Which Amp is the REAL Guitar Amp? - The Ultimate Amp in a Box Pedal Shootout

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@duschendestroyer
@duschendestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
I think the real amp was the friends we made along the way
@sebbo1496
@sebbo1496 Жыл бұрын
i love how the pedal called simplifier has the most knobs and switches i've ever seen
@toasty.nihilist
@toasty.nihilist 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate reality Pete: Denise Pete
@vanhuber
@vanhuber 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Strymon Iridium and just loaded some York Audio IR's - FTWN 212 D120 (Fender Twin), BMAN 410 P10Q (Bassman), and DXVB Verb Deluxe (Deluxe Reverb). I loaded all with the SM57 position 2 settings. These IR's are a huge improvement over the factory settings, adding a fatness and warmth that can be heard in the Walrus. I think this shoot out is really about comparing IR's.
@donlee178
@donlee178 7 ай бұрын
This is the MOST HELPFUL comment on this whole debate. Thank you
@sugurukase1046
@sugurukase1046 3 жыл бұрын
I think the difference in sound characteristics is largely due to different built-in IRs. It would make more sense to bypass the cab sim module in each pedal and use an external IR pedal like Two Notes Cab M. That would be a more interesting shootout to me. That being said I don't doubt that anyone can dial in amazing tones out of any of these boxes after getting used to the workflow.
@andertons
@andertons 3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting point... Maybe a future video to see how different the cab simulator pedals sound? Thanks for the comment & feedback!
@VictorEMusique
@VictorEMusique 3 жыл бұрын
@@andertons Yes please!
@jonbuckley
@jonbuckley 3 жыл бұрын
Valid Comment. I was wondering why the Cab M+ wasn't on this list?
@jips123
@jips123 3 жыл бұрын
That would make the comparison better. Also, you can load ir’s in the Strymon. Do the other pedals have this ability? If so, it is even way easier to use the same ir everywhere.
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is true. But partly irrelevant. Because if you are to make a choice for a pedal, the built in IRs (not sure if you can load in each of them your own) are part of the sound. Which brings me to the conclusion I would only buy one that lets me load IRs (I got a lot of them and know my top 3).
@conorfurlong
@conorfurlong 3 жыл бұрын
The Simplifier is the closest to the amp sound for clean. And is, to my ears, the clear winner on Marshall gain.
@Supernautiloid
@Supernautiloid 3 жыл бұрын
I have the original Simplifier and it’s a marvelous unit. All analog, stereo cabs, and effects loop. All the features I need and none that I don’t.
@Adrian-vk1cu
@Adrian-vk1cu 3 жыл бұрын
I have it and use it at church. It works great. Being a walrus fan I want to try the ACS1, but I don’t think I need to.. the simplifier is fantastic
@robbiemcpherson7277
@robbiemcpherson7277 3 жыл бұрын
Good on ya for doing it with the EQs flat. I'm an Iridium owner and a huge fan. None of the amp models on the Iridium sound any good to my years with the EQ flat. With the Round amp, A cab and the EQ flat, it's a bit tweedy and not a lot like a BF Deluxe. But if you switch down to cab C, run the bass at 1 o'clock, mids at 10 o'clock and treble at 2 o'clock, then you're in BF heaven. With the Punch amp, you need to wind the bass back to 10 or even 9 o'clock. And with the Chime amp, the mid actually acts as a treble cut, which I wind right down to 8 o-'clock. Loving your work, in any case.
@TimKaseyMythHealer
@TimKaseyMythHealer 2 жыл бұрын
When you guys made the conclusion that the walrus was better you should’ve tried to get the iridium to sound exactly like the walrus and then the public would be get a better review. I have never used any piece of equipment and turn the knobs at 12 o’clock. Not even an amp sounds good with the knobs at 12 o’clock.
@LOFIGSD
@LOFIGSD 3 жыл бұрын
All nice expensive gear, I've got Vox, Marshall and Katana Amps, but my simple living room plug in and play is the Joyo American and Caline Blue Sky into my PA. The American really feels like a Fender Amp.
@eltorpedo8844
@eltorpedo8844 3 жыл бұрын
I have a deluxe reverb, mesa fillmore, and blues deville 4x10 and torpedo captor, and a strymon iridium. My DAW is logic pro.I bought the Own Hammer Deluxe Reverb IRs and have several wall of sound IR packs. If you're a great engineer or great at messing with IRs you can probably get a great result out of real amps and a torpedo. If you're a player trying to capture your actual performance and you find micing or DI loses your ripping solo tone and cone cry the iridium or one of these other options is probably the "easy button" you're looking for. 15 hours messing with IRs or plug the Iridium in and tweak a few knobs. It has been game changing for me and I'll guess a lot of you are like me. A player who doesn't want to spend a ton of time learning gear.
@jakefriesenjake
@jakefriesenjake 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, I'm thinking about getting the Iridium. To Use the Marshall amp and a Metallica ir cab Sim, maybe an overdrive pedal in front. Have you ever tried using something like the free Metallica gold ir pack?
@ongki_kadek
@ongki_kadek 4 ай бұрын
Hello bro @eltorpedo8844 does Iridium have send & return for modulation ? Thankyou
@tomfonner1886
@tomfonner1886 3 жыл бұрын
The Strymon gear always sounds so good. The Walrus has a nice 6L6 beef to it.
@AbdurRouf-ol4jn
@AbdurRouf-ol4jn 3 жыл бұрын
Not exaggerating...But this is THE video I needed lately...
@andertons
@andertons 3 жыл бұрын
Well... We hope it helps out with your choice :)
@dsmnoisemaker101
@dsmnoisemaker101 3 жыл бұрын
On the DSM Humboldt, for a better Vox tone, you have to cut the mids. The Vox amps do not have a mid control and are naturally scooped (theres the "bucket" tone")
@laurendelosreyes9615
@laurendelosreyes9615 3 жыл бұрын
Excited with what you're doing. Preordered it hopefully it gets here soon!
@joshundrwd
@joshundrwd 3 жыл бұрын
I found this to be the case with the original Simplifier as well. Unlike the Iridium, the Simplifier does not change the function of the mid knob in Vox mode. On Iridium, when you switch to the Vox mode the mid knob changes to work like an AC30's tone cut and the mid scoop is accounted for in the digital simulation, whereas on Simplifier it all still works like a normal EQ. Once I realized this, I got way more into the Simplifier's Vox mode. You just have to turn the mids down more than you normally would on most amps.
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 3 жыл бұрын
The DLX is the fastest I've ever pulled the trigger on a gear purchase.
@ljmiller96
@ljmiller96 3 жыл бұрын
That Humboldt started the race as the dark horse but may have eeked out a Victory. Heh.
@kiljoy3254
@kiljoy3254 3 жыл бұрын
I think Angus Young will replace his live rig with the DSM Simplifier
@TroyNaumu808
@TroyNaumu808 3 жыл бұрын
They all sound wonderful. The differences are so subtle. But I like the Walrus.
@josephcotten4015
@josephcotten4015 3 жыл бұрын
No Sansamps? Tech 21 has been doing this for decades longer than anyone, and they’re still putting out new and amazing amp-in-a-box products. Kinda weird to not see them in this. [shrug]
@SteveRayMorse
@SteveRayMorse 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that I ever saw a Tech21 video from Andertons.
@Catsincages
@Catsincages 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's not 'That Pedal Show' it's the what Andertons have in stock to sell you show. As always 😽
@josephcotten4015
@josephcotten4015 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catsincages Good point!
@josephcotten4015
@josephcotten4015 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRayMorse Huh. You know, you’re right. I haven’t either, now that you mention it.
@SteveRayMorse
@SteveRayMorse 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catsincages but they always had Tech21 in their website. All Sansamps line at least.
@braydendickens
@braydendickens 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between the two Marshall settings is the amp they're modelling. The ACS-1 is doing the lower gain 62' Bluesbreaker while the Iridium is modelling a high gain modded Super Lead. Great video lads!
@ArvidNielsen
@ArvidNielsen 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this for the second time. The Simplifier is my preference - again.
@dgufflet
@dgufflet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys !!! If I were a "fender" guy, I'll go with the Walrus... but only to use the Fender... The Simplifier on the Marshall is killer !!! The Atomic doesn't do it for me... there is like this mid frequency that I know I'll fight everytime... I bought the Strymon few months ago, changed the IR and it's just wowwww !!! Having a lot of fun with it !!!
@chrstphbch
@chrstphbch 3 жыл бұрын
I got the ACS1 to replace my V40 in IEM situations. Love that I can go stereo now and that there's much less to worry about. It's basically my pedal platform just like the V40. I put my own Creamback IR into it to match the V40 tone. I would probably still choose the amp with Captor X if I had the choice everytime, but the ACS1 in the mix sounds phenomenal and it sounds the same everytime, which is probably the biggest pro argument.
@musicadikto
@musicadikto 3 жыл бұрын
I think we have the same set of ears Pete, haha. We picked the same and judged the sound the same... I can hear the difference with my PC speakers, so maybe the same way that you hear there in the studio. Clean: Walrus bested the others Drive: Simplifier DLX bested the others
@rgbplumbinghilton
@rgbplumbinghilton 3 жыл бұрын
The simplifier for me. Sounds better to my ears.
@davedavem
@davedavem 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few odd things going on here... 1. Walrus are the cheapest on offer 2. The "Simplifier" is by far the most complicated 3. The Strymon is not the best sounding and has the fewest features Interestingly, these are not an alternative to a traditional amp to save money. They're equally pro gear for a different job. Anyway, I want the most expensive one. Damn.
@Iodine74
@Iodine74 3 жыл бұрын
When you were running the AC Settings on the Simplifier, did you change the Tubes switch for both sides? It looked like the top row was on KT88s. They definitely aren't matching when I pause the screen. At 29:41 it looks like the top one is pointed up (Set to KT-88s) and the lower one looks like it's pointed at the middle (EL84s). My assumption is that even mono, in it's stereo out so the setting of both channels matters... but I could be wrong. Also I think the Simplifier naming convention for Cabs is slightly weird, cause you can have a 2x12 combo.. which is I guess what they mean by Twin... but then do they account for say Fendery Speakers vs Celestion Blues or Silvers that would be in a Vox?
@raymonderazo8571
@raymonderazo8571 3 жыл бұрын
Really good comparison, if you ask me I will go with the Simplifier, it's sound fuller and bigger than the others, it's my opinion...
@moetrauma
@moetrauma 3 жыл бұрын
I’m more partial to the Walrus. It also has the smallest footprint of the lot. I’m really interested in the DSM though, as it seems to be a more complete solution to just set and go.
@BipityBopity93
@BipityBopity93 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, Pete coughing and no one is freaking out. Back to normal life, and it's awesome!
@gregmize01
@gregmize01 3 жыл бұрын
SCAMDEMIC
@sebastianmedina1234
@sebastianmedina1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregmize01 i mean… the vaccine is free in the United States. So not really if you’re also from my side of the pond.
@asmallfarmhomestead3657
@asmallfarmhomestead3657 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianmedina1234 nothing is “free.”
@greg4272
@greg4272 3 жыл бұрын
This demo would have been more precise if all the cabsims were EQ-d to match with each other. That way we could have listened to the sound quality differences between them, not the obvious tone (EQ) differences.
@teknomanning
@teknomanning 3 жыл бұрын
After a night of hard work in a hospital this is 😊
@Michael_Is_Avg
@Michael_Is_Avg 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the ACS1 a couple months ago and really starting to dig into it. I think it does the "edge of break-up" type tones incredible well, albeit does not have that much gain on tap. I always set my amps at that spot, so it's good for me. I really wasn't too thrilled with some of the Stock IR's, but I started making my own impulses using the GGD Cabzilla and it's been a life changing experience! It's now unreal good. I actually even sold off my Kemper because of this pedal for when I have to go direct. It's crazy how far the digital world has come and how many good options there are! For me, size and form factor sold me on walrus, but I'd be happy with just about any of these.
@marksifuentes1002
@marksifuentes1002 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to bypass the cab sims on the ACS1? I would like to run a signal to my 2X12
@deaneaxboy
@deaneaxboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksifuentes1002 Yes I believe in the new update you can do this
@skylarmobis4681
@skylarmobis4681 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your ir's???do you know any website??please help me
@Michael_Is_Avg
@Michael_Is_Avg 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylarmobis4681 I used the get good drums cabzilla vst. They have a couple of them. I would bypass the ir in the pedal, connect it to my interface and listen to the track without the ir, then just start trying different ones until I found what I liked. Exported those or wav files then uploaded them to the pedal.
@ReddenDoom
@ReddenDoom 2 жыл бұрын
Listening with good headphones at about 10min, the simplifier sounds extremely close to the amp outside a few eq differences. The Atomic and Iridium both sound worse off the bat (the iridium seems to have had a different goal), and the Mako seems to be going for what people think the amp should sound like - a highly sculpted and super bright tone to start. I was surprised to hear how close the simplifier was.
@eezar21
@eezar21 3 жыл бұрын
I've lived on my Simplifier (the smaller one) for the last year. For home playing and recording it has been a real lifeline and sounds ******* fantastic - playing mainly on the Fender sound. One of my best buys for 2020. I agree with Pete...now gigs are coming back here in Chicago, I am really enjoying playing my real Deluxe Reverb amp again though. At home though this is now my permanent recording solution. No need to mess around with microphones and cables.
@eezar21
@eezar21 2 жыл бұрын
@@CCovers1 In a mix you would not tell the difference...honestly. I have recorded a bunch of release songs with this
@1-2weeks96
@1-2weeks96 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to use pedals with Simplifier? I mean, to use Simplifier as a clean channel and turn on some distortion pedals for metal solos, etc.? Does it sound any good? Sorry for the dumb question, just trying to figure out is it versatile enough for me as an on-and-off beginner.
@eezar21
@eezar21 2 жыл бұрын
@@1-2weeks96 hey no dumb questions, all good :) Yeah, I used pedals through it - it was sitting at the end of a small board for a while. I don't play metal but for my music (blues/rock) it took pedals great. It does also have an effects loop so you can send your reverb and delay effects after the pre-amp, and drive it like any other amp through the front end (input)
@1-2weeks96
@1-2weeks96 2 жыл бұрын
@@eezar21 thanks for the answer! It helps a lot!
@jburdsinfuse
@jburdsinfuse 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing the Iridium live for several months now. The Vox model is indistinguishable from the real thing in a mix through the PA. My pedals work flawlessly and it is simply the easiest unit on the market utilize to quickly pull A+ tones out of. And you can sell it for close to what you paid for it because it's Strymon if you change your mind a year later.
@derekchapman5167
@derekchapman5167 3 жыл бұрын
"...The Vox model is indistinguishable from the real thing in a mix through the PA" - behave, lol.... we've just listened to the professional guitarist say none of them are the same as a real amp. None of these are as good as the real thing.
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekchapman5167 of course they are going to say that but they wouldnt be able to tell the difference in a blind test
@jburdsinfuse
@jburdsinfuse 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekchapman5167 They're not in when compared in a room. If I was recording an album, I would use the real thing. If I toured live in arena's, I would use the real thing. But in an average, live setting through a PA (think churches, small clubs, restaurants, bars), it's amazing. If you can crank an AC30 in your environment, more power to you. But in a silent stage environment, no one in the crowd knows the difference, and that's the most important thing.
@s.r.b.4582
@s.r.b.4582 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekchapman5167 the thing is, they didn't made the good settings on the strymon for the Vox test. The Vox is supposed to be played with the mid tone button close to 0 (for the really bright vox tone), because it's simulating a Tone control, not a mid frequency control
@jburdsinfuse
@jburdsinfuse 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParaBellum2024 the U.S. South - we’ve been open since last summer.
@jimleininger8963
@jimleininger8963 3 жыл бұрын
If I didn't have an Iridium, I would buy the Walrus. But I would not buy one to replace my Iridium. Until I heard the gain demo... I'm perfectly happy with my Iridium and will likely never replace with anything but another future version
@Catsincages
@Catsincages 3 жыл бұрын
If they had 'sag' 'collapse' and 'bust into flames' dials and came in pink they would sound better.
@ChasePadgett
@ChasePadgett 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I think you used the Strymon’s fender channel for your Vox demo. Looks like the left switch is all the way up (round) and not center (chime). The right switch selects the IR and that’s in the middle position on your Vox demo. I could be wrong but I own the Iridium and love the Vox channel it has and that didn’t sound like the Vox channel to me.
@allakazoo6267
@allakazoo6267 3 жыл бұрын
Ain’t the Punch the Marshall one and the Round the Fender one?
@ChasePadgett
@ChasePadgett 3 жыл бұрын
@@allakazoo6267 yup you’re right. My bad. I’ll edit the original comment. Thanks for the heads up.
@scottparkerworship6291
@scottparkerworship6291 3 жыл бұрын
Guys check out the Quilter Superblock. Would love to hear your take on these.
@JTakasa
@JTakasa Жыл бұрын
I love the content, guys! I'd love to see this kind of shootout done where you're not only comparing how these pedals sound flat, but dialed in as well. At 23:54, you refer to a pedal as sounding, "flat" when the eq is still straight up. Knobs are meant to be turned. I'd much rather see a video of you two being excited over the tones that you dialed in vs which of the pedals are less bland. My favorite moments are always when you guys are genuinely excited over something such as your latest "new pedalboards" video where Lee was shredding and Pete made a face everytime the wah was kicked on! Cheers from Detroit.
@Vikkk1978
@Vikkk1978 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A very telling comparison. To my ears, once again Simplifire has won. It has a more lively, raw and real sound. ASC-1 and Strymon are more of a "post-production" sound. Atomic is a clear outsider in this comparison. In such a comparison, it also made sense to consider the sound taken by a microphone from a guitar cabinet. It is also significantly different from the Torpedo.
@cameronmcmahan4290
@cameronmcmahan4290 2 жыл бұрын
ACS1 seems most versatile to me, cleanest cleans which you can always stack pedals into
@eskilseter
@eskilseter 3 жыл бұрын
I own and love the Ampli-Firebox (the original version), but I'm really liking that Simplifier DLX
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I have both. Stereo is king! I sold the Iridium almost immediately.
@NomaDL2224
@NomaDL2224 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mark 1 as well and its fantastic! The Iridium wasn't even close in my opinion.
@KienLim
@KienLim Жыл бұрын
I am in Hanoi right now and the mode of transport is motorbike. A car is not feasible. The places I play have a PA system but no backline. I've been lugging my Blackstar HT-1 and miking it up but it doesn't work because I am down tuned to D as my standard tuning and I use octave pedals. The Blackstar comes out farting and sounding very small. And also because I am on a motorbike carrying my guitar, pedalboard and amp, it is now a consideration that I plug direct. I have tried using the speaker simulation output on the Blackstar and it doesn't really cut it. Now I am looking to plug direct. I would love to use an amp and a 2 x 12 but can't really carry that on my bike..... So therefore this option seems viable and the best way to proceed.... it is out of necessity.... and convenience...
@EliseoCaporale
@EliseoCaporale 3 жыл бұрын
Anderton's making my day better as always with challenge videos!! Thank you guys.
@andertons
@andertons 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy the challenge videos! We've got plenty more in the works but make sure to let us know what else you would like to see!
@mrroye
@mrroye 3 жыл бұрын
@@andertons UNLES I MISSSED IT, cOMPARE A sANS AMP original vs reissue. fewer bells and whistles but isn't that what your pedal board is for? for my ignorance, What re these IR's evey one mentions?
@AmoreMusicale
@AmoreMusicale 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking of selling my Kemper stage for the simplify. The Kemper is Great but don’t want to edit as much as I do.
@GoTellJesusSaves
@GoTellJesusSaves 10 күн бұрын
That Walrus room verb sound excellent through my monitors!
@djklinger1627
@djklinger1627 3 жыл бұрын
I'm seriously considering adding that ACS1 to the end of my board for wet-dry-wet. Take a low-watt tube amp to the gig for real crunch, then split off into stereo effects and the ACS1 running fender on one side and vox on the other.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 жыл бұрын
Latency would maybe cause phase issues?
@kelvinfunkner
@kelvinfunkner 8 ай бұрын
no real guitar player would be "hard pressed" to tell the difference....the ONLY one that even sounds remotely close to the real amp is the WALRUS! And no...I don't own one, I'm not associated with the company, I'm just a regular everyday guitar player.
@alessandrodecarli2462
@alessandrodecarli2462 Жыл бұрын
Y’see, I absolutely HATE Strymon so for me evvvverything is better than’em! 😂😂 seriously, as Pete says, I thing the Walrus and the Humboldt have the better palette where construct your sound. And probably (for me) the Humboldt wins because of its nature of analog pedal. I play since 1989 with transistor Amps and, even if I have very good valve amp like Rivera, Peavey and Fender, I still use my couple of Peavey American Bandit 112 from USA! And my sound has builted ‘round them. That’s why I prefer the Humboldt…it looks like my favourites amplifiers more than the others…😊
@frankgeick3641
@frankgeick3641 3 жыл бұрын
I have the first gen DSM (for guitar and another for bass). Love them DI'd into Abelton. The Walrus ACS1 had "magic tones" and I am tempted to buy, but Andertons didn't fiddle with the tone controls, so don't know if the DSM could achieve better Vox sound. I record with Radial Engineering's Shotgun into a mixing desk so I can have up to four guitar effects/amp channels from a single guitar. That makes me prefer the DSM, for it's 2 channel function. The walrus has midi control, and uploadable custom IR's; which could be a game changer.
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 3 жыл бұрын
I was intrigued by the first Simplifier. But when I saw the DLX, i didn't even finish the video before I bought one
@skylerlovell1780
@skylerlovell1780 3 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player in a church, stage noise is a pretty big deal. This is good stuff, definitely piques my interest. Thanks dudes.
@andertons
@andertons 3 жыл бұрын
A great solution to eliminate stage noise and get a decent sounding guitar tone at the end of it. Glad this video has helped and make sure to let us know which pedal was your favourite.
@skylerlovell1780
@skylerlovell1780 3 жыл бұрын
@@andertons The Walrus sounded great, right out of the gate, and then just kept sounding great. Although, none of them sounded bad, the Walrus sounded the most "open" and lush to my ears.
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 3 жыл бұрын
I was ready to accept the fact that Atomic made a product equal to the others at a much cheaper price until I realized it still costs $399.99
@halvach1998
@halvach1998 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, this bougie corksniffer territory... I'll stick with my Joyos...
@NomaDL2224
@NomaDL2224 2 жыл бұрын
You can find used Mark 1 AFB for like half the cost.....
@palitolitola
@palitolitola Жыл бұрын
Dude !! You got me at 4:36!!!! AMAZING!!!!! That's the low end I love in amps and walrus has done it !!! Thanks for this review!! I mean it !!!!!!
@joetheman74
@joetheman74 Жыл бұрын
The Walrus HANDS DOWN stomps a mud hole in the Strymon. The walrus is the best sounding one up there. The Stryrmon clean sounds to harsh and the gain sound is like farty poo. Very flubby bottom end. The walrus has a great vintage classic rock sound. That gives you the option of using pedals to achieve a more modern gain sound if desired.
@tecschooldropout
@tecschooldropout 2 жыл бұрын
I have both simplifiers, I like the classic more than the DLX. I've found it to be plenty "inspiring" relative to a regular amp, I used to have a Twin Reverb reissue and I love the room filling sound and the smell of the tubes as much as anyone else, but with an amp on my pedalboard I can plug up headphones and play at full volume anywhere, I can track songs on a mixer easily, go into an interface easily, and I'm not worried about moving around an amp or mics or sound treatment to get consistently good audio. Tonight I tried running the Simplifier into a JHS Colour Box, and that was absolutely phenomenal. I think the DLX would be right for someone who is using the amp for more tone shaping, plans to switch channels mid-song or something. But since I mostly use it for a clean tone to pair with my pedals and don't change it all, the classic is fine for me.
@tomaszsiejko6562
@tomaszsiejko6562 2 жыл бұрын
Having both versions do you hear any tonal differences between classic and dlx for clean fendery tones? I definitely want to buy a Simplifier but not sure which version. If the base sound is the same and dlx just offers more options I would probably go for the classic one. I don't need much gain as I will put some pedals in front on it. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
@tecschooldropout
@tecschooldropout 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszsiejko6562 I think the classic sounds exactly the same as the DLX. The added features aren't really worth it unless you want two channels, that's the biggest selling point for me. But honestly, as a pedal platform, I've been having the best results bypassing the preamp circuit in the Simplifier and only using a cab sim. I actually took it out of my rig and I'm just using a Cabzeus Mono instead and it sounds the best by far. I figured that out while playing with the switches on the simplifier because I kept running out of headroom with too many distoritions and overdrives on, and it sounded best without the preamp circuit engaged. That was an expensive lesson to learn. So instead now I'm running into an EQ pedal and then the Cabzeus, or even without an end of chain eq if I have enough tonal control earlier in the chain. It's still nice having the Simplifiers as recording and streaming tools when jamming with friends, and they sound great as amps on their own, but it's overkill for someone who wants a clean pedal platform, and in my experience actually made the tone worse by being in the chain. All you need is an EQ and an IR.
@tecschooldropout
@tecschooldropout 10 ай бұрын
@@user-qd6qk1wt4n not sure what you mean by that, it comes out at line level so my interface picked it up just fine. I sold both of them though. I just plug my guitar straight into my interface now and use helix native.
@SamVieiraGuitar
@SamVieiraGuitar 5 ай бұрын
Ive been using an amp sim straight to mixer for a while now. Its nice to have control over the volume and and noise in the room. Its also easier to get a good tone. But the last few days ive beel gigging and rehearsing with a real amp, an old marshall valvestate 8080. Its amazing to feel that amp in the room sound. I mean, I like amp sims, but nothing replaces the amp next to you, specially if you play with an acoustic drummer.
@Frostensen
@Frostensen Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison but I can't help but wonder why people seem to keep avoiding BluG Amp 1 for these kind of discussions?
@RulgertGhostalker
@RulgertGhostalker 11 ай бұрын
How About An Apples Vs. Apples, i would like to hear an Origin Effects vs. Simplifier.
@andrewcontois4522
@andrewcontois4522 Жыл бұрын
The Iridium sucks. I bought it an hate it. Doesn't sound like a fender Amp at all. The clean is not clean and has bad distortion of sound when trying to be clean. Fender amps are real clean. And it sounds like it distorts in a bad way, not a good way. Not worth the money at all. I bought a preamp cab sim pedal that is over seas and it cost 250 bucks less that sounded a hundred times better. Strymon on this standard is awful. If you go direct no Amp.
@deepseadiver8191
@deepseadiver8191 2 жыл бұрын
What any speaker cabinet simulator does primarily is… simulates a cabinet, duh! Specifically how a speaker rolls of certain frequencies. What is the comparison with the real amp worth if in this setup the speaker/cabinet is skipped and the amp connected to the Captor X ??
@markio5830
@markio5830 Жыл бұрын
Walrus smashed the clean, SImplifer smashed the overdriven, didn’t like the Victory sound in this test
@dntinpalevo
@dntinpalevo 3 жыл бұрын
Why oh why have you used a Victory amp instead of an ACTUAL Fender amp? We get it, you want to support local brands because of Brexit, but please do proper comparisons.
@jonadavies
@jonadavies 3 жыл бұрын
They all sound great but there is something in the sound that is missing...besides tubes. The Humboldt looks more complicated to dial in than my Mark V
@stevesmith3990
@stevesmith3990 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to compare these to the Joyo/Ammoon/Harley Benton American Sound which costs £25 :)
@tonybroken6353
@tonybroken6353 5 ай бұрын
plenty of pros are using digital with in-ears now and they seem to get on with it because it's convenient and consistent, seems though from Pete's reaction that it's not where near a real amp/cab for feel even if it sounds close, for us amateurs playing small gigs is it worth going ampless?
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 3 жыл бұрын
I think I like the Humboldt simplifier dlx. (next to the two note captor x. If be more apt to buy that for myself...)
@zipporaid
@zipporaid 3 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see the quilter US block they came out with recently vs these, as it has a 25w amp as well
@ExperienceJacob
@ExperienceJacob 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah in my experience the headphones out on the Simplifier is not great, just a heads up. Does sound awesome when you DI it though.
@davedavem
@davedavem 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this video. My GAS for an acoustic guitar is now angry at my GAS for a pedalboard amp.
@lucaszembrzuski
@lucaszembrzuski 3 жыл бұрын
Just drop some mids and use brighter ir in Iridium and it's perfect, (i mean Fender clean and a platform for drive pedals) and im not a Strymon fanboy, i only have one Strymon pedal.
@joek81981
@joek81981 3 жыл бұрын
HEY, there are no real reviews of the Fender Engine Room power supplies. I know that sound like a dumb thing to do a video on, but I think there are things to talk about. I'm about to buy the LVL8 or LVL12 and they're $200+. I'm blind here. Just an idea.
@joek81981
@joek81981 3 жыл бұрын
Even on You-Know-Where-azon, there are literally no reviews.
@mindfall82
@mindfall82 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about selling my Phoenix and just buying 2 of those! Because I've maxed it out and have to use an old cheapo along with it which is actually pretty good, no noise for not being true isolated
@joek81981
@joek81981 3 жыл бұрын
I'm embarrassed to show what I still have.
@daddio307
@daddio307 3 жыл бұрын
How about a video about how DIFFERENT T-style guitars can be/sound?
@ashishdhakal7681
@ashishdhakal7681 3 жыл бұрын
to my ears, acs1 sounds more scooped and rounded. I vibe more with acs1. Sound is a personal choice.
@likelydaily6767
@likelydaily6767 Жыл бұрын
Eq wise and for sheer width of sound, the walrus sounded the best to my ear, but it did also sound a little brittle compared to say the Atomic.
@robbiedigital79
@robbiedigital79 2 жыл бұрын
So potentially a very stupid question but do these actually just drive a speaker cabinet? So I can do away with my head and just use one of these?
@epilefsiul
@epilefsiul 3 жыл бұрын
How about a video on guitar plugins? You could include Guitar Rig 6, Amplitube 5 and Bias FX 2.
@lukasjohansen_4
@lukasjohansen_4 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss!
@maikjoseph
@maikjoseph 3 жыл бұрын
They’re probably not going to do a demo for software products that the store can’t sell.
@lukasjohansen_4
@lukasjohansen_4 3 жыл бұрын
@@maikjoseph ahh yeah, you’re right
@epilefsiul
@epilefsiul 3 жыл бұрын
@@maikjoseph at least they can sell audio interfaces, expression pedals and midi foot controllers... but I understand why they prefer the real thing
@murrayguitarpickups9545
@murrayguitarpickups9545 3 жыл бұрын
The simplifier looks very complicated i feel like I've been lied to lol
@alexforget
@alexforget Жыл бұрын
Put a Zoom G1 Four that got every effect, tuner, looper, drum machine at 100$ to see if we hear any difference
@NoCoverCharge
@NoCoverCharge 2 жыл бұрын
I just recorded with a origin revival drive into a story on iridium into a di and man was blown away by the sound I got…first time people asked me how I got such killer guitar sounds
@toploadtele
@toploadtele Жыл бұрын
The ACS1 for me... and it isn't even close🤣
@crunch_amp9282
@crunch_amp9282 Жыл бұрын
It's still a guitar amplifier Man these videos just keep getting worse
@mattsrick6041
@mattsrick6041 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasee! test the New Nux AmpAcademy Pedal! THXXX
@gorillacharlie
@gorillacharlie 3 жыл бұрын
Recently got the Atomic after much debating and it's excellent so far. It does so much more than the others on this list, with built in gate, compression, od/distortion/fuzz, reverb and delay, more amp sims as well as the ability to load your own ir's. It works on my pedalboard battery pack and it can send one signal out to the PA with ir's turned on and one out to a cab with them off (not sure if the others have this ability). For me, it has replaced my (admitedly small) pedal board except for the tuner. Most gigs I play are abroad and you can never rely on getting decent gear so was looking for something to nulify this issue and hopefully this will do the trick...will find out post-covid I guess!
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the sound of that one the best with external pedal drive/distortion.
@mrroye
@mrroye 3 жыл бұрын
for my ignorance, What re these IR's evey one mentions?
@erwinalmazan9214
@erwinalmazan9214 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrroye impulse response, simulates micd cabinets
@Henry77680
@Henry77680 3 жыл бұрын
One things that is not often said is that most people use those pedals for low volume playing and for good quality home recording
@jayfender4486
@jayfender4486 3 жыл бұрын
Joyo ACTone, $25 used. Fantastic tone.
@cowboydestroy
@cowboydestroy 3 жыл бұрын
there we go, problem solver
@wonderwalls3565
@wonderwalls3565 Жыл бұрын
How can you tell your brain that its not a pedal but an AMP when your brain knows that its a pedal? and how do you tell your brain?
@KentuckyWindage22
@KentuckyWindage22 3 жыл бұрын
Quilter Phantom Block for the win!
@seitsen
@seitsen 3 жыл бұрын
The Marshall sound in the Walrus in based on Marshall Bluesbreaker amp.
@EshockT
@EshockT 9 ай бұрын
Simplifier hands down but I hear it doesn’t take pedals well, at least in front.
@StavK
@StavK 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for the great videos and effort to evaluate products for us. Just throwing a thought out in the webverse, the Strymon EQ stack changes for each model, especially with the Vox model. Where with the Mid control at its left most setting there is no treble attenuation, and as you turn the knob to the right treble is attenuated. Just noticed that in the video the control was at noon, which would make the Vox model sound darker in this instance.
@danielmorey7826
@danielmorey7826 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the market for the Iridium and then they week I decided to take the plunge, the ACS1 went on sale so I went with ACS1. Other have mentioned it is meant to be edge of breakup pedal platform which suits me just fine. I would love to be able to run my AC15 at the edge of breakup but it is too loud for the setting I get to play, so I had to really dial it back to where it was just clean and no breakup. So, for me this is a good solution. In isolation the ACS1 is harsher than the Iridium, but find often what sound what sound great in isolation gets lost in context. I find the ACS1 sound very realistic in context. Though if you need the Plexi sound without an overdrive then Iridium is probably a better fit.
@reheheheheehehehehehhehehe1692
@reheheheheehehehehehhehehe1692 2 жыл бұрын
Bs. Just turn on your boost pedal along with the iridium. It will sound just as “real” as the ACS1.
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE being able to plug my pedalboard directly into the venue's mixing board. No amplifier or speaker cab needed. A pedalboard and ONE guitar in the back seat of your car is THE ONLY way to travel from gig to gig.
@mrroye
@mrroye 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I am 60, I have to agree.
@andrewmcclelland7346
@andrewmcclelland7346 3 жыл бұрын
Could you try running them through a powercab rather than monitors?
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 3 жыл бұрын
The Walrus ACS-1 actually sounded better without the room sound. What is amazing about all of these devices is that every single one of them produces an acceptable sound for recording. I use the original DSM/Humboldt Simplifier, and I love it. I just trying to figure out whether I need the DLX, or whether the original still covers my needs.
@michaelyolch79
@michaelyolch79 8 ай бұрын
UK: Invents the phrase, “Get on with it.” UK: Cannot get on with it.
@RobertFisher1969
@RobertFisher1969 3 жыл бұрын
I choose the original Simplifier because the effects loop + XLR outs means that I don’t have to have another box after my “post-amp” effects to give me XLR outs. Living up to its name, it simplified things that way. The DLX looks cool, but the bigger footprint makes me less interested.
@sordel5866
@sordel5866 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the DLX is very small ... it looks big on videos because you can't believe how much they get into an enclosure that's only the size of two standard pedals. Since it has no foot-switches in the main unit you could also use it to build a micro pedalboard, stowing the main unit away and just switching it from the included footswitch unit. But for me it's a desktop unit and that's where it shines.
@sordel5866
@sordel5866 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the DLX is very small ... it looks big on videos because you can't believe how much they get into an enclosure that's only the size of two standard pedals. Since it has no foot-switches in the main unit you could also use it to build a micro pedalboard, stowing the main unit away and just switching it from the included footswitch unit. But for me it's a desktop unit and that's where it shines.
@ahmettiryakioglu_music
@ahmettiryakioglu_music 10 ай бұрын
Your Victory's are the worst, you hear that ? :D :D :D
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, Denise Pete?
@typedeaf
@typedeaf Жыл бұрын
You two are so honest. I love TPS, but sometimes those two tend to go with what they pre-conceived or something. Fender Clean: Walrus Fender + OD: Atomic or Simplifier Marshall: Iridium or Simplifier Vox: Atomic None of them killed it at all 3 amps.
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