What a great time to get started in saddle hunting. You veterans have blazed the trail. Y'all dealt with so many trials and errors and for you to log your experiences and give detailed reviews, it really does make it less expensive and easier to maneuver through all the options on the market. ..I feel like I'm sneaking into the woods on a path that's already been cut trimmed and raked... with the wind in my face and the staging area 16 yards ahead of me;)
@berekkohl50223 жыл бұрын
I use a small gear tie to add weight to the end of my amsteel if I need to toss it around a bigger tree. Tie a small (loose) knot as a stopper, and pinch the gear tie around the rope above it. It works great!
@rylandrummonds3 жыл бұрын
Very interested. Can you post a picture or video so I can get a better understanding?
@davidmuldoon45412 жыл бұрын
Tethrd will replace those bent sections with a newer, strong and modified model of cleat. The newer sticks come with the new cleats. To tell if you have them, the bottom edge of the cleat that digs into the tree has been tapered (as has the top cleat) instead of a harsh 90 degree angle that won't allow them to give that 1/8" instead of bending.
@Chestthumperoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to using them long term. They check all the boxes I need.
@chickamaugabowhunter20673 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would make a 30 inch stick like the heliums that are lighter bc with my full length helium and one step aider on each i hit 24 ft and I hate to sacrifice height for just a couple lbs.
@griersco3 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about putting a 1/4-3/8 oz drop shot fishing weight into the end of the amsteel rope and securing with a whip finish on both ends of the weight. Adding a short piece of shrink tubing might help keep everything silent.
@wasntmetoo5833 жыл бұрын
one the one stick I have a bungee ball ... works great
@stevegermain12223 жыл бұрын
Electric tape a washer on the end
@40beretta13 жыл бұрын
As usual you are very concise. Plenty of information to obsorbe .. I was a a bit confused on your verbal description on seating the sticks there a the end...recording the slight bending of the fastener
@fischerhobbs17323 жыл бұрын
Was using my Tethrd skeletors today, and I installed the sticks correctly, and noticed that one of the standoffs were bent and that they couldn’t pin back together.
@stick__shooter3 жыл бұрын
Catman beat you to it! 😄 The sticks look nice, like a more refined Helium stick. I've been running woven daisy chains and diy single aiders and that cleat system on these looks much easier. I like your point about being able to use 4 sticks without aiders for the same weight as 3 other sticks with aiders.
@TedTinker2 жыл бұрын
if you're having issues throwing the amsteel rope around, put a small lead fishing weight on the end. A clamp on type. Just a little one will do.
@charlesshepherd91323 жыл бұрын
Excellent and in depth review of what seems to be a great stick. If they can meet demand, they’re gong to sell a bunch of these.
@howardkuhn27933 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to receive mine.. ordered them about two weeks ago.. unfortunately they are on backorder..
@G2Outdoors3 жыл бұрын
Great review... You covered it all!
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Johnsplots3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking into doing some public land hunting in Missouri next year and I may have to add these to my wishlist!
@urbanarcher3535 Жыл бұрын
Have you found a need to apply any tape or stealth strips to the sticks? Also do the pins loosen, my sticks and tough to get apart once all together
@justinwehner60253 жыл бұрын
Where are they made?
@judefuselier3 жыл бұрын
Great nuggets of wisdom! Keep it up! Thanks for the content! Hopefully, the sticks, though "backordered", will arrive by the 25th....
@adventureswiththebeard76352 жыл бұрын
Do you run into any issues with the Skeletor because the standoffs dont pivot? That's the only down fall I've seen in my research. I'm currently using the lone wolf sticks and the stand offs do pivot to conform to the tree. Thinking about making the switch.
@joeyborawa38063 жыл бұрын
Great review ! Ordered a set on Friday 😁 thanks for your videos, always enjoy them !
@koreyw1650 Жыл бұрын
Always love the content and the knowledge you are sharing. Keep it up
@chuckbert31172 жыл бұрын
Great review, I ordered a set yesterday.
@freelancenerd48043 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’m switching over from a climber to this same set up and we’re really close on size. Really appreciate the info, I’m going for it! Thanks! ✌🏼
@brianscustomcanvas19112 жыл бұрын
Use your saddle recliner back strap to shoulder carry the socks👍😁
@6saturdaysaweekoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
The heliums are a fraction of the cost of the skeletors , and nearly the exact step, minus the angle of the skeltors. Disagree with the thethrd quality comments. After releasing a very light and expensive step earlier this season, they had to issue a recall. The May have skipped a step in their QC process. Disappointing considering how expensive their gear is. I’ve ran the 30 inch hawks with amsteel rope and anchor cleats for three years with only one issue, the retention system for stacking them for packing.
@Chasen_The_Outdoors Жыл бұрын
How high have you gotten with them running stock and no aiders?
@dgravette333 жыл бұрын
how many inches is the step from the tree, wondering how much the angle adds to distance,? thanks for the review.
@curtisj.pacejr.5792 жыл бұрын
Great review, but wondering what is your total climbing height without aiders?
@averagejackarchery2 жыл бұрын
17' to platform when I'm not all layered up.
@timothymcglothlin41653 жыл бұрын
“I need like an extra 2 inches right” That’s the story of my life…giggity
@teamhalfrack45063 жыл бұрын
HUH !!!.......i want free stuff too !!! great video nate ....nick and i were actually talking about these the other day thanks for your as always honest opinion brother.....and dont get those gremlins wet they multiply then lol
@jax92243 жыл бұрын
What area do you hunt Indiana I’m from southern Indiana
@wes99983 жыл бұрын
How was it on smooth bark trees? I run hawk Helium right now and on the smooth bark trees then tend to slide down the tree or kick out while climbing them
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I exaggerate not: these have the best bite of any stick I've owned. It's unreal. Smooth, rough, chip, evergreen...all barks aren't safe.
@robertbenton66493 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review and the info
@dantemack6239 Жыл бұрын
Do you still use these sticks? And would you recommend them?
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
Absolutely I still use them! Would highly recommend after many sits with them.
@dantemack6239 Жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery thanks!
@bkbowhunter13 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Daddy daycare you’re down there and there up stairs 😂😂
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I just sit in the easy chair and listen for stuff breaking...
@bkbowhunter13 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery 😂😂😂
@matthewcotoia81823 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the measurement from the top of the top standoff to the top of the bottom step once deployed?
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
17.5". Just so anyone else who's curious can see the reply. :)
@davidfleer53073 жыл бұрын
Ordered a set Friday when they came online with them because early in the season I was standing on one of my other ones wondering why is this such a pain realizing I didn’t have enough foot room 👍
@corey81343 жыл бұрын
You were hunting off your top step?
@davidfleer53073 жыл бұрын
@@corey8134 no just when I climb there’s not enough room for my #13 boots
@corey81343 жыл бұрын
@@davidfleer5307 what sticks are those?
@davidfleer53073 жыл бұрын
@@corey8134 hawk
@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh3 жыл бұрын
Interesting demo. You created them to stress and they bent? How high can you get with 4 sticks no aider? Thx as always for your review!
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Mishandling of the installation caused the bend in the cam cleat. Something I did not know was such a necessity as I said in the video. I have long legs, so 4 sticks and a little more to my platform get my up to 17' off the ground.
@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Thx for your reply. Good hunting.
@matthewgroseclose49733 жыл бұрын
Unrelated question. But if you had to choose between an Elite Option 6 or Impulse 34 which would you choose? I know you’ve been an Elite guy so I am curious on your thoughts. Thinking of picking one up of those up as a backup bow/3D setup
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Impulse 34 all the way there. When I bought my first Elite is was a battle for the 34 or the E35. The E35 ended up winning and I've done a lot of great things with that bow. But I've always wanted an I34 in the arsenal.
@matthewgroseclose49733 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery That’s kind of the route I figured you would go haha! Sounds good thanks for the input!
@anitahickey10403 жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on ah good light weight climber like the lone wolf hand climber/ summit open shot vs one of these light hang on stand with sticks in pa.?... There's not many branches on trees that get in the way of ah climber here in pa... So what do u think?. Do u think the hang on is ah more efficient way to go for ah guy wanting to get into the mobile run and gun style hunting here in pa? And if so, how much more efficient would u say it is. Or vise versa..
@TimPaddy3 жыл бұрын
He's been doing a ton, maybe exclusively, hunting from a saddle these days. I liked this review though, it's got me wondering if I want to try climbing sticks and a hang on in the future. I use a lone wolf climber currently. The sit and climb, but it's not worlds different. I sometimes dread carrying it to the top of the mountain. Pretty bulky, and the longer it's on my back the heavier it feels. Number one complaint I have... Makes it hard to also carry a pack with cold weather gear, etc.
@andrewvidal53253 жыл бұрын
I switched to the Lone Wolf hand climber this year from a Big Game sit and climb. The LW is definitely lighter, easier to pack in and out, and no where near as loud or bulky. But, it's also much smaller to sit in and very little platform space for your feet. I'm 5'7, and for me it felt like this was a small as i could safely go. If you're any bigger, I'd suggest sticks and a saddle or hang on.
@TimPaddy3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewvidal5325 what Andrew said about the hand climber platform is why I have the larger sit and climb. The first time you lean on your toes and realize they're already hanging off, it scares you straight.
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I hunted exclusively out of a Gorilla or Ol Man climber for nearly 15 years. Then tried XOP hang on, then diy saddle, now a real manufactured one. I stuck with the saddle for a few reasons 1) bad lumbar discs with a climber suck 2) weight and bulk savings, I'm all on public land with big hikes, and 3) I like the feeling of being secured with a taught rope from ground to hunting height. Just my preferences.
@brianscustomcanvas19112 жыл бұрын
Damn auto correct 🤣😂🤣 ment to say "STICKS".
@VOTEFORHSHADOWS3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of bows for people longer draw?? I’m around 32ish
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no. Hard to keep tabs on the new models year after year.
@thebearoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Not your average channel…keep it up!!!
@jax92243 жыл бұрын
I also have family in Pennsylvania
@flounderwetspot85243 жыл бұрын
Mine will be here Friday
@davidwatkins65753 жыл бұрын
When did you order them? Ordered mine the morning they posted and haven’t got shipping confirmation yet.
@flounderwetspot85243 жыл бұрын
@@davidwatkins6575 I got the email at 7:45 and I had order confirmation by 8 am
@davidwatkins65753 жыл бұрын
@@flounderwetspot8524 Cool. I was at work so I didn’t see the email till about 10:00am. Ordered and got a confirmation email that said I’d get another email with shipping info. Didn’t say back ordered on the website or the order confirmation but I’m worried that’s what happen. Hopefully I’ll have them by next season.
@flounderwetspot85243 жыл бұрын
@@davidwatkins6575 mine just got delivered today, you will be stoked
@davidwatkins65753 жыл бұрын
@@flounderwetspot8524 looking forward to it! I emailed them and got response “we are shipping them as they become available”. Didn’t like that do to the horror stories I’ve heard about people still waiting on their one sticks. Emailed them again to verify I wasn’t on the back order. They said I was in the first 1000 ordered so guaranteed by Christmas. Here’s hoping 🤞🏻
@danamiller90843 жыл бұрын
This might hurt your argument about the skeletor stick, but I have to thank you. I have an old pair of muddy sticks that are amazing except they are 3 pounds per stick. That's 12 pounds for the 3 with amateel and a couple one step aiders. They are also a pain to carry in. Your hack on carrying in with the bow carrying strap was the aha moment for me. I had one laying around and went to grab it while your video was playing and bam!!! My problem is solved! Thank you. You just saved me a few hundred
@voiceforthevoicelesstruth54803 жыл бұрын
Drill half inch holes and copy it like a beast stick they are amazing! Sheds a ton of weight! Simple drill press or a bench vice and drill. Make sure you have really good bits use oil to keep them cool!
@outdoors-fun3 жыл бұрын
These look like a glorified Hawk Helium 20in Stick, they even weigh the same. Except these are $225 and the Hawks can routinely be found for $100 or less.
@joshlasure33843 жыл бұрын
Finally !!!!
@ritualghost Жыл бұрын
Did your standoffs bend?
@hyperlee782 жыл бұрын
Why I didn't see this before ordering my set of Hawk Helium. I will try the hawk Helium first and see how it perform.