New Neural DSP Nano Cortex - Unboxing and Reactions!

[@andertons]

Looking for Pete's Victory Deputy captures?? You'll find them in the "DanishPete" account in the Neural Cloud. No time for long videos? Check out the playing only video on Andertons 2 | kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJTPhaKae9Z2ras

[@JustinZak7]

It’s not been made public.

[@andertons]

@@JustinZak7 (he says it definately is!!)

[@zeluizsn869]

There is nothing on that account.

[@JustinZak7]

@@andertons it wasn’t, but it is now.

[@ZacharyRyanMusic89]

@@JustinZak7 i see youu Justin

[@caydespliff181]

I am forever impressed with guitarists who can take the time to sit and tweak, and capture, and learn all of the ins-&-outs of a unit like this while still having any remaining attention span or creative inspiration to play guitar by the end of it. 😅

[@GoldbuggMusic]

🤣

[@MrAbelone]

Yep!

[@chromebuoy]

I just read the entire manual on the toilet I printed out! 😂

[@PawlikJJP]

Wooow finally version for people who can't afford quad cortex. What a great thing they've added capture option. Now I can capture all the amps that I don't have...

[@SteveC-h6o]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jaqb420]

gold!

[@keleitas150]

You can still download other captures :D it's not that bad even if you don't have the gear It's a shame that it's not also a modeler

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Modeling is DSP processing intensive. They’re watching profit margins. Not saying it’s right. Just explaining why they made this choice. Business decisions are made by business people.

[@Scott__C]

@@sub-jec-tiv I think no screen at all is a miss.

[@MarcoAntonioVega]

Everybody: we want a QC in smaller form factor. Neural DSP: Here is your capture device.

[@wolfgangcordsen3430]

Good point

[@FastRedPonyCar]

It’s literally everything I needed and really nothing more. Only thing I wish it had is the ability to connect a 2 button foot switch to toggle delay and chorus on and off. They should be able to do that with an update but I’m not holding my breath and I’ve got my own pedals I like better to handle those.

[@mallninja9805]

@@FastRedPonyCar So it's literally _not_ everything you needed...

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@@mallninja9805 Nah I mean it would be nice but I bought it knowing what it couldn't do and didn't buy it with the hopes that they could add stuff later.

[@Johnnycoretv]

@@FastRedPonyCar there is! the MC6 Pro! very affordable too

[@jorgeleonel6663]

Ok so in a nutshell : only captures (no modeling on the nano), ships with 25 captures, can store up to 256 neural captures, fixed signal chain with 7 virtual device slots, IR loader with 300 IRs (+ability to store additional 256), adaptive gate & transpose as pre- effects, chorus/analog delay/mind hall reverb as post- effects, boost switch to take captures sound up by up to 26dB, about 500£ price

[@PudWud1]

So there isn’t a built in boost for the front end of the amp?

[@ehiricccc]

Thank you! Very precise for what i need to know. I'll still be on hxstomp for a while for that pro/cons/price

[@DaviSiqueiraSilva]

And no drive block.

[@jasmith85]

@@DaviSiqueiraSilva no screen.

[@PabPapp1]

in a nutshell: modern day POD

[@evansinger4714]

i own a Quad Cortex and now feel bad for everyone who was waiting for a smaller version. What a let down in my opinion.

[@jasmith85]

I just want it to be cheaper £1000+ pre-owned is way way too much for me.

[@noodlehair6566]

I agree. For a smaller unit, I was expecting it to have the same power under the hood at a smaller footprint like the gt1k core

[@mattpearce79]

Just a slightly better Tone X isn't it?

[@Techco1]

I think the ease of captures would push a lot of people into the qc nano camp vs tonex just due to the complexity of getting usable captures. Sure there’s a price difference but this is more aimed at people that use like the boss IR pedals or even the pod express. Price is higher but I think QC’s capture quality/usability without a pc warrants the price.

[@diegoos5202]

Mod section should have the option to choose a tremolo and flanger in addition to the chorus, and pre effects at least one drive pedal. HX stomp uts a better buy

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

I think I would have prefered this had modeling and no capture rather that having capture and no modeling.

[@zipporaid]

1000%. Which budget players have a pile of bogners and plexis they're dying to profile????

[@yb-g8015]

Every on would have too.

[@atithesnail]

@@zipporaid And which budget players have internet connection?

[@klap00]

@@zipporaid Cortex Cloud has more than enough of the captures of boutique equipment. NQ can be a portable way to bring your home tone to the stage or travel for somebody who has hardware at home and a perfect gig rig for somebody who gets what they need from the free cloud.

[@ihasatypo]

Literally. Simple modelers turn out to be the best thing. I’ve got a hx stomp none of these new units seem to be able to replace or improve upon. Makes me wonder…

[@MrJingles021]

Man, I was hoping it would have models. I prefer them over captures/profiles.

[@yb-g8015]

Agree. So disappointing.

[@anxiousnation3820]

I am with you on this one. It makes me thing we won't be getting many new models like Fractal users.

[@kastnerr]

I was really hoping this was going to leverage their plugins. Give me the Neural version of the HX Stomp. Something that I can load presets from my Neural DSP plugin library. I don't need to capture my own amps, I'll let someone with a better prepared room, the rare and unicorn amps, and a lot more experience do that. Even in this video Rabea had one way he would mic the capture, Pete had another, and it was setup differently than either of them would have preferred.

[@Johnnycoretv]

just capture the plug in....... theres already loads of Neural plugin captures on the cloud.

[@kastnerr]

Honestly, I want someone to build a vst loader for the pedal board, a "Stomp DAW" for the lack of a better term.i can set up and record at home, then export everything, amps, ir, effects, all pre configured and ready to be assigned to custom midi switching.

[@Johnnycoretv]

@@kastnerr well technically the cortex does this, especially with the MPC6 pro. as does the kemper.

[@kastnerr]

@Jonthebard I'd never considered using a standalone MPC to load vst. Does this work 4 cable or just in the effects loop? Any links for more information?

[@alfonsovai]

Makes no sense to make a portable device which main feature is capture. Capturing a great amp is not like capturing Pokemons. I think a reduced DSP modeling and effects without the capture will have been a better option. Seems like a missed shot.

[@Baneowo]

in my opinion, they should have promoted more how they can download any capture thats uploaded to the neural cloud

[@zipporaid]

100%. I think a compressor would get more use, or maybe a couple more effects? Should have been a dual cortex with one path, keeping the same app. Fracturing the user base never works out well, and now they have multiple apps to maintain, which doesn't bode well considering the track record

[@Baneowo]

@@zipporaid yeahh, ill get it and see how it is next month when i get my paycheck

[@zipporaid]

@@Baneowo cool! how many amps you gonna capture? Maybe I'm wrong and y'all got piles of stuff around town to grab

[@Baneowo]

@@zipporaid absolutely 0, but i will download and try out many of the preexisting captures made by people who know what they are doing :3

[@747lch]

I love that table y'all have it on LOL. Thank god for these guys - it's hard to find a video right now where the people weren't very obviously paid by Neural and reciting what they were told to present

[@TurntableBlues]

Lol that Anderton’s were “meh” over Tonex, but speak about Nanocortex as if it is a 2nd coming

[@simpsimpson5175]

yep they full of brown stuff

[@DerSilvano]

That's how marketing works

[@Johnnycoretv]

hardly anyone uses the tonex, so you can find more captures for the cortex.

[@trevorD1156]

But in the comparison tonex won and cortex sounded awful, lol. I use my tonex one all of the time as a portable battery powered practice amp with my amps in it. who cares about other people's captures? The entire point of these products are people with too many tube amps to capture their own. I captured two combo amps and traded them in on a better head that wasn't ridiculously heavy with a useless speaker attached when I always use a separate cab.

[@frankiewalnuts]

2:20 - this contains no modelling just for captures.... Closed video

[@Baneowo]

keep watching, because you can still use all the things from the neural library, anything uploaded by people

[@FEV369]

@@Baneowo That sucks.

[@Baneowo]

@@FEV369 ok? dont buy it, ez, for me thats awesome and i will be getting it,

[@floriankunde6699]

What directly is the opposite? Could you explain more detailed?

[@NamelessSmile]

@@Baneowo yes...captures

[@jjonesmdm9736]

This video felt like Rabea prefers his friends at NDSP and has outgrown Andertons. I love Rabea and have followed him for over a decade, but the fact he refuses to acknowledge any negative criticism about NDSP and shutting down Pete and Lee every time is frustrating. I own about 8 NDSP plugins and a QC, they’re the best thing to come out of the music tech industry, but they’re not 100% perfect. Pretty damn close but they do have a few minor flaws. It’s not a bad thing to acknowledge that

[@zipporaid]

Probably an investor

[@ryemill7787]

@@zipporaid Well he already has his own plugin with them so he is on payroll

[@jjonesmdm9736]

@@ryemill7787 he used to be on Andertons payroll and had a signature ML3 Chapman too. Don't forget who made you.

[@TheKeymaker_QC]

I think it's just bad casting for this video. Put Rabea and John only and it's a completely new ballgame.

[@Rikk_Klaww777]

Pete was acting like a dickhead though.🤔

[@Pulse2AM]

Sounds good. I'm hoping ToneX V2 allows Amplitube 5's full suite of effects, cabs, rooms, amps as one rig in a stereo set up and then a capture for the other rig with ability to use Amplitubes effects etc. on the capture which I can do at home on my desktop. You have endless possibilities for rigs with that set up. You can use two captures or mix and match. I think I would buy that.

[@richardfoskett8903]

“I can’t…” “Don’t call me that!” … Pete - never stop giving! 😂

[@MarkGardner66Bonnie]

WOW... This is such a great time to be alive and be a musician... this thing is absolutely AWESOME!

[@ricardod123]

After years of changing gear from tubes, to Kempers and finally Fractal, seeing stuff like this come out and still being totally happy with the AxeFX makes me feel warm and fuzzy that Fractal is king and I've finally got what is right for me. This feels so constricting. I flipped my Source Audio stuff because it relies on an app and the H9 I use is dangerously close to going on ebay.

[@metallaholic]

All hail Cliff

[@therapturousnothing7546]

To be fair I went from Fractal Axe 3 to Neural QC .. I love the tech from most parties and despite working on different principals, most deliver a great sound.. but buying something for £2500 only to find a “mark 2” or “turbo” model coming out after a few years which then makes my product slightly inferior is a big fat middle finger. The fact they can’t commit to a good 10 years without releasing something superior makes me feel “warm and fuzzy!” Yeah.. all hail business. That’s what it is.. drip feeding the consumer new fractal tech to keep the income consistent!! Fair play to them but that is a principal I won’t support. Yeah they’re awesome but the anxiety that it’s outdated and then the newest release marketed and sold as “the closest we’ve ever come to the real thing” with shiny new shampoo advert gimmicks is what drove me away. So fair play to Kemper and Helix for trying to keep their existing customers updated and content and not deliberatly selling something with the intention of being obsolete in a very short period of time for the colossal financial layout! Hopefully QC will follow the route of longevity. In comparison to the flagship products, they’re not as awesome however this is pretty cheap and offers a lot to someone who may be newer to modelling or looking to make a fly rig. I also sold my H90 because it’s just not necessary 😉

[@jordanberrymusic]

I'm like the captain on this one, three steps behind the two teenagers 🤯😂

[@StratsRUs]

Pete And His Cloud. What a great children's book that is gonna be !!

[@dandyism7288]

As a QC user I find this more appealing for people who already own a Cortex than new audiences (for what I’ve read in comments section)

[@cuthbertgrichardsfuck7235]

@@dandyism7288 I own a quad cortex. I have no reason/idea why I would want or need to buy this thing.

[@BCarpenter2314]

Was hoping for something more like an HX Stomp with easy on/off effects and a screen. My best compact/digital solution so far is a Boss IR-2 with a boost pedal and an HX One in its effects loop... everything you need

[@Etienne.6329]

Oh wow, what a massive missed opportunity... a lot of people would've loved a smaller QC (but mono with less effect slots) here... it's just a kamper player/Ik ToneX... Why ? Why wouldn't they capitalise on what they are known for ?

[@darthshaggy9970]

People still wants a hardware unit for the neural dsp plugins to play live, thats the dream but they just did a shitty product

[@WoutervanderMeulen]

@@darthshaggy9970 They're porting all the NeuralDSP plugins to the QC, aren't they?

[@racerx3065]

This is such a strange product, wouldn't we all rather if it had the flexibility of the quad but on a small scale? Lower power and one signal chain be fine. Ability to capture is the feature i could most live without. Also why they didn't put 3 footswitches on is beyond me, all the Darkglass stuff has 3 switches in a similar chassis.

[@sub-jec-tiv]

They’re a business. They’re not going to offer the killer aspect of their expensive product at a much lower price point. That’s just not what a business does. That’s what you or i would do. But businesses are run by business people. They probably looked at the cost of the processor they would need to do modeling and said, ‘we could do it, but the profit margin is lower, and we’re also screwing the quad platform.’ I’m not saying i agree with this decision. Just explaining why it happened, probably

[@matthewperry2767]

@@sub-jec-tivfractal does it?

[@wk4958]

plus no xlr output when it's really suited to live performance.

[@hanktteotd]

@@sub-jec-tiv just my 2 cents on the business side of things. There is a much larger audience of people who will buy a $600 unit than any flagship unit of any brand. It’s kind of like comparing how many Honda Civic’s you see on the road compared to a Ferrari or something similar. That being said, they have just released the most affordable hardware amp profiler to date. The only other one in that price range is the Headrush one, and I personally think Neural is leaps beyond the Headrush in the sound quality of their captures. You have the Tonex, but the capturing is all on the computer, which means you need an interface and a re-amp box. Other than that, if I’m not wrong, it’s just the Kemper Stage and the Quad Cortex coming close to $2,000 after taxes and everything. So in that regard, they definitely have something here. Obviously everyone who was hoping for a direct competition with an HX Stomp are going to be disappointed and I agree and disagree. I think if they did one, it would either be a huge hit or, again, a huge disappointment depending on the features, dsp, I/O, effects, etc. Line 6 is pretty hard to beat on features, flexibility and ease of use, so I understand why they went after a different market.

[@Scott__C]

@@wk4958 XLR connectors chew up a lot more space internally and cost more.

[@mattg082]

I never really wanted one outside a studio, or if I’m driving an hour to a friends house to jam that has a great PA and were just using drum machines. For its small footprint, stripped down format and very easy to capture your amps. I think I’d be a target audience. Play and dial my amps in at band practice. Lock in the amps, bring that sound home, bring it for simple jams to friends houses…great! Also would work with mu huge 16 pedal board. Another benefit is direct monitoring outside my DAW with how my setup is. Currently at home load box, vst IR having to monitor in DAW. Not to fond of that and latency. Then dragging my 60lb amps from my rental space home. But capturing my Sky King and Ampeg VT40 from my practice space would be awesome! I just didn’t want to dish out $1800 for something that’s a studio tool or cheap fill in for me. Currently using an old Tech21 Blonde and some pedals at home. Rental studio I have Sky King, Ampeg VT40, JCM 800 2204, Bassman 50, Twin, JC77. A bunch of old Peavey and some Traynor amps. Love to collect the entire studio to bring to the home studio to compose! I just love how quick and easy the capture is vs using a computer program, and wiring it all up to bring to a studio…it’s a lot of hassle vs this small box.

[@MikaTarkela]

I was hoping they would've released new plugins for the Quad Cortex before coming up with a new device.

[@ChaoticArtemis]

I mean it’s been years 🤣🤣🤣 they are already working on getting the plugins they’ve got compatible with QC. I literally just bought a QC and was horrified to learn initially of a new product but now I feel pretty good about my Purchase still 🤣🤣🤣

[@radguitarist]

The tone is absolutely godly

[@jamesatkinson4386]

I bought the Quad and spent a year trying to find the same FX and sounds as the Kemper. QC not for me, sold it in the end. I am not saying this is what everyone would be like, each to their own. As a live tool, the Kemper stage is hard to beat, solid and dependable. Maybe I am too old school to change. My other favourite is the Kemper powerhead, in my opinion no one has beaten it. Like I said, everyone has a different approach. Rigmanager is superb, easy to use and edit. I just wish I could turn the clock back not have spent on the Quad ......just my opinion and there are many Quad owners that are incredibly happy. I just love the choice we have.

[@Ozman77]

FM9 user here. I might be odd man out, but I like this. I have a ToneX One in the loop of my FM9 for when I want a capture. I always loved the app interface on my QC when I had it, and the pitch shifter for Neural, while not perfect, is one of the few effects that’s better than Fractals in my opinion. Good stuff!

[@TheKeymaker_QC]

Completely agree.

[@MrAntpre]

At this price point was the capture feature the most needed ? I would have prefered more features (effects, pre, post /effect loop /modeling ) and no capture abilities... Like the kemper player i guess

[@mirandazohran]

seriously like the capture thing is so overdone now!

[@jonseyrocks3226]

I think the capture/profiling ability is the most interesting part. There are so many options for modellers at this price range, but how many devices can do the profiling thing in the one unit? Tonex needs their separate ($250) "Tonex Capture" device which brings the cost to more than this thing (and apparently takes longer to do the job).

[@martyshwaartz971]

Especially when tonex is a decent amount cheaper right?

[@AndreasKingMedia]

For what I'd want it for I agree. I think it just depends on whether you want this instead of an amp for at home play, or if you have the amps you like but want to bring this out to gigs and recreate your tone without all the hassle. Clearly this targets that second group more.

[@jonseyrocks3226]

@@martyshwaartz971 The Tonex is $400, but it can't capture by itself, you need the Tonex Capture at $250 to add that functionality, making it more expensive than the Nano Cortex ($650 vs 550 USD). Now, if you're not interested in the capture aspect, sure, the Tonex might be the better option, and is definitely the better priced option.

[@happybenjful]

Im happy with the tonex one to be honest

[@ces69]

Hey! Another new Rolex Lee? Nice!

[@colinmcdonald7591]

This is brilliant. Just what I've been waiting for. Totally simple and practical for the gigging musician. This sets the bar high for all the modelling stomp boxes that are currently out there like UA and Strymon. An easy to use device with amps and IR's on board that sound really really good. No compromise. Just what a guy needs and no more. The QC is fun, but it's a lot of stuff that gets in the way. This thing you load the stuff you want, you turn it on, it works, you get a good sound right away. You turn it off and forget about it until the next gig when you repeat...just like a guitar amp.

[@johnbryan1049]

Will you be buying one? Is this something you’d use with a pedalboard full of amps? I’m trying to figure out why someone would buy this. To me the fixed signal chain with no compressor or overdrive is a huge turn off

[@bluematrix5001]

Awesome sound 33:30 I wish Rabea sounds are in the NC, then will buy one inmediatley

[@TheUncleshoes]

Holding out for the Cortex 1.

[@koshomannheim]

One thing's for sure: all the criticism is lamenting on high level. ;-) I've bought a QC a few weeks ago and I love it for what it is and what it can do: for example being able to take in the two channels of my acoustic guitar, feed one of them with 48V and give me enough effects for a dreamlike, yet punchy acoustic sound which can even be controlled in separate outputs. Yet I still love my Kemper Stage for electric AND (one channel-) acoustic and I can't wait to load my Player with the new upgrades (Morphing! Reverbs! Delays!) and carry that little thing around with me when I'm on the train to play almost any gig. Freedom can be a very hard thing to deal with though, I do know.

[@TheRealChetManley]

Just ordered one, I have Fractal FM9 which is awesome. This will be my first capture device. Looks awesome... I am in the US, so I ordered from Sweetwater, but the Captain, Rabea and Pete did the sales work here. As always, the Andertons team does great work promoting and demoing the products.

[@PabPapp1]

stop waste money bro

[@noodlehair6566]

Neural DSP: Our plugins will be available on a floor unit! People: That's cool! *Years later* People: So where are the plugins on my Quad Cortex? Neural DSP: Here's 2 plugins and a new floor unit People: Okay. But where are the plugins? Neural DSP: *inhales* S O O N

[@spencergill848]

FWIW the plugins are now supported on the Quad Cortex.

[@Allann-yi2cp]

what a shame bro... it wont be posible

[@SteveC-h6o]

@@spencergill848 Only a couple at this point. He mentioned the two.

[@wolfgangcordsen3430]

😂😂

[@johnmclaughlin9971]

@@spencergill848only 2 are: Pliny and Gojira… at their current speed they should have them all out by 2075…

[@marcherwig8060]

I can do basically the same thing with my $110 Mooer Preamp Model X2. I can't capture, but I can download other people's captures online, which is better for me because I don't have any expensive amps at home. With the Mooer Preamp Model X and a Mooer Baby Bomb Power Amp ($90) I can run it through my 4x12 cab and it sounds amazing. I put my modulation between the preamp and poweramp and my overdrives in front. Tonight, I'm playing an SLO100 and it sounds awesome. If I want to play through headphones, it also has an IR loader you can assign to your channels. Highly recommended for those looking to get into something like this but still don't want to pay $500.

[@Crackshot729]

If it had the modeling, I'd buy it. Missed opportunity.

[@mimetype]

Isn't a capture a model?

[@J.D....]

@@mimetype nope. A capture is a static snapshot of an amp. A model is a dynamic "recreation" of an amp and its circuit. Captures cant be changed on the fly, while models can.

[@astrofreq]

Rabea's shoes are my favorite thing in this video! Dope!

[@sub-jec-tiv]

You can really hear them in his tone!

[@denverwalker9078]

When the app is dead and gone in 5 years this will be a brick

[@gigsandguitars6921]

THANK YOU! Glad someone else thought this!

[@sambrenton]

This is still my problem with expensive digital gear If you buy a tubescreamer, in 15 years time it's still a tubescreamer This in 15 years? ¯\(ツ)/¯

[@ArtyShat]

​@@sambrenton that applies to any device, your phone, your computer, etc. things just get better and you dont need to hold on them forever, once something new comes out, you sell the old and buy the new? I have Quad Cortex, if version 2 comes out in the future, i will just sell my old one and get ver 2 :)

[@albertalexander3095]

Why would it be dead thou? Plus - it is gear, people are hacking everything these days, so i bet even if the app would died - someone will come out with a solution.

[@xxdr34m5xx_4]

​@@sambrentoni mean standalone gear like the Tonemaster Pro, and other modelers are perfectly functional in 15 years, besides typical wear through usage. And it comes with so much more advantages over analogue gear, but a lot of that really depends on the player's perspective and background

[@stephenwares8317]

Good to see Pete struggle to play that 'last chord' in Purple Rain LOL I thought it was just me!

[@shorerocks]

I couldn't care less about the Nano Cortex, but the capture sequence alone was worth watching. Love the Andertons videos, ha ha.

[@hardtobearit]

That not having the modeling is a misstep, honestly. Captures still mean you need to own a good amp and at that point it's still a paywall.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

No there are hundreds of great profiles for this thing for free.

[@digitalchris6681]

Yet again, Neural DSP misreads its intended audience.

[@MrJingles021]

This has happened before?

[@digitalchris6681]

@@MrJingles021 Oooh yes. Their QC was a case study of unfulfilled promises and overhype.

[@MrJingles021]

@digitalchris6681 I was not aware. When the QC launched I was justing getting back into guitar and would have been from the era where digital modelers were bad.

[@MrJingles021]

@Necca_UK at this point I've probably seen 100 comments of people saying they don't like it, for every person saying this is exactly what they needed.

[@digitalchris6681]

@@Pamapamapop Fair enough, and good for you. But I so doubt you'll be in the majority.

[@DalelCampbell]

Rebea works for Nerual DSP?

[@kaekayyy2554]

he has a partnership i think because of his plugin....probably gets stuff sent early.

[@DerSilvano]

Our boy's gotta eat

[@kenjiwhe]

My view is that everybody can comment whatever they like, as long as everyone stays polite. Which is not always the case. Now that I understand the unit better, all I can say is well done Neural DSP. But now back to improving the Quad Cortex please 🎉

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

Prepare yourself for people who've never played a single note outside their bedroom to start telling you why this unit not having X, Y or Z features is a "dealbreaker" for them

[@Paroketh]

What's wrong with this, everyone can buy what suit them better...

[@nfrankiksa4596]

Sure but if their arguments are silly they must be called out ​@@Paroketh

[@Paroketh]

@@nfrankiksa4596 but how can you say they're silly even before reading them...and still, everyone can be silly with their money as they want to: if I want to spend 20k on a rig to play only for myself in my headphones why should someone else care about it? If I prefer another product just because I like screens (just an example of something missing here) why should you care? Chill out guys, anyone has his preferences and can spend his money as he wants to...

[@jamesmoses4066]

Not being able to do modeling is a deal breaker

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

​@@jamesmoses4066 Looking forward to your new album bro

[@charlesford8692]

As someone who has been keeping an eye on the Quad Cortex, I love this. I have a pedalboard already, I just want the captures. My only frustration is I cannot capture my overdrives and add them in front of the captured amp. If I had that it would be a game changer But regardless, this is on my list🤘🏼

[@Yelbomsirhc1]

You could create a capture of your amp with the overdrive off, and then capture it again with the overdrive on. Then you could toggle between the two presets and it would be just like kicking your O/D pedal on and off.

[@bluematrix5001]

I do not know if is me but the Nano sounds so bold, so good and big... seems that sounds better than any others like the Tonex or the line 6 stuff etc

[@stoneysdead689]

Hmm- if this were modeling and didn't depend on a phone app- I would be into it. But- not like this- not for me. I could see professional musicians who have access to lots of amps and different gear using it a lot though. If they could capture the finished tones they use to record- they could then use them live and greatly simplify their touring rig. Edit: I feel validated- Pete and I use the same mic setup- Royer 121 in the center and a SM57 off to one side at the edge of the cone. It sounds amazing- you should try it if you haven't.

[@QuickSticks8771]

If you already have a pedal board and power supply, all the drive effect pedals I’d want , an audio interface , monitor speakers and microphone then this will sound almost as good as the amp you already have !!

[@Paul-D]

Well i thought i was being a stick in the mud being disappointed by this release (whilst totally understanding it with a business greed head on) but judging by so many comments, lots of us feel the same!

[@studioruangsvara]

So this is the ‘small thing’ that took over their website. Great tone for everyone now

[@WutipongWongsakuldej]

I think .... some prefers time-based effects in the effect loop. When you put the effect in the loop the overall effects sound is affected by the speaker+microphone, it will sound darker, more mellow. When putting the effect after the speaker+microphone, it will act more like studio effects which the effect sound will be clearer and brighter. I prefer the latter but many would go for the one in the loop. I think this unit capture the whole amplifier (preamp, poweramp, and speakers) + microphone as a unit. With this the effect loop might not be possible. Each component needs to be capture separately so we could put the effects loop in between the pre-amp and the power amp section. It's possible to capture the preamp part separately from the rest of the system like ... send signal to the input jack and capture the output from the effect send, and then send the signal to the return input and capture it with microphone at the speaker. We would need 2 playback blocks instead of one though.

[@steverolfeca]

Even if this is just a case of Neural loading nicer presets than other manufacturers choose, this is REALLY interesting- including the simplified interface.

[@K4ORl]

depending on the price this could be a real nice product but it doesn't beat the toneX pedal or the tone one to be honest I wish we could have gotten better plug in support for the Quad Cortex

[@xxdr34m5xx_4]

About 550 bucks

[@darthshaggy9970]

Well, this could be better if they have the option of putting the neural dsp plugins on the unit but nah, capture tones? What a shitty product, i was hoping to a better product than the kemper player, i still prefer neural model amps than captured kemper.tones

[@mikeellis4345]

I would love to see Mike Dawes get his hands on that unit …. Imagine that!! 😮 I would spend a very long time playing with that unit… hours of frustrating fun I reckon !

[@MichaelIrons-d5v]

very interesting vid boys.

[@trevorjohnson8142]

This is a pretty terrible video from people who are great content creators. The direction was aimless. Rabea sounded tired. He WAS getting tired of getting walked on and talked over by Pete and Lee (mostly Pete). In turn, they were talking over Rabea, I think, because every time he spoke, he sounded like an absolute shill. Which is something they do a pretty good job of papering over at Andertons. It's pretty obvious the device is a letdown in the face of the cheaper ToneX, so hearing them talk so sweetly about it really just screamed that money is involved. The whole thing just made me sad. I like all of these guys, but this was not a good showing.

[@DarthV506]

Well Bea has a financial tie to NDSP, so this is no different than a marketing video. Then again, vids done by stores already are.

[@simatbirch]

They’re a shop, not an impartial review channel.

[@zynthio]

they are literally a music shop?? Every single video they make is to push something they are trying to sell, it would be pretty stupid to talk bad about the product. No crap there’s money involved, they need to sell all the units they ordered

[@trevorjohnson8142]

@zynthio I have a feeling you haven't watched much of this channel over the years. This is not representative of their typical behavior, especially towards digital gear. If you want proof of my claims, go check out their initial review of Tonex. It WAS NOT favorable. Also, I'm not dense; I watch a fair but of Andertons content. I know they're a shop, and I understand what that entails. However, there's a big difference between the monetary incentive a shop owner has to present products in a favorable light - which he/she must always juxtapose with buyer trust - and a true shill, which in this case would be accepting money from a company to ensure favorable outcomes regardless of flaws. I'll just saw, everyone got really uncomfortable when Lee mentioned ToneX at all; it really seemed like he wasn't supposed to, but I think Lee knew that would be weird because it's the obvious comparison. NDSP make some great products, and I owned the Quad Cortex, but listen to John Nathan Cordy, and you'll get a sense of how they treat anyone with a dissenting opinion. TL;DR - It's not as simple as: they're a shop trying to make money. This video was not consistent with anyone's previous behavior, and, when viewed in comparison to their original ToneX review, looks a least a little suspicious. There was definitely something abnormal at play.

[@parmeshgurung]

They literally sell gear for living. Rabea ties with neural products is out in open. He is not bashing fractal or helix, just promoting neural.

[@dscataglini]

It's definitely an interesting offering. It gives you all the basic ingredients you'd need for a gig. It's the same price as the Tonex with Capture bundle. Gives you chorus/delay/transpose (the last two are very appealing, as they'll save you easily $250 even on the used market). The tonex bundle wins on being able to capture an amp head by itself, which doesn't seem to be possible here, but it's an extra thing to carry around. Nano cortex by itself seems to allows you to capture only a pedal or amp with cabinet mike. If you want to get an amp head capture you'll have to download one.

[@rsuarezc229]

Wow, i have the QC but this... So small, i love it

[@rmp5s]

People complain about the Axe-FX screen...imagine playing a gig and having to whip out your phone mid-song to make a quick tweak. 🤣🤣 Seems pretty cool but it will definitely not be replacing my Axe-FX III.

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

You really should have all that figured out before the gig. The knobs on top are for quick tweaks. If you get to the gig and decide you need less reverb I think that is what the Amount knob is for. Keep it simple.

[@rmp5s]

@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios I agree, but people's #1 complaint about the fractal stuff is the screen/UI...how making quick changes is hard or whatever. I don't really agree, and I do think you should have the vast majority of it sorted out ahead of time, but this is what they whine about.

[@solvirgo9372]

for £500 its a pretty strong fight

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

@@rmp5s I can use the Fractal UI just fine. Its called learning the unit and its not rocket science. Its not that Rhett Shull can't figure it out but maybe he just doesn't want to.

[@rmp5s]

@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios Yup. Same here. Once you're used to it, it's not that bad for doing little tweaks and stuff. Honestly, I never touch the friggin thing, anyway. Axe-Edit for the win.

[@dannydelacruzguitar6519]

Awesome! Can’t wait to get stuck into one of these

[@captainobvious254]

Kemper Player seems like a much better device. Time will tell though. I still don’t like that neither one has any type of screen.

[@soulsideout3732]

What!? He said he’s already got one……I couldn’t resist an opportunity to reference Monty Python😂

[@carwynvan]

Ultimate gigging/travel board. QC Nano and a SD Power Stage 🙂

[@thierry18]

Boss gt1000 core is still on top

[@nickvareymusic]

Firstly, this is such a fascinating video with (what feels like) thousands of incredible tones flying at you - I love it! Secondly, I'm curious, are you guys using speakers in the studio to hear yourself back?

[@themaninthesuitcase]

I was looking at the tonex last week and whilst this is more it’s looking promising.

[@sp0rtbilly77]

having two guitarist review products is awesome

[@paulw6126]

I’m too old and thick for this stuff. I’ve tried Boss multi, line 6 Helix etc and always end up back at my JTM45 where it feels like I got back home after sleeping in too many Travellodges. Appreciate how clever these things are though.

[@pads-zr9ln]

@@paulw6126 same, I'm very much a set and forget, I'd rather be playing than creating patches

[@kennethlinton4432]

Hard to beat the sound of a Les Paul into a JTM45.

[@GaryDGuitar]

HX Stomp is better.

[@keshabdk]

exactly

[@FastRedPonyCar]

I’ve owned the stomp for years and spent a month setting up our singers QC and the moderate to high gain sounds from the QC are much better than what the stomp or my helix LT can do. That said, this unit is lacking a lot of other capabilities the stomp has that I think it SHOULD have but I only bought one to capture my amps and other amps that come through my studio for me to review on my channel.

[@chrismataran]

Hi, this is probably a great device, but it's not an amp modeler contrary to what is stated in the video description . I'm very satisfied with my IK Multimedia ToneX One pedal, which offers most of the same features at a quarter of the price. I don't share your enthusiasm, but everyone is free to choose the product they prefer. Cheers!

[@joshtorresfdu6621]

I only use captures on my QC so not a deal breaker for me, will use this as a backup to my QC.

[@lifeasinterns]

I like that Lee has personalized picks. Pete’s better be purple!

[@Onz70]

Sounds awesome because Rabea and Pete are playing. Won’t sound like that if I played through it 😂

[@TractorMonkeywithJL]

That's the trouble with gear videos. Guys like Pete can make anything sound good. I couldn't achieve anything like a good tone if I had a Dumble, a Klon and an original 58 les paul.

[@jamesion989]

okay yes thats great but why wouldnt i just get a tonex and a plethora x3/5? same price same stuff?

[@anthonynewcomb1069]

Bought this to test on my pedal board against my Tone-X. I don’t need a huge amount of captures/presets, I’ve got pre and post pedals for the rest. I just want great tones, and a simple app interface that doesn’t make me feel fatigued…like Tone-X. I also find that when I sample the sounds on the Tone-X software, when I load them onto my pedal for whatever reason they just sound darker.? Strangest thing. Hoping to be able to test the pedal this weekend or after I get back from vacation.

[@Piplodocus]

I'm not remotely interested in ditching all my amp rig and weird pedals for a quad cortex. But one of these would be brilliant to grab and take to a quick jam session when you just need a couple of decent sounds (and you can even capture your own amp and take that). So I can imagine there's defo a market outside just people who can't afford a quad cortex.

[@xlilxillx]

Why would anyone buy this over the tonex?

[@stenmartens7179]

i believe tonex is just captures, this contains slots for fx as well? so it can be a one-stop solution instead of the tonex only covering the amp/cab part of the sound. edit: only postfx, no overdrives

[@neurocosm]

Great question.

[@xlilxillx]

@@stenmartens7179tonex pedal has a gate compressor & reverb. There’s not enough switches for this to be useful for anything other than switching between clean and boost. If it had the modeling as well it would be much more compelling

[@Anfera236]

Get tonex one with a Valeton GP200lt. You can have the tonex on the fx loop and that’s it.

[@romanf9672]

Because it's more expensive

[@Heart_Reaper1]

I’m glad you guys explained it so well. WTF is Capture! 😂 Hmm, I’ll stick to a guitar and a tube amp.

[@jaydawg]

I'm wondering what the best way is to capture just the preamp of an amp head. Live I always put my pedalboard through the power amp of my ENGL Fireball. I just got the Nano Cortex and so I want to capture just the preamp of the Fireball. I have a Two Notes Captor, but I probably won't need that right? Here's what I was thinking: Guitar > Nano Cortex input Nano Cortex Capture Out > Fireball input Fireball FX Send > Nano Cortex Capture Input Nano Cortex Output 1L > Fireball FX Return Fireball speaker out > ENGL cab Would this work? Hopefully this will capture the Fireball preamp without breaking anything and will allow me to A/B the capture when it's done.

[@nathansantos.n8]

if this had an fx loop function so you could use it as the beggining and end of your pedal board and add in a line of your fave physical pedals that arent in the nano cortex (such as analog octavers and such), it wouldve been perfect

[@matthewlaw8268]

Would love them to do a dummies/newbie guide to all these things as I have just got a guitar plugged into my amp, never used any pedals and don’t have a clue what all these things do.

[@markbaker5343]

Saw the email from Sweetwater this morning, looked up videos. Was at first thinking, "oh wow, a mini QC." But I was wrong. This isn't very appealing to me, but maybe it will be for some.

[@RobertFisher1969]

An FX loop would be useful if you want to use the headphone out or audio interface. If it had an FX loop, you could use the one pedalboard for live, recording, and practice without having to have a separate audio interface or headphone amp. (That said, the Nanocortex isn't for me anyway. But if it were, lack of a loop would certainly be something that would influence my buying decision.)

[@adamcogan211]

Am I the only one hyped for this?? I don’t have a laptop/pc and I’ve needed to upgrade my amp for a while so this sounds great to me. Yes it’s not modelling but that would have doubled the price at least tbh. The fact I can have a bunch of captures of more expensive amps/rigs and save them all to this sounds amazing!

[@The_Audio_Phoenix]

NGL I was completely expecting this to come in at a flat £1000 just for the Neural badge on it (and with a little bit more I/O it would have been worth it) But this blows me away. 100% going on my pedals to consider list.

[@cchavez248]

Pete, clean and dirty; Clean Tones, Dirty Jokes!😂😅

[@atithesnail]

What most people don’t seem to get here is that you don’t need to have boutique amps laying around. I just opened the app and whatever rare amp I thinked of had at least 80 captures on cloud already. Which means you have more amps available, waaaaay more than with any modeler unit. Okay, you can’t fiddle with your favorite knobs like SAG, variac or saturation type, but that’s the point too somehow. You plug in, have thousands of great tones immediately, and you are happy. It’s not for everyone, but will surely make a ton of people happy.

[@Baneowo]

yeah, i was so confused as to why its getting SO much hate, meanwhile me here, genuinely being beyond happy that i can access all those captures now, i think people are just hating for the sake of hating

[@PaulLembo]

No screen at all, in 2024, for 500 pounds? Phone apps are a special hell. Sorry friends.

[@twangman-5224]

Hmm - no display AND no proper MIDI I/O (just a jack input for a MIDI expression pedal). I think I'll stick with my Tonex pedal.

[@SomeDudeDan]

Agreed, it is cool and fast, but I will stay with my QC and Axe-FX III Turbo 🤘🎩

[@mthao1832]

Umm yea it’s 2024 rent is 1500 for a decent one bedroom these days too lol 599 is cheap

[@PaulLembo]

@@mthao1832 How did IK Multimedia do it for less money then?

[@parmeshgurung]

@@SomeDudeDandude you got best of both worlds. No need to watch baby QC 😅😅.

[@aurexlive]

So what happens when your phone's OS doesn't support the app anymore?

[@TVoltG]

This is very cool.

[@timtam6369]

I just picked up a line 6 hd pro x. Baby steps.

[@basiltiffani8850]

While I am very interested in these kind of pedalboard friendly units, I'm only interested in that/boss gt1000core/hx stomp form factor w/ a screen or the UAFX single pedal format. I recognize this is an incredible offering, though.

[@raynunez6027]

Ndsp: 💰 💰 💰 KZbinrs: absolute game changer! This is going to be widely popular!!

[@zynthio]

They aren’t just KZbinrs. They’re a MUSIC STORE. One would have to be extremely naive to expect them not to praise a piece of equipment that they are literally trying to sell to you

[@Sonnytimesalways-lx7je]

Lots and lots of people complaining in the comments section but these little units still sell very well , if I had the cash available I would love to own one of these units , its never going to replace my Tube Amps but that's not the reason I would buy one , its the incredible portability and sound at low level volume and set up options that do it for me.

[@PaulLembo]

@@Sonnytimesalways-lx7je in a world without ToneX this might make more sense.

[@ghwr]

How long is too long? Would've loved to see more of the three of you trying out this thing-o-magic.