Ancestral America's Lost Engineers & Astronomers

[@sempertard]

...and this folks is why I keep coming back to this channel. A smorgasbord of cool and diverse topics. Big Up to Garret.

[@Jolly_Rodger]

Very interesting topic, in many aspects. I hope some more videos will follow.

[@marcin1699]

Nice shift of focus, though you are only scratching the surface. There’s ton of channels on yt that discuss the inevitability of advanced ancient civilisations and the similarly inevitable coverup of modern archeology (Ben Forester, UnchartedX, bright insight and many others).

[@reoengineering5844]

Incredibly fascinating. This channel, Ev Cochran, and peter Mungo Jupp have made me an avid listener to mythology where it was only a passing interest prior.

[@gargoyle2585]

TessClark*MythosDecoded 🙏

[@Fractalfrog]

I love your thoughtful videos! Keep it up. FYI, there is a spelling error in the title screen image "Ancestal"

[@SeethePattern]

Oh thanks! I've correct it and made a few tweaks

[@daemonnice]

Poverty point, without getting a full understanding of the height of these mounds, by their location via the images you showed, I thought they might be some sort of raised bed for agriculture. Due to the closeness to the river, and just right of the mounds it looks like a flood plane, so, developing raised beds resistant to flooding might be a thing. Underground dwellings necessary to survive a world in catastrophe. Consider Ben Davidson's Cycles of Catastrophe due to the solar system crossing the galactic plane every 12500 years and allegedly about to do so again. Velikovski's World's in Collision and David Talbott's The Saturn Myth, and Ev Cochrane's furthering of that work, add in Andy Hall's electric geology and the recognition of the electromagnetic nature of the solar system and, the present weakening of earth's magnetosphere allowing in more cosmic rays, and, yeah, I see a future where living underground will be a necessity. Since we are on the subject of North America, what is your opinion of all the newspaper articles from the 19th century discussing graves of giants found 7-10 ft tall with multiple rows of teeth, all sent off to the Smithsonian to disappear? If I recall correctly, it has been suggested that some of the mounds that have been built are burial mounds of these giants. There are hundreds of these articles, many with pictures of a Mayor or Sherriff posing alongside. Also, many of the native stories mention these giants as predators who would prey on the natives.

[@eclipse369.]

7ft all way to 30ft max, what I've read Globally though

[@nonplayercharacter6478]

That structure at Poverty Point looks like electric geology to me, maybe people found and enhanced the features. And I suspect that the Hopi were a remnant that survived the last cataclysm. They brought a knowledge of technology and the heaves from the last civilization, but any tech they might have had was lost. I've been to those Hopi constructions, they were amazing, but when I was there, I thought the description of 'superstitious primitive' was accurate for ancient peoples. They're still amazing structures, but not so much a mystery about how they might have figured it out, and why they are under a ledge is all too clear now. ;) Looks like the 4 corners region is one of the best places to be for this next one too.

[@MrHichammohsen1]

America Before: The Key to Earth's Lost Civilization talks about this in detail.

[@cynicalskeptic]

There's also the Serpent Mound en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_Mound

[@lipsynthia]

Imagine how people would behave if it was common knowledge that life on earth was basically reset roughly every 26,000,12,000 or 6,000 years to various degrees. Imagine if the exact date of the next occurrence was common knowledge. Are we mature enough to deal with such knowledge? Good presentation Gareth!!

[@atomicsmith]

We are most certainly mature enough. Many civilizations have had it as their underlying belief structure. On the other hand imagine the power if you could suppress such knowledge and prepare for the event while everyone else slept.

[@daemonnice]

@@atomicsmith Respectfully, what makes you sure we are mature enough? I have many doubts regarding that, as I am expecting such a rewrite of civilization within the next couple of decades. The underlying belief structure of modern western society is consumerism. It is the buy something and throw it away feel good culture, vacuous and meaningless. To make matters worse, from a Hindu perspective, this is the Kali Yuga, the basest of ages ruled by greed and violence. Look at the last two thousand years of history and tell me it hasn't been ruled by greed and violence. I suspect some previous civilizations were mature enough for they built monuments that some say are attempts to warn us of what is coming.

[@daemonnice]

No, the "we" you speak of, are not.

[@colinbrodhead37]

@@atomicsmith You make a good point, but your expressions are syntacticly oblique : ) Why not just state it in the form of the pragmatic reality? i.e. That "we" are actually living side-by-side with a major cultural force that actually thrives on, and projects its power through, the manipulative effects of profound secrecy, corruption and mass mind-control technologies ---and that it is *that" culture which has indeed been preparing for.. ..something. All we can deduce for sure is that whatever that 'something' is, it means nothing very beneficial for the "we"...

[@francisdexaviermaurinus4695]

@@atomicsmith indeed

[@quitegonejim1125]

Great video, ties up a couple of things with our solar systems 12.5k year disaster cycle. Our electric sun is going to have a shit fit when it gets fully amped by the galactic current sheet we are currently passing through. Add a Heinrich-Bond cycle/event into the mix at the same time too - joy! Fun times ahead!

[@dianaanthony2981]

Your best effort yet, Gareth. Truth be told, when you include lots of mathematics and other abstraction you lose me. Also I know a few Indians and their story is, "We've always been here.". That would suppose multiple origination sites for the Human species, as if Propagules of Life( see GAIA theory) arrived at various sites on the fecund Earth Mother, who was eagerly awaiting our arrival . Our European ancestors preserved this story (without modern scientific language) in the Mystery School network until they were eradicated by Roman Imperial Christian shock troops/mobs.

[@dianaanthony2981]

This idea of multiple origination sites also requires setting aside the "out of Africa" monothougtist dogma currently ruling the academic hive mind. Then evidence could be evaluated by a differing paradigm. Has it occurred to anyone else that the habit of absolutist dogma has migrated from the three most powerful religions (the Abrahamics), into ALL of our modern institutions? Questioning scientistic dogma is evident in EU/Plasma Cosmology but I don't see it extending into the monothougtist religious programs that oppress human curiosity and originality.

[@razor1uk610]

@@dianaanthony2981 If you fail to see aspects of dogma guiding their more devout extremists into acts against others who thought something other, then you're blind to it, some humans are doing exactly that today. I agree with you, but thinking that human creativity & originality escapes all dogmatic extremists is likely much too optimistic and is quite ignorant of monotheisms force.

[@Flame-Bright-Cheer]

Freaking love your channel and I'm digging the new intro thank you so much for the tasty little truth that you present so much better than the spaghetti feed truth of the mainstream...

[@climatepurification]

I thank you peoples commenting with such an open perspective towards undeniable facts. My native blood feels some small amount of redemption in hearing others recognize what I knew was true from my own experiences and research. Progressive civilization should lead towards simplicity, not collected perplexity. These people appeared simple after several hundred years of developed existence. Their intelligence transformed to a spiritual state of being and understanding. They were children of science from a different perspective of time. With wisdoms to be embraced, not destroyed to merely occupy a land. If you destroy what you perceive as your enemy, there is a chance you might be destroying yourself.

[@runs_through_the_forest]

the strong radiation levels by the high energy z-pinch aurora's (as thoroughly documented by Peratt and Versluijs, which i consider a complete work with sufficient proof and data to support the claims) would indeed force people to live underground..

[@realbounty5221]

That was a surprising and quite interesting contribution! There is plenty of evidence of underground human settlements, I just wonder what these underground people had for food! There is no food underground, is there?

[@razor1uk610]

Mushrooms, fungi, insects, ..then again, planted crops in enough volume for general natural loss for pests, animals & the gods, do not always require constant human supervision & micromanagitus tendings until harvesting. It does also suggest at minimal an earlier wetter epoch, for agriculture in Death Valley, ...with greater more powerful storms, both within the atmosphere and storms of a deadlier astrological sort - say The Leonids etc, being heavier, thicker, more (forgive me) brimstone-ish than today's micro-meteoric dust showers of Leonids now usually are. ..it is likely crops of sorts, foraging, hunting animals still happened in the time between storms and bombardments, when persons were outside of the sheltered redoubts.

[@NoeticConcordance-149]

More videos on this please

[@thenextpoetician6328]

Around 11,000 B.C. many civilizations collapsed due to severe drought that lasted about a century in the Middle East, so perhaps as long in the "Americas".

[@photojinndjinn]

When I view these images of underground cities and dwellings that appear to be carved into cliffs or canyon walls, like Petra, I don't think these things were carved out. Instead I see the fossilized remains of ancient cities that were suddenly buried by massive amounts of mud, sand, and water. Just imagine a modern day city like Atlanta or Dallas and the surrounding suburban areas being inundated and covered with hundreds of meters of mud. Then a thousand or so years later we come along and find what's left. Petrified, fossilized, and or imprinted ruins of wooden and reinforced concrete structures left buried in the earth for millenia. 💥🌊🏤🏫🏭🏡

[@LewdCustomer]

Would be very informative to learn why all the civilizations we hear archeologists claim were watching the heavens with everybuilding and hole they made, while all in order to worship their gods. What's the real story?

[@eliotness7274]

Amazing

[@atomicsmith]

Having visited both Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde, I am convinced they are pieces of technology themselves. In other words their intricate construction was specifically designed to DO something. Working on a book of my theory. When you look at the exhibits and signage at these sites, everything is either "religious" or "ceremonial" like all these people did was sing and dance - so insulting.

[@daemonnice]

It has long become clear that the modern western mainstream interpretation is rooted in arrogance, for in their limited minds, they were the pinnacle of human achievement, therefore, everything that come before must be based on some foofoo, for certainly they couldn't have been smarter than us. It can seem insulting, but, in my mind, it is they demeaning themselves. What sort of technology do you envision? I see the Giza pyramids as a technology as well, most likely, a kind of Tesla Wardencliffe Tower distributing energy.

[@francisdexaviermaurinus4695]

Agree. Notice the same attitude toward the stories in the bible. some "experts" today believe our grand parents were stupid and unpractical people.

[@atomicsmith]

@@daemonnice One similarity between Giza and the Pueblo culture structures is small square shafts that connect and extend from the spaces. I think these functioned basically as pipes. That's all I want to say for now.

[@ravenkeefer3143]

There was an inland ocean there until the island of california slammed into the mainland. They were boat people and old maps show a large number of cities and development off the shores. Fact, backed by the sand, coral, and fossil records. Cliff dwelling was literally just a step off the water.. Mahe Ohna, ✌️

[@shdwbnndbyyt]

Per the traditions of the Delawares, they migrated east from what is now the steppes of Asia between 600 and 900 AD... if I remember correctly.

[@OrpheoTreshula]

Amazing.

[@张天添]

During the time of 'Manifest Destiny' coupled with social Darwism of 'bringing the torch of Civilization' to the primitive and the benighted, it suprises me not that any sign or even indication of sophisticated prior cultures in the Americas would be ridiculed at, bashed, washed away, hid, shelved, or even destroyed to fit the paradigm and ethos of that era. It certainly takes nothing less than the courage to commit academic suicide and more than a smidgeon of conscience to say you don't know more than you do. Today is still the same. First they'd ridicule you for coming up with a perfectly sound theory that just won't fit with the pillars of their paradigm, then they'll belittle you. After a while they'd come around to say it was they who thought it up long up. I do hope we still have time for them to do all of that. We have several ancient predictions about cataclysmic changes, impending, and recent, about Earth fire, sky water, and absurd wind, everything you'd expect from that weird fella Chan Thomas. I'm from China. People outside China or not well-versed with traditional Chinese cultural heritage such as the I-Ching or 'the book of changes' usually are not privy to this. I think Chan Thomas is more than a little off the mark but he's on the track. And I think the Hopis are not wrong.

[@madincraft4418]

What fun!

[@andrewwake8607]

During WW2 The American air force stationed at Gander, Newfoundland, found that Eskimo hunters who had never before seen a machine were top technicians.

[@livingood1049]

I've been to a lot of these sites and they are unprecedented. The mainstream story makes little sense and whenever they come upon something that they don't understand they just write it off as like you say, trivial... I am most interested in these caverns beneath the desert Southwest, being one of the few survival spots available after a 400 ft sea level rise and most likely crustall displacement etc. Since I don't have a backstage pass to the billion dollar sites built with our ancestors blood sweat and tears either I would consider repurposing them with a mindful team of Patriots. You know when the tidal waves wash up against the foothills of the Rocky mountains again like they once did, wouldn't be a bad spot to watch it roll back out. I remember hearing the legend of the ant people as well! So fascinating how it is preserved yet obfuscated at the same time.

[@NGC-catseye]

Enjoyed immensely 😺

[@stephenburnage7687]

When Captain Vancouver returned to the UK, from his famous voyage in British Columbia, his logs were seized before he had even docked ande he was never allowed to captain another Royal Navy vessel. Why? Because he was intending to report how sophisticated and impressed he was by the native cultures he met there. That, of course, didn't fit with the narrative of a few savages, used to justify colonization.

[@richardtofield5210]

could the concentric ring thing be a tribal gathering site?. i think if you looked up a plan of the site for Burning Man festival it would look similar

[@psychicrenegade]

Wow! Even with today's "modern" technology...we STILL can't replicate what the so-called "primitive" ancient civilizations! Maybe they never had an industrial age, because they were obviously thinking long-term back then, and they would have predicted the damage it would do to the Earth over time. They seemed to have amazing technology that has since been forgotten...but they never used fossil fuels, and built with rocks, not trees. This ancient wisdom is probably the most important thing we can learn from our ancestors!

[@DegreesOfThree]

The ant people taught me how to love again.

[@TimDavies1955]

Very interesting

[@humanitech]

Although a very interesting insight.. let's be honest here ALL human technological progress, development and success and failure is often based on the mix of current learnt knowledge and understanding, allied to the equally valid ignorance, trial, error and success ...that moves things forwards (or backwards). Starting from needs, objectives, ideas or goals,, which are then pondered, planned and created. Then tried and tested adjusted and modified depending on the outcomes and situation. Sure sometimes even by luck and ingenuity some things just work out straight off the bat... But always with fettling and refinement. So like your images of current modern engineering failures I also now wonder how many other ancient techniques and process were tried, tested and failed or were lost along the way.... That didn't work out or stand the tests of time and entropy. As funnily understanding all requirements and factoring in long and short term risk and failure factors have always been a constant issue and problem for engineers and builders...old and new alike!

[@andreasproteus1465]

Remember, no horses and no wheels.

[@t00by00zer]

Who says . . . the people that built those structures disappeared. The native Americans encountered later on living in nomadic settlements are those that didn't have horses or wheels. Those structures were built by people over a short span based on soil analysis. You don't do that without HUGE numbers of laborers and the logistical support to feed them all, or you have other means of multiplying human power via animals/machines. In reality, most structures, like that of Chaco Canyon, are far more ancient than modern academia is willing to entertain. Humans have been walking the earth for hundreds of thousands of years. They've been building for just as long, and been wiped out on a periodic basis.

[@t00by00zer]

@Wanderers Choice I'm not ignoring anything. Civilizations have risen and collapsed many, many times. Stonehenge is over 200,000 years old. Chaco Canyon perhaps twice as old as Stonehenge. But y'all conveniently ignore that.

[@francisdexaviermaurinus4695]

@@t00by00zer it seems that mastodons were used as animals of work in central america and probably else where.

[@francisdexaviermaurinus4695]

@Wanderers Choice interesting what you mentioned about Egyptians. That could clarify their Atlantis Storytime.

[@phyarth8082]

Naqoyqatsi is a Hopi word (written as naqö̀yqatsi in Hopi orthography) meaning "life as war" Koyaanisqatsi: Life Out of Balance.

[@reefsroost696]

Food for the algorithm 😉.

[@ElonTrump19]

Please give an example of any human activity that is proven to be 10000 years old or older.

[@philoso377]

Diversify our paradigm is one way of self educating. When a city built above ancient ground received a mud fall to be unearth in modern times should we call it underground cave city? At the time of mud fall the new material was mailable that inhabitants and relatives can excavate those trapped inside. The mud hardened over time leaving us in thinking the complex was dug out from one solid rock under ground and abandoned later.

[@dorhinj23]

could blowholes have been used to inflate aircraft ...?

[@ReadersOfTheApocalypse]

e.g. L.A. Marzulli is talking a lot about this stuff (for decades)

[@nobigbang825]

It seems humans have no original defined geographical region; they could have existed on every continent far longer than the conventional theory suggest.

[@johnbreen5668]

Would they not have to know something was coming to have time to dig all that rock out; which in turn, means they would of had some pretty advanced technology.

[@SuperRobinjames]

Native Americans are known to call animal species things like 'brother' bear. Could they have learned building with soil and air flow techniques simply by watching termites? Could the ant people actually have been ants?

[@chloewinkworthartist]

carl munck...the code.. search that,and see what this post guesses about...

[@prtauvers]

Wait- they just built a flat shelf over a natural blowhole ( others of which are shown in the diagram ) - it wasn’t “built” by natives for some supernatural purpose- how ridiculous.

[@glengravel]

The Earth is currently in balance. Though lately (the last four hundred thousand years or so)There have been regular ice ages about every hundred yousand years. During these ice ages, ice build up occurs on Greenland and Antarctica. Once these ice build ups reach the right hight and density? (it snows about three times as much on Greenland) A Dzhanibekov effect occurs and the out of balance earth, starts flipping around like a T-handle on the ISS. Until, enough of the excess ice melts and Earth re-establishes a stable spin. When this happens? Civilization gets destroyed. Any indication or knowledge of archeological remains kmown about, from previous civilizations, gets almost completely wiped out historically and physically, forever. Remaining survivors are found in caves, with little understanding about what the hell just happened. In the last 500,000 years. There have been atleast four great civilizations of man.

[@debbiemcgraw2270]

When the first words are untrue you can’t watch it

[@GhostOfBillCooper]

Ant people = The Greys?

[@noferblatz]

North and South America are vast continents. While one tribe of native Americans may be had superior ability and government, this is by no means true of all native American tribes. For the most part, they *were* "savages".

[@daemonnice]

In the end, all we can truly ever see, is that which is a reflection of ourselves.

[@jooky87]

These ant people intrigue me

[@robertle3038]

Some say they are Grays.

[@YC-ls4yx]

There is no catastrophe so violent and long-lasting in our written history that warrants building massive underground cities. Whatever happened, it was not just some flood that lasted for months.

[@amywas1]

Define "a more collective basis". Nor am I seeing that the Europeans who, after all built Athens and Rome and invented Democracy (remember Democracy?) were not "familiar' with working on a "collective basis". A bit of a surprise to hear such broad generalisations and fudging of facts from a mind so capable of analysing the details. Some of the indigenous cultures did of course use slavery, mostly conquered enemies, which is a form of collective after all. Yes, like Athens and Rome. I might also add that the "mostly Christian' element of civilization is what gave rise to the abolition of slavery not that that is a very fashionable observation to make in this heavily propagandised day and age. But who has ever heard of William Cowper and John Newton these days.

[@daemonnice]

Athenian democracy was not as democratic as you might think. Same is true for most modern democracies. Yes, they did use slaves, but like certain cultures such as the Vikings of northern Europe, the slaves were well treated and generally were allowed to eventually assimilate into their society as a free person. Unlike the western capitalist use of slaves. Christian? You are a slave. You may not be aware that you are a slave, but you are. You are enslaved to an ideological way of thinking. Economically your money has no value for it is printed out of debt. Fiat currency. The vast majority of your news media is controlled by half a dozen corporations. Everything that you have been told is true, is, at best, half-true. You need papers to exit the prison state you call nation. Not only are you a slave, you have made it worse by blinding yourself ideologically. Good luck with that.

[@amywas1]

@@daemonnice I am not a Christian. I have a fair reading of history and my insight into it's interplay with power and propaganda is to me what Music was to Mozart. But thanks for the heads-up.

[@francisdexaviermaurinus4695]

@@daemonnice I sense the dark force is strong on you. 🙂

[@daemonnice]

@@francisdexaviermaurinus4695 I have no hate, only frustration and disappointment. For as strong as the dark force is within me, so too is the white. I walk a fine line with one foot in either side.

[@daemonnice]

@@amywas1 My presumption was based on your statement, "mostly christian". Methinks your history is rather limited for it is a concept as old as anything, and christianity is not. I do agree that christianity, in particular catholicism, has throughout western history has had much to do with power and propaganda.

[@7munkee]

Poverty Point a temple LMAO EVERY ancient site is a temple to archaeologists.

[@colatrl.damg3167]

Love this channel, normally. But this is horrific. Very anti-western bias. Right in the intro, the Europeans who settled here can be called lots of things, pilgrims, settlers, invaders, etc - but the one thing they can never be called with a shred of intellectual integrity is "immigrant" - That is FALSE, and casts a shadow over the rest of the video. It's sloppy use of language to advance an agenda. I've come to expect more from this channel - to be about science and leave the politics alone. Very disappointed to listen to this. In fact its' so dramatically different in tone from every thing else here I suspect it was a written by someone else and delivered as a sponsored show.

[@SeethePattern]

I'm really not sure why you see it as an anti-western bias not what agenda you think I'm trying to push. I think you might be projecting here. The Cambridge dictionary definition of immigrant is: a person who has come to a different country in order to live there permanently

[@colatrl.damg3167]

@@SeethePattern Thanks for the reply, but you answered your own question. What country did the passengers of the Mayflower move into? Did they join the Apache nation? Cherokee? Because then they were immigrants. A country is not a patch of dirt. The nation that came to be The United States was built with great sacrifice. Those that built it were not immigrants but settlers. It's a very anti-Western (or at least anti-American) to try to equate someone who takes a short trip on a plane and is handed a passport with the Founders of the nation that they are emigrating to. These are not the same things by any measure. The "agenda" is too broad to give it justice in the comment section, suffice it to say when you dismiss the settlers of America as "immigrants," you essentially erase Americans from existence. They're just a bunch of immigrants, and obviously one immigrant is no different from another. If it's not agenda driven, then I don't know how else to understand such an absurd sentiment. Politics infests everything these days and I didn't fully appreciate how nice it was to have a channel that was immune, until it wasn't. I hope this was just an anomaly. I've loved every video here until this one, it just seems so out of place.