Supro Delta King - The BEST Living Room Amps?!

[@Marcmcilroy]

Captain ( THE VIBRATO VIPER 🐍) Great opening as always guys. And Pete is fire 🔥 as always

[@bonhamite4313]

Captains playing blew me away today, what a player! And Pete is just out of this world! 🤘🤘

[@BASILEMOJO]

lol Captain play like a noob;;he always be a noob because he has no talent whatsoever

[@briancashious4771]

Captain, you're killing it in the beginning! That vibrato is legendary.

[@IGrocker]

Cap, between your massive improvements the past few years and also listening to Pete, you’ve both inspired me to continue playing for lengths of time I haven’t done since high school. It’s been an inspiration you watch you guys!

[@legacyShredder1]

One thing that will take any guitar player's ability to the next level is focusing in on basic rhythmic subdivisions. From your basic quarter, eighth, and sixteenth notes to triplets in quarter, eighth, sixteenth, and so on. Check out some snare drum rudiments here on KZbin and apply the note values to your playing. You can sound like a pro over night.

[@kewlfonz]

@@legacyShredder1 Don't forget the polyrhythms especially over slow 12/8 blues...

[@funhousebaby3104]

@@kewlfonz Yes bro! Polyrhythms like Radiohead??????? If you match the timing and (important) amount of strokes you use while masturbating over 'Chappers and Cappers' your audience will automatically gush with musical envy fluid. Usually this happens after two bars of 5/3.

[@michaelstone7514]

These guys are great together. Just proves the point, you don't need to play a billion notes a second to kick ass. Simple blues licks with great tone and beautiful phrasing always carries the day!

[@stavfirst]

Right on!

[@craigbragg2842]

I just bought a Supro Blues King 12 this past weekend. It is, for all intents and purposes, the Delta King without the racing stripes. I absolutely love it. Such great tones and versatility. In fact, it was The Captain and Danish Pete's 2019 review of small valve amps that convinced me to get it! Thanks, gentlemen!

[@jamesmarcin4787]

I had my Supro BK12 for over a year now. Fantastic amp and gets better as the speaker gets more broken in. Enjoy 😁👍

[@AuntAlnico4]

Yeah and has any one else noticed how loud that thing is !? Mines freaking loud for 15 watts and 12 inch speaker is loud enough to use in a full band!!!!

[@craigbragg2842]

@Howardsend88, well the main deciding factor was I got an extremely good buy on it. But I had been looking at the Blues King for a while. I have another Supro amp and have enjoyed it a lot, so I thought I’d give the Blues King a go. I’m glad I did. I like its unique tone. But it’s not so unique as to limit its versatility in multiple settings. It takes pedals nicely as well. I definitely recommend it.

[@jamesmarcin4787]

@@craigbragg2842 , that's why I bought it as well. Sweetwater had it for a price of $299 during their Black Friday Sale right before they went discontinued. I just had to get it. Its fantastic 👍

[@craigbragg2842]

@@jamesmarcin4787, I missed out on that sale, but picked up a mint used one for less than that. So I’m not complaining.

[@chadb8093]

I have the Delta King 10 and these sound immense in person. You would be surprised by how much air these little guys can push around a room. Great playing and great demo as always!

[@tomwhittaker9461]

Cool dude! Yes, these seem to be pretty sweet amps. Do you think the 10 can be tamed enough for living room playing, while still sounding good?

[@chadb8093]

@@tomwhittaker9461 these things sound great at living room levels - definitely depends on the type of pickups you’re running through it but it takes the humbuckers in my les Paul especially well through the clean channel. Single coil pickups can sound a bit boxy so I tend to stick with the les Paul when I play through it. The in-built reverb does wonders for adding dimension at any rate

[@FlankinspanK]

played a billie joe armstrong les paul junior through one and loved it

[@JC-DC]

I just got the Delta King 10 and I love it. Beautiful clean tones, very touch sensitive, great dirty tone for slide. I'm glad I got this instead of a Fender pro jr or blues jr. I've had them both and this is much better. I definitely recommend it for an apartment or a small gig.

[@hanswolfhausen8347]

I have the Delta King 10 in special addition white. Love the amp. Makes a good practice amp in the bedroom.

[@dracul74]

Great tones. I’ve been selling off my modelers and returning to low watt amps... honestly couldn’t be happier.

[@grayaj23]

I paid like $180 US for a Vox AC4TV / ca. 2010 model. Between it an a Laney amp, I haven't touched the Katana in months. I still love it, but it's not where my head is at right now.

[@dracul74]

@@grayaj23 Nice! I owned and sold that amp years ago.... wish I kept it.

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

I keep coming back to this video for the intro jam as it is great tone cranking out of these little amps!!!

[@ClayAllred]

Jam out: It's got to be hard to play next to Pete, but Cap's got some chops! Well done fellas.

[@CMHobbies]

Play with someone like Pete, you’ll improve loads. I think that’s part of what happened with the Cap.

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

That intro jam is killer!!! One of the bests tone I have ever heard!!!!!!

[@chrisjones8977]

Pete your playing has improved 1000%. You sound KILLER. Great job!!!!!

[@chrisjones8977]

I meant that for the Captain.

[@joshgarland9176]

Perfect timing for this video -- been looking at getting a Delta King 12!

[@scottbailey11]

Awesome review and playing, as always! However, you missed the best feature: The Line Out is designed to be run into the front end of another amp! I run the line out of my Delta King 10 into the front end of my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and it's amazing. You can also turn the Master volume down on the Supro if you just want to hear the secondary amp or turn it up and hear both. It's something you must try if you have one of these Supro amps! : ) Rock on!

[@zedwarddogg]

Thanks, Scott, I’ve a Blues King and didn’t realise I could use it for that. This’ll be hours of fun! 👍

[@scottbailey11]

@@jarrydwilliams237 Indeed! 😀 Because the line out is between the pre amp and power amp, it allows for a lot of cool options. You can even just use the pre amp as an awesome pedal in front of your favorite "big" amp...fun times!

[@scottbailey11]

@@zedwarddogg 👍🏻Definitely lots of fun! Did you work out any cool combinations?

[@mikeseder9385]

heck yeah...thanks Scott!

[@trashcat1031]

Hello Scott. I'm new to tube/valve amps and was thinking of getting one of these. I have a question though. What results would you get if you took the DK line out to the FX return of another amp and how would the outcome be different then the method you are suggesting in your comment? Thanks.

[@sac4003]

I put a Celestion Creamback in my 12 and it sounds awesome. Gave me a bit more clean headroom with more girth to the tone. Love this amp with my Strat and 335 for smaller gigs.

[@JaredSchumaier]

Which model Celestion helped add some more headroom?

[@sac4003]

@@JaredSchumaier Alnico Creamback is what I used.

[@JaredSchumaier]

@@sac4003 I’m going to try that too. Did you try using a 12au7 instead of the ax7?

[@aapddd]

The cap10 totally rocking 🔥 hell, that's probably one of the best vibrato technique I ever heard.

[@PaulPauliePabloPaolo]

The Capt. has been practicing!. ;). The vibrato at the start was special!.

[@SlightlyDiminished]

A good tip for getting more clean or usable volume a low wattage amp is to put a tube overdrive pedal set clean into the amp with the gain and volume on the amp around 3 or 4. Use the pedal for setting the volume. I run a Hiwatt tube distortion pedal into my little turd Bugera v5 this way with a Wampler Belle od and a Way Huge Saucy Box as my drives. It's 100% more usable. Feels like a bigger amp.

[@justsomeguynamedrob]

You can disconnect the internal speaker and connect to a bigger cab. I connect my Delta 10 to a Marshall 1965a 4x10 and it sounds massive. Been contemplating converting the amp into a head.

[@frankieconcepcion7860]

Been waiting for this one for a while! Really digging the 12 as a little 6L6 monster

[@thomasgrepne5638]

Captains playing is testament that you dont need flashy speed. Just the wonderfully controlled bends and vibrato are so pleasing, to the point that you dont want to hear any speed

[@killelectric]

I think you can probably gig with the 12", but these amps are primarily geared towards home playing or home studio recording. You can get that classic broken up tube amp sound at a neighbour friendly volume. I've got a Supro Comet (10") and its the best sounding recording amp I've ever owned.

[@tjnugent62]

Lee you are smoking on that solo. Your playing is getting so much better. DP is a good influence for you.

[@chrisjs6123]

That harmony is a thing of great beauty.

[@williamarnold8845]

I got mine yesterday with the bigsby and although it's only been a day I'm totally in love with it.

[@gavinw5469]

@@williamarnold8845 wait until honeymoon phase with the bigsby is over lol.

[@williamarnold8845]

@@gavinw5469 The guitar has locking tuners on it, but I'm aware of the issues with the Bigsby.

[@chrisjs6123]

@@williamarnold8845 congratulations. I got a Juno recently and am amazed at how good it is. Am fortunate to own quite a few nice guitars and they all sit in their cases as I’m also totally in love. The pickups are wonderful. Gonna have to get the Bigsby too.

[@AuntAlnico4]

I've got the 2017 Gibson version called the firebird zero in Pelham blue and people hated so bad on this guitar but now it's made by harmony and way more expensive, now it's awesome 🤔 go figure 😝

[@bloke2201]

Actually looks like a radio from the 30's or 40's, VERY old school. I love it!

[@JedrekVRoscoe]

I have the Delta King 12, and it is my favorite amp so far! Really, really good.

[@JaredSchumaier]

Does it take pedals well?

[@JedrekVRoscoe]

@@JaredSchumaier yes, it does. It’s a very clean and clear sound, but with a slight warmth in characteristic-clean enough to be great for all types of pedals, not warm enough to color the sound too much for pedals. It’s not like a super “sterile” sound like a Katana or JHS “Loud is more Good” amps which make those perfect for pedals. TLDR: yes, great for pedals.

[@JaredSchumaier]

@@JedrekVRoscoe glad to hear that! I have one on the way and look forward to running it through the paces. Some folks say they need to change out the speaker or try a different preamp tube. Have you had to do that with yours?

[@JedrekVRoscoe]

@@JaredSchumaier no, mine is stock, and I love it

[@JaredSchumaier]

@@JedrekVRoscoe awesome!! Now I’m even more excited to rip on this thing in a few days! lol

[@judewessel5713]

After not watching for a few years (sorry guys, life got hard lol) it’s amazing to me how much Lee has improved since I started watching in like 2016! Awesome to hear and see

[@mrbigg7255]

The 12 would be perfect at church where the drummer is somewhat isolated. Thinking about getting rid of my drive pedals and running two amps with an a/b/y pedal. My clean will be my hot rod deluxe which is barely on 3 while plugged into input number one. I could see the Supro adding to my tone big time. It’s using a 6L6 is a plus since I have plenty of them in my stash for the hot rod. Great review guys.

[@guscampbell2098]

I just played 2 gigs this weekend with the Delta King 12, and it held up like a champ. I cranked the master up and used the volume control to dial it in. Not a ton of headroom (compared to my Fender ‘68 deluxe) but it sounded amazing mic’d up for the front of house. It’s the tiny vintage-esque recording amp sound that you can take on stage and have some flexibility.

[@joelcamp5445]

I just played my Champ in my living room this weekend ;)and it held up like a Delta King....... ;)

[@AuntAlnico4]

My Blues King 12 is so freaking loud 👍 it's insane ! No way that's 15 watts because I've got a Marshall DSL 15 head into a Marshall 212 cabinet and it's loud but not as loud as my Supro BK12 🤷‍♀️ it's 1 12 inch speaker !

[@TheHifiEnvelope]

That tele clean sounds incredible through the 10. Very nice pairing.

[@tjnugent62]

The Fiesta Red Squier Custom Tele is the bee's kneez. Was this something Anderton's sold as a limited edition?

[@jeffreymorreale7223]

I've been watching Andertons older vlogs and the Captain has always been pretty amazing and soulful. That's why I can't understand when people say he's really improved. From what I've seen, his touch and rhythm were there from the beginning.

[@davidlee2790]

Exactly. It’s nice to compliment someone’s playing but at some point constantly commenting ‘improvements’ comes across as somewhat patronising 😬. Lee is a great player. End of.

[@AuntAlnico4]

My DKing 12 has so much clean headroom and bass response that I had to put a higher gain 12ax7 in to super it up a little !

[@burt2800]

Loved that opening solo by the captain! Very tasteful vibrato and bends

[@Musecrafter]

Outstanding jam session guys!

[@USMarine75]

I love seeing Lee play my rig. My living room setup has been your orange Andertons LE Squier through a Supro Delta King 12. Pro tip: You can use the preamp out through a power amp and cab. And when you adjust the MV it controls how much the Delta King is in the mix with the other amp/cab. I use it with a Fryette PS2 and Fender Showman 115 can and together it's glorious!

[@kennethlinton4432]

Pete's playing just gets better and better!

[@johnhardage2307]

I bought the Supro Delta King 12 today. Fantastic !

[@michaeltravis3562]

I started using the 12 in a wet/dry rig for home recording . I previously used a swart space tone and Morgan pr12 for this purpose, but I prefer the delta king to both of those. The Supro has a wonderful “something” to it that I cannot describe in words. It just feels right under my fingers and puts a grin on my face. I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed in the 12. There are “all white” and “all black” versions around if the Adidas stripes offend your eyes.

[@gslide06]

How well does the line output work direct into your DAW - any degradation in tone?

[@michaeltravis3562]

It’s really good straight into my interface. I use Logic Pro (and a few plug ins) to get cab/room tones. I have a dedicated studio so I can play loud and mic the cab, too. I find the output straight into an interface/daw is capturing the best attributes of this amp. That’s to say the sonic character of the speaker/cab is “good” but not so good that you’ll miss it. It’s nothing special. The OD, boost, pre, and power amp section is 90% of this amp’s magic in my opinion. You get all that with direct output.

[@gslide06]

Thanks for the reply Michael, that sounds fantastic.

[@Murphmonster69]

My roommate has the 15 watt version. Real blues JR killer. Great headroom for the size.

[@davidg4726]

I have 2 Bugeras, and they are really great for a low price. So, I can recommend a Bugera amp. I have also had a Fender Blues Junior, and it is more expensive, but great.

[@johnjgibson6807]

Love The Demo Videos without them is like Not Having My Big Glass Of Tea So Keepem Coming 👍👍🎶🎶🎸

[@timothydesimone6380]

Sick! That had to be one of my favorite opening jams of all your videos! You two together are kickass!

[@rhodes7394]

That Epiphone classic looked and sounded amazing!

[@TruGank]

Love that buzzy retro fuzz sound!

[@ivorharden]

I think the high gain Bugera stuff is the best bang for affordability. For me these Supro amps are in a different category all together. They're more in the boutique sector than mass produced.

[@craig.encinitas]

I have the DK 5w amp (10 inch). Just the right size and volume to keep under the desk. My first amp.🎸 🔊

[@jemwand2530]

Guys, both jams in this video were amazing. Captain Lee, the intro jam was fnocking great and the outro jam, you must have been channeling Eddie Hazel's Magott Brain... Supero work Captain, my Captain. bless you.

[@Elijah_vrv]

Nice playing and amps! Just saw Chris Buck video, and thought maybe you could invite Barrie Cadogan sometime.

[@JC-DC]

That Oarnge Tele is sweet! You guys are a great team!

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

I love this video!!! Makes me want to buy a supro delta king 12 every time I hear the epic jam going down here!!!!!!!!!

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

I must of been in a deep-deep trance to of missed this amazing tone party 2 years ago!!!!

[@newmanfertig886]

Been watching the s long time. Best jam session yet!!!

[@hamiltonmackenzie3340]

So great to,see you find your groove Captain! Total inspiration to us all, your a star!

[@stickylizardbabyangel]

Nah! I think we’d need something with panache, presence, more colourful, to anchor the sofa and the curtains in the living room! Wait, are we still talking about decoration? Great presentation, mates, full of pertinent info. Pete keeps going over my head in sheer awesomeness. Cap’n has simply become a classy, meaningful soloist. Congratulations, from a longtime fan.

[@tomyates2551]

I like the idea of an amp being considered a “living room amp” - do a shootout between some of the best!? (Chuck in the Mesa boogie California tweed, cause I cannot get we enough of that).

[@portwill]

I really loved captains playing here!! Lovely amps too

[@TaylorsmusicAthensTn.]

Great opening intro!Love these guys!

[@winterjps]

I gotta say, it's great to see how much Lee's playing has improved, I'm really impressed (y)

[@djlane74]

Wowza!!!! Love that opening jam!!! Does the equipment inspire... Yes , yes it does.

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

Great recording amp the 8. For in a nice recording room.

[@jakianasrin2663]

Please do a best "pedal platform amps" shootout. Pleeeeaaaasssseeeee!

[@shaunoleary8740]

Captain really rips at the end of this one! Nice video guys :)

[@DanielLebronTorres]

Nice sound Captain!!! You really brought it with your vibrato. I think I'm going to buy it.

[@ItsJustRyan89]

These are absolutely superb amps/ good enough for Page, good enough for me.

[@andertons]

Which one would you pick? And more importantly, which colour? 😏

[@ItsJustRyan89]

@@andertons 5 watt, Tweed (caramel)- every day of the week. From Anderton’s, of course.

[@petergoddard1960]

@@andertons Delta King 10 in tweed is the one for me!

[@ItsJustRyan89]

@@petergoddard1960 same as me then fella, good taste :-)

[@Tecniconta]

I bought the 10", I changed the speaker for an Eminence from Alessandro, and now the Supro sounds spectacular!!!

[@simonsmith2642]

My main amp is a 30/15 w switchable, and that’s only a 3db drop. I usually find myself gigging at 15w.. But I do use the 30w for bigger venues and I’ve never needed more. They mic me if it’s needed, but it’s never needed. I’ve gigged with a 15w pro jr and was the heard over everybody else. Of course I’m the type that dimes everything all the way and rides my volume knob on the guitar. 15/30w is plenty and 10” speakers are totally under rated and more guitar players should give them a go. They have lots of punch. I really wanted to hear more of the 8” 1w amp, I want a small living room amp that I can crank and get that sound. Really want the old school lunchbox blues tone. Kind of disappointed they didn’t pay much attention to that one.

[@lancere00]

Nice - which amp do you have? I've been wondering about how much wattage I need for playing live with a drummer and bassist. I've got a Vox AC15c1 and I'm not worried about how loud that one is, but it's a beast at almost 50lb. I'm leaning on the Supro DK12 or one of their 25watt models...

[@simonsmith2642]

@@lancere00 I use Valetrain Trenton Pro combo. It’s 30/15w switchable. No complicated stuff. Basic plug in and crank it and play. 15w is plenty depending on your drummer and the space. Having an extra 3db is nice to have if needed but not necessary for me. But it’s not about loud, it’s about being heard in the mix, perceived loudness. Like not competing with the bass amp for the same sonic space. Etc.. But I play Dad blues rock.. Not metal. Hope that helps.

[@lancere00]

@@simonsmith2642 Yeah for sure. Thanks!

[@wojciech2456]

this video doesnt give the delta 8 justice. it’s sounds great in person and have a great led zeppelin sound with all maxed. And cleans sound very rich

[@fredaxmear1121]

Absolutely great blues jam !

[@leryalamar]

captain killing it on the ending jam!!!

[@gerasimosmarkopoulos7177]

Great demo! When it comes to 'gig-ability', is the DK12 as loud as a Vox AC15c1? The reason I'm asking, is that I have no trouble gigging with my AC15. If it's as loud, I'd be reeeeally tempted to pull the trigger on this one.

[@GitShiddy]

Have a Delta King 8 truly is a 1 watt wonder. But in The Capts run through all I could think was "oof, not the best mic choice for that 8' speaker". Honestly Pete running through the 10' demo sounded more like the amp I'm used to. But then that end jam, with context...tiny amps just sound awesome in a mix.

[@jeramym9506]

That single cut sounds soooooo good.

[@benlogan430]

I’ve been using small 1 and 2 watt amps since I realized you can run the line out to the PA and use the lil amp as a guitar monitor. Although not all line outs work this way. So, to answer the question of can you Gig with that, you can gig with a small tube amp if it’s got a line out. Sweet video and cool amps!

[@marv6424]

You guys play so nice :D what a great tone!

[@jordanpratt9384]

Well,I really wanted to hear where pete was gonna go with that gated fuzz.

[@jammergreg]

I met Bruce Zinky in Flgagstaff. Building Zinke and Supro. The Blue velvet was my favorite!

[@jamesmarcin4787]

Sounds great. I bought the BK12 which is basically the same amp without the stripes and with an effects loop and its fantastic. Got it from Sweetwater during their Black Friday special this pass year for $299 which was a steal of a deal.😁👍 Love it.

[@dlewtweentorla1210]

Ditto! Also included the Cover and Footswitch. That was to get rid of the old and make room for the Delta KIng. Have to admit the Delta King does look great in the tweed.

[@mossstephen1066]

Funny how the blues king didn't even get a full Andertons review and was basically overlooked, but now the identical amp with stripes on it is the dogs bllx.

[@frankgeick3641]

Love the format of opening solos. Advantage Danish Pete, but Lee is sooo catching up.

[@Number1Ears]

Ended up buying a Delta 10 because of this review, (in tweed!) it's everything I need for what I do. I love the opening jam, Hey guys, any way i could get a copy of the backing track you used?? It would be great fun to jam to with my delta & P90's

[@cageliner]

I bought a Blues King 8 a year and half ago for $400 CAD (320 US, 232 GBP.) Pricey for a 1W amp, but I paid the same for my DSL1HR and H&K Tubemeister 5 head. I love all my small amps, but the BK8 is the easiest to use for bedroom noodling.

[@Rustymcdangles]

Crazy looking at this now it’s in the $500+ range now

[@MrAnders1976]

I have played guitar on loud gigs with a second guitarplayer bass and drums. I can concur that 15W EL84 with a single 12" will not give you enough clean headroom for a decent clean tone.. But for a driven rock sound no problem when using a loud celestion speaker. I use a 45W EL34 amp with a single 12.. This gives me a loud clean tone as a base tone.

[@nekkon1989]

Maaaan, these amps are lovely, but small cabins will always sound boxy. I love my Bassbreaker 30r in my living room. It is a thing of absolute beauty!

[@AuntAlnico4]

No these don't sound boxy at all because it's the wood they used for the cabinets ! I can't remember what wood it is but they used really nice light wood that resonates better than super hard stiff wood 😜

[@stevehawthorn8733]

Lee's playing sounds so much better nowadays probably just because he's more comfortable playing in front of a camera as to me always seemed very self conscious and now we're seeing what he can really do in these jams when he's more confident with surley more to come.

[@Butterfliesandzebras]

The best way to play this is with the volume on full, and just adjust the pre-amp. This amp is all about the tube. Get that tube HOT and it sounds absolutely amazing. I never use the distortion pedal, but that clean tone is so dynamic and there is so much sensitivity that's all I need to run almost any sound I want

[@posford]

i wish you could review the BRUNETTI amps .

[@piyachansri5719]

The Squier Thinline's part is cool !

[@kewlfonz]

Which Andertons' back track is this you're jamming with? I really like it - Nice and sparse - Perfect for jamming...

[@compucorder64]

I've always loved the sound of these Supro amps. They almost sound like some forgotten Southern Rock coming straight off the vinyl record; like finished recordings. Sounded like that on the affordable tube combo amp roundup ye did a few years back, sounds like long hair, a handlebar moustache and open shirted hairy chest ;) Best living or bedroom amps. But also, best recording amps, with the pre-amp line out, or the low wattage and smaller speakers that don't push buttons of a small room's modes. The line out is nice to have with the cheap IR loader pedals available; or into audio interface then do power amp + cab sim ITB. But, another could be putting it into a pretty clean affordable more powerful power amp (Vox MV50? or SS/Class D). Then into a bigger sounding cab. Then you have a small vibey tube practice and recording amp, that can be converted into something more powerful.

[@RisitasKEKW]

I just got a 60s Standard and they gave me a Supro King 10 for free! I think it sounds nice!

[@spacelab2756]

Lee your guitar playing has really improved since i started watching the channel. Just have to say your work has paid back!!

[@sleepymarauder4178]

Captain did me dirty in the intro. Those were some filthy licks

[@kevinspake7338]

That epiphone Les Paul in the intro sounded surprisingly good.

[@rileyioacura]

They sound incredible for their size and price!!

[@danieldebiaze9379]

The 8 is Old School and has yo be used crancked with a reverb or delay in front added of a low gain OD ( klon like): and there you go! Its a fantastic amp!

[@sephiroth2002]

Killing me with that double bound Tele in orange

[@KozmykJ]

Regarding small amps and gigging. I remember the inimitable Micky Gee using a piggy back Fender Tremolux with 2x10 for a lot of his gigs. Tremolux is rated 15-20 Watts. No problems for him against bass and drums, and Terry Williams is no quiet drummer. And Micky Gee used a lot of clean tones, as Pete probably knows both being Tom Jones related players. Maybe it's that second speaker that makes the difference. Fender Bassbreaker 15 with an extension speaker, giving 2x12, is well loud enough against bass and drums.