BEST Limb Driven Rest Cord METHOD?! | Use a PRUSIK! Works for cable rests too!

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Average Jack Archery

Average Jack Archery

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@EDHBowman
@EDHBowman 3 жыл бұрын
Love your empathy! I was about to throw my bow through a window watching AJ’s video (I love his stuff, but his angles were more difficult to follow). Appreciate your patience and content!
@SFCascade
@SFCascade 3 жыл бұрын
I finally tied this and holy cow. Such a simple and strong solution! Thank much!
@TheWVgoodguy22
@TheWVgoodguy22 3 жыл бұрын
I got to shoot my bow 🏹 today that you switched my Hamskea Primer from a cable driven rest to a limb driven rest as originally designed. The prusik knot 🪢 that you did held well and the rest is timed like a charm. Thank you 🙏🏻 again Nate. 🏹🦌
@johnwalter6410
@johnwalter6410 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way he says "he' LOOOOOOH everybody" with that northern PA accent. ALWAYS puts a smile on my face.
@rileymauro8172
@rileymauro8172 3 жыл бұрын
Thank the holy lord. Been looking for a way to fix my trinity from slipping. This is an awesome solution. Thanks for the vid, keep putting out awesome content
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@travispham8047
@travispham8047 2 жыл бұрын
Nate. I tried your prusick for the cord. Worked great. But i did have some slippage because I don't think a standard prusick is tight enough when using same rope width. Prusick work best when the knot rope is a smaller diameter then main rope. So l tried a blake hitch knot that is used for DRT climbing. I think it works better because it pinch the tag end. Use 3 wraps and its super solid. Try it out!
@alsmith7316
@alsmith7316 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree the Blake Hitch works better. Also, I do not like using standard D-Loop cord with the rubber dampener. The diameter of that string is to large and it really cuts down on the dampening abilities of the dampener. A quick test is all you need to confirm this. Pull the on the stock string (with the dampener installed) and see how much the dampener expands. If you change up strings, do the same test and be sure that you do not loose to much dampening performance.
@silentassassin1108
@silentassassin1108 3 жыл бұрын
this is great, just tied this on my new Hamskea primer. thanks for the awesome videos
@maiabrittany
@maiabrittany 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained. I might try this one out on my Hamskea Trinity Hunter. Keep up the great videos.
@kmarshall-ep9je
@kmarshall-ep9je Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nate, I do NOT like those little footballs either! Tried tying this knot and works pretty slick. Not perfect but with some practice should become easier to tie.
@georgehardin8452
@georgehardin8452 2 жыл бұрын
I just tried this on my new hamskea epsilon rest for my mathews v3 31 and wow.your attention to detail and angles really were awesome to see. Thanks for the pro tip👍.
@benjaminmiller6412
@benjaminmiller6412 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying this out for my limb driven rest for the last week or so. Thanks for another great video, Nate!
@bretthughes34
@bretthughes34 Жыл бұрын
Perfect. Used this today on my new Hamskea way better than the clamp supplied.
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 6 ай бұрын
just installed a hamskea epsilon and ditched the football clamp for a prusik not with the help of this video, pouring rain out today, so i wont be going outside, but it looks good on the draw board!
@craighanson6936
@craighanson6936 2 жыл бұрын
Tying the prusik into my Hamskea epsilon rest, I found it quite hard to pull tension into the rubber dampener. They supply ended up tying, just a granny knot above the Prusik before you run it through the rest arm to give you something to hang onto to pull against to pull tension into the rubber dampener seem to work well.
@liamboyle9199
@liamboyle9199 3 жыл бұрын
Im gonna start doing this, I've known about this method but from a tree climbing perspective and never thought to do this on my drop away.
@BrunkOutdoors
@BrunkOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Will have to implement this onto our rigs this year! Awesome video as always👍🏻
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have full intentions of keeping it metal-free myself. Love this method.
@ShorrockPaul
@ShorrockPaul 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Do you have a video of how you time your hamskea rest. How to determine where to position the string on the limb
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXvZZ4Chma16l6M
@malcolmtaylor111
@malcolmtaylor111 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea. That reminds me of a Purcell Prussik. They make great tethers, and are almost as fun to tie as bunny ear figure 8s. Also, just to be “that guy”, a prussik is a hitch not a knot.
@jasongriffith1579
@jasongriffith1579 3 жыл бұрын
taut-line hitch. Never would have thought about it for the application of a limb driven rest. Last thing I used one for was to reattach the net on my kids' trampoline.
@cjacosta1
@cjacosta1 3 жыл бұрын
+1 taut line might be simpler to tie, less bulky and the tail goes the other way. Either way, great vid and I wouldn't have thought to do that. For a cable driven rest, rolling hitch or magnus hitch would be great. The main difference is semantics, I think, a taut line ties back to itself forming a loop, where rolling hitch and magnus ties one line to another, like a rest cord to a down cable. very similar knots.
@Alan_Edwards
@Alan_Edwards 3 жыл бұрын
Have my Trinity Target Pro on back order. I've watched so many videos I think I can install it blind folded out of the box...well until I saw this knot. I like it though and plan to set mine up using it.
@archeraction6
@archeraction6 5 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful knot
@stick__shooter
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for linking thr KOTA video. He puts out some great content on IG and KZbin. His thumb pegs for releases are awesome as well.
@Njjb122
@Njjb122 3 жыл бұрын
I like that prusik idea for me i normally put the pull cord through the down cable but i have noticed on some bows it will affect the timing slightly...on my vertix i had to add a little piece of dloop between the up cable to get timing perfect with that prusik its just as easy to set rest timing while not interfering with cam timing
@cdp50359
@cdp50359 3 жыл бұрын
Utilizing the saddle hunting in your bow, nice
@kevinnguyen6456
@kevinnguyen6456 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, will give it a try!
@halfstep67
@halfstep67 3 жыл бұрын
The drop away rest and the expandable broadheads became popular during the single cam craze. A lot of the single cams did not have the best nock travel especially the single cams that had the draw length adjustment pegs. The draw length specific single cams were pretty good designs and tuned well bet were not as popular due to having to swap cams to change draw lengths. So to combat the nock travel issues of the single cam, it was common to shoot a stiffer spine arrow. Then the drop away rest became a popular choice to aid in tuning and then the "flapper" broadheads became popular. I still like the Spot-Hog GKF rests with the TM launchers. As for hunting, I really like the full containment rest like the Octane Hostage Pro rest. The drop away rests have gotten quite pricey. I never have used a WB rest but think they are good hunting rests. With most of today's bows sporting the binary cams, the need for a drop away rest is less necessary. I am hoping for more non drop away rests to find their way into the market. There is a price gap that can be easily filled by a good simple full containment rest other than the WB design.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Same knot to attach the cord to the limb?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
No, there I us a UniKnot.
@woodsdog7849
@woodsdog7849 3 жыл бұрын
This is great advice!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
@hmasters1510
@hmasters1510 3 жыл бұрын
The Hamskea style/ tent stakes are pretty easy to duplicate if you're a cyclist or have a bike that needs a new chain. Basically all the newer bikes are 11 or 12 speed and have small gear links with thin plates. When you install a new chain you have to cut it to length with a chain tool. Every link has 2 side plates,(you only need one) those plates work perfectly. 12 speed chains work the best. Other micro gear chains for models will also work and they are super cheap. Endless supply if you're a cyclist
@JimmyBeanz13
@JimmyBeanz13 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for everything!
@hikingwithaviking8529
@hikingwithaviking8529 3 жыл бұрын
Prusik knot is also a water safe knot, so for those who would worry about swelling and slipping in heavy rain, this knot will hold.
@Bobb1julie
@Bobb1julie 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your content..A favor . My carbon bolts are double dipped. The feathers have been stripped off . I have a can of Fletch Laquer coming from BOHNING. I’m not too optimistic about this . Do you have a better recommendation. Much appreciated ..Thank you
@woodsdog7849
@woodsdog7849 3 жыл бұрын
Please provide the link to the "D" loop material you referenced. Thank you!!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
My apologies! amzn.to/3aL3iTg
@JasonSmith-bv3yd
@JasonSmith-bv3yd 3 жыл бұрын
This is great info......I have a hamskea trinity pro .....just got the rebound dampener, and large teardrop lever arm to eliminate the spring......is there anything I need to know before I install them?...I think I can do it myself but wanted to ask if there's anything I'm not aware of........thanks
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! Just replace the current spring and string with the new teardrop and dampener. Just a simple swap out and new knots.
@JasonSmith-bv3yd
@JasonSmith-bv3yd 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery ..thank u....I actually did it last nite ..it was easy..
@timothycoulter2848
@timothycoulter2848 10 ай бұрын
Thanks I learned something
@danielfunk7769
@danielfunk7769 18 күн бұрын
Will this work on a vapor trail?
@actualtreecare
@actualtreecare 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea buddy
@tat2dlukydevl
@tat2dlukydevl 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Love the channel.. Thanks for sharing.. peAce
@keefer88
@keefer88 3 жыл бұрын
i think it would be fine full time. youd notice if your launcher arm wasnt down with the bow at rest.
@Rollo-lq9jq
@Rollo-lq9jq Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I am done with the football, just a pain in the butt! This knot stays put, NO TOOLS needed and easy fix in the field should the need arise. THROW AWAY YOUR FOOTBALLS FOLKS!!!
@johndhead1
@johndhead1 3 жыл бұрын
Great vids as usual. You may wish to put some moleskin on your riser, under your rest so that it doesn't click when it drops down and hits it?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
For the Hamskeas, they don't sit over the shelf, so it's unnecessary. For my QAD rests that do, I use adhesive felt. The stuff they'd put on coasters and lamps to not scratch wood table tops. Cheap, thick, durable, and comes in earth tones.
@nschoch1000
@nschoch1000 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a taut line hitch would do here, no?
@roncoderre
@roncoderre 3 жыл бұрын
I recognize that this isn't being used in a climbing scenario, but...True prussiks are constructed out of loops and the tension on both legs causes the constriction of the upper and lower sections. I'd be concerned that the knot on the limb-triggered rest, having tension on only the upper leg, has nothing to tension the lower leg, which might need to be regularly tightened. A possible adjustment might be to make a bowline on the outfeed from the rest and build a classic prussik.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is also a concern of mine, Ron! I'll have to keep testing throughout the spring and summer, but as of now with the stiffness of that dloop material and the tightness of the knots, I have experienced zero slippage.
@justinjohnston7025
@justinjohnston7025 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery I have been looking and I wonder if this hitch (knot) would work better - www.animatedknots.com/blakes-hitch-knot
@lubob3
@lubob3 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinjohnston7025 Looking at the link you provided, the Blake's hitch is supposed to loosen up easily for slide-n-grip in slow-motion ascent/descent applications. I don't know if, for the highly dynamic motion of a limb-driven cord, it would hold up better than the tautline hitch with the extra safety loop that AJA posted. Only a direct experimental comparison between the two knots, over perhaps 50-100 shots, could tell.
@justinjohnston7025
@justinjohnston7025 2 жыл бұрын
I have been running the Blake’s hitch on my vapor trail gen7 for a year and it has not slipped. Makes it super easy to tighten the cord and hold it in place while I tighten the set screw.
@lubob3
@lubob3 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinjohnston7025 I'm confused -- you use the Blake's hitch *only* to tighten the set screw that eventually keeps the cord from sliding? Isn't the knot supposed to replace the screwed assembly?
@brutallyhonestmf5578
@brutallyhonestmf5578 3 жыл бұрын
Climbers recognize that knot 🪢😉
@scottm2244
@scottm2244 3 жыл бұрын
Rip Cord Drive Cage hands down!!
@libbybenedict
@libbybenedict 3 жыл бұрын
FIRST COMMENT WOOOOOO 👌🏼
@derekwwharvey4
@derekwwharvey4 3 жыл бұрын
The whisker biscuit are still trying to pronounce prusik cause they've never heard of it.
@paulcrave3112
@paulcrave3112 3 жыл бұрын
Are you teaching school in person or are you online?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
We've been in person since August. Just a few snow/Covid virtual days scattered throughout.
@smau990
@smau990 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm.. bacon.
@littlewoody5539
@littlewoody5539 Жыл бұрын
I still shoot my 3d rover from 1995
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