Ancient North American Cities and Why People Left Them

[@sharonminsuk]

Cahokia Mounds is an amazing place. If you're ever in the vicinity of St. Louis, stop in. It's an archeological site with an excellent museum, and walking tours around the expansive site. Truly eye-opening. Cahokia was more than just a "city", it was a significant metropolitan area, with satellite communities spread over a wide area, essentially "suburbs".

[@carlosaraujo451]

Thank you Mitch and Kathleen

[@CarlosPena-pf5zi]

That was an interesting conversation thank you

[@gnostic268]

There is no evidence of child sacrifice at Cahokia. I don't know where Kathleen got this information but I've been going to Cahokia once or twice a year and studying it since 1996. My in-laws are Muscogee Creek who are also a moundbuilder culture. There is evidence that young women were sacrificed based on some of the excavated graves and more recent LIDAR discoveries. The Cherokee are now part of the Five Civilized Tribes now but were from much farther to the north around the Great Lakes because they speak Iroquoian, a different language stock from Muscogean and they were not allies to them until colonization. Many of the tribes still exist and are the best source as experts because no one can speak for so many tribes without sounding pan-Indigenous.

[@DougGrinbergs]

3:45 Cahokia Mounds

[@brictator]

14:00 based on what does she conclude that the descendents of enslaved captives would not be born into slavery? when enslaved people had kids the captors set the kids free or excused them from labor? according to what?

[@dbarker7794]

Everything was perfect until the white people showed up. But seriously, she contradicts herself frequently.

[@Buf-g6m]

Its unclear it was hundreds of years ago .

[@Stupidityindex]

In the XII century significant events take place, as described in the Gospels: the coming of Jesus Christ, his life and crucifixion, although the existing text of the Gospels was edited and most likely dates to the XIV-XV cc. In the mid XII century, in the year 1152, Jesus Christ is born. In secular Byzantine history he is known as Emperor Andronicus and St. Andrew the Apostle the First-Called in Russian history he was portrayed as the Great Prince Andrey Bogolyubsky. To be more specific, Andrey Bogolyubsky is a chronicler counterpart of Andronicus-Christ during his stay in Vladimir-Suzdal Rus’ of the XII century, where he spent most of his life. In fact, the Star of Bethlehem blazed in the middle of the XII century. This gives us an absolute astronomical dating of Christ’s Life. [ЦРС], ch.1. ‘Star of Bethlehem’ - is an explosion of a supernova, which at present is incorrectly dated to the middle of the XI century. The present-day Crab Nebula in the Taurus Constellation is the remnant of this explosion. Enigmatic timber scarcity in Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages as first recognized by dender-pioneer Ernest Hollstein (1918-1988) "No sites exist anywhere with uninterrupted timber specimen from about 1000 CE backwards to Imperial Antiquity(1st-3rd c.). which is why the dendro-chronologies for Ancient Rome and, thereby the entire first millennium are in disarray. Since the very existence of the chronology periods without wood samples was never doubted by the researchers, nobody started to question our textbook chronology. Instead, out of stratigraphic context, scholars searched for wood samples in wells or moors to fill the irritating gaps. In addition, identical reign sequences were used twice in a row to gamer more years. Therefor, "all dendrochronological datings done on West Roman time wood is wrong by some unknown number of years"(") kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWmaZ5-Gj5KIkLc&ab_channel=PlanetAmnesia

[@dbarker7794]

Does everything have to turn into a lecture on "racism"?

[@sharonminsuk]

Racism exists. If every time you run into discussion of it, you interpret that defensively as a lecture on racism, then everything will turn into a lecture on racism. Ah, but I see by the scare-quotes that you put around the word, that you don't really believe it does exist.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

if you read "The Racial Contract" you learn that Platonic philosophy is based on "natural law" as a racist eugenics. If you read Professor Ernest McClain's "The Pythagorean Plato" book he explains how Plato defined this eugenics as tied to the origin of irrational magnitude math with the inverse exponential function as wealth for the elite. So yes the racism is structural in Western civilization. Of course you don't have to be part of Western civilization to be racist.

[@PNNYRFACE]

@dbarker7794 YES EVERYTHING

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@PNNYRFACE was there racism against Neanderthals? I guess they are technically another species? "more than double the number of species, including at least four that were around in the last 100,000 years....nine human species from the past one million years,....On this basis, 'species' that interbreed with each other cannot actually be distinct species. Critics who disagree that H. neanderthalensis and H. sapiens are two separate species can now cite supporting evidence from recent genetic research....many other species of mammal interbreed with each other - for example different kinds of baboons (genus Papio), wolves and wild dogs (Canis), bears (Ursus) and large cats (Panthera). In addition, one recent estimate suggests that at least 16% of all bird species interbreed with each other in the wild.... It may take millions of years for full reproductive isolation to develop, something that clearly had not yet occurred for H. neanderthalensis and H. sapiens....behaviours are potentially more plastic, evolve more quickly, and spread more easily within and between species than traits based on anatomy and DNA." hmmm I guess it's arguable based on whether a scientist is racist against Neanderthals or not?

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@PNNYRFACE Some scientists insist Neanderthals are a separate species despite our interbreeding - so maybe those scientists are racist.