Andre Iguodala IS BETTER THAN Kawhi

Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew debate if the recently retired Andre Iguodala is a better NBA Player than Kawhi Leonard.
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[@masilomoshesh1475]

Rashad: I'm misunderstood Also Rashad: Iguodala is better than Kawhi. Nigga make it make sense.

[@gorcsauce696]

Think they meant kwai didnt deserve his first mvp as much as Iggy did. But Iggy didn't deserve it either that's all Steph but better argument for Iggy then kwai

[@masilomoshesh1475]

@@gorcsauce696Bro its still a horrible take because of Kawhi's other finals mvp.

[@christopherblake2588]

When you factor in health, and games played it might be a closer argument. Kawhi is still better to me, but wouldn’t be a discussion if Mccants doesn’t take the contrarian point.

[@Raggamuffin007]

No it’s not a close argument lol. Only one of them made top 75

[@adamfeliciano6321]

@Raggamuffin007 anything given by the media shouldn’t be used for an argument, because biases come in. That’s why rings are definitive and why Bron keeps jumping ship for rings.

[@ArtistfkaLuis]

Mccants need to be banned from all conversations regarding basketball

[@Hidalgoes]

I’m not a basketball player. I’m a basketball, player

[@realtexasboy]

Him and gil wrong bron averaged 35 13 and 9!

[@sonofforever1]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq]

I mean!! Iggy Not that Far off,,, Kawhi overrated 🥱

[@Kangthebum]

😂😂😂

[@Capo404cv]

Somebody fire McCant 😂

[@lettalkknicks]

He not wrong tho

[@onlyfactxpodcast]

He really not wrong

[@caesarejones4912]

Fr 😂😂

[@BA22378]

Please

[@santivelosa513]

​@@lettalkknicksyeh tf he is

[@Kicks_n_comics]

How can you discredit Kawhi Finals MVP but not Iggy’s and Lebron averaged 35.8/13.3/8.8???

[@shamerparkinson5382]

First thing i thought

[@Rayohh559]

Lebron didn’t win the finals that’s why

[@Kicks_n_comics]

@@jaylew0952 he did dominate he just didnt have help. And idk what changed from Barnes guarding him and Iggy his numbers didn’t change at all.

[@Kicks_n_comics]

@@jaylew0952 sad when people have no actual proof they go to assumptions. What does Lebron fan have to do with facts. He damn near averaged a triple double. No one stopped nor slowed him down. Literally nothing changed. He didn’t have anyone else that could get the ball in the basket or stop GS that’s why they won not because Iggy clamped down LBJ stop it bro. Show me facts, not nonsense.

[@stanleyholmes8505]

@@Rayohh559Jerry West won the mvp on the loosing team.

[@ctrain3621]

McCants a fool 😂 “we talkin bout hittin a jump shot, a middy.” Like Kawhi isn’t a premier mid range scorer in the league

[@say5070]

I'd say right now he is THE premier mid range scorer

[@daakage]

@@say5070umm… KD?

[@mickelallen8391]

Derozan

[@Poopyturdy]

You tripping kawhi is a bum. He’s not premier anything

[@lamart3857]

Kawhi is 3pt% is 39% for his career that's better than Kd

[@3serio]

“This 🥷🏾 spittin’”- Max Kellerman

[@buFFlosouljah1]

Underrated comment 😂😂

[@majora919]

Max would never say this shit

[@3serio]

@@majora919 not literally. Its a format, and I’m a playing on his “I want Iguodala” speach.

[@majora919]

@@3serio I get that but one of his other crazy takes was Kawhi>Kobe and he pretty much glazed Kawhi whenever possible

[@livefromthemotherland]

Lmfaooo

[@FellatioHoratio]

If you give the 2019 raptors any iteration of Iggy in his career over Kawhi, they lose every time

[@A.D.907]

You sleep 76ers. Iggy was him 🤷‍♂️

[@jcc3333]

Exactly

[@FellatioHoratio]

@@A.D.907 First round exit 4/5 playoff appearances is him eh?

[@A.D.907]

@@FellatioHoratio Kwahi went to an already championship contender twice 😂 What did he do with the Spurs when he was the man but get bounced?

[@FellatioHoratio]

@@A.D.907 Ask any Raptors fan if they think at any time before Kawhi if the Raptors were championship contenders, they'll all say fuck no. Are you talking about the one year he played a full season without Timmy and made the WCF 😂

[@huntercasey569]

That is fucking crazy Kawhi is better at literally everything

[@kileddy436]

I think they jus be saying anything at this point

[@tuxedoebonyx]

He not better than prime Iggy at attacking the basket

[@FunnyCamera-cv8hx]

@@tuxedoebonyx that’s such a niche compared to everything that goes into having a well rounded game

[@carlwallace1129]

​@tuxedoebonyx great point.

[@Augrills]

I can’t even make a case for Iggy being better than Kawhi. There’s not a case for it

[@lettalkknicks]

Y not Iggy wins more plays more help his team be more successful then kawhi

[@tj4lyfe64]

​@@lettalkknicksput some context he ain't did that as a number one option lol

[@joeymanny]

​@@lettalkknicksits like saying horry is better than mj

[@tyrekwalls2230]

@@lettalkknicksAndre igodula is not a top 75 player

[@blackout9587]

@@lettalkknicksthat’s like saying ray allen helps his team win but somehow he’s better than Curry 😭😭😭😭

[@SBW86]

Bro, Iggy wouldn’t agree with McCants. FOH.

[@hotboynasty9708]

Iggy is a better player Klaw just a better shooter

[@Flagrant32]

Kawhi is miles better than Iggy. It’s really not close

[@raymondsims7042]

100X better honestly

[@lettalkknicks]

Na ya better watch Iggy highlights in Philly

[@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq]

I disagree

[@quaquq96]

​@@lettalkknicksu gotta be a idiot

[@Flagrant32]

@@lettalkknicksKawhi is way better than him

[@Jcyberchase22]

Mccant trippin on this one

[@dylanwilliams433]

Facts he talking bout Iggy a better defender when Lebron averaged 35 on him 😂😂😂

[@yn9637]

Right, kawhi looked like mike in toronto.

[@dregaines8184]

@@dylanwilliams433he averaged 28 and he scored 35 in the last game and not going to lie even lebron will tell you iggy stopped him from dropping 55 so that’s definitely a W for iggy that’s why Gil said “a real finals mvp” he deserves that bc lebron took them to that game seven .. iggy left everything out there

[@dylanwilliams433]

@@dregaines8184 Lebron averaged 35.8 in the 2015 finals the year Iggy won finals mvp what are you talking bout

[@TheFinsen]

Tf you mean “on this one?” He ain’t had a good take since Patrick worked at the Krusty Krab

[@patricija4179]

Ppl in the comments don't get that Gil agrees with him(which is insane)💀💀💀💀

[@Augrills]

Gil was saying some stuff without saying it cause he knew the hate he’d get lol

[@theinktician]

Nah, i watched the stream. He was saying they had a role reversal but Iggy was never the offensive threat Kawhi was.

[@lettalkknicks]

@@theinktician Iggy was actually better prime Iggy n Philly was unfair to guard

[@xDreMack]

​@@lettalkknicksyou tripping prime Iggy isn't better than any version of Kawhi after like his 3rd year. Iggy has never averaged 20ppg and that's being the number 1 option for a couple years. Kawhi puts up over 25ppg sharing shots with other star players.

[@lettalkknicks]

@@xDreMack wen was the last time kawhi won anything? Iggy jus recently won was huge help stopping brown n Tatum

[@334ben10]

From 2007 until 2012(age 24 to 28) Iggy was supposed to be the guy for Philly and never took that step from all star caliber to all nba caliber. He never got avg 20, he was very good on defense but a level behind Kawhi was even at those ages. As role players and the guy Kawhi was better at it. Even as a huge Iggy fan it’s no debate here🤷🏽‍♂️

[@334ben10]

And if you gone discredit one of Kawhi FMVPs because he still technically a role player than Iggy FMVP don’t matter either😂

[@comment5398]

Poor shooter.

[@user-he2qj3go2o]

​@@334ben10exactly

[@sdcrocks]

That Andrew Bynum trade wasnt supposed to be so one sided tbh -.-'

[@iamjeremy4life]

He's holding in from laughing cause he knows what he's saying is complete bs 😂.

[@kerian8122]

I swear some time Gilbert just says b.s, kawhi is better than igudola. Pls stop this B.S

[@comment5398]

Leonard can do everything that Andre could do but Andre can't shoot so edge to Leonard

[@TheMusicNerdz]

McCants having his Max 'Iggy' moment

[@assalt18]

HEY McCants "Stay off the WEEEEEEEEEDDD"

[@fresnoniiji]

More like crack lol

[@Nca021]

“Didn’t want to give it to ginobli or Parker” Kawhi was the 2nd leading scorer on the spurs by 1 point and was easily the best defender in the entire series. 2015-current Kawhi is MILES ahead of a fkn role player that hasn’t lead a team to shi. I’ve never seen a player that can get u 30+ on 50/40/90 w/o even trying and guards your best player get so much disrespect in my life🤦🏾‍♂️

[@user-he2qj3go2o]

Its insane

[@OK-yy6qz]

0.2 points actually. On 60% from the field and 50% from 3

[@WoTMike1989]

Now this show is just getting on dumb takes

[@jcc3333]

Cuz Iggy was a guest...that's why

[@International-BlackMan]

😂They are smart enough to say dumb sh!+ for views. Shock-Jocking!!@

[@arigatooooooo]

As a Toronto native and fan watching every single playoff game of our playoff run. There was a point in the playoffs where every single time kawhi shot the ball I had full confidence it was going in. Like full confidence.

[@1LilYeezo]

Bro kick his ass off the show

[@xavirrhull4407]

I agree you need go home . This is disrespect to kawhi . He doesn't need be on show

[@fresnoniiji]

He just be saying anything lol

[@foondoom7850]

Mccant at home: how could I say some shit to make the world go crazy. 💡 …I got it 🤔

[@Braydog101]

Iggy could not do what kawhi did in Toronto

[@lettalkknicks]

N kawhi cant stop LeBron n da West or nobody to get to da finals raptors was already a champion team with Kyle n DeRozan if pisckal would been playing thw way he did with kawhi they would've won ring

[@babyjxsh7820]

@@lettalkknicksiggy couldn’t stop Bron lol there was no kyrie or love in that 2015 finals he was getting jumped

[@lettalkknicks]

@@babyjxsh7820 I'm sorry but who can stop LeBron? Iggy did make it tough in wen was the last time kawhi won ? Cuz Iggy jus won recently

[@lettalkknicks]

@@babyjxsh7820 still waiting on u to tell me wen was the last time kawhi won nobody wanna answer me ?

[@ThePhenom10805]

⁠​⁠@@lettalkknickslmao at iggy just won recently, he literally did nothing but ride coattails. He missed half the regular season and barely played in the playoffs Bragging about that last iggy championship is like talking about Mitch Richmond’s championship on the lakers

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

"He crazy." - Iguodala out there somewhere.

[@patricija4179]

Worst take i have heard in a while. These two need to get drug tested.

[@likeklxy1121]

This shouldn’t even be a discussion

[@sssloe]

Is Gil's arena at this point just a clickbait show?

[@ademahmad3188]

the dumbest take of all time

[@BG-mn6di]

Lmfao straight up

[@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq]

Not really Kawhi overrated

[@lettalkknicks]

Do u watch basketball or highlights or jus read stats Iggy effects the game n way kawhi could never kawhi to quiet n he not leader this y clippers not winning n golden state with Iggy still fighting for 5 ring

[@DominoRenzo]

@@lettalkknicksyou just announced you don’t watch basketball. They are not winning because Kawhi has been injured. Not because he is too quite. Plus would you rather have Kawhi Leonard or Andre Igudola on your team?

[@marekboldin4386]

@@lettalkknickslebron ass lil bro lol kawhi the best sf all time he won a game against kd warriors and would’ve won the series if he wouldn’t of got hurt and he would’ve beat cavs in the finals fast foward he wins a chip ,then he joins clippers they should’ve won the 2020 finals lebron got the easiest route 🤣😭clippers were running the west 🤣the nba hadda give lebron his mickey ring tho we know the truth kawhi would’ve had 4 by know 🤣

[@BruceMichaelFilms]

Bro. Iggy was a starter his the majority of his career and never had a 20 point season. He’s incredible to have on your team, but comparing him to Kawhi in any fashion is asinine.

[@wesmyone9562]

McCants was trippin heavy, ain't no way Iggy is better than Kahwi😑

[@bigmike8390]

Iggy more athletic that's it

[@MJBCC2014]

More durable as well

[@mekhig.9350]

@@MJBCC2014he don’t even play as much as kawhi for you to be saying that. Maybe in philly but he never had to do what kawhi did.

[@334ben10]

@@mekhig.9350until Iggy 15th season he had only 3 season with under 65 games played and in those seasons he played 62,63,64 games. Iggy has been a lot more durable, even as a starter

[@334ben10]

@@mekhig.9350in just Iggy first 6 seasons he has more seasons played with over 70 games played🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@Augrills]

@@MJBCC2014 Kawhi has a chronic knee condition. He’s been fighting to stay on the court since San Antonio. Feel bad for the guy. If he could have stayed healthy in his prime, I think he could have been the closest thing to MJ since Kobe

[@Notjakefromstatefarm940]

Kawhi 2x fmvp 3x champ give him his respect

[@_cheefieG]

Somebody take that crown off this dude's head 😂😂 mean while both these guys have rings while these guys sitting on the couch

[@eanoworro1028]

I agree with McCants. What he's really saying is that Iggy got that dawg and Klaw is just naturally gifted

[@Theyaintme_cb6]

In all seriousness Gil get Mcants off the show, enough is enough with this dude, you are going too lose a lot of viewers if you keep this guy on your show

[@Fatfit2]

Naw, he’s the only friction frfr. Everybody else 80% agrees with each other.

[@Augrills]

@@Fatfit2 KMart will argue and he’s right a lot of the time. McCants is either a troll or just dumb as hell

[@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq]

Bye!!👋🏾 Mcants played in the NBA! Kawhi overrated FOH

[@philvillafana2584]

Ehhhh, it's not unbearable like Miko was.... she was actually losing him alot of viewers, like myself. But now she's gone so I'm back watching and enjoying again. After Miko.... real OGs know nothing compares....so McCants is almost a delight compared to what we used to have to deal with....

[@lettalkknicks]

@@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq thank you Iggy got 4 rings finals MVP multiple all defensive team made all stars games carry a franchise I'm sorry ya giving kawhi credit for no reason raptors was already championship team kd lbj or even if u put klay Thompson there it was chip for them they jus needed upgrade on stars this y derzoan for kawhi happen goes to show derzoan value how good the raps were before claw

[@CN-gw5nt]

Iggy was cold af in his prime but he was never someone who you could give the keys to and have him lead your franchise to a chip. Even in his best days, his Philly days, he was the man on that team but wasn’t putting up crazy numbers or getting his team to the playoffs. He’s always been more of a complimentary guy, which is why it was so easy for him to transition into a role player frfr.

[@comment5398]

Inconsistent jump-shooter and can't shoot 3s

[@alcampwu1476]

🔧 Where is Thanos when you need him

[@mrolaf1598]

I’m not even looking at the rest of the comments or watching the video all I needed was to hear that shit ahhhh take

[@shoptalkconvo-mak1471]

Not saying I agree but I think some people don't remember how good Iguodala was on the Sixers

[@perrywashup5168]

They really don't cause Iverson gave him the keys

[@jamesprall9964]

He was a slasher. Cool

[@theinktician]

He was better on Denver even though his numbers were worse

[@lettalkknicks]

This my point it easy to be good n san Antonio look at Devin vessel wen coach trust u Greg pop will make sure u develop Iggy got his shit out the mud no development jus natural hopping ability to carry the the 76

[@lettalkknicks]

@@jamesprall9964 u don't know basketball dude led philly n mostly all categories after ai left

[@ceejhundo4046]

Gil what was the percentages when kawhii Guarded him?

[@dceltics2461]

He didn't wanna say they never do they just lie..kawhi shot 61% 22ppg from game 3-5..Bron got blown away n never won another game in the series

[@cedricsanders5267]

Mccant what are you talking about?😂

[@1SuperD1]

Iggy was a beast back in his 76ers days but kawhi is different. Iggy never carried his team deep into the playoffs. Kawhi has put the team on his back and won a championship and even when he didn’t win championships he had big playoff performances. The only knock on Kawhi is that he can’t stay healthy and that’s literally it.

[@angusdog22]

This is a really weird convo 😂

[@jamesprall9964]

“Smoking on purple, ease my mind….” 😂

[@TommieGun602]

That’s like saying Clyde is better than Mj 🤣

[@michaelmartin3068]

Igudala was the man in Philly for a little bit

[@oyi21]

Iggy hands down! Availability is the best ability as they say

[@jonlance1990]

So Igoudala is single-handedly winning a championship for Toronto?

[@SHADOWMAN_24]

​@@jonlance1990durant got hurt only reason.

[@jonlance1990]

@@SHADOWMAN_24 what was the question I asked? Up that reading comprehension.

[@SHADOWMAN_24]

@@jonlance1990 Fuck your question. You need to Up your basketball IQ.

[@aviphyt]

​@@jonlance1990not even gonna make it to game 7 with 76ers

[@lorddevil863]

Wow, as a Golden State fan, even I can't agree with this take. The only legitimate argument you really have is you can count on Iggy more throughout his career because Kawhi is always injured.

[@nature-kv3xe]

Kawhi lead his team to the finals. Iggy had stacked team. Kawhi did more in his career than iggy

[@lorddevil863]

@nature-kv3xe I like Kawhi too but you're not supporting your argument by saying he only won because Golden States was a stacked team. Because doesn't it makes it even more impressive that Iggy won Finals MVP over all those other players on that team? Also, just because you're a role player, doesn't mean you weren't important to those 4 championships when you were there for the entirety of the regular season and even more valuable in the playoffs. Iggy has played twice the number of games Kawhi has played in, although Iggy is 7 years older, Kawhi couldn't even suit up for the Clipper's opener this season. I know for sure, Golden States isn't even going to question about whether or not to retired his jersey but we're not sure if KD's number should be retired at this moment.

[@emperor_q2488]

Mccants is just on the show to say wild shit lol

[@stanyeeast3508]

Iguodala is for sure underrated and he showed up for work a shitload more often, but idk about better when both healthy

[@tauoamanamea309]

The one time I agree with Mccant

[@DarkChocolate325]

I'm with McCant on this one.💯

[@iaiirjordani13]

So you’re dumb also

[@PandillaVerde23]

Dude and Stephen A need a show

[@musaddiqmunirliman8267]

But back to back finals MVP going to the person guarding LeBron.. That's mind blowing

[@yd6885]

That fact that Gil was supporting his argument baffles me

[@TheSteakintake]

The reason that my man's argument with the crown on is it correct you would never build a team around Iggy but you would build one around for a while

[@Monk-Amani.]

It doesn't matter. Sometimes it just the road traveled. Who you signs with matters. Love them both.

[@Franc232]

that early smurk was crazy lmaoo

[@patrickunderwood2979]

How can he say defensively he got a knack for it like he wasn’t DPOY of the year

[@WilliamSmith-zg6vp]

Ooh. Good one. Closer than at first glance.

[@CantGoBroke]

Yall saying he wrong but he’s actually right, Iggy was a top 5 player when he went to the warriors. He has 4 rings as well & more I don’t feel like typing. Once y’all realize Steph isn’t great it’s gonna hurt 😂

[@WilliamGalloway-ti7go]

Mccant is the Skip Bayless of these podcasts lol lol.

[@___JB]

this is actually a good debate.. circumstances can change everything but prime Iggy vs prime Kawhi is a wild topic

[@jesuschristo9293]

I mean really this is not that much of a hot take. If they did a side by side of both their careers it would be a lot closer than ppl think …

[@Sonnel_James]

This is some Max Kellerman typa stuff 😂😂

[@BKurt83]

Thats why hes called McCant and not McCan... outrageous

[@702TifosiGambler]

Everything Gil said was true and I'm still taking Iggy, FMVP Dubs Iggy had loss a step or two, Philly Iggy was that guy!! he just took a back seat to THE ANSWER like everyone else that suited up for Philly

[@ZoRoseFGG]

I can’t even believe this up for discussion

[@arjayejeter]

Rashad just tops his hot takes, every conversation

[@michaelgreen490]

That is why he is on the panel

[@charlesmichaelalegada4497]

Iggy was like Kawhi in Sixers but accepted his role with Warriors to win championship

[@odagawd8601]

One of the 1st things McCants has said that I agree with

[@TRU7EL]

Facts 💯 No load management

[@albertmudakuvaka2176]

Max Kellerman: I told you

[@mico4859]

People forget Iggy was regarded as the next Kobe coming out of high school. He was a beast, and deserves the success he’s had

[@Diego-fy6qz]

Ok and? How's that relevant here. He's nowhere near kawhi

[@randomperson2540]

If we're saying Iggy in 2015 is better than kawhi in 2014 fair enough, cause iggy lead a nuggets team to a playoff seed in the west and was a legit star. But at their best or carrer? What are we talking about lol

[@yugiisama]

Iggy was the finals MVP on a dynasty that ended with 4 chips, & he got 3 of ‘em. Kawhi went to TORONTO, put the team on his fuckin back & carried us to a championship. there is no world where the two cases are comparable, like at all.

[@ABC.182]

That’s true Iggy been ballin since the sixers

[@hectorrolon3289]

Iggy in Philadelphia was crazy !!! I agree with Rant on this one

[@linkonedgell894]

We gotta stop giving these guys a platform. Kawhi is better at every single aspect of basketball other than maybe, like rebounding.

[@cjwrench07]

People in Philly will always remember how good of a shooter Kawhi is. *That Game 7 shot stopped “The Process” for good!*

[@JohhLK94]

Bro why are they disrespecting Kawhi like that? No reason for this. McCants shame on you bro

[@kennycann8654]

He had the keys while in Philly in couldn't be the man

[@jeffreyfoss7369]

Great observation.

[@tayjohnson2411]

I liked Andre when he first came into the league but to me he wasn't the guy to lead a team he just seemed liked a dude to play his role and then go sit down

[@bryanbowers9750]

I thought Rashad Mccants was the man coming out of high school and college but he has a lot of crazy takes

[@archiemiras3073]

IGGY is the guy i want in the locker room peak standard in terms of a role player. The Robot is a different breed. I mean have heard him laugh deym

[@darrylroyal2100]

Rashad ain’t trippin Iggy been a problem since Arizona he just played his role when he went to Golden State

[@jumpyjeffrey]

Never makes sense to me when someone has better numbers from 3 than from the field. You’re either always wide open from 3 or your drives are out of control.

[@nathanbedfordforest]

Kawhi got the biggest game winner in NBA playoff history

[@fixyourteeth4409]

I lost an innumerable amount of brain cells from this one short

[@nicholas7525]

Nobody: Mccant: “I WANT IGOUDALA”

[@anthonyburks3075]

Reading comments, problem is a lot of the younger generation didn’t see iggy in the early stages of his career. Starting to realize lots of people who comment don’t no hoops or never played

[@nefariousaquarius4637]

So a guy with 2x championships and 2x FMVPs is not better than a 4x champion with 1 FMVP. Btw Andre only got FMVP for how he guarded Bron. Which Kawhi 1st FMVP he also guarded Bron but earlier in his prime.

[@jackbombay1423]

But LeBron almost posted a triple double with over 35 points per game against Iggy.

[@jasonc5709]

Iggy was real nice but he was never someone who was asked to get the team a bucket. Opposing coaches doubled off of Iggy because he wasn't a reliable shooter. I dont think Iggy ever averaged +20pt in a season. Defensively they might be closer than the offensive end, but in my eyes it's still a gap between them. Similar ability but Kawhi's size, strength and hands give him the nod.

[@Twhistle]

There’s no debate. Kawhi is an easy no doubt Hall of Famer, probably first ballot. Iguodala HIMSELF said he doesn’t think he’s a Hall of Famer

[@jedlasermosley]

Somewhere Max Kellerman is smiling

[@user-nw8gy7xz1q]

Craziest thing I’ve heard from him and he’s said a lot