Andre Iguodala Explains Why 'Doing What's Right for the Team' Can Be A Career Death Sentence

Andre Iguodala had a decorated career, but a coaching decision halfway through made Iggy question if his career was "over".
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[@sicklymaad]

That’s why I understand when Giddy asked for a trade and Paul George wants the Max. Never give a billionaire a discount. Thats just crazy.

[@danieltarczynski6559]

Teams rarely if ever show loyalty to a player so players shouldn’t do it.

[@reiserkeiser]

There exist this thing called a salary cap.

[@TalentedTenth]

Bars

[@bestsam2009ify]

Salary caps are literally only there to protect billionaire team owners pockets. I will never feel bad for them. Pay your players, or they leave. Business is business

[@mikeharris8664]

@@bestsam2009ify I"ll never feel bad for either. Millionaires and Billionaires squabbling over money. They're on the same team

[@ElTuco84]

This is why I won't feel sad if Hartenstein decides to go elsewhere and get his bag, he has worked hard and has been under the radar for a long time.

[@87ondabeat42]

That’s a hard working black man

[@reembright4231]

Solid big

[@danieltarczynski6559]

It’s a business first and foremost, I just hope if he leaves it’s for a lot more money not a “marginal” amount.

[@sunnyside9273]

Pro sports careers are short , they have to max or attempt to max off of their potential. It is logical.

[@NBA-LejonBrames]

Unless he's trying to win

[@BuhdeeProductions]

Business will always be business.

[@true3605]

There’s no loyalty in business they don’t love you back

[@shanevoroninii7512]

Dre wanted that ring and he got it. Mission accomplished.

[@YouTubecensoredme-]

Never do what's best for the business.

[@PacsMental]

even in everyday corporate america, you look out for you

[@Kingme3144]

​@@PacsMental🎯

[@Lawrencethebarbarian]

After seeing how the league treated Melo late in his career, I understand why he took the monster contract in New York over the “more team friendly” offer from Chicago. It can be about the money for owners, coaches, and shareholders but not players 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dudutsulugulugan2911]

Thats why he didnt win. At the end of his career he became obsolete and shunned. He should have taken the smart move. Whats a few more millions compared to winning.

[@brandonsantiago2298]

But what bothers me about these guys is that he was already a multimillionaire guy, he’s got a show contract, endorsements and multimillion dollar nba contract. Why not take a pay cut to win?

[@Lawrencethebarbarian]

Plenty of modern teams have won with their top players all taking the supermax. As they stated and even Mark Cuban has said it once players take a huge salary pay cut and the situation doesn’t work out they already lowered their market value. He did make the smart move. Both D Rose and Joakim suffered catastrophic injuries the following season and a half and Melo would’ve probably been out the league sooner. The logic of “these guys are already millionaires” doesn’t hold weight when the owners are already BILLIONAIRES. This isn’t the NFL. There’s no hard cap, owners can pay the luxury tax if they really want to win too. Miami did it in the LeBron era and KD with Golden State. Championships galore and no pay cuts in sight

[@the77th]

Klay Thompson watching this doing the birdman hand rub 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@stevechen1991]

An athletes career is about 8-12 years max, lucky if you can get to 15. Get all the money you can, championship and accolades are for public to debate. Money is alwayssss the priority in a job!

[@Dipset415]

Fasholy especially if it’s an organization like the A’s

[@jumpman366]

uhh your career average statement is way too high and not even accurate

[@chisaegbelu9171]

8-12??? lol you way off bro

[@Mad_Intalect]

@@chisaegbelu9171 Yeah fr, it's lower on average. 8-12+ is an elite player with minimal injuries.

[@mrudhul696]

If you know you can get over that hump and win a ring...go for it no doubt.. But if you know You're not "that guy" hell yeah make hay while.the sunshines .. coz once you retire nobody is gonna talk about how many u won or how much you made

[@ruthlessrafael3195]

Your boys are talking to you, Klay.

[@derrickjwj]

Klay coming to the knicks. Let's get a 3 way trade going on to get rid of Julius

[@dalton7726]

Klay got 2.5 years on a max deal to not play. Lmao

[@mckricks1]

Lol Klay has has had many big contracts

[@AlldatJazz-rw9wy]

Man Klay, ain't old Klay. Be honest. That achilles is gonna make him struggle, and you can tell he thinks about it too much. With a injury like that, it's never as it was. Klay better take what's offered the most, and 25 mill, is the most anyone team is gonna give him. He needs to change his approach to the game, or he will be gone in 2 to 3, years.

[@mckricks1]

@@AlldatJazz-rw9wy Yeah 25 mil would be more than a fair offer with the Warriors. He didn't play for 2 and a half years on a max. Yet he wants another long-term max while not being anywhere near the same guy.

[@Handle4139]

Demarcus cousins made this mistake when he signed for the warriors at 5 mil only. Even though he was coming back from an injury, he should’ve signed else where for more money.

[@orangeninja912]

He should have taken the 2 year/$40 million from the Pelicans and rehabbed at his own pace

[@robgreene9680]

@@orangeninja912wanted that ring bad

[@iamjamesmeeks]

Basketball Gods got him

[@michaelpatterson148]

@@robgreene9680 maybe, but the narrative of him would shift if they won a ring and he produced a lil would easily got another contract

[@DJBlackoutMusic]

​@michaelpatterson148 it's all a gamble. Making it to the league is a gamble in itself. At the end of the day all of these guys are playing with the houses money once you get a couple contracts under you.

[@IIxXxmattxXxII]

Iggy played less than 2 full seasons over his last 4 years. He retired at 39 years old. They making it out to seem like Iggy was still in his prime taking a backseat. He could barely even get on the court at the end of his career.

[@regice5650]

He’s talking about when he went to the bench with GSW.

[@ogz7469]

Not to mention he was fighting for his life as a starter, 😅😅😅

[@serpserpserp]

@@regice5650 He went to the bench and got big bag!

[@soldierbreed]

I mean if we being honest he was not that guy

[@5.0truck]

and melo acting like he was still a top dog when they had him coming off the bench. thats where his ass belonged.

[@TheOtherMJ_76]

Do what’s best for you. If you win a ring, great. The team doesn’t care about you. As soon as it even looks like you’re slowing down they will jettison you. Fans try to frame it as selfish, but 99.9% of them will never have to make decisions regarding millions of dollars. All you hear today is how it is good for the employee to be mobile. “Look for the better position” no matter if it means changing companies or even professions. The days of the 20-30 year company man are over. In everyday life and certainly in sports.

[@antoinebutler4056]

Carmelo questions seems like he asking himself questions because that’s what we needed

[@KSmanderes]

I feel conflicted about this. It seems like sometimes when guys sacrifice for years and stay with a team (Pippen, Zeke, Iggy, etc) it can lead to the team winning if the front office builds a championship caliber team. But the players don't get what they're worth and are often an injury away from being discarded by the team. The loyalty doesn't seem worth it for most

[@patrickmalabuyo]

As a musician, I can relate how this concept of undervaluing myself has diminished my career.

[@Andrezseventeen17]

Correct me if I’m wrong but …WEREN’T THESE GUYS CLEARLY NOT WHO THEY ONCE WERE WHEN THIS HAPPENED TO THEM???

[@AngeloBx]

Exactly, acting like we didn’t have eyes

[@ChazW93]

I wont cap. This pod’s takes are top tier. 💪🏾

[@BigOdog]

Happening to klay rn

[@SupaNatural28]

Not really. Teams see that Klay's skills is declining with Steph next to him. They're visioning what his decline would look like without Steph. Dude didn't have a great handle or moves in the first place now he maybe declining on top of that.

[@y2kdamudurag]

Klay not playing like Klay, this was the WORST EXAMPLE 😂🤣

[@dashayatoney4430]

Dreadful example, for one Klay clearly isn't the player he used to be. For two he got paid a 5 year max averaging over 40 mil a year, when he was rehabbing his acl injuries for 2.5 years.

[@TheHiphop98]

​@@SupaNatural28it is the same cuz he will get paid somewhere else

[@SupaNatural28]

@TheHiphop98 yea but it's not the same as the conversation Iggy, Melo are talking about. Warriors didn't put klay in a box. Iggy was saying the fact that he was a team guy and came off the bench when he should've been a starter ultimately hurt the rest of his career, because warriors put him in the "hes a team player" category. With Klay, though, the dude served his purpose for the warriors. His skills are declining so now it's time to look to the future.

[@daneharris2242]

Just came across this channel. Very enlightening takes on it . Actually learning a lot about what goes on behind the scenes

[@rodneysam3574]

The financial difference between 1st round and second round picks is significant. Isiah Collier was drafted as the 29th pick in the 1st RD. He was only two picks away from the second round. He gets 2.5 million for 4 years. If he was drafted in the second, his contract wouldn't have been guaranteed and he would have to sign for the league minimum or get a two-way contract. 1st round total contract is 12 million. Second round league minimum for rookies is 1 million. I understand why players who were projected to be a 1st round pick are upset when they drafted in the second round.

[@jman1562001]

And now he's got a two yr window, 3 if one of those yrs. is good to try and make up the difference. Excel at the role, or be relegated to a backup or third guard off the bench situation.

[@geoffl]

interesting detail on what happens when you sacrifice for the team

[@ainsleypagon8261]

It should be a win-win, that is why I like Lebron’s approach - Lakers show him loyalty by drafting Bronny; he is willing to take a pay cut to make his team better. That’s leverage! BOSS

[@user-sx5fn8yo5s]

Stop it ill hoop lebron and his son right now

[@user-sx5fn8yo5s]

Ill hoop lebron and his son right now

[@Garf_malarf]

I always loved turner when he played for the Celtics. Dude helped them become a playoff team again

[@thehighearners]

A lot of players play some of their best basketball in Boston, including Evan Turner. Boston knows how to maximize a players strengths.

[@diplomatboy21]

Hate the Celtics but you are right ....they do develop players

[@redman6790]

Yeah... IT4 would certainly approve of this

[@julianbashir8277]

Demarcus Cousins should still be in the league

[@GoodfellasX21]

If his personality didn't suck at work yeah

[@axucaroso]

Know your worth and know your values. Never let a boss determine either. Sacrifices are for family.

[@JWandoe]

As a coach, would it be a good idea to show this clip to my(their) players?

[@KFordmusic]

Once you take less it’ll never go back up

[@apng8879]

False

[@KFordmusic]

@@apng8879 name an aging athlete that took less money, then got more on the next contract

[@heigherheights21]

​@@apng8879 😂😂😂 it will never go back up 🤡

[@apng8879]

@KFordmusic ur not getting it, ur talking finesse business, im talking authenticity. If u were worth it at that given time the market will pay you as such. So all them dudes if the couldnt get the bread, then that wasn't their value 🙄 teams may be wrong, but it is what it is, when ur on the margins and not a certified allnba guy, in given yr 🤷🏿‍♂️#athleteExcuses.

[@KFordmusic]

@@apng8879 name a pro sports franchise that does Authentic business 😭 what are you talking about? There are no morals in this.

[@AaronLesterMedia]

But y'all get mad at LeBron for not taking a pay cut. He knows his worth.

[@wesleycarter7775]

Bron got more money than his gm tho lol I hope he opt out and take a pay cut so we can improve the team

[@chiggsytube]

LeBron gets you the 9 seed. He's getting paid on who he was, not who he is.

[@skaylingop9673]

@@chiggsytubebrain dead take. His production is still unreal

[@malcolmpuhawan3695]

Half of what he's getting because he only plays offense

[@kaydevious]

@@skaylingop9673 because defense is non-existent and he gets bailed out by the refs. he also quits and doesnt run back on defense constantly because he's sulking over not getting a call or missing an easy shot, leaving his team to play 4v5 on the break. anyone else would be condemned for doing that, other than luka. he does the same shit, only playing one side of the ball

[@markmittens]

When Evan Turner said that it stuck with me too.

[@williamli3872]

Part of the reason the Warriors won 3 chips is because Iguodala helped keep the second unit competitive. I'm not sure why he is arguing that decision especially when a case can be made his career was extended for 4 seasons because of his perceived veteran leadership. Then Melo is talking as if there were teams looking to give him a payday after his time with the Knicks. These stars have to understand that it is very rare for teams to build around players over age 30. You may still be getting 20-25 PPG but that's because the system is feeding you the ball, if you're not giving your team a chance to be in the conference finals or better, you get 2-3 tries before they give someone else a chance.

[@JamesJacksonFilmz]

There’s 10s to 100s million reasons why he was rightfully mad to come off the bench

[@jman1562001]

Plus if you taking 20-49 shots a night.....you SHOULD be making 20-25 PPG. Problem with Melo was never getting buckets, it was GETTING STOPS. If you can't Stop the Opposition from scoring, it leans more on who making the shots for the night. The best guys HAVE to do other things to impact winning to make up the difference.

[@rayleigh8]

Forget about championships and team. Try to get the most money you can get.

[@CTEagleCeltic]

People don’t remember Iggy was the Dude in Philly, post AI… that was it before “the process”.

[@serpserpserp]

I think guys need to realize at the end of their careers they need to choose wisely. Look at Klay right now, he could probably get 18-20mln a season with the Warriors for another 2 or 3 seasons and he can always be useful and effective for them and possibly get another contract. Or he can sign somewhere else and get 22-25mln for 3 seasons and potentially not be a good fit or flame out within a season, and his career is over or he is buried on the bench. Then he'll be dealing with buyouts and trying to scrape onto any roster. Sure you can feel disrespect, sure you can make slightly more dollars elsewhere, or you can make a little bit less money, be effective, and finish your career where you want to. Heck, take less money and put a no trade clause in your contract. Too many players (like Melo) think it is a mindset thing, no bro, you were clearly not superstar money at a certain point, getting injured, not being effective, terrible on defense (which you can only do if you put up an efficient 20-25ppg a night). At some point you need to realize where you are at in the game, and solidify the position you want to be in to round out your career. A lot of good NBA players just miss reading the room on their career until it is too late.

[@heigherheights21]

I can see you don't value yourself 😂😂😂😂 why would Klay do that when there are worse players than him making bigger money. Learn how to negotiate your worth once you devalue yourself do will the organization.

[@chrisjacobs9101]

@@heigherheights21 it’s not really devaluing yourself when you already have 100 million in the bank I value myself enough to make over $100 million but I’m at the tail end of my career I’d rather be realistic with myself then try and play this game of ego and say hey I’m still top dog and if I’m in klays position, I’ll probably be looking more for fit then money at this point in my career

[@javongreen8492]

Bro he’s 34 and he’s been regressing every year as a player idk if those are even good deals for him.

[@Mdubkc]

@@heigherheights21 He turned down an extension which would hay paid 24m's per year last summer to stay on a winning team. He will be lucky to get that from a non-contender this summer.

[@DanielEscamillaPueblo]

He turned down 24 million a year for 16 million a year.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

At first I didn't agree with Iggy but then when he talked about the 200 million difference with Scotty Barnes I was f the team. I am not coming off the bench. I am not Manu.

[@JWandoe]

Tough take! The all-time 6th man list would be a great Euroball team.

[@bronxriverchinobrown2856]

I see melo with the tidewater tides fitted… shouts out to the 757!!

[@PR-ux5mg]

At a certain point a NBA player needs to decide when they made enough money and is it time for them to think about their legacy 🤷‍♂️. Money goes away legacy is forever

[@TheOtherMJ_76]

That legacy only matters to sports fan. The majority of people in the world don’t even know who you are, and couldn’t care less about your sports legacy. Make the money, be smart with it, and set yourself up for the future as well as your offspring.

[@PR-ux5mg]

@@TheOtherMJ_76 you clearly can’t see past the money and see the bigger picture. You got guys making almost 60 million a year. I think they can afford to take a pay cut after several huge contract opportunities and think about where a championship/championships would leave them when the hall of fame comes around

[@denzela5539]

​@@TheOtherMJ_76 You are so right! I agree with you.

[@denzela5539]

​@@PR-ux5mg hahahaha😅😅😅. Legacy don't mean shit, it doesn't do anything for the players, like the guy above said. What can do a lot for the players and their families is money. Money is what matters.

[@juliusedwards7199]

I understand what they are saying, but as a coach or GM your job is to win games not worry about how much money somebody is making. I don’t think it’s always being shady on their part. As a player you have to make a decision about what is most important to you. Winning versus making a few more dollars. Ain’t mad at either, they both have to look out for what’s best for them.

[@pendleton123]

Players realizing taking pay cuts "For a ring" makes no sense. Make your money and support your family

[@namenamed8879]

It’s doesn’t make since for role players, but for stars it can be in investment in yourself to make more on the backend if you win rings

[@TheRealMusic4Life]

I hear these guys, and I think they should get all the money they can while they can. BUT - I would also like these guys to be honest that yes, a player's value does drop as they get older. Speed and agility is a young man's game! Prime playing years are like a woman's prime beauty years - it's undeniable.

[@amuntakhar6081]

Evan Turner was so underrated

[@L0ngstrip]

There's a difference between a pay cut early and a pay cut after you get bags. If you have not won anything, you should take a pay cut after you get a few bags.

[@ivanivanovski1]

Makes sense because you also need great/starter caliber players in the second squad. If you don't have depth you basically can't compete in the playoffs.

[@julianbashir8277]

What happened to Iggy and Turner podcast?

[@omenihu]

Turner had the worst voice

[@DarryllEverett]

There might be an Andre on every block but not a MJ !

[@BGeezy4sheezy]

Elite athletes are rare. Elite who athletes who maximize their talent with hard work are even rarer.

[@tomimdawodu6808]

That’s what a lot of pure elite hoopers forget about the NBA that it is a business more than it is 100% all basketball the NBA is high level sports corporate job social politics matter, hierarchy matters, relationships and connections matter big time with coaching staff and GMs the money matters they not playing you even if you’re Bette than the starting point guard cause the GMs just gave their starting point guards a lot ! got a homie right now being sidelined by the 76ers due to the guys of the coaching staff wanting to prioritize their own guys they ‘re friends with getting a contract over my friend who is 10x better than them in the 76ers words …. It’s crazy

[@basementvybz309]

Jay Z said it best. I’m not a businessman. I’m a business….man. A millionaire saving money for billionaires is crazy.

[@MalikEKC]

Only reason an NBA player should consider a paycut is if there's a good reason to be in one city vs the other

[@granpaking508]

And now you see how the Warriors are falling apart without Andrew Iguodala

[@HaHa-gy5vg]

Two old dogs that tried to hang on way past their time. Iggy was injured his entire last two seasons

[@bleedwolf5]

Athletes should always be Business first!

[@KeepingItJoah]

melo needs to play in the big 3

[@moneyball647]

Melo acting he was still that guy. lol. The delusion on this guy. When he went to OKC and they were asking him to come off the bench and he wouldn't --- that's because you weren't that guy anymore. Even Andre with the Warriors -- he wasn't that same guy in Philly. But he was still an excellent player but it was better for the rotation that he comes off the bench.

[@t-god2439]

Most of the clips I see from this podcast are melo delusions imo like he can’t be honest with himself

[@look-out-4-1-another]

Damn, the business side is almost more interesting than gameplay.

[@Skipsterr_91]

You have to play your cards as best as possible, look at porzinguis. Not all players are lucky enough to land on a good team

[@haywardsmartin1923]

Welcome to Corporate America!

[@redman6790]

Yep... they may not be working a 9-5 but they certainly still a part of its corporate culture.

[@daj_leo4417]

hard not to think about Bronny’s situation while listening to this

[@apples2481]

In what way?

[@daj_leo4417]

@@apples2481 just hearing what ppl saying. You get it how you get it. I’m looking forward to seeing the development of the Lakers in ‘25.

[@levantz]

Melo chased the bag when he could have played for Miami

[@JWandoe]

Decisions that keep you up at night!

[@chiggsytube]

Wrong time for him. Secure the bag. Then chase rings.

[@balthorpayne]

@@chiggsytube Facts. Looking back on it now, he chose the right path. He could have been odd-man out on his money playing under Lebron and DWade.

[@jumpman366]

Playing for MIA would have sped his decline… lol nobody except a role player (and Kyrie) thrives under Lebron

[@PaperChaserLa]

Wouldn’t have been the best move tho, said he needed that bag first, that was his first big contract, life comes before basketball Brody, his biggest mistake in terms of a ring was not going to Chicago in 2014, he would’ve for sure got a ring with Chicago his first season there, that i remember vividly, still crazy how he chose the bag over THAT specific situation, the Miami situation was way too soon into his career, that was even before Lebron made the official decision to leave Cleveland, because he signed a deal that was longer than brons, bron became a free agent and Melo had one more year left on his contract in 2010-11 which is why he was traded in that 2010-2011 season

[@icecoldac3]

They used the salary cap as a major excuse.

[@BarryESchwartz]

Melo wanted to be that guy again and the Rockets and Blazers were like nah

[@mrwells65]

Ya iggy did what was best for the team with the grizzlies

[@marvinholley5838]

Melo and Andre both actually have the same career yet different outcomes.

[@dealerman2024]

What? Hell no. Melo was a star for most of his career

[@gt-gu7rb]

So true. What happened to Carmelo happened to Iverson, Westbrook and now its happening to Harden. The all star caliber player who never won it all towards the end of his career is suddenly told he needs to charge his game and its bullshit, because NOW its a problem, now? When that guy has been playing this way for 10 years if not longer. Its a false narrative. Just like this year when everyone, Windhurst, Big Perk, Steven A were talking about Luka wasn't playing defense in the finals. Dude ain't been playing defense since he got in the league. Sorry its a bit late to be bringing that up now. It too is a false narrative. What you see is what you get.

[@doc_antonio6998]

Multiple things can be true. 1.) These amazing men/athletes earned and deserved every penny they made. 2.) Their perspective on money is heavily distorted when you look at millions of dollars as “pennys.” I’d imagine they make so many sacrifices (personal and professional), but I just wish they’d acknowledge they are part of the 1% financially.

[@franknashty]

Wasn’t Melo having a sook when Houston offered J.Lin’s contract? 😳

[@straightlead8]

Only look after yourself

[@ninerempire3398]

There’s a thing called the salary cap. Some people value winning and some want the money. You just gotta find the players that put winning over everything else

[@jl8138]

Just a couple dudes who still haven't come to grips with the fact that they aged

[@demigodt34]

I can tell you don't hoop probably only in 2k😂

[@jl8138]

@@demigodt34 I can tell you were born in a year that starts with the number 2 because you can't tell the difference between a basketball topic and a business topic

[@demigodt34]

@@jl8138 that sounds smart to someone stupid respectfully

[@karllorenzobabiano6328]

well he chose the warriors over the nuggets. at the end of the day everything is his choice.

[@coreyjaycecrowe4419]

And he had the best time of his career coming off the bench 🤷🏽

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

How you know

[@coreyjaycecrowe4419]

@@johnnybuchananjr9344 because we watched his whole career??

[@GinessyKaige]

He didn't have to is the point.

[@L0ngstrip]

Iggy, stop it, man. Turner was always injured at that point.

[@julianbashir8277]

Why does the NBA have these ridiculous cap restrictions but baseball doesnt?

[@moses0686]

To prevent mass tanking by signing vet minimums and for good teams in small to midsized markets to have the best chance to keep their stars. Think what would happen if both LA teams, both NYC teams, Houston, Dallas and Miami, Golden State and possibly chicsgo had as equal of a chance to sign the top free agents as the team they are on chances to keep them. It would be a feeding frenzy.

[@michaelwhite9288]

It’s a company bro! They just tricked you into thinking it’s a team. It’s an entertainment business. It’s still corporate America. Their (if retail it would be HR) job is to get the best talent for the cheapest price. Never take a pay cut! All you did was decrease your own value. 🤦‍♂️

[@monkeymoo87]

The older you get the harder it is for you unless you’re a generational talent like Lebron or Curry

[@goofywill90]

The amount of money MSG makes, this Rose shouldn't be so cheap. Dem tickets ain't cheap. He'll make that money back 10 fold if he invests in this squad. It's like a regular boss this want max results for little work & responsibility on their end.

[@adgee5401]

He went from Carmelo to Melo back to Carmelo. Easiest way to understand it.

[@richschneiderman613]

You win finals MVP and multiple chips because you accepted less money n came off the bench take the good with the bad ...hell you still a millionaire only you got the hardware also

[@acewalker.3915]

Why do they think they deserve a max contract for just being there

[@iamwesleyfrazier]

Business is Business…….😉

[@Cory-zn5mq]

Nobody told you to ride golden state coat tails after they beat you, you was the best player in Denver and left to be a 3rd option

[@mrdmajor]

Fans actively judge players because players have more in common with the fans. Wealthy team owners know this and constantly use that to their advantage. Read KZbin comments, you'll rarely see complaints about owners and GM violations but you'll see "mid" "lame" "trash" "Le[every word]" about players regardless if they make moves for their own benefit or not. Team owners know this, and have a field day with it.

[@ebrat4318]

But melo did not sacrifice

[@amb86]

These two here are either being ignorant of the situations they were in, dilutional about they fading abilities (more on melo), or being disingenuous about their situations

[@reiserkeiser]

HOT TAKE: A player should be able to take as little money as he wants. Not everyone cares about a "bag". These guys are multi-millionaires many times over. Compromises can be made. However, this logic does not extend to me and you. Also tired of this distinction between players (millionaires) and owners (billionaires). They're all on the same damn team and their squabbles over money, frankly, is pathetic.

[@chiggsytube]

They are not on the same team. Players are labor and owners are management. You need to understand that your rate is your worth in the eyes of rich people. They think you are a bitch for taking less and they will make sure they treat you that way.

[@reiserkeiser]

@@chiggsytube Same class of wealth. They can afford nearly anything with a price. These ppl occupy a completely different strata from the rest of us. Therefore, idgaf about a player whining about not getting 30 million, because 20 is "beneath" him. On the one hand, I have no problem with taking all you can get. BUT it seems way too often the players want us to go "poor so-so! They're ripping him off! Oh no!" on their behalf. I just refuse to do it. You can make it a labor and management thing all you want, fact of the matter is these are EXTREMELY rich and priviliged men, no matter how you slice it.

[@redman6790]

Horrible take and clearly shows you don't know how much of distinction a million & billion is, look it up and you will be shocked.

[@reiserkeiser]

​@@redman6790The distinction between millions and billions is far less than the distinction between millionaires and "thousandaires". They are one. The 0.0001 percent. The generational wealth bunch. The "eff you" money club. Again, I'm not mad about their wealth (the public interest is to thank for it). I'm just not gonna feel sorry for a guy who had to take a paycut. I take a paycut, I'll barely make ends. If they take a paycut? They. Are. Still. Rich. What's killing me is the lack of perspective on this. Layoffs are happening all around us. We're in an inflationary period that seems like it will never end. Most millenials will never own a home. And I gotta hear about some rich person who's bitching about not being MORE rich? Not saying that's what Iggy was doing, but it happens far too often and I roll my eyes.

[@dereksupernaut]

Andre got paid $188 million over his career... his final 10 years in the league he never averaged 10ppg... fax!!!

[@krisnaneruda186]

Sounds like you don’t know basketball his value was far beyond PPG averages… FAX !📠

[@2714shaun]

​@@krisnaneruda186 exactly 💯

[@dereksupernaut]

@@krisnaneruda186 how is $188 million a "career death sentence"???

[@dereksupernaut]

@@2714shaun how is $188 million a "career death sentence"???

[@krisnaneruda186]

@@dereksupernaut it’s about what he was worth not what he has earned…

[@jorad4887]

Theres so much more about what they are not saying, the metrics is something they are not mentiiining because once these metrics go down you might be getting old so look beyond your playing situations and start developing a repoire with the front office and become part of the staff but before you do that behave well and don't go to clubs with a pistol and/or strip clubs, by doing these extracurricular activity may put you out of the running for these few jobs but it seems to me melo cheated on his wife with many girls so he's not going to be in the sports arena talk but there are exceptions like Charles Barkley and shaq

[@mitchrapp5214]

Harden with the 76ers

[@ScootMcNichols]

Carmelo has NEVER in his life been a “team player” or ever could be, end of story. If you were able to be that dude, you woulda given an effort to playing DEFENSE!!! Melo is one of the most selfish ballers that’s ever been, and it’s why you couldn’t get a ring. You don’t deserve one…

[@user-io4sr7vg1v]

Melo is all cap but we've seen it happen.

[@C1assic074]

I love watching the NBA but I hate the politics. I hate what the players have to go through.

[@cooterswift916]

Looks like Mourning

[@DIMI_AUDIO]

😂👀👀

[@jellosmooth6220]

I hear Moses Moody …

[@Corndogg316]

Sounds pretty bitter for a guy with 4 rings. You should be praising Steph and Klay for getting you those rings. Dude gave up a few more Mill for a ring, I think most people make that trade all day.

[@RCTricking]

Ring culture hurts the players’ pockets! Can we stop with it yet? 😵

[@Salam-rw5po]

Why should a millionaire take a pay cut from a billionaire?

[@kouleeofficial]

Melo was playing trash and didnt want to be a bench player. He was making the team worst

[@pawemalczyk2629]

Who off the bench? Me? 😂

[@IncognitoSprax]

Evan Turner really wasn't put in a good situation. Sixers had no idea what they're doing as an organization

[@user-gt4pd9uf2t]

Mfs complaining about getting 80M to come off the bench 😂 I’ll happily sit on the bench for 100k let alone a MILLION or 80M 😂

[@ewwitsdavid97]

What Russell Westbrook going thru

[@manyogurt4645]

4:17 Bronny.

[@selflove9315]

rent free