Anderson Silva: the patron saint of Wing Chun for all the wrong reasons

[@LAVATORR]

Dr. Strange: I just looked into 14,399, 417 possible futures where you fight Anderson Silva. Me: How many do I win? Dr. Strange: One. When he uses Wing Chun.

[@RamseyDewey]

Mwahahahahaha!!! Oh wow, that was awesome.

[@weareisraelyah7454]

That's actually funny mate 😂👍

[@lukeism2]

😂 Bisping consulted dr strange

[@sirbisping9324]

@randy palla cmon. His bjj isnt thaaaat bad......

[@sirbisping9324]

@randy palla bjj still works in mma. It definitely is not as useful as it used to be in the early ufcs but there are still submissions. And that is a small part. Bjj is nost of grappling. Learning your hooks and takedowns, which can also be wrestling. And when you get to the ground getting where you want to be to smash there head in. Wjoch can also he wrestling.

[@Catonius]

Legend says that Anderson got his bjj black belt using only Wing Chun.

[@elenchus]

100% true story. I once visited a wing chun school in college where the teacher told my friends & I that, unlike BJJ, using wing chun he could defeat multiple opponents on the ground.

[@blackneotheone2978]

Think about this hes a Brazilian he has a Brazilian jj black belt from a Brazilian coach nogueira 🤔

[@blackneotheone2978]

@randy palla its funny how it take 10 plus years to be a bjj black belt but out of nowhere Silva is a black belt under the nogeria brothers hes a Brazilian their Brazilians come they could have easily just gave him that shit taught him a few slick submissions to make him look like a real black belt

[@blackneotheone2978]

Look Tyrone Woodley a bjj black belt under din Thomas but he couldn't submit usman bullshit

[@elenchus]

@randy palla Oh, I've been openly gay for almost 20 years. I was talking about you.

[@edrichlouw1790]

I’d actually love a “hater-sensei grandmaster chosen one” T-shirt

[@TheKnightguard1]

Edrich louw Me too!!

[@marcoaltobelli2423]

Ramsey, open up a shop, NOW!

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

@@marcoaltobelli2423 i want a black belt in hating.

[@paulrawn9093]

That would be amazing

[@rinflame44]

Nah, it would be spelled by the bends on the sensei's beard...

[@callumbiasnow4825]

Silva is a living legend, love that he’s not afraid to use unorthodox techniques to kick ass. I think he beat Bisping to be fair, but the wing Chung input was minimal.

[@andrewsmith2880]

I teach Wing Chun. I've seen the videos of Anderson Silva doing Wing Chun and the author is really reaching to prove his point. I've been a big fan of Silva for years, but I've never been convinced he studies Wing Chun. His counter-punch ability is uncanny and although Wing Chun does use a lot of counter punches, I've never seen anything that convinced me his counter punches were from the study of Wing Chun. I get a lot of questions from my students and casual observers about Wing Chun's effectiveness in combat. It's not magic. There are techniques that work and techniques that don't. There are good Wing Chun fighters and bad Wing Chun fighters- just like any other style. Wing Chun won't make you invincible. A professional fighter (of any style) will destroy a casual practitioner of ANY martial art- that's just common sense.

[@bw5020]

Notice your comment gets lost in the hugbox of Dewey's fanbase. Considering Dewey's fight record, I'm not sure he wants to talk shit

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

Practiced wing Chun for 10+ years now, and Silva has been taught some adapted uses of wing Chun, yes, by a wing Chun master, yes. But he did not specifically train "wing Chun" . That's where the confusion comes in he didn't study the art as a whole but one of his trainers who coached his m on fighting happened to be a wing Chun master. But he was teaching Silva how to fight, not teaching him "wing Chun" if that makes sense

[@THE_Secular_Conservative]

@bw5020 So what. There are coaches in the NFL that are amazing that never made it past college ball.

[@houayangthe3rd]

"If it weren't for his wing chun Silva would've lost worst" Lol I had to say before someone else did.

[@jatsantsa]

If he was better in wing chun he would have won.

@@Sam-sw5iu Whether or not Bruce Lee was or wasn't a real fighter wasn't the main point I was making. However, I'll just end it on the point that he never had a professional or even an amateur background in fighting. Which is why people say that he isn't a real fighter.

[@DxModel219]

To be fair he was being trained in JKD and it was for only a few days. Anderson won that fight just look at Bispings face vs Anderson’s. I think he was at a point where he is experimenting with other arts.

[@javiermfmaldonadofernandez1489]

@ how exactly do you get a "professional background in fighting"? What do you mean???? Do you mean humanity didn't know how to fight "properly" until UFC came to exist? Were traditional martial arts a millenarian waste of time? Are there not "real" fights outside MMA or combat sports? What do you call a street fight, where UFC rules never apply? Did Bruce Lee not train for them? Or do you mean that only true practitioners of MMA know how to fight because they have "proper knowledge", as in more scientific knowledge about fighting? If so, where did they draw that knowledge from? Why do all of them train as well, to BB degree, in traditional martial arts too???

@Will iam I'm not sure what your first point exactly was supposed to prove, so I'm going to jump past that for a moment. Martial Arts, specifically Chinese Martial Arts come from a base of spirituality from my understanding. The idea is self defense which is not necessarily learning how to fight as much as defending yourself. The issue with being a defensive person is that it opens up more opportunities for you to take a hit and is far different from someone who is directly trying to fight and return damage to an opponent. It's not my zen philosophy of the art but rather what the creators originally made it for. Half self defense, half spirituality.

[@davidbailey6397]

The biggest slap to the forehead moment to me was years ago when I had a discussion with a wing chun practitioner about learning falls and rolls like I learned in Hapkido and BJJ. He said “ we don’t learn that stuff in Wing Chun because we never fall.”

[@lancepabon]

Lol.that guy was believing his own bullshido

[@FabianYasahiro0108]

As a former Wing Chun as well as MMA practitioner I can tell you that a Wing Chun practitioner avoids being taken down.A lot of the techniques you will find in the second form of Wing Chun called Chum Kiu.Breaking the guard,bridging,torque power is all taught there.If you use Wing Chun correctly,it is difficult to be taken down.A lot of people who don't understand Wing Chun judge it very easily without understanding that Wing Chun has throat strikes,ear slaps,elbow and knee strikes.Its brutal and sneaky.I used my Wing Chun a lot in MMA and it worked for me to prevent takedowns as well as closing the gap.

[@prointernetuser]

that's the moment where you shove him real hard. it'd be doing him a favor and he'd realize that after you're done side stepping from his wing chun chain punch.

[@edtheangler4930]

@@prointernetuser Chain punch comes last after busting your knee and balls

[@powergaminggg8730]

Just found this fun noun dictionary and I thought that it would be appropriate to share it with the public in here. At least I laugh for few minutes at it. Jiujitsu noun 1. The gentle art of folding clothes while people are still in them. 2. Involuntary yoga. That's from me, hope to make at least few of you laugh.

[@Ilovevidgames123]

I loled. Thank you for this.

[@treacheroustrouser4652]

Thank you

[@fateisnotthesameforall4811]

Silva doing the Bruce Lee impression with the towel is priceless xD

[@mattparks954]

Unpopular opinion: grabbing wrists and throwing elbows doesn't mean Kung fu works in entirety

[@hedleyparis397]

One genuinely does not throw elbows in Ving Tsun. Throwing elbows usually occurs when one is off centre. It's also less efficient as one has less range than an outstretched arm. Without gloves, limitations on "legal strikes" and a correctly conditioned body, one really does not need to use elbows to end a fight. Grabbing wrists can be useful, but not to the extent of fighting hands - this goes against the principle that Ving Tsun should be effective without strength... And indeed Anderson Silva should not be using strength as he is less than a beginner at Ving Tsun, and beginners should not use strength.

[@Schwartzbruder1]

My god. I saw the title of the video and immediately cringed. It's painful to me that people relate Anderson Silva to wing chun. I thought they stopped that crap years ago.

[@PaschanTOPs]

I'm not trying to be an ass but Anderson Silva himself considers Wing Chun the basis of his fighting style.

[@fredbohm4728]

@@PaschanTOPs ...bullshit!

[@PaschanTOPs]

@kommisar Google it

[@Arthur-Mallmann]

@@PaschanTOPs I've trained in one of his gyms. There wasn't even wing chun classes there

[@TheShourdedLord]

Ramsey has finally taken up his rightful title, all hail Hater-Sensei Grandmaster Chosen One!

[@sugoiboi6969]

So who would win in a fight, Master Wong, or Captain Krav Maga?

[@tkaid5247]

Obviously master ken

[@safdarkh786]

Captain krav maga all the way

[@RawDoggin_78]

Us.

[@safdarkh786]

@@tkaid5247 oo not fair!

[@Catonius]

Wong vs Zelenof, winner get Floyd in mma.

[@mysticdragon1717]

Anderson Silver did frequently apply Wing Chun "sticky hand" techniques very successfully to first restrict his opponents movements and create an opening before he launched heavy punches or knee strikes that were very damaging. Those applications of Win Chun techniques were mostly subtle but would be very noticeable to skilled Wing Chun practitioners. However, he also did apply some highly exaggerated movements that looked like Wing Chun "slapping hand" techniques but clearly were not. He seemed to apply those exaggerated movements typically not at the beginning of a fight but after he had experienced considerable struggle by the second or third round of a fight. Those exaggerated movements looked less like a skilled application of Wing Chun but more like some kind of stress reaction. When Silver did used Wing Chun very effectively, most people would not be able to identify it because he applied the concept very skillfully without replicating the classical text book movements so that he could integrated Wing Chun with modern hand striking techniques. Wing Chun was invented about 300-400 years ago when the world world knew a lot less than what we do today. It should not be disrespected nor to be worshipped. That is a lot of beauty in Wing Chun to be admired.

[@ShovelChef]

Amanda Nunes used what could be considered a Taekwondo block, in a pivotal moment in her fight against Cris Cyborg, and I do believe she won that fight partly because of that block. Am I going to make an "Amanda Nunes Taekwondo God" video? No. No one needs that.

[@ralphgraciebrazilianjiu-ji5862]

FYI: The guy that Anderson Silva was talking to while working on the wooden dummy is actually Michael Liera Jr., a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under Andre Galvao.

[@burningflag3679]

Nothing but respect for what you're doing. You're not being rude. Or trying to destroy people's ideas of this or that. You're just honestly applying your experience and giving your thoughts, so subbed.

[@Azami0001]

I used to do wing Chun for about 10 months. There are some good techniques in the art that can adapted to other arts but it definitely has some bad habits for fighting outside the pocket.

[@giuliod.5944]

It was my first martial art, useful to use for explore the limits of my brain. Like when the master at the end of the lesson hit whit light punch and my brain freez. I leave it for the "levelling" sistem but it was informative and fun. Like Ramsey say, depends on the school and environment

[@valerioligato6874]

@@giuliod.5944 Hey there, where have you trained? If i can ask

[@giuliod.5944]

@@valerioligato6874 In Toscany. I had a good experience whith the school and made some friends, all in all. I recommend it if you are interested

[@kungpowchickenwing]

Agree. Wing chun has problems. But so does every martial art. MMA is a fusion of martial arts. It isn't technically a martial art itself. It sort of like JKD. I FULLY EXPECT wing chun to feature in MMA in small examples.

[@Azami0001]

@@kungpowchickenwing Very true. People that claim that their art is more practical is either 2 things 1. They are disillusioned in the idea that style means everything. In some cases it is not. As Bruce said, "Take what is useful, discard the rest.." or something like that. 2. They're lying (either in a good or bad way.)

[@yungchangsta]

Me: Oh ok, wing chun aint so good. Ip Man: *Under my bed, heavy breathing*

[@Pyrela]

"That's not REAL Wing Chun." Personally I've always preferred Wang Chung to Wing Chun. It allows everyone to have fun.

[@elenchus]

you know, I've never really thought about it like that before. thank you.

[@serkankoldere]

Everybody have fun tonight!

[@raphaellopez9290]

I done Wing Chun for 4 years and I have never seen Anderson or Tony use Wing Chun in any of his fights and even when he was using the dummy and that's not Wing Chun..

[@Skalias]

People who haven't sparred using wing chun against a variety of opponents really don't understand pure unaltered wing chun really just sucks when fighting people who aren't also using a thousand year old kung fu. In that clip where Anderson is getting beaten, it looks like he's using chum kiu to defend, which to intercept the punch with an elbow when he cant even see, is just ridiculous. Personally if I was him and I REALLY wanted to use wing chun for some reason, I'd bait them to approach and then try to get as far into the inside as possible so then my wing chun would be able to actually do anything, or atleast for the 2 seconds before they realise they're where I want them and they just get outta there. Most wing chun dudes are just unlucky and havn't been trained to actually spar let alone spar with other styles, so they do all this cool wing chun shit that looks like it's straight out of the Ip Man movies and they think they're unbeatable and because of that havn't ever had the most important experience when it comes to being able to learn how to actually fight with wing chun: getting your ass kicked in sparring. p.s every video where you introduce yourself as "hater sensei grandmaster chosen one" deserves an instant like from every viewer

[@theorganicway2go]

Rebel WC ftw. Shout out to sifu Ming.

[@andrewgalloway8012]

This is very much in line with my own WC training. It's all well and good until a fighter who understands range comes at you with a heavy overhand. WC is dope AF, but people really don't seem to understand that it has some glaring shortcomings. My school uses it as part of a larger curriculum. I think that's the only way to use it effectively today.

[@Skalias]

Yeah I agree brother, Wing Chun can only be used in a fight against a skilled fighter if you're using other things to cover up the crippling weaknesses Wing Chun has. Though I believe the strong points of Wing Chun have no equal in the hands of someone skilled.

[@dogwink]

@@andrewgalloway8012 Right. There's an extremely narrow window in distance where wingchun works well (just a split second before the clinch), but it's such a small window that devoting inordinate amounts of time is inefficient for a combat athlete. If you've exhausted all other training, it might help a bit to explore, and undoubtedly there's value, but I see it in this manner. In a box of Crayolas to illustrate picture, Muay Thai and BJJ are black and white (bare minimum for competent MMA). The Olympic sports of wrestling and boxing are primary colors. The other Olympic sports of judo and taekwondo (also non-Olympic karate) are secondary colors. The rest of the martial arts, like wingchun, I see it like the novelty colors that have very limited value, but will help the picture when used in the context of other colors.

[@xCorvus7x]

Reminds me of this clip: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4vIpmNultKWi5Y

[@LAVATORR]

Hint: If your entire art's legitimacy hinges upon one or two people with a tenuous relationship to your style, you're asking the wrong questions and giving the wrong answers.

[@FightCommentary]

Great video, Ramsey!

[@deividilavitz6645]

The Seagal meme era produced several great memes, my favorite was (still laugh on it): -You know that thing you love your GF does to you? I taught her that!

[@Steetotal]

There are also footages of Silva vs Diaz in that video, where he was more dominant with seemingly wing chin techniques. The footages of him against Bisping are there to show that, with those admittedly unorthodox techniques, Silva still managed to deflect Bisping's shots, without showing passivity, and ultimately reduce damage instead of being TKOed.

[@uralwong799]

Would love to see a similar video on your opinion of Zabit Magomedsharipov's Wushu.

[@uralwong799]

@Silviu Florin I didn't mean similar in the sense of being critical. Similar in the sense of breaking down short highlights of UFC fighters with interesting styles.

[@charlesbetancourt7337]

He was probably the first fighter that used "light skill kungfu " by running up the cage fence Him or maybe Pettis. Regardless he uses standing footsweeps and other traditional moves that so called experts say don't work.

[@Nord1980]

Adam Willis is really not in a position to speak about fighting. He is a complete clueless wing chunner who has not a single one video where he fights or even spars. In one of his videos he was showing some pathetic and horrific takedown defences and claimed that he used them on real wrestlers, who became his students afterwards.

[@dragster100]

I don't know man but I think most of the wing chun's moves are not ergonomic. The way they walk on their stances and the way they throw chain punches are against human's body structure - Our hip, torso and joints are designed to deliver a boxing cross much powerful and smoother than throwing chain punches where you literally just extending your arms repeatedly in front of your chest without involving your leg and hip power. And another selling point of wing chun is close quarter combat? Really? At close quarter range a Thai clinch with repeated knee strikes to the body and face would be so much more powerful and difficult to defend (think of Wanderlei Silva), as the clinch itself can also maneuver your opponent's balance. On top of that at such close range you can also easily takedown your opponent especially if he is a wing chun practitioner who knows nothing about grappling if you know how to wrestle, because why have to keep the fight on the feet anyway?

[@MatthewTraceur]

necro post, but WC does use pivoting, its power comes from turning the feet (heels down) and timing it with a "Cross". The heels down nature as well as the stance probably has something to do with how WC (and southern styles like Hung Gar) are suited for fighting on boats, which may have something to do with its practice by a theatre troupe called Red Boat Opera. Its a martial art suited for self defense while on a junkboat/anything moving

[@dragster100]

@@MatthewTraceur What is the chance to be in such a situation that you have to fight off an opponent on a floating kayak lol. I bet under such circumstance your swimming skill is more crucial than fighting skill lol. Nevertheless even you are in such a situation I bet both of you would put fighting as the second priority, and even if it has to happen I think grappling skills (BJJ and wrestling) will be more relevant, as you both are much more likely to end up on the ground. So again, why wing chun?

[@lucagunetti7250]

Wing Chun can work, like anything else in fight, if and only if integrated to other systems. No system is perfect and every system has flaws. MT, which I practice, isn't free of holes just like bjj or wrestling for the matter. It's the practitioner who makes the style and not the other way around

[@kennethjohnston9736]

Ramsey Dewey is the Patron Saint of MMA coaches, MMA judges, and voice actors!

[@cecilchuck9962]

I went to an Anderson Silva seminar recently with my wife; stand up and bjj. We had to leave before it was over because we had to work. It ran so long because he took the time to critique every participant on every technique. and he was so happy to be showing people things he liked to show he just kept going, people was dragging on the floor tired, and he'd say OK the next technique is.......Dude loves his job.

[@dustineccles6714]

Congrats on 100k Ramsey! Been watching for a while, can’t wait to see your 100k plaque unboxing man.

[@johndrake5467]

Freeze frame at 7:44. While Anderson did get hit in that overall exchange, it looks like the strike at 7:44 did not land cleanly if it landed at all. That said, Anderson had what he called a "lead elbow parry" on his MMA instructional video some 6 years ago (or more) and prior to any "official" dabbling in wing chun. See: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3Wbemesn9qif7s And other boxers, kickboxers have used a lead elbow parry. James "Buster" Douglass used what looks a lot like a lan sao when he defeated Mike Tyson. See 1:48 - 1:56 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKeXo6JqeZZpfpI First Douglas uses his forearm to push Tyson away. Then when Tyson gets close he uses his forearm in a lan sao position to neutralize and in a low bong sao to deflect Tyson's uppercut before finishing Tyson off with his own punches. I doubt Buster Douglas had any wing chun training or was thinking "lan sao" this or "bong sao" that. These were only positions that manifested themselves because....well they were "there" and they worked. Back to Anderson SIlva. In his fight with Nate Diaz you can see him use a pak da (pak sao with hit) at point 2:57 of this highlight reel of their fight. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hajMe32hdtiIqLs Note that Anderson throws a left jab, Nate responds by covering his center line with his elbow, Anderson checks Nate's elbow with a right hand pak sao, and he pushes Nate's face away with a left palm. Anderson ultimately won that fight on a decision but it was ultimately ruled no contest because of PEDs. (Ramsey Dewey has a good discussion on the effects of PEDs and he explains Anderson SIlva was most likely using PEDs to aid in his recovery from the broken leg). Bottom line, there are elements of wing chun that can be helpful. I'm not sure how a judge would have scored the strike at 7:44, but it was a glancing blow, if it struck Anderson at all.

[@jcarney1987]

In my opinion Wing Chun isn't something you can just dabbling and be good at it. I'm often teaching my son typical Wing Chun techniques and when we Spar one day I notice he started to hit me more. I noticed because I was a little less focused and had a lazy form so the minute I paired my form and put it all back together my son can no longer hit me and I was literally destroying him. So not to say that mean destroying my son in a light contact spar means anything, what I'm trying to say is Wing Chun if you're not focused on your form and structure and follow the principles to the teeth then your whole system could be broken. As far as I know you have to have it all working as a functioning system and if you leave one part out and becomes broken.

[@Izumabakumatsu]

I never understood Spider. He has some of the best fights in MW. But he also has some really bad ones as well. The bad ones is when he plays around... Also, apparently he is also lauded as a Hung Gar practitioner as well.... also for the wrong reasons. The legend is an ascended fanboy. He loves martial arts, so it isn't really weird that he tries to learn all that he loves.

[@josiahreynolds7501]

Gabriel Saldanha That’s interesting. Which fight was it?

[@langying]

You know. That actually makes me like the guy even more

[@thomasspotzl4240]

I've heard "wing chun" translated means "missunderstanding fighting".

[@Gamerdude18isback]

8:18 Never have I seen Ramsey so disgusted or disappointed looking.

[@goodiesohhi]

That's one hell of a cringing face.

[@Skuffed_Skuff]

that steven seagal training sesh was brilliant lol

[@MrPlastyfikator]

Jon Jones uses more Wing Chun than Silva ever did. Dirty tricks like eye gouging and oblique kicks to set up punches or keep opponent at bay? That's Wing Chun 101, friends. Isn't there a rule now that forbids pointing your fingers in the direction of your opponent's face? If yes then Jon single-handedly made Wing Chun guard banned. Absolute hero ;)

[@Jbzero999]

People who can't fight: 'Hey look! Wing Chun.' People who can fight: 'Hey look, an ass whuppin.'

[@lukedasambodie457]

I don’t even watch a lot of fighting, let alone be an expert judge, and even I could tell Anderson was getting whooped in those moments 😂

[@callumbiasnow4825]

I actually think he won that fight, even though the judges didn’t. That wing Chung was pretty ineffective though

[@joonashannila8751]

You can be anything on the internet man

[@charlesbetancourt7337]

The punches barely grazed him. He did like ali and laughed at Bisbing in that exchange. This is the fight where anderson knocked out bisping with a knee ,then they called the fight back claiming bisping was looking for his mouthpiece.

[@ShovelChef]

I didn't expect to laugh so hard! 😂 I love Anderson Silva, as any sane fighter or fan would. But I'd totally forgotten about the Bisping fight. I'm fine with any technique that's proven to work, but using a losing battle as proof? That's comic gold. Looking at it again, Silva is using a lot of head movements like a boxer, _in addition_ to the _maybe_ Wing-Chun-inspired sticky hands and parrying attempts. _Attempts_ at parrying. In his better moments-- in almost any fight but this one-- when he looks like a Kung Fu _Movie_ Master, he also reminds me of Saenchai-- not merely relying on his hands, but his footwork and his whole body placement. Wing Chun might teach these principles as well, as many fighting styles do. If it doesn't, well… here's what we get.

[@josiahreynolds7501]

Thank you so much for addressing this. Those clips always confused me as well

[@drmikesimpson]

Thank you for addressing this. Every time I ask a Wing Chun practitioner for any proof that their art is effective, I get "Anderson Silva!" immediately thrown back.

[@RawDoggin_78]

You just changed my entire view of that video by 180 degrees.

[@bucharest50044]

Anderson did win that fight. And I know why Bisping got the decision. They were in London, it's just that simple. Not many people on this planet could get a decision on Bisping there.

[@PaschanTOPs]

I had that fight 3 rounds Bisping 2 rounds Silva. Silva was playing around too much.

[@bucharest50044]

I had it the other easy. At the end of this video the guy even said he had Silva winning. I don't believe it's a coincidence that bisping has never lost there. To get the W from him there, you're going to have to leave him unconscious.

[@bucharest50044]

@@PaschanTOPs After watching this fight, I do believe GSP would have got him if they would have fought when they were supposed to.

[@infesticon]

When you bring up counter striking I think that looks way cooler than wing chun is suposed to. The getting out of the way of a punch and having your best punch hit that's freaking awesome!

[@chocomalk]

If there is a position of martial arts ambassador it should be you.

[@MrBizteck]

Yep Ive minus intrest in fighting. But some how I found this channel .... subbed 6 months ago and watch about once a fortnight. !!!

[@perrenchan6600]

Hey man, great video. Not going to lie, I was a sucker for when that video was released. But as I watched more your videos and others, I became more aware so thank you. In terms of the wing chun, I think one thing often neglected or forgotten is the fact you need to drive forward. As you said, wing chun uses trapping. The wing chun principle of simultaneous defense and offense is more about being able to move forward in a way to take minimal damage whilst at the same time setting up a position of power (the offensive side). Once close, wing chun has a series of close quarters strikes and loose grapples that can be used. This for me is the true reason for learning the concept of the one inch punch. Learning the idea of using body mechanics to generate striking force in a limited range. So wing chun is primarily about bridging the gap and position of control. My personal experience, I managed to pull off a wing chun block and trap before transition into a non sophisticated rugby tackle xD (still wanting to continue experimenting)

[@beegie90]

When will Flaco be on the show

[@gorila_albino]

have you worked with the black dragon fighting society or the international martial arts associations?

[@RamseyDewey]

Wasn’t that the organization that allegedly held Fank Dux infamous kumite?

[@gorila_albino]

@@RamseyDewey yeah i was just messing arround.

[@ernestrimbeck7630]

8:02 Right when you said "this is what we need to focus on" Anderson is getting smashed in the face 😂

[@PaschanTOPs]

Lol

[@pz3_blackpz3_black60]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 XD

[@stephanwatson7902]

"I am try to fight like Bruce Lee. You watch you see, I am using his techniques" Anderson Silva interview on KZbin. Explains why he fights right handed southpaw. But Silva plays and experiments, I wouldn't advise copying. Just read jkd and fight the best way for yourself

[@RTPJu]

Anderson Silva learned WC from the wrong master... he should have studied with Master Wong lol

[@starwise2005]

Yeah you're right,he would have been much better and a chance if he would have been training with Master Wong, Master Wong goes hard in his Wing Chun!💯

[@k.j.meijer4819]

Anderson would bang Bang BANG master wong for sure.

[@goodbuy7556]

I also am not expert in wing chun and cannot claim anything, but there is this guy Sayf Carmen(I would really suggest you to take a look at his channel). He trained in boxing, BJJ, karate, *wing chun* And he said that Wing Chin is wrong understood, and I believe it only because same thing happen to karate, he said that goal in wing chun is not to fancy trap arms like on movies or on nowday drills, instead it should look like Jon Jones vs Thiago Santos fight. Just simple trapping arm and rushing, creating angles, *hitting with the elbow, knee, feet...*

[@squirrelbong]

wingchun lacks the efficiency it thinks it has. WC students are taught attack+defense at the same time under the guise that it's more efficient. Yet going 'hand for hand' is nearly impossible in a real fight, which is why you see all these WC fighters just raising their arms out like frankenstein when the action starts. They don't know how to slip or duck punches, instead they want to reach out for every punch and try to 'parry' or 'block' it but they are always a second behind. I call it 'chasing hands' and you can see it pop up in just about any WC vs X or WC 'sparring ' videos. Trying to go hand for hand WC style is about as realistic as being able to grab punches mid-air aikido style.

[@ISZAudio]

Chasing hands is something highly discouraged in any kwoon worth its salt. You're supposed to intercept only when it would be effective to intercept. Too many kwoons focus too heavily on trapping and think it's the be all end all. I agree with your analysis here, but that's not a fault of Wing Chun, it's a fault of shitty Sifus who don't know what they're teaching.

[@johntaylor7496]

One of the most important things youve taught us all is that when you address someone as Sifu...be prepared for a cab ride. Thank you.

[@wilsonlee63]

Thanks sir good observations, I was in a Wing Chun class at 15 & you usually needs to stand within a feet away to practice sticky hands is just to prevent an opponent from firing a punch at you. Which in my opinion almost nobody would at that very close proximity with any power unless it's an upper cut.... to me just like Tai Chi.

[@J3Cho]

My analysis of WC blocks in the video In Adam Willis’s video , there are 5 separate parts which show WC blocks being used. Part 1 0:07-0:17 Bisping threw : Left punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Right punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Left Front kick (not clear in footage but most likely Silva got hit by it) Left punch (blocked) Right punch (blocked) Left punch (Silva dodged) Part 2 1:45-2:00 Bisping threw Left punch (blocked) Right punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Left punch (blocked) Part 3 5:00- 5:30 Bisping IN FACT use his left hand to TRAP silva’s hand and threw a Right punch (landed) Left punch (landed but only scratches Silva) Left punch (landed) Right body shot (not clear in footage but most likely landed) Left kick (landed) Left punch (landed) Right punch (blocked) Left kick (landed) Left punch (Silva Dodged) Part 4 5:37-5:40 Bisping threw a Left low kick (hit) Left punch (miss because it fell short of the target) Right Punch (miss because it fell short of the target) Left punch (miss because it fell short of the target) Right high kick (blocked) Part 5 5:42-5:47 Bisping threw a Right punch (miss) Left punch (landed) Left punch (blocked) Right punch (landed) In Ramsey’s video (Silva : Patron Saint of Wing Chun), he only shows part 3 and 5 where Silva was hit. He did not show Part 1,2,4 where Silva successfully blocked Bisping attacks.

[@drewcasper4608]

I think Anderson won it too

[@billmurray7676]

You and the guy who did the video seem to be confused about the "moving arms" part : that's not Wing Chun, those moves are "52 blocks". You know, the prison martial art. And Silva is pretty obvious about it. I think the video just tried to show how Silva applies some Wing Chun moves and that's it, so in the end your whole argument about winning and losing is irrelevant. That makes the video also irrelevant to anyone who's not interested in Wing Chun.

[@thelenardjourney8525]

You’re right but Anderson wasn’t really damaged. His face didn’t have a mark, whilst bisbing was cut badllly

[@MrBizteck]

Hater Sensei Grandmaster Chosen One. Thats cannon now !!

[@Ronon878]

Just because he got hit using wing Chun doesn't mean it's a useless system. By that logic, boxing would be useless too because boxers get hit while using conventional Western boxing defenses like slipping, bobbing and weaving, etc. You're right that boxing is more effective, but that doesn't mean wing Chun and other traditional martial arts are useless!

[@yeetman4953]

Wing chun just has the wrong focus.

[@johngun7418]

People just aren't fast enough to block like martial arts like wing chun teaches against trained fighters or anyone that has any kind of speed and doesn't throw just one punch at a time. I also notice that they teach their students ineffectual stances that don't allow them to generate power, are flat footed, and make it real easy to knock them off balance. There's no head movement or lateral movement at all and they're too squared up. They're taught to stand their ground and move in a straight line which is not smart if your fighting a stronger/bigger opponent. Someone like Anderson Silva can make it work somewhat (and he fails alot) because he also knows alot of other shit but even then it's not like he's trapping the way you're supposed to. Hell, I've never seen a wing chun fighter outside the movies ever pull it off, maybe one block and then everything falls apart once they're techniques get stress tested.

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

Take a wing Chun class and find out and improve the art from there and inject your ideas. All martial arts work with a little bit of your philosophy.

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

@kommisar why have you tried it or you just saying that because you could not understand the art? People who say that wing Chun sucks. It's like a boxer who laughs at an MMA fighter because they can't fight.

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

@kommisar better suckier fighter? Ok. Maybe he should take swordfighting it has a street application too right?

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

@kommisar yeah, yeah. Blah blah blah. Because most wc you see in videos don't know how to apply it in a real fight. Real practioners know how to damage people. You see it in a controlled environment. Remove all the rules this time. They can eye gouge. Kick in the balls and most of all no gloves . Plus elbows too. Make sure there is ambulance outside whoever wants a challenge. Remember real martial artists don't have to prove anything. Anderson Silva uses it and Chuck Liddel knows kempo a cousin of wing Chun. He is a UFC champ . Imagine the UFC removes the rules. I bet you he can end the fight in two seconds. But he likes to do a sport with rules ok.

[@thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486]

@kommisar Gosh. You watch to many videos. Too much talk. Why don't you study the art more closely. You watch to many UFC fights. Or You tube videos that sometimes are staged. You too long winded to give me a good argument. Ever take any martial arts? Or boxing. Too much keyboard typings softens your wrists.lol

[@randymuaythai492]

coach do you have Harry goodridge fighting a smaller guy. I forgot his name. n rear naked choke garry in standing position n garry tap out?

[@tulio84z]

People just want real life to be like in the movies. I really think that is the case

[@danieltrevino7400]

Wing Chun was the first martial art discipline that I trained in. I still practice sections 1-4 on the wooden dummy for meditative practice but I do not plan on using this for fighting. I now train in Muay Thai, boxing, BJJ, and MMA at a gym called Ohana Academy. I like Wing chun but I am honest about my training as well.

[@sankadill]

I think El Cucuy uses more Wing Chun and practice it more than anyone els in mma ATM

[@basteagui]

you are right about this, and about wing chun. but i have a technique that woulda worked on bisping. it's called inside gunting. bisping wasn't even that fast throwing, anderson was way off his game [ps> that move i mentioned is not chinese, so don't call me 'out on my bullshido'. it's from the phillipines and it works. and no i am not filipino. i learned it from benny urquidez, dan inosanto and paul vunak and later adapted it to work as a counter. btw you can save your criticism on vunak for someone who cares. he is one of the first to criticize wing chun and the way he adapts it shows that much]

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

Hater-Sensei Grandmaster Chosen One....that sounds good. So you are training all the haters on the internet? where can i sign up XD I want to earn my black belt in hating.

[@Ebvardh]

I have a question. I did Tang Soo Do for a few years, and instead of blocking, they taught us closed fist deflections with the forearms (that could also double as strikes btw). I haven't fought or competed a lot outside of TSD but these moves were pretty useful within that style. I was wondering: What merit you see to this system of defense? Deflecting as opposed to blocking?

[@scrmnthn5233]

Fight a boxer. I promise you you won’t be able to see his punches coming to give you enough time to deflect. Even if you can there’s still weaknesses to exploit with using deflections. If they work for you in the octagon, great. Keep doing it. But don’t let it replace blocks entirely. Mma is more about finding your own style than doing other styles. A punch is a punch and a kick is a kick

[@seizuakahoshi923]

Even if martial arts like wingchun, taichi, ect. Used by some super qualified fighter and it works, doesn't make all the practitioner of that martial arts can do what that qualified fighters does... its them not you* (*the practioners) learn from the qualified fighter train like them then you can do what they do... stop exagerating 1 person that does your martial art super well and said "my martial art works look at this 1 person bla bla" if only 1 or few person can do it is not very practical isn't it?

[@M_K-Bomb]

I will admit that comment brought back memories. I learnt (Japanese) Ju-Jitsu from a big, tough and well egotistical teacher/sense. He worked in security and had that as an example of him defending himself. The stuff I learnt was absolute garbage! It's like the guy could defend himself because he was a big, tough guy, nothing amazing there.

[@seizuakahoshi923]

@@M_K-Bomb oh man that teacher type is really annoying, sometimes when i see martial arts school in my town i really questioning the qualification of the teacher like those guys doesn't know how to teach people, this is my personal opinion to become a martial arts teacher not only you have to master the art itself but you have to atleast got some basic teaching skill and etiquete like a school teacher i mean you can't just show some moves and hoping your students will able to do that as well right?

[@M_K-Bomb]

@kommisar Oh yeah, I agree. But, I would argue even further that some styles are really specific to types of people of different body types but the teacher wouldn't give any different type of advice or training for them. There are styles for long-distance fighting which isn't as good for a short person to use to their advantage. And, are fast-moving styles which don't take advantage of a heavier person who could use their weight to throw stronger heavier punches. Combat sport fighting can be a lot better because they know exactly that different fighters fight differently. I even heard of a Judo guy who was small and trained to avoid being thrown more than performing his own throws, and he ended up being a really efficient fighter.

[@samuraiisalmighty4917]

Seizu Akahoshi it is

[@bobbyhill4118]

The most effective martial art is the one you train. Personally, if I was in any combat scenario with any human or animal, I’d fight them with the power it’d take to save my own life. I’ve been training with a spear and I’ve been working out as well, and I noticed that I can rapidly accelerate that spear to the point in which I can stick a hardened wooden point almost a quarter inch through a pine 2x4, which would translate into immense punching power. Training hand eye coordination and shielding from oncoming strikes can also save you from not only just getting knocked out when clipped on the chin, but disoriented and unable to fight because of a concussion. Strikes to the head/jaw won’t always knock you out. They can make you see a flash of light and feel kind of drowsy, maybe a bit dizzy and tired, but you won’t be unconscious. You’ll get tackled and stomped out once they’ve hit you there as well. I also like sprinting and I can take advantage of my speed too. Not one man will be able to fight off 4 or 5 people. I’d also recommend getting a gun or a knife, just a small razor sharp one for the purpose of self defense too, and learn a bit about human anatomy and about the brain, each part’s significance in giving the person a collective, operational, sensing conscious as well as exactly how a human is made and how every part of a human works.

[@nope7684]

I dislike the effort by traditional martial arts fans to claim fighters to their 'cause'. It's an underhanded tactic in trying to bring legitimacy to ineffective styles. The 1 percent of the time a fighter lands something from a bruce lee movie its proof of the effectiveness of (Insert traditional martial art here) yet the styles utilized 99% of the time (BJJ, wrestling, boxing, etc) are flat out ignored or deemed comparable.if a style is effective, there is no reason one should have to cherrypick and sift through hours of footage to prove its advantageous in a fight.

[@LoganMaclaren]

Misconceptions and misunderstandings go hand to hand. I'm not a fighter. Actually, nowadays I'm not even an athlete, for all that it was worth back in the day. But I remember well people from other combat sports talking how feeble, weak and dumb judo was (to the point that I, myself, doubt about it efectiveness) and how contrasting it was with my experience (I remember VERY well one time that I tried to avoid a throw and I end up falling on my neck, how it hurt and how afraid I was of some kind of lesion to my spine - all the while training on the mats, not concrete). I'm convinced that people see what they want to see, with very little neutrality and reason. Thanks to bring up this topic, and keep up the great work!

[@ramonmercado6039]

Ramsey you obviously are a novice at wing Chun as one of the main principles are being punched in the face while making a sticky chin to break your opponent's knuckles. This was done to perfection in this highlight real too bad the matches aren't traditional 38 round fights like in true wing Chun.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

But to be fair you can also say that anyone using a style of karate is also using wing Chun as well 🤷

[@oneguy7202]

Aderson Silva broke bisping nose and ko him I called this a robbery, Silva trained JFK and wing Chun in women clips with inosado but never use it in the cage, the only traditional art that used in the cage was muay boran

[@scarred10]

He never trained John F. Kennedy

[@notmyname3681]

What a well timed vid! Just answered a random fellow elsewhere who asked me why I believe sparring is essential in learning to fight (no, really). Turns out he believes Chi Sao teaches you everything that sparring can and is 'more sophisticated'. With the added benefit that it doesn't hurt. In learning to fight. *sigh*

[@roichir7699]

Just for the intro you deserve a like. For the rest too, but I can only give one. Thanks for the laugh.

[@nuechternheit]

What do you think about the spiritual aspects of Qi Gong, Shaolin, Wing Chun and Tai Chi? They involve movements that are supposed to strengthen the flow of chi and make it usable. In example for hardening the body to break iron bars with the head. Do you think the same result could be achieved without spiritual training but rather pure exercise and body conditioning?

[@jeffreywright2294]

Yes Anderson should of slipped and then countered

[@jeffreywright2294]

Thank you

[@jeffreywright2294]

Yes

[@McFangsworth]

On the topic of Wing Chun: any opinions on Alan Orr and his brand of the martial art?

[@Davyen]

Wing Chun does not work, because most of the movements are pretty unnatural. Even fighting stance. In neutral stance you have toes pointed inwards, which is actually not good for your knees. A stance with one leg in front is also ridiculous, because you need your rear leg twisted, all your weight on it and you're not supposed to raise your heel from the ground. So you can't be light and quick on legs. Trust me, I know this stuff, I wasted a year and a lot of money on it.

[@valerioligato6874]

I think that you found one of those so called "Wing Chun" schools. I am a practitioner too, and i assure you that i don't use those stances, mainly because them are just exercises stances, not really sparring or fighting stances.

[@nobsherc]

Never done Wing Chun, but from what I've seen looks similar to Kyokushin karate stance and Kyokushin isn't something that you can say hasn't been pressure tested

[@Davyen]

@@valerioligato6874 Yes, that was the only available in my city. And they advertise themselves as "practitioners of the only true Wing Chun, lineage from Ip Man himself". You sparr in your school? Oh my. We were "sparring" after 7-8 months, but only tapping shoulders. Which looked like a bad boxing spars.

[@hotpenguin607]

I think Wing Chun is kinda like many other Chinese martial arts, outdated, not adapted to fight on stage unlike many other western styles being constantly used and evolved in the cage It has its place, but learning Wing Chun ONLY is most likely not gonna make u remotely good at fighting For me, I only learned it for a month because I found my Sifu to be a bad fighter If Chinese Kung Fu masters can forget about "losing faces" and actually try to evolve their style on stage, we are gonna see a new world in half a century

[@valerioligato6874]

@@Davyen yeah i know that feel, here in my region the greatly most of the schools are of a federation that modified Wing Chun in a way that if possible makes It even worse taught and used, they never spar and think that conditioning and athletic preparation are useless, i'll let you imagine how bad fighters they are

[@Helltown66]

I knew Anderson Silva was an expert in Muay Thai and had dabbled in JKD along with other typical martial arts an MMA fighter would study but I never realize he started out with Taekwondo and had done so many martial arts before.

[@AlexanderGent]

Baiting to come in... Sounds a bit like Aikido ;)

[@RamseyDewey]

Give all the credit to Steven Seagal, of course.

[@Eidenhoek]

To be fair, the wing chun dummy is the objectively coolest dummy to work with. Got all those spikes and spinning bits.

[@ardynizunia9709]

I LOVE how these people have no clue and actually shoot themself in the foot. Seriously, I have no clue of Wing Chun and not a lot of knowledge of MMA, but I have been in fights in my life so I felt like it was OBVIOUS that this "highlight" clip was going bad for Anderson.

[@MrBilej]

Your thumbnails are another kind of art man!

[@HUEnshiro_do_Norte]

Shock of reality. Just like that!

[@luckeynumbr6]

Would be kind of interested to hear your thoughts/see your analysis on Tony Ferguson on his fight with Donald Cerrone. Similar circumstances leading up as this here, but different outcome.

[@FILIPFIXTIGER]

Love your sarcasam.

[@itsmrfire2512]

Ramsey Dewey wich submission did you learn the first?

[@RamseyDewey]

The triangle choke... and I learned it wrong several times before I learned it right.

[@connorsmith8400]

I have bin doing MMA for the past year but I'm really interested in some traditional martial like Jkd what are u thought on Jkd if u don't mind me asking

[@bartronflatearth6912]

Is not traditional.. go with Ted Wong instructors, he was the last student of Bruce

[@lancepabon]

I remember when I was in the navy. I was training american freestyle karate (which was basically kickboxing) I saw one of the guys from my outfit, practicing kun fu, with the whole attire. One day I ask him if we could spar, I always love to test my skills against other styles( it's the only way to know if it works). He asked me what my style was, and l told him AFSK, he asked me what it was, and I told him that we practice figthing using kicking an punching, but no forms(katas) or traditional salutes. He said to me that that wasn't real martial arts and never agree to spar(that was 35 years ago). Until this day I wonder how do you know if you can fight if you never spar???

[@THEBRO1811]

Ramsey’s opinion on silva vs stylebender?

[@modernrider1398]

Well I will admit I was one of those commenters. Upon listening to you dismantle that same video that I saw you hep me understand more about what I’m looking at. I’m not a fighter but I’m looking to start training in something and I’ve always liked wing chun so I have a bias. Upon watching your videos lately you’ve opened my eyes to some things I didn’t understand about actual fighting and defense.

[@alvein10]

what about Tony Ferguson? can you do the same analyse about his wing chun?