oil". We both looked at each other perplexed and asked the guy what he was using it for. He put an oxygen regulator on the counter and pointed at the gauge, he says, "see it says to use No Oil, do you have any No oil". The sales guy politely explained the dangers of high pressure oxygen and combustible materials, then suggested the customer take some training before using oxygen. Thanks for the continued feedback John! Tim

[@nakul921]

@man unlimited Kudos #Good info, its more useful for freshers in CNC , I would also look forward for Marposs related videos , since we have WRS probes , need to check how actually it communicates with Machine.Thank you for uvr great Effort in making such videos

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

Thank you, most likely wont see any videos on Marposs stuff as I don't have any. But there products are basically clones of Renishaw. I will have a video shortly of the wiring, there stuff mimics Renishaw there as well.

[@impactodelsurenterprise2440]

Have you taken apart a Renishaw RP3 probe before? I have been looking all over the internet for days and nothing came up.

[@EdgePrecision]

Its been my experience that any time you change a stylus you have to do a recalibration. You may find when you adjust the run out of your stylus the shank will run out anyway in relation to the ruby tip. By the way when you adjust the run out of the stylus use a indicator with very little tip pressure. It doesn't have to be perfect the calibration will measure how far off center it is and set some variables in your control to offset the error. It would be a good idea to get a spare stylus believe me you will need it. Does you programs in your control have the Renishaw easy set? This makes it much easer to use the probe for setup.

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

Agree, "Theoretically" it could work. In practice change the stylus, run the cal. I'm not sure my indicator is light enough to adjust the probe. Two options, rotate against a flat wall until it is triggered consistently, or borrow one if I can. I will make a video on adjustments when I get there. I plan on getting spare stylus and a spare contact set. I have the Renishaw macro's for Fadal, have not gone through them yet but they do have a cal section.

[@EdgePrecision]

To trigger the probe you have to deflect it. One way you could do it is clamp something like a 1,2,3 block in the vise jog the probe up close beside it. Put a piece of white paper behind with a bright light on it. Than sight between the probes tip and adjust the run out jogging closer as the run out gets less until you see there is no visible run out (use a magnifying glass if necessary) . I will guarantee you could get it to less than .0005 this way that would be good enough. The calibration would take care of the rest. I use me optical tool setter to adjust mine.

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

No optical tool setters on this machine! Would be cool to see some videos on your Mazak doing tool setting and probing. I was wondering if you had one on your mill turn (could not imagine that machine without one). The videos I watched you used a 3D indicator and a gum wrapper ;) Do you use Mazatrol or Renishaw macros for your probes?

[@EdgePrecision]

I use the spindle probe on my Mitsubishi horizontal more than anything else. My little Haas in the garage has a spindle probe and tool setter on that machine I use them 100% never have used a edge finder on that little mill. All machines that use Renishaw probes or tool setters run their macro programs Mazak, Haas, Mitsubishi, Fanuc they all use them. In fact if you know the macros they all work the same on all controls Renishaw has really done a good job at making them universal. On the Haas in my garage I can give it the same commands I use on the Mitsubishi Meldas control. I will do a video in the future on using the spindle probe for in process machining and up dating offsets all automatically to bring features to size. I use this quite extensively on the Mitsubishi Horizontal. I do have a spindle probe for the Mazak but its just easer on that machine to use the Haimer 3D indicator. It also has a laser tool setter but there is something wrong with it. I need to fix it but I just don't want to spend the money. That machine is so easy to manually touch off tools I probably will never fix it. It has a tool eye too, But that is so high up without a jog pendant for the control you cant see what your doing its easer to do lathe tools also manually.

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

Look forward to seeing that video. Thanks for sharing, I have enjoyed a lot of your videos. I need to make my self one of those go pro housings. And you also have one of the most expensive tire wrenches on record, LOL

[@pioneerprobeandtoolsetter8642]

Good video.

[@waqassaeed2772]

sir I buy fadal VMC 15 with this prob but I can not use this . can you ask me how use this ???

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

I'm working on more videos of how to use the probe in the machine shortly. Thanks

[@bensmith8894]

Yea would like to see how you run the fadal cycles and how it updates work offsets, and what you would add to your program to probe a work zero bore on a pallet before running the parts...we run a siemens 840d, It has cycles in the control, it does describe them in manuals, but trying to understand them is away over my head.... not much info on line about how to run reinashaw in an everyday environment, a video on this would very welcome as you explain things in plain English for the slow learners... keep up the good work.

[@ray-charc3131]

I have little experience in big machine。 But in design concept， this probe is not a very good one。 It may be an older model, the middle portion; the electronic boards and battery compartments， they take up a long length and make the total length of the probe very long。 You can imagine how much run- out for a long and short tool will have on the tip ends when they are mounted on your machine。Renisaw can make this probe very accurate, but it is your problem that your machine spindle axis is not and the probing repeatable will be poor。The most precious portion of this probe is the sensing mechanism assembly。 If the damaged area didn't hurt the internal parts， don`t replace it with other copied or inferior one。

[@AtManUnlimitedMachining]

The older probes are a bit longer, but you can easily adjust and calibrate out any run out issues. It will be very accurate, more accurate then my machine can position for sure. I would only replace the front end with another Renishaw replacement part.